Comments on: Second Life Image Tarnished by Users?

By: Anon indie developer

Anon indie developer — Wed, 11 Nov 2009 14:45:06 +0000

Justin Bovington is a fucking retard. He’s independently wealthy, so he doesn’t have to worry about trivial things like, “Making actual profit” – he can piss around in SL and claim it’s brilliant all he wants without worrying about it not paying the rent. Justin has burned bridges with dozens of professional developers in Second Life, and he’s a sleazeball that, if you’ve met once, you’ll realize he’s either a cokehead or severely bipolar. Hey Justin WHERE THE FUCK IS DURAN DURAN, HUH!? You got all your damn publicity – you milked that for a YEAR and led on fans and then nothing. No apology. Your builds have sucked ass, and you’re an arrogant fuck. Do us all a favor and go into some other industry, because you’ve sucked fame for yourself from this one and given back NOTHING!

By: Lewis Nerd

Lewis Nerd — Sat, 02 Aug 2008 02:07:28 +0000

Oh dear… is business really that bad for Rivers Run Red that they want to restrict the whole damn point of Second Life – the ability to create your own world – to just their big building company, and tolerate the 2 or 3 other ‘big players’ in the content creation industry?

The virtual world is plenty big enough for everyone, you can make your big multi island builds, and leave the rest of SL to other talented, but smaller, builders like me, and those who build for fun.

I build because I enjoy it. I did a little job for someone this week that paid me L$2500 for about 5 hours work. Yep, barely minimum wage for ONE hour … but it was fun. My SL life doesn’t revolve around profit, deadlines, cost/benefit analysis and targets.

You guys have enough of a monopoly as it is when it comes to exposure – doesn’t make you any better a set of builders, in all honesty. Always makes me chuckle how you ‘explain away’ the failure of a project as ‘it was only meant to run for a limited period anyway’.

Here’s an idea for you … if you don’t like what the rest of us create, if it’s somehow not up to your standards … then why don’t you stop building, rather than telling everyone else to?

By: Dont care, so stop wasting energy.

Dont care, so stop wasting energy. — Fri, 01 Aug 2008 11:53:17 +0000

Newsflash to all of those obsessed with ‘weird’ fetishes:

Despite all your fussing about goreans, furries, and whatnot…

No-one really gives a damn.

If even 10% of the outside world would give a damn, we’d read about the weirdness you obsess over in the newspapers daily. But, we dont. The only places you read about this shit is right here, and one or two other blogs.

Life. Get one, like the rest of us.

By: Anony-Furry

Anony-Furry — Thu, 31 Jul 2008 05:00:13 +0000

Wow, I find it surprising so many people have something against furries, and think they are all macro-herm-sex fiends. In case you didn’t notice, Lively has furries too, or didn’t you watch their promotional video? It’s true, Lively furries don’t have all the “trappings” you mentioned, but most of the ones I know on SL (including myself) don’t have them. It’s just fun RPing a character like one might RP an alien, an elf, or a club owner. It’s a different aspect of creativity that can be fun and enjoyable, and if someone decides to do something behind closed doors doesn’t mean I have to jam open the doors and look, or go where they do that stuff. If you think furries have the sex market on SL bought and paid for, I think you need to redo your statistics. I’ve seen people come up with amazingly good and entertaining avatars. I’ve seen people make terrible ones, and then make great ones down the road as they learn how to improve their building skills. Next thing you know they’re making bank off of selling their wares. Come on, really, get an imagination.

I don’t think Lively will be able to replace SL as it is now. It might get people who know nothing about virtual worlds and don’t realize there’s something better out there, but anyone who does searching will probably end up with SL or at least one of its better competitors.

By: IntLibber Brautigan

IntLibber Brautigan — Tue, 29 Jul 2008 17:55:11 +0000

LOL at RRR. User content is what makes SL the Geocities of the metaverse. Sure 50% of it looks like a trailer park, 40% is nonstop tropical islands with the same bamboo houses, 5% is sims built at a high price by people like RRR for big companies and universities whose sims remain empty of traffic because RRR & Co are unable to get through the numbskulls at corporate marketing. Then in the last few percent you find the truly fun content that is popular and original. These are the sims by Light Waves, the live event venues, the stock exchanges, the Woodbury University…. places that are not just creative but inspire creativity.

SL reflects reality, and yes, in reality, only a small percent of the population is creative, truly original. The rest of the population adopts what others create and makes it their own. So what? Its their right, get off your arrogant high horse. So long as it makes people happy, its none of your business.

By: Lucy T.

Lucy T. — Tue, 29 Jul 2008 15:54:04 +0000

What impressed Toqueville the most was that American democracy actually worked. He wrote, “America demonstrates invincibly one thing that I had doubted up to now: that the middle classes can govern a State. … Despite their small passions, their incomplete education, their vulgar habits, they can obviously provide a practical sort of intelligence and that turns out to be enough.”

By: Moonflake

Moonflake — Tue, 29 Jul 2008 12:27:13 +0000

Alazarin, you really need to read up on your history. RRR pre-date all of those people, in fact RRR have showcased and still work with some of those people you mentioned – some of ‘those’ people are actually part of RRR. They also sponsored and helped make the SLCC happen for over three years. I have personally had the pleasure of meeting part of their team at these events, they’re a great bunch of people dedicated to what they do and what we do.

Second Life has changed, the brands have come and gone. fact. Second Life is a user generated environment. The sad thing is the quote used in this blog seems to be out of context, the original article is specifically addressing the concerns of brands and the ‘adult’ environment. This is why Lively appears to have done that they have done.

There is no doubt that the extreme elements of Second Life have damaged us all. There is also no doubt that this minority is also not representative of the overall community. The real sad thing is that blogs like SLH have given these groups/people a forum of exposure – sad.

Also, it’s not just RRR, even Mitch Kapor is discussing the change in virtual worlds. Change is coming, it won’t though effect my enjoyment of creating in Second Life.

As for ‘biting the hand that fed them’ you need to see their website, they’re the only developers from the original ‘big three’ still working and developing on the Second Life platform. disclaimer: I do occasional work for them on a freelance basis, they are also the only people I have worked for who pay on time!

By: Alazarin

Alazarin — Mon, 28 Jul 2008 17:02:48 +0000

Well, RRR would say that, wouldn’t they? If the like of RRR had their way right from the start we’d have had no Aimee Webers, Starax Statoskys, Lumiere Noirs, Plastic Ducks or any of the countless other creative geniuses who came out of nowhere to make SL what it is. RRR point at the sludge that came in riding on the coattails or greatness. What RRR, ESC and their ilk forget is that without the trailblazers who kicked open the doors by showing the possibilities they would never have bothered colonising SL with their corporate arrogance.

In that sense RRR is no better that your average low-life adfarmer. What do they offer the residents of SL that any number of the residents can’t do better and cheaper, to boot?

By: Netbuilder

Netbuilder — Mon, 28 Jul 2008 14:44:42 +0000

Reading this article brings me back to the orginal WWW build out.
1) Open source- was has been and allways will be the fuel that powers the Internet. It is the freedom of expression that allows any one with a good idea or concept to contribute and reap the rewards of success. Its the ultimate open market where the consumer determines the value of the product.

2) While I personally do not like the fringe. I also have to acknowlege that the investment dollars needed to sustain a product through development usually come from a fringe source.

Lastly try to remember that while today google is a 800 lb gorilla . Yesterday it was Yahoo, Excite , Lycos and tommorrow maybey you .

By: Jumpman Lane

Jumpman Lane — Mon, 28 Jul 2008 13:26:39 +0000

GOOGLE! Just another 3d noobe rl company gettin suckered by saps like electirc sheep and rivers run red.