Comments on: Op/Ed: The Problem with China http://alphavilleherald.com/2008/03/oped-the-proble.html Always Fairly Unbalanced Tue, 04 Oct 2016 13:18:56 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1 By: China Made http://alphavilleherald.com/2008/03/oped-the-proble.html/comment-page-1#comment-15569 China Made Sun, 09 Mar 2008 12:52:36 +0000 http://localhost/wp_2/?p=821#comment-15569 Your computer was made in china. turn it off now, and never go online again. If you REFUSE to do this, you accept china rules your life. Your computer was made in china.

turn it off now, and never go online again.

If you REFUSE to do this, you accept china rules your life.

]]> By: shockwave yareach http://alphavilleherald.com/2008/03/oped-the-proble.html/comment-page-1#comment-15568 shockwave yareach Fri, 07 Mar 2008 14:23:44 +0000 http://localhost/wp_2/?p=821#comment-15568 As I have said over and over before, the company should forward any and all legal threats to the US State department. And the company should require a US subpeona from a US court to hand over anything to anybody. If China wants data on Ying through a US company, they can petition a US court to issue a subpeona. This is fair, legal and easy to implement - no US subpeona, no data. It's not on Chinese soil so it's not required to obey Chinese law. Just like SL isn't required to obey German law (are you listening, Robin?) or Iranian law. Having a business on the internet does not mean you have to obey every law in every country on the planet (and thank God for that.) LL is a US company - act like one. When China starts to enforce US laws on their soil, then we can think about following theirs. Till then, tough. As I have said over and over before, the company should forward any and all legal threats to the US State department. And the company should require a US subpeona from a US court to hand over anything to anybody. If China wants data on Ying through a US company, they can petition a US court to issue a subpeona. This is fair, legal and easy to implement – no US subpeona, no data. It’s not on Chinese soil so it’s not required to obey Chinese law. Just like SL isn’t required to obey German law (are you listening, Robin?) or Iranian law. Having a business on the internet does not mean you have to obey every law in every country on the planet (and thank God for that.) LL is a US company – act like one.

When China starts to enforce US laws on their soil, then we can think about following theirs. Till then, tough.

]]> By: bitches. http://alphavilleherald.com/2008/03/oped-the-proble.html/comment-page-1#comment-15567 bitches. Fri, 07 Mar 2008 14:17:45 +0000 http://localhost/wp_2/?p=821#comment-15567 you hit the nail right on the spot. Lots of baaaawing about the poor chinese people in the horrible working conditions... But oh my! all those nady cheap products from China are SOOO much better for the wallets then all the stuff made in western counties who dont have 'slave' labour! have YOU got ANYTHING in your house made in China? Will YOU be looking at the next olympics? or maybe even visit them? Or support sporters that dont boycot the games this time? Then shut the F up. If you really wanna make a change and not just flap your yaps, DO IT and dont just blog about it. and yes prok I mean YOU too. you hit the nail right on the spot.

Lots of baaaawing about the poor chinese people in the horrible working conditions… But oh my! all those nady cheap products from China are SOOO much better for the wallets then all the stuff made in western counties who dont have ‘slave’ labour!

have YOU got ANYTHING in your house made in China?
Will YOU be looking at the next olympics? or maybe even visit them? Or support sporters that dont boycot the games this time?

Then shut the F up. If you really wanna make a change and not just flap your yaps, DO IT and dont just blog about it.

and yes prok I mean YOU too.

]]> By: Taran Rampersad http://alphavilleherald.com/2008/03/oped-the-proble.html/comment-page-1#comment-15566 Taran Rampersad Fri, 07 Mar 2008 12:02:17 +0000 http://localhost/wp_2/?p=821#comment-15566 Well, if this bugs you then you should take a look at some of the recent stuff in the United States itself. What is good for the gander should be good for the geese, right? ;-) Well, if this bugs you then you should take a look at some of the recent stuff in the United States itself. What is good for the gander should be good for the geese, right? ;-)

]]> By: Metus http://alphavilleherald.com/2008/03/oped-the-proble.html/comment-page-1#comment-15565 Metus Fri, 07 Mar 2008 11:11:06 +0000 http://localhost/wp_2/?p=821#comment-15565 A bit of shameless self-promotion here, but I published a paper recently in which I try to deal with some of these issues -- might be interesting to a few of you. It's available at http://www.informaworld.com/smpp/content~content=a789600236~db=all~order=page (unfortunately, access to full paper might be restricted but abstract and contact details are there so feel free to ask me for a copy). A bit of shameless self-promotion here, but I published a paper recently in which I try to deal with some of these issues — might be interesting to a few of you. It’s available at http://www.informaworld.com/smpp/content~content=a789600236~db=all~order=page (unfortunately, access to full paper might be restricted but abstract and contact details are there so feel free to ask me for a copy).

]]> By: Zaphod http://alphavilleherald.com/2008/03/oped-the-proble.html/comment-page-1#comment-15564 Zaphod Fri, 07 Mar 2008 06:17:23 +0000 http://localhost/wp_2/?p=821#comment-15564 The problem with this sort of issue is one of consistency of policy - is your policy to comply with the requests of foreign legitimate governments? If the policy is to comply - do you hand over information to governments like China and Burma that treat their citizens in ways we not agree with? If the policy is to refuse the requests - would you refuse a request from Canada? or England? or any other country the USA considers an ally? Would you turn over details of Osama bin Lada's SL account? Or are you now confused and thinking that you might pick and choose which governments you might comply with and which you wouldn't? If so what basis will you use to discriminate? Would you turn over Osama to the Chinese or Burmese government? The problem with this sort of issue is one of consistency of policy – is your policy to comply with the requests of foreign legitimate governments?

If the policy is to comply – do you hand over information to governments like China and Burma that treat their citizens in ways we not agree with?

If the policy is to refuse the requests – would you refuse a request from Canada? or England? or any other country the USA considers an ally? Would you turn over details of Osama bin Lada’s SL account?

Or are you now confused and thinking that you might pick and choose which governments you might comply with and which you wouldn’t? If so what basis will you use to discriminate?

Would you turn over Osama to the Chinese or Burmese government?

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