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	<title>Comments on: Open Letter To SL from Morden Winkler</title>
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		<title>By: Tycho Beresford</title>
		<link>http://alphavilleherald.com/2007/12/open-letter-to.html/comment-page-1#comment-18889</link>
		<dc:creator>Tycho Beresford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2007 15:22:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nacon, I don&#039;t understand when you say &quot;I am actually glad that Canada has tighter privacy laws as it prevents our Social Insurance, Passport and drivers license information from being lost, misused or even sold once it has been provided.&quot;  Laws can&#039;t prevent crimes and accidents.

Consider: &quot;The Passport Canada website was found to be leaking applicant data last week.  One site visitor discovered that by altering a character in the URL, he could view other applicants&#039; social insurance numbers, driver&#039;s license numbers, and other sensitive personal information.&quot;
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/12/04/canadian_passport_site_breach/

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nacon, I don&#8217;t understand when you say &#8220;I am actually glad that Canada has tighter privacy laws as it prevents our Social Insurance, Passport and drivers license information from being lost, misused or even sold once it has been provided.&#8221;  Laws can&#8217;t prevent crimes and accidents.</p>
<p>Consider: &#8220;The Passport Canada website was found to be leaking applicant data last week.  One site visitor discovered that by altering a character in the URL, he could view other applicants&#8217; social insurance numbers, driver&#8217;s license numbers, and other sensitive personal information.&#8221;<br />
<a href="http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/12/04/canadian_passport_site_breach/" rel="nofollow">http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/12/04/canadian_passport_site_breach/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Ari</title>
		<link>http://alphavilleherald.com/2007/12/open-letter-to.html/comment-page-1#comment-18888</link>
		<dc:creator>Ari</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2007 10:07:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LOL!!!!!

I just *LOVE* how all the whiners always say &#039;PROBABLY ILLEGAL&quot; - well, find out, idiot. Your letter looks like a 10-year-old whining because he can&#039;t have his cake and eat it too.

You want to whine about it - whine to Integrity.
Dipshit.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL!!!!!</p>
<p>I just *LOVE* how all the whiners always say &#8216;PROBABLY ILLEGAL&#8221; &#8211; well, find out, idiot. Your letter looks like a 10-year-old whining because he can&#8217;t have his cake and eat it too.</p>
<p>You want to whine about it &#8211; whine to Integrity.<br />
Dipshit.</p>
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		<title>By: Bee Mizser</title>
		<link>http://alphavilleherald.com/2007/12/open-letter-to.html/comment-page-1#comment-18887</link>
		<dc:creator>Bee Mizser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Dec 2007 14:27:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;&gt;

BOTTOM LINE: The residents who are the most vociferous (google it) against age verification are the ones who enjoy PORN,ESCORTS,STRIPPERS,RAPE/ROLE PLAY,AGE PLAY...etc.... Period.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ The rest do not care either way. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Mature land and age verification will not affect the positive aspects of SL...only the darkside.


************** Think About IT**********************

Merry Christmas , Happy B-DAY J.C. :)


Complete bollocks matey.

Because this age verification is purely voluntary, then the sex/porn industry will continue on SL in the same way it always has.  They just won&#039;t mark the land as having mature content and carry on as before.
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<p>BOTTOM LINE: The residents who are the most vociferous (google it) against age verification are the ones who enjoy PORN,ESCORTS,STRIPPERS,RAPE/ROLE PLAY,AGE PLAY&#8230;etc&#8230;. Period.</p>
<p>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ The rest do not care either way. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~</p>
<p>Mature land and age verification will not affect the positive aspects of SL&#8230;only the darkside.</p>
<p>************** Think About IT**********************</p>
<p>Merry Christmas , Happy B-DAY J.C. <img src='http://alphavilleherald.com/site/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Complete bollocks matey.</p>
<p>Because this age verification is purely voluntary, then the sex/porn industry will continue on SL in the same way it always has.  They just won&#8217;t mark the land as having mature content and carry on as before.</p>
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		<title>By: chmarr walcott</title>
		<link>http://alphavilleherald.com/2007/12/open-letter-to.html/comment-page-1#comment-18886</link>
		<dc:creator>chmarr walcott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Dec 2007 14:22:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wow bet ya dident know this
integrity / Aristotle USED to be www.kidsheriff.com here is a direct C&amp;P from there website

Privacy Statement
for Integrity.Aristotle.com

Integrity has created this privacy statement in order to demonstrate our firm commitment to privacy. The following discloses our information gathering and dissemination practices for this website: Integrity.Aristotle.com.

Website Visitor Information Collected
Our site&#039;s Registration Form requires users to give us information (like their name and email address).

Security
Integrity.Aristotle.com operates under industry standard security measures including the use of https, firewalls and a server security password system to protect from loss, misuse or alteration the information under our control.

Confidentiality of Information/Correction
Integrity only uses data collected from visitors and customers for the purpose of conducting Integrity Services and does not provide information to third parties except pursuant to subpoena or court order.

Contacting the Web Site
If you have any questions about this privacy statement, the practices of this site, or your dealings with this Web site, you can contact:

Integrity
205 Pennsylvania Avenue, SE
Washington, DC 20003
E-mail address: info@VerifyMyIdentification.com

http://www.kidsheriff.com/version2/privacy.htm



look at that and tell me wtf

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wow bet ya dident know this<br />
integrity / Aristotle USED to be <a href="http://www.kidsheriff.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.kidsheriff.com</a> here is a direct C&#038;P from there website</p>
<p>Privacy Statement<br />
for Integrity.Aristotle.com</p>
<p>Integrity has created this privacy statement in order to demonstrate our firm commitment to privacy. The following discloses our information gathering and dissemination practices for this website: Integrity.Aristotle.com.</p>
<p>Website Visitor Information Collected<br />
Our site&#8217;s Registration Form requires users to give us information (like their name and email address).</p>
<p>Security<br />
Integrity.Aristotle.com operates under industry standard security measures including the use of https, firewalls and a server security password system to protect from loss, misuse or alteration the information under our control.</p>
<p>Confidentiality of Information/Correction<br />
Integrity only uses data collected from visitors and customers for the purpose of conducting Integrity Services and does not provide information to third parties except pursuant to subpoena or court order.</p>
<p>Contacting the Web Site<br />
If you have any questions about this privacy statement, the practices of this site, or your dealings with this Web site, you can contact:</p>
<p>Integrity<br />
205 Pennsylvania Avenue, SE<br />
Washington, DC 20003<br />
E-mail address: <a href="mailto:info@VerifyMyIdentification.com">info@VerifyMyIdentification.com</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.kidsheriff.com/version2/privacy.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.kidsheriff.com/version2/privacy.htm</a></p>
<p>look at that and tell me wtf</p>
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		<title>By: Chmarr walcott</title>
		<link>http://alphavilleherald.com/2007/12/open-letter-to.html/comment-page-1#comment-18885</link>
		<dc:creator>Chmarr walcott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Dec 2007 13:58:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you forgot the UK , GREAT BRITAN SCOTLAND england IERLAND WALES

our data protection is much more stricter and tighter than canadas and the lindens in the uk are being ignored by there vosses
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you forgot the UK , GREAT BRITAN SCOTLAND england IERLAND WALES</p>
<p>our data protection is much more stricter and tighter than canadas and the lindens in the uk are being ignored by there vosses</p>
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		<title>By: pornlover</title>
		<link>http://alphavilleherald.com/2007/12/open-letter-to.html/comment-page-1#comment-18884</link>
		<dc:creator>pornlover</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Dec 2007 05:08:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, the darkside is the fun side.

Also, it will affect people who happen to have mature land and are renting it out,
or those that have uhm... I dunno... other mature stuff that is non sexual?
Combat sims? wouldnt want kids there specially with the heavy RP going on there.
if you think mature parcels that will have to be flagged only are the ones with sexual stuff on it... Get your ass out of the welcome area for once and actually have a look around.

and yes... I like sex. Heck, everyone does. I bet your mom and dad enjoyed it. Else you wouldnt be sitting there behind your computer. Be glad your father wasnt celibate.
And I bet he&#039;s also got a stash of mags hidden somewhere. Probably hidden under your pile of Disney magazines in your room...

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, the darkside is the fun side.</p>
<p>Also, it will affect people who happen to have mature land and are renting it out,<br />
or those that have uhm&#8230; I dunno&#8230; other mature stuff that is non sexual?<br />
Combat sims? wouldnt want kids there specially with the heavy RP going on there.<br />
if you think mature parcels that will have to be flagged only are the ones with sexual stuff on it&#8230; Get your ass out of the welcome area for once and actually have a look around.</p>
<p>and yes&#8230; I like sex. Heck, everyone does. I bet your mom and dad enjoyed it. Else you wouldnt be sitting there behind your computer. Be glad your father wasnt celibate.<br />
And I bet he&#8217;s also got a stash of mags hidden somewhere. Probably hidden under your pile of Disney magazines in your room&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jamie David</title>
		<link>http://alphavilleherald.com/2007/12/open-letter-to.html/comment-page-1#comment-18883</link>
		<dc:creator>Jamie David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Dec 2007 03:51:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>See comments of other story. images.google.com will provide Drivers License and anyone can verify. So there is no trust left in IDV/Verification.

On canadian issue. The issue I see is, how did Aristole get the personal ID&#039;s to verify against. If canadian government handed it over then issue is with Canadian Government. Why did they do so? Verification is a new service and there is no need for the SIN if Aristotle provide Voter Profiles for Canadain MP&#039;s. If they don&#039;t have the SIN numbers then it is false advertising that is making Canada look bad.

Bad either way you look at it.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>See comments of other story. images.google.com will provide Drivers License and anyone can verify. So there is no trust left in IDV/Verification.</p>
<p>On canadian issue. The issue I see is, how did Aristole get the personal ID&#8217;s to verify against. If canadian government handed it over then issue is with Canadian Government. Why did they do so? Verification is a new service and there is no need for the SIN if Aristotle provide Voter Profiles for Canadain MP&#8217;s. If they don&#8217;t have the SIN numbers then it is false advertising that is making Canada look bad.</p>
<p>Bad either way you look at it.</p>
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		<title>By: Maria Leveaux</title>
		<link>http://alphavilleherald.com/2007/12/open-letter-to.html/comment-page-1#comment-18882</link>
		<dc:creator>Maria Leveaux</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Dec 2007 22:22:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t Really believe that either LL or Integrity Intended to Contravene any Laws, nor do i think Integrity Intends to use the information for any purpose other than they State.
However, They Have Fallen for a common misconception, Canada is NOT The USA, and despite some Commonalities in our language and culture we ARE a foreign country, with a Very different legal, and governmental structure.
Someone, working for Integrity, Rather than properly researching his Task Simply assumed that the Canadian Social Insurance Number served the same function, in the same manner as the American Social Security Number, and that Information about the Holder could be accessed in the same way. In truth, the Information Connected with the SIN Number cannot even be accessed if the holder Provides Written Authorization. They didn&#039;t Realize that we have an entire Governmental Branch dedicated to preserving Canadians Right to Privacy.

There wasn&#039;t any Sinister Intent, it was Just Sloppy Work. I&#039;m sure Now that LL and Integrity are, or soon will be aware of the Difference, they will Attempt some other Avenue by which they can verify Age. But in doing so they Will discover it isn&#039;t nearly so Easy as it is in the USA, and Canadians Aren&#039;t the Only people who&#039;s rights are so well guarded by their Government.

The Other point made, About Canadian Law not mattering,, Well, LL would Not be the First Foreign owned business to get Spanked by our Privacy Commission, You see, NAFTA Has provided avenues, and mechanisms to deal with cross boarder trade problems just like this IF it becomes a &quot;denial of service&quot; issue. But, i don&#039;t think it will ever get nearly so far as that.
This was Just a Screw up, Nothing more.

Maria.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t Really believe that either LL or Integrity Intended to Contravene any Laws, nor do i think Integrity Intends to use the information for any purpose other than they State.<br />
However, They Have Fallen for a common misconception, Canada is NOT The USA, and despite some Commonalities in our language and culture we ARE a foreign country, with a Very different legal, and governmental structure.<br />
Someone, working for Integrity, Rather than properly researching his Task Simply assumed that the Canadian Social Insurance Number served the same function, in the same manner as the American Social Security Number, and that Information about the Holder could be accessed in the same way. In truth, the Information Connected with the SIN Number cannot even be accessed if the holder Provides Written Authorization. They didn&#8217;t Realize that we have an entire Governmental Branch dedicated to preserving Canadians Right to Privacy.</p>
<p>There wasn&#8217;t any Sinister Intent, it was Just Sloppy Work. I&#8217;m sure Now that LL and Integrity are, or soon will be aware of the Difference, they will Attempt some other Avenue by which they can verify Age. But in doing so they Will discover it isn&#8217;t nearly so Easy as it is in the USA, and Canadians Aren&#8217;t the Only people who&#8217;s rights are so well guarded by their Government.</p>
<p>The Other point made, About Canadian Law not mattering,, Well, LL would Not be the First Foreign owned business to get Spanked by our Privacy Commission, You see, NAFTA Has provided avenues, and mechanisms to deal with cross boarder trade problems just like this IF it becomes a &#8220;denial of service&#8221; issue. But, i don&#8217;t think it will ever get nearly so far as that.<br />
This was Just a Screw up, Nothing more.</p>
<p>Maria.</p>
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		<title>By: Prokofy Neva</title>
		<link>http://alphavilleherald.com/2007/12/open-letter-to.html/comment-page-1#comment-18881</link>
		<dc:creator>Prokofy Neva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Dec 2007 22:00:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Magnum, you aren&#039;t being asked to give your whole US Social Security number, you&#039;re being asked to give the last 4 numbers. And if you think it violates privacy or harms you in some way, I guess the next time you call your bank or credit card company and they ask for the last 4 digits of your social to verify you, as they routinely do, you won&#039;t be able to cooperate with them. Ok, then, don&#039;t, then don&#039;t expect to get their services. It&#039;s a wonder how you live in the modern world then.

I find the word ILLEGAL is being bandied about far too much here as well by scare-mongerers whose really issue is that they don&#039;t want to face up to their second lives and what they mean in real-life terms.

There&#039;s a simple solution here: if Linden Lab can&#039;t get international verification to work, then they simply stop attempting to verify it. After all, they are doing this not for their own sake, and not even to &quot;keep out kids,&quot; but to make adults accountable and also to give them some protection against liability for minors. The countries that are more aggressive about prosecution of fictional child pornography are in Europe anyway, so let them prosecute away, and let those unverified people who have adult content face the music as they will. LL can point out to any authorities who come calling that they have a system to verify, but privacy laws of countries in the EU or in Canada don&#039;t cooperate, so they can only go so far. Then it will be up to that law-enforcement agency and its target of investigation within SL to work it out as they may.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Magnum, you aren&#8217;t being asked to give your whole US Social Security number, you&#8217;re being asked to give the last 4 numbers. And if you think it violates privacy or harms you in some way, I guess the next time you call your bank or credit card company and they ask for the last 4 digits of your social to verify you, as they routinely do, you won&#8217;t be able to cooperate with them. Ok, then, don&#8217;t, then don&#8217;t expect to get their services. It&#8217;s a wonder how you live in the modern world then.</p>
<p>I find the word ILLEGAL is being bandied about far too much here as well by scare-mongerers whose really issue is that they don&#8217;t want to face up to their second lives and what they mean in real-life terms.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s a simple solution here: if Linden Lab can&#8217;t get international verification to work, then they simply stop attempting to verify it. After all, they are doing this not for their own sake, and not even to &#8220;keep out kids,&#8221; but to make adults accountable and also to give them some protection against liability for minors. The countries that are more aggressive about prosecution of fictional child pornography are in Europe anyway, so let them prosecute away, and let those unverified people who have adult content face the music as they will. LL can point out to any authorities who come calling that they have a system to verify, but privacy laws of countries in the EU or in Canada don&#8217;t cooperate, so they can only go so far. Then it will be up to that law-enforcement agency and its target of investigation within SL to work it out as they may.</p>
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		<title>By: Razrcut Brooks</title>
		<link>http://alphavilleherald.com/2007/12/open-letter-to.html/comment-page-1#comment-18880</link>
		<dc:creator>Razrcut Brooks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Dec 2007 20:37:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BOTTOM LINE:  The residents who are the most vociferous (google it) against age verification are the ones who enjoy PORN,ESCORTS,STRIPPERS,RAPE/ROLE PLAY,AGE PLAY...etc.... Period.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~    The rest do not care either way.   ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Mature land and age verification will not affect the positive aspects of  SL...only the darkside.


**************   Think About IT**********************

Merry Christmas , Happy B-DAY  J.C.  :)


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BOTTOM LINE:  The residents who are the most vociferous (google it) against age verification are the ones who enjoy PORN,ESCORTS,STRIPPERS,RAPE/ROLE PLAY,AGE PLAY&#8230;etc&#8230;. Period.</p>
<p>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~    The rest do not care either way.   ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~</p>
<p>Mature land and age verification will not affect the positive aspects of  SL&#8230;only the darkside.</p>
<p>**************   Think About IT**********************</p>
<p>Merry Christmas , Happy B-DAY  J.C.  <img src='http://alphavilleherald.com/site/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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