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	<title>Comments on: Why Griefing = Drama: Broken Immersion</title>
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		<title>By: THE NUMBER 23 IS REALLY BEGINNING TO PISS ME OFF</title>
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		<dc:creator>THE NUMBER 23 IS REALLY BEGINNING TO PISS ME OFF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2008 05:10:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I dont speak for the whole of the PN, Deathwish, but heres my ultimatum: If you do an IRL raid on intblub&#039;s house, and manage to get him to run out the door screaming in a rage, so will I.

Also, you seem to be under the godawfully stupid misconception that the PN is based in the Northeastern United States.

Fucking idiot, we come from all over the globe, and so there are plenty of us that cannot do IRL raids on you USfags without wasting about 2k-3k USD to get over there.

I&#039;ll say it again. YOU FUCKING SELF CENTERED IDIOT, DO YOU REALLY THINK THAT ALL OF THE PN LIVE IN THE US?

srsly, the stupidity of some people confounds me...
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I dont speak for the whole of the PN, Deathwish, but heres my ultimatum: If you do an IRL raid on intblub&#8217;s house, and manage to get him to run out the door screaming in a rage, so will I.</p>
<p>Also, you seem to be under the godawfully stupid misconception that the PN is based in the Northeastern United States.</p>
<p>Fucking idiot, we come from all over the globe, and so there are plenty of us that cannot do IRL raids on you USfags without wasting about 2k-3k USD to get over there.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll say it again. YOU FUCKING SELF CENTERED IDIOT, DO YOU REALLY THINK THAT ALL OF THE PN LIVE IN THE US?</p>
<p>srsly, the stupidity of some people confounds me&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Death Wish III</title>
		<link>http://alphavilleherald.com/2008/02/why-griefing-dr.html/comment-page-2#comment-16290</link>
		<dc:creator>Death Wish III</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Feb 2008 15:50:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fact is, ^ban^ and RoFLKOPTr, if you did what you did to people, in RL, in some states people would just blow your brains out and be done with it, and they&#039;d be legally justified in doing so. Fact is you do it here in SL cause you&#039;re all pussies with no balls (hence the closet furriness of most of you).

I saw the shit you compiled on intblubber on encyclopedia dramatica and on your own wiki, including the statement that he keeps a machine gun by his desk RL so better not raid him RL. I lolled at that. Completely proves my point. He lives in New Hampshire, where its legal for him to blow you away with no legal repercussions, if you pulled a real raid on him. If you guys had any balls you&#039;d go anyways. Lemme know when, I&#039;ll meet you there... c&#039;mon, do it for the lulz....
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fact is, ^ban^ and RoFLKOPTr, if you did what you did to people, in RL, in some states people would just blow your brains out and be done with it, and they&#8217;d be legally justified in doing so. Fact is you do it here in SL cause you&#8217;re all pussies with no balls (hence the closet furriness of most of you).</p>
<p>I saw the shit you compiled on intblubber on encyclopedia dramatica and on your own wiki, including the statement that he keeps a machine gun by his desk RL so better not raid him RL. I lolled at that. Completely proves my point. He lives in New Hampshire, where its legal for him to blow you away with no legal repercussions, if you pulled a real raid on him. If you guys had any balls you&#8217;d go anyways. Lemme know when, I&#8217;ll meet you there&#8230; c&#8217;mon, do it for the lulz&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: fuzzy</title>
		<link>http://alphavilleherald.com/2008/02/why-griefing-dr.html/comment-page-2#comment-16289</link>
		<dc:creator>fuzzy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Feb 2008 02:54:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If only there was another group that was dedicated to pre-empting Griefer activity by preventing their actions from working the way they intend, call them &#039;anti-griefers&#039; then the griefers might get a taste of the bullying, the frustration they cause and the sadness that their actions display. They might see it from the other perspective. But probably not since they&#039;re emotionally immature or, actually mature and malicious.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If only there was another group that was dedicated to pre-empting Griefer activity by preventing their actions from working the way they intend, call them &#8216;anti-griefers&#8217; then the griefers might get a taste of the bullying, the frustration they cause and the sadness that their actions display. They might see it from the other perspective. But probably not since they&#8217;re emotionally immature or, actually mature and malicious.</p>
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		<title>By: RoFLKOPTr</title>
		<link>http://alphavilleherald.com/2008/02/why-griefing-dr.html/comment-page-2#comment-16288</link>
		<dc:creator>RoFLKOPTr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2008 15:01:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Prokofy:

We don&#039;t kill people, you stupid whore.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Prokofy:</p>
<p>We don&#8217;t kill people, you stupid whore.</p>
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		<title>By: D.</title>
		<link>http://alphavilleherald.com/2008/02/why-griefing-dr.html/comment-page-2#comment-16287</link>
		<dc:creator>D.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2008 12:17:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Your logic confuses me sir.&quot;

ehm... there&#039;s logic? Cause I havent seen any on this blog for a looong, looong time...
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Your logic confuses me sir.&#8221;</p>
<p>ehm&#8230; there&#8217;s logic? Cause I havent seen any on this blog for a looong, looong time&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: ?</title>
		<link>http://alphavilleherald.com/2008/02/why-griefing-dr.html/comment-page-2#comment-16286</link>
		<dc:creator>?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2008 02:17:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;3) Continues on to explain above statement, and fails whereupon the poster demonstrates in an excellent manner what immersion is, all the while trying to say that it is not, in fact, immersion.&quot;

Your logic confuses me sir.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;3) Continues on to explain above statement, and fails whereupon the poster demonstrates in an excellent manner what immersion is, all the while trying to say that it is not, in fact, immersion.&#8221;</p>
<p>Your logic confuses me sir.</p>
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		<title>By: anonymous</title>
		<link>http://alphavilleherald.com/2008/02/why-griefing-dr.html/comment-page-2#comment-16285</link>
		<dc:creator>anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2008 02:07:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>here&#039;s the thing shockwave, most of these people do it because they know there&#039;s no doomsday button that will end the world. SL is virtual, the only way people get killed is if they kill themselves, aka, they do it to themselves.

Sure the server goes down for a few minutes, people are inconvienced, it starts back up, all is well, the day goes on.

Now, I doubt most of these people would just press a button that would end the real world as that would, kill them in reality. That&#039;s the other thing, these griefers recognize the line between what&#039;s real and fake. unlike you, who equate their actions inworld to stuff they&#039;d do in reality. Yeah, I doubt you do the things you do in SL IRL, if you do, I&#039;d be amazed that you could fly around in the air.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>here&#8217;s the thing shockwave, most of these people do it because they know there&#8217;s no doomsday button that will end the world. SL is virtual, the only way people get killed is if they kill themselves, aka, they do it to themselves.</p>
<p>Sure the server goes down for a few minutes, people are inconvienced, it starts back up, all is well, the day goes on.</p>
<p>Now, I doubt most of these people would just press a button that would end the real world as that would, kill them in reality. That&#8217;s the other thing, these griefers recognize the line between what&#8217;s real and fake. unlike you, who equate their actions inworld to stuff they&#8217;d do in reality. Yeah, I doubt you do the things you do in SL IRL, if you do, I&#8217;d be amazed that you could fly around in the air.</p>
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		<title>By: MachineCode</title>
		<link>http://alphavilleherald.com/2008/02/why-griefing-dr.html/comment-page-2#comment-16284</link>
		<dc:creator>MachineCode</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 22:43:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t personally care much for walking in and annoying people, I just want to see how far the grey goo can spread. Does this make me more or less evil than the other guys? Frankly, I was lost at the first mention of terrorism and &quot;Leninist propaganda.&quot;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t personally care much for walking in and annoying people, I just want to see how far the grey goo can spread. Does this make me more or less evil than the other guys? Frankly, I was lost at the first mention of terrorism and &#8220;Leninist propaganda.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: shockwave yareach</title>
		<link>http://alphavilleherald.com/2008/02/why-griefing-dr.html/comment-page-2#comment-16283</link>
		<dc:creator>shockwave yareach</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 13:22:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The griefers have as many different goals as they do tools.  But boiled down, it&#039;s a group of people getting their kicks by disrupting other people&#039;s fun with no threat of reprisal.  There is no negotiating or discussion with a group of people who believe that being able to do something makes it morally acceptable to do it.  It&#039;s possible to kill billions of real people and end life on Earth by pressing a button - that doesn&#039;t mean it is acceptable to do.

Some griefers are this way due to youthful indifference.  Some are misguided in thinking that anything they _can_ do is okay.  Some lack empathy and don&#039;t understand that their actions in disrupting a game is no different than flipping over people&#039;s chess boards in the park.  Some have the silly idea that &quot;nobody should take it seriously&quot;, forcing their opinions down everyone&#039;s throats like their viewpoint was handed down from God.  It is very humorous that the people who say not to take things seriously are so serious about their message.

In an earlier day and age, they&#039;d be chaining bears and shooting at their paws to make them dance.  Today, they crash our sims and disrupt our recreation.  After all, why should they care?  No consequences for them to deal with...
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The griefers have as many different goals as they do tools.  But boiled down, it&#8217;s a group of people getting their kicks by disrupting other people&#8217;s fun with no threat of reprisal.  There is no negotiating or discussion with a group of people who believe that being able to do something makes it morally acceptable to do it.  It&#8217;s possible to kill billions of real people and end life on Earth by pressing a button &#8211; that doesn&#8217;t mean it is acceptable to do.</p>
<p>Some griefers are this way due to youthful indifference.  Some are misguided in thinking that anything they _can_ do is okay.  Some lack empathy and don&#8217;t understand that their actions in disrupting a game is no different than flipping over people&#8217;s chess boards in the park.  Some have the silly idea that &#8220;nobody should take it seriously&#8221;, forcing their opinions down everyone&#8217;s throats like their viewpoint was handed down from God.  It is very humorous that the people who say not to take things seriously are so serious about their message.</p>
<p>In an earlier day and age, they&#8217;d be chaining bears and shooting at their paws to make them dance.  Today, they crash our sims and disrupt our recreation.  After all, why should they care?  No consequences for them to deal with&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Darkfoxx</title>
		<link>http://alphavilleherald.com/2008/02/why-griefing-dr.html/comment-page-2#comment-16282</link>
		<dc:creator>Darkfoxx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 11:40:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Oh, and if you need me PN my ingame name is Darkfoxx Bunyip. I&#039;m a co-owner of the GYC in Silvestone. Just try and get your lulz from me.&quot;

hehe :D

Oooone litte, tiny, minute littel detail tho: I&#039;ve not been involved with the GYC anymore for over a month now.

Try and keep up, boys ^.^
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Oh, and if you need me PN my ingame name is Darkfoxx Bunyip. I&#8217;m a co-owner of the GYC in Silvestone. Just try and get your lulz from me.&#8221;</p>
<p>hehe <img src='http://alphavilleherald.com/site/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Oooone litte, tiny, minute littel detail tho: I&#8217;ve not been involved with the GYC anymore for over a month now.</p>
<p>Try and keep up, boys ^.^</p>
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