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		<title>By: ProteusPater</title>
		<link>http://alphavilleherald.com/2008/04/sl-military-div.html/comment-page-2#comment-14265</link>
		<dc:creator>ProteusPater</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 00:14:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Proteus Hand violated SL age restrictions. His account and all accounts in association with his are subject to review and banning at Linden discretion even. FYI
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		<title>By: Phillip Hultcrantz</title>
		<link>http://alphavilleherald.com/2008/04/sl-military-div.html/comment-page-2#comment-14264</link>
		<dc:creator>Phillip Hultcrantz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 14:04:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t help but agree in every way with Squeezeone Pow. Far too long has the SL Military game sunk to it&#039;s lowest lows. People have so much troubling putting aside their differances.

On many occasions I&#039;ve spoken with Harlequin Salome(Seemed to me like 2 friends speaking to each other) And of course (I think) He and I have a great deal of respect for eachother and regeard each other highly. Jim Herbst and I speak well toward eachother.

I have whitnessed, though, them speaking of the Marshal&#039;s of the Merczateers as though they were the scum of the earth. I really do think what happened in the past is what has caused the hate to start, and the involved parties stubborness to force the hatred to continue.

There are so many issues and accusations flying around after attack operations between -every- military in SL. If it were any worse we&#039;d need Drama traffic coltrolers. I get really sick and tired of getting IM&#039;s from people who only bitch and complain becasue they thought they saw one of us sithacking, offsetting, or cheating in some other way. We all keep a very close eye on what goes on during fights, we -know- when somthing bad happens.

I admit, I&#039;ve gotten caught up in it myself a few times, but now I pay attention to my own actions. I never complain anymore I just go with the flow. Most of us in every military do just that, others do not and they are the ones causing the problems.

Of course there are other smaller things that only fuel this fire. That is, the definetion of what each person and group thinks combat should be in SL. Each military has a justified reason for thinking that way.

I myself have a very differant opinion on what would be considered fair or overpowered than Lurdan and Anthony have. I keep a balance in the Merczateers. I made a deal with Lurdan even. He wanted all Merczateer explosives limited to a 5m kill area, I agreed as long as he would agree to the addition of a salvo rule that allows our Anti-Ground aircraft the Skygrasper to fire 2 rockets at a timeand he agreed. My point is that we can all be reasoned with when we are spoken to as though we are a real human with a brain. If things don&#039;t change then SL Military combat is going to become the shithole of SL and it&#039;s goign to fill with the /b/tards who have nothing better to do but pester and annoy eachother, all of the good people will be forced to leave to get away from the idiocy and immaturity.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t help but agree in every way with Squeezeone Pow. Far too long has the SL Military game sunk to it&#8217;s lowest lows. People have so much troubling putting aside their differances.</p>
<p>On many occasions I&#8217;ve spoken with Harlequin Salome(Seemed to me like 2 friends speaking to each other) And of course (I think) He and I have a great deal of respect for eachother and regeard each other highly. Jim Herbst and I speak well toward eachother.</p>
<p>I have whitnessed, though, them speaking of the Marshal&#8217;s of the Merczateers as though they were the scum of the earth. I really do think what happened in the past is what has caused the hate to start, and the involved parties stubborness to force the hatred to continue.</p>
<p>There are so many issues and accusations flying around after attack operations between -every- military in SL. If it were any worse we&#8217;d need Drama traffic coltrolers. I get really sick and tired of getting IM&#8217;s from people who only bitch and complain becasue they thought they saw one of us sithacking, offsetting, or cheating in some other way. We all keep a very close eye on what goes on during fights, we -know- when somthing bad happens.</p>
<p>I admit, I&#8217;ve gotten caught up in it myself a few times, but now I pay attention to my own actions. I never complain anymore I just go with the flow. Most of us in every military do just that, others do not and they are the ones causing the problems.</p>
<p>Of course there are other smaller things that only fuel this fire. That is, the definetion of what each person and group thinks combat should be in SL. Each military has a justified reason for thinking that way.</p>
<p>I myself have a very differant opinion on what would be considered fair or overpowered than Lurdan and Anthony have. I keep a balance in the Merczateers. I made a deal with Lurdan even. He wanted all Merczateer explosives limited to a 5m kill area, I agreed as long as he would agree to the addition of a salvo rule that allows our Anti-Ground aircraft the Skygrasper to fire 2 rockets at a timeand he agreed. My point is that we can all be reasoned with when we are spoken to as though we are a real human with a brain. If things don&#8217;t change then SL Military combat is going to become the shithole of SL and it&#8217;s goign to fill with the /b/tards who have nothing better to do but pester and annoy eachother, all of the good people will be forced to leave to get away from the idiocy and immaturity.</p>
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		<title>By: Inuyasha Deere</title>
		<link>http://alphavilleherald.com/2008/04/sl-military-div.html/comment-page-2#comment-14263</link>
		<dc:creator>Inuyasha Deere</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 02:56:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>STOP THE COCKBIRDS
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		<title>By: Rob Arten</title>
		<link>http://alphavilleherald.com/2008/04/sl-military-div.html/comment-page-2#comment-14262</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob Arten</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 04:32:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As much as I hate to disagree with my CO, I point-blank can\&#039;t see the STABLE 2 talks progressing any further than an adaptive ruleset (i.e. one for each sim) mirroring what we have today. You can please all of the people some of the time, some of the people all of the time, but you can\&#039;t please all of the people all of the time.

There exists as many ideas on how the military scene should function as there are members in the groups. There\&#039;s certainly deviations on the main themes, but it all boils down to two core ideologies.

1. \&#039;The FPS\&#039;: That the military scene should grow to a point like that in console FPS games, whereby each player is given a set of equipment that is available to everyone else and is allowed the flexibility to develop their own skills with said fixed inventory. Sort of reminiscent of the GunGrade system proposed in the MOSCOW treaty.

2. \&#039;The Arms Race\&#039;: That the military scene should just keep growing. After all, LSL gives us the ability to claim technological advantages in the same vein as a real-life arms race. Through the skill of our members do we advance, and so why should it be limited to those with faster graphics cards than the enemy?

Each adopter of said ideologies believes him or herself to be right, and to have the better method. A perfectly reasonable assumption, to be sure. But the two are mutually exclusive. You  frankly cannot have competitive technological development whilst still staying on level ground. I\&#039;m advocating neither approach as the correct one (even though my natural affiliation leans towards \&#039;The Arms Race\&#039;), but for the military community to work as a whole it must, ironically, be split.

The Iron Symphony and the Ascendent Initiative could provide the perfect organisations to catalyse this development. You don\&#039;t play Rugby after all; you either play Rugby Union or Rubgy League (I apologise to anyone not familiar with this analogy). Sure, the same player can play in both, but each has different rules, different leagues and yet you don\&#039;t see them bickering about whose version is \&#039;the better one\&#039;. Come to think of it, that\&#039;s left to the spectators.

Damnit, I meant to write a short post...

First Lieutenant Rob Arten (O-2)
Fleet Division Second-in-Command
Alliance Navy

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As much as I hate to disagree with my CO, I point-blank can\&#8217;t see the STABLE 2 talks progressing any further than an adaptive ruleset (i.e. one for each sim) mirroring what we have today. You can please all of the people some of the time, some of the people all of the time, but you can\&#8217;t please all of the people all of the time.</p>
<p>There exists as many ideas on how the military scene should function as there are members in the groups. There\&#8217;s certainly deviations on the main themes, but it all boils down to two core ideologies.</p>
<p>1. \&#8217;The FPS\&#8217;: That the military scene should grow to a point like that in console FPS games, whereby each player is given a set of equipment that is available to everyone else and is allowed the flexibility to develop their own skills with said fixed inventory. Sort of reminiscent of the GunGrade system proposed in the MOSCOW treaty.</p>
<p>2. \&#8217;The Arms Race\&#8217;: That the military scene should just keep growing. After all, LSL gives us the ability to claim technological advantages in the same vein as a real-life arms race. Through the skill of our members do we advance, and so why should it be limited to those with faster graphics cards than the enemy?</p>
<p>Each adopter of said ideologies believes him or herself to be right, and to have the better method. A perfectly reasonable assumption, to be sure. But the two are mutually exclusive. You  frankly cannot have competitive technological development whilst still staying on level ground. I\&#8217;m advocating neither approach as the correct one (even though my natural affiliation leans towards \&#8217;The Arms Race\&#8217;), but for the military community to work as a whole it must, ironically, be split.</p>
<p>The Iron Symphony and the Ascendent Initiative could provide the perfect organisations to catalyse this development. You don\&#8217;t play Rugby after all; you either play Rugby Union or Rubgy League (I apologise to anyone not familiar with this analogy). Sure, the same player can play in both, but each has different rules, different leagues and yet you don\&#8217;t see them bickering about whose version is \&#8217;the better one\&#8217;. Come to think of it, that\&#8217;s left to the spectators.</p>
<p>Damnit, I meant to write a short post&#8230;</p>
<p>First Lieutenant Rob Arten (O-2)<br />
Fleet Division Second-in-Command<br />
Alliance Navy</p>
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		<title>By: Digital Worlds</title>
		<link>http://alphavilleherald.com/2008/04/sl-military-div.html/comment-page-2#comment-14261</link>
		<dc:creator>Digital Worlds</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 15:59:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;reply to Digital Worlds: Then explain the anti-Sl military signs right at the spawn in point?&quot;

THERE AREN&#039;T ANY. There is a single sign that says a few rules and mentions NOTHING of SL Militaries. Only thing close it mentions is weapons testing...

I have no idea what you are talking about. All it says is:
&quot;* Message Shiney Sprocket to Join the Group
* Prim Spam will result in all objects being returned
* Griefing is not tolerated by new users, contact admin before testing weapons
* Users are allowed to keep structures on the land as long as they don&#039;t greatly increase sim IPS or decrease sim FPS

REMEMBER: WE ARE HERE TO HAVE FUN! Not to pretend this is some alternate reality

*Furries are open game, if you are in a furry suit, don&#039;t expect protection.&quot;


What part of that say anything about SL Militaries?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;reply to Digital Worlds: Then explain the anti-Sl military signs right at the spawn in point?&#8221;</p>
<p>THERE AREN&#8217;T ANY. There is a single sign that says a few rules and mentions NOTHING of SL Militaries. Only thing close it mentions is weapons testing&#8230;</p>
<p>I have no idea what you are talking about. All it says is:<br />
&#8220;* Message Shiney Sprocket to Join the Group<br />
* Prim Spam will result in all objects being returned<br />
* Griefing is not tolerated by new users, contact admin before testing weapons<br />
* Users are allowed to keep structures on the land as long as they don&#8217;t greatly increase sim IPS or decrease sim FPS</p>
<p>REMEMBER: WE ARE HERE TO HAVE FUN! Not to pretend this is some alternate reality</p>
<p>*Furries are open game, if you are in a furry suit, don&#8217;t expect protection.&#8221;</p>
<p>What part of that say anything about SL Militaries?</p>
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		<title>By: Eye Korobase</title>
		<link>http://alphavilleherald.com/2008/04/sl-military-div.html/comment-page-2#comment-14260</link>
		<dc:creator>Eye Korobase</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 12:38:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>reply to Digital Worlds: Then explain the anti-Sl military signs right at the spawn in point?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>reply to Digital Worlds: Then explain the anti-Sl military signs right at the spawn in point?</p>
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		<title>By: Digital Worlds</title>
		<link>http://alphavilleherald.com/2008/04/sl-military-div.html/comment-page-2#comment-14259</link>
		<dc:creator>Digital Worlds</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 01:12:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Reply to Digital Worlds: Also kindly explain why you have a strong anti-Sl military polite on your land then as well?
Not everyone is in Sl armies takes everything seriously and hell, alot of them are 4chaners/ /b/ tards, So why not let them come to your sim and have fun?&quot;

Anti-SL military [police]? I have no idea what you are talking about. SL Militaries have nothing to do with Digital Worlds, for or against, don&#039;t care. SL Military members are free to come to Modish and have fun. Nothing in the rules against that.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Reply to Digital Worlds: Also kindly explain why you have a strong anti-Sl military polite on your land then as well?<br />
Not everyone is in Sl armies takes everything seriously and hell, alot of them are 4chaners/ /b/ tards, So why not let them come to your sim and have fun?&#8221;</p>
<p>Anti-SL military [police]? I have no idea what you are talking about. SL Militaries have nothing to do with Digital Worlds, for or against, don&#8217;t care. SL Military members are free to come to Modish and have fun. Nothing in the rules against that.</p>
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		<title>By: Digital Worlds</title>
		<link>http://alphavilleherald.com/2008/04/sl-military-div.html/comment-page-2#comment-14258</link>
		<dc:creator>Digital Worlds</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 00:50:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The owner of the sim Modish and the group Digital Worlds, shiney Sprocket, is on record openly giving the sim and the group to the PN and saying he didn&#039;t care what they did with it&quot;

Whaaaat........ You couldn&#039;t be more mistaken. The PN attacked Digital Worlds for the longest time because many members of the PN didn&#039;t like the fact Ian dressed in a furry suit. So, this is incorrect part #1.

&quot;(however he retains a residence in the sim, so presumably hes aware of what goes on there. Additionally, shiney was partnered with a PN member, Ian , who is the chief copybotter in the DW group, and remains there.&quot;

Ian is a PN member?! LOL! HAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!! Please, tell me who told you this. I can&#039;t believe how funny of an idea that actually is. The PN allowing Ian to be a memember! That is a riot. The PN would NEVER accept Ian for wearing a fur suit. Incorrect part #2.

&quot;The only accounts banned were those banned by LL, the owners of which simply went and have made new ones and they remain involved in Digital Worlds, including Ian.&quot;

Yes, They were banned by Linden Labs. Why ban an already banned account? Just wasting ban slots with that (they are limited). Not technically incorrect, but neither was what was said before, Ian was banned.


SO TO SUMMARIZE:

#1, Digital Worlds has nothing to do with the PN and was previously under sustained attack from members of that group.

#2, Ian could never be a PN member because, as a PN has said, Ian runs around in a fur suit telling everyone what to do while role playing in a ship for an hour (real insult from PN member directed at Ian)

#3, Does Ian still come by Modish? YES. Is he allowed to place copy botted objects on land? NO. Is he allowed to copy things on the land? NO. Can I travel to his house and stop him from registering new accounts? NO. Does Digital Worlds encourage Ians actions? NO.

#4, shiney Sprocket lets anyone use the land who want to. It is just a giant sandbox. A 3D IRC. A virtual lego set. He does not control how other people decide to use Second Life and leaves those judgments up to Linden Labs.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The owner of the sim Modish and the group Digital Worlds, shiney Sprocket, is on record openly giving the sim and the group to the PN and saying he didn&#8217;t care what they did with it&#8221;</p>
<p>Whaaaat&#8230;&#8230;.. You couldn&#8217;t be more mistaken. The PN attacked Digital Worlds for the longest time because many members of the PN didn&#8217;t like the fact Ian dressed in a furry suit. So, this is incorrect part #1.</p>
<p>&#8220;(however he retains a residence in the sim, so presumably hes aware of what goes on there. Additionally, shiney was partnered with a PN member, Ian , who is the chief copybotter in the DW group, and remains there.&#8221;</p>
<p>Ian is a PN member?! LOL! HAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!! Please, tell me who told you this. I can&#8217;t believe how funny of an idea that actually is. The PN allowing Ian to be a memember! That is a riot. The PN would NEVER accept Ian for wearing a fur suit. Incorrect part #2.</p>
<p>&#8220;The only accounts banned were those banned by LL, the owners of which simply went and have made new ones and they remain involved in Digital Worlds, including Ian.&#8221;</p>
<p>Yes, They were banned by Linden Labs. Why ban an already banned account? Just wasting ban slots with that (they are limited). Not technically incorrect, but neither was what was said before, Ian was banned.</p>
<p>SO TO SUMMARIZE:</p>
<p>#1, Digital Worlds has nothing to do with the PN and was previously under sustained attack from members of that group.</p>
<p>#2, Ian could never be a PN member because, as a PN has said, Ian runs around in a fur suit telling everyone what to do while role playing in a ship for an hour (real insult from PN member directed at Ian)</p>
<p>#3, Does Ian still come by Modish? YES. Is he allowed to place copy botted objects on land? NO. Is he allowed to copy things on the land? NO. Can I travel to his house and stop him from registering new accounts? NO. Does Digital Worlds encourage Ians actions? NO.</p>
<p>#4, shiney Sprocket lets anyone use the land who want to. It is just a giant sandbox. A 3D IRC. A virtual lego set. He does not control how other people decide to use Second Life and leaves those judgments up to Linden Labs.</p>
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		<title>By: Proteus Hand</title>
		<link>http://alphavilleherald.com/2008/04/sl-military-div.html/comment-page-2#comment-14257</link>
		<dc:creator>Proteus Hand</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Apr 2008 07:16:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>how is it that I find Kalel a bigger troll than Anonymous?
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		<title>By: Trazen</title>
		<link>http://alphavilleherald.com/2008/04/sl-military-div.html/comment-page-1#comment-14256</link>
		<dc:creator>Trazen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Apr 2008 06:44:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kalel, you are a fag...
Nobody wants JLU, so shut up.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kalel, you are a fag&#8230;<br />
Nobody wants JLU, so shut up.</p>
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