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		<title>By: james</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Feb 2016 01:32:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MAAAAAD late post, but I feel I need to say something, for what it is worth.

Reality is a male. This means he has no right to decide what a woman is allowed to do with her body. The only ones who should be making the ultimate legal decision on whether or not (an to what extent) Abortion should be allowed or not (federally and overarching) are women... as in, those who would be directly affected by the decision. Men shouldn&#039;t have an opinion nor a vote on the subject. This is the domain of women and women only. (protip: Gorean philosophy notwithstanding, since it&#039;s uhhhh.. not real and has no place in reality anymore?)

It is not fair for men to make decisions about women, particularly when the decision on said rights will not directly impact their lives apart from the disappointment or satisfaction that whatever belief system they adhere to may or may not be likewise satisfied. Anti-Abortion legislative attempts and movements are inherently religious, the beliefs of the supporters notwithstanding.

Because such legislation is inherently religious by nature of the principals of perceived necessity, it is technically illegal to pass as law because of that pesky Establishment Clause, which rather broadly forbids religion from having any favour from the government. &quot;Congress shall pass no law respecting an establishment of religion... (goes on to also forbid religion being being banned, too)&quot;. What does this mean? it means two things: You can&#039;t pass a law that establishes a state religion and you cannot pass a law that directly satisfies the desires and interests of a religious establishment... in other worlds, if any potential legislation (called a bill) is introduced and it is either written by, Heavily favoured by and/or contains language that favours or prescribes policy known to be a major religious position, it is unconstitutional straightaway and thus is actually subject to immediate nullification and repeal the moment it is discovered and people bring attention to it. 

So I&#039;m sorry if this offends anyone&#039;s faith or beliefs, but the simple matter is that it is common sense and it is also a matter of constitutionality. There is little to no secular reason, let alone support, for anti-abortion movements. By and large, it is a conservative position and EXTREMELY religiously inspired, supported, and lobbied. Of course, the only right way to solve this sordid issue is to ban men from voting on the matter, put it to a public vote, and see what the majority of America&#039;s voting women decide.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MAAAAAD late post, but I feel I need to say something, for what it is worth.</p>
<p>Reality is a male. This means he has no right to decide what a woman is allowed to do with her body. The only ones who should be making the ultimate legal decision on whether or not (an to what extent) Abortion should be allowed or not (federally and overarching) are women&#8230; as in, those who would be directly affected by the decision. Men shouldn&#8217;t have an opinion nor a vote on the subject. This is the domain of women and women only. (protip: Gorean philosophy notwithstanding, since it&#8217;s uhhhh.. not real and has no place in reality anymore?)</p>
<p>It is not fair for men to make decisions about women, particularly when the decision on said rights will not directly impact their lives apart from the disappointment or satisfaction that whatever belief system they adhere to may or may not be likewise satisfied. Anti-Abortion legislative attempts and movements are inherently religious, the beliefs of the supporters notwithstanding.</p>
<p>Because such legislation is inherently religious by nature of the principals of perceived necessity, it is technically illegal to pass as law because of that pesky Establishment Clause, which rather broadly forbids religion from having any favour from the government. &#8220;Congress shall pass no law respecting an establishment of religion&#8230; (goes on to also forbid religion being being banned, too)&#8221;. What does this mean? it means two things: You can&#8217;t pass a law that establishes a state religion and you cannot pass a law that directly satisfies the desires and interests of a religious establishment&#8230; in other worlds, if any potential legislation (called a bill) is introduced and it is either written by, Heavily favoured by and/or contains language that favours or prescribes policy known to be a major religious position, it is unconstitutional straightaway and thus is actually subject to immediate nullification and repeal the moment it is discovered and people bring attention to it. </p>
<p>So I&#8217;m sorry if this offends anyone&#8217;s faith or beliefs, but the simple matter is that it is common sense and it is also a matter of constitutionality. There is little to no secular reason, let alone support, for anti-abortion movements. By and large, it is a conservative position and EXTREMELY religiously inspired, supported, and lobbied. Of course, the only right way to solve this sordid issue is to ban men from voting on the matter, put it to a public vote, and see what the majority of America&#8217;s voting women decide.</p>
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		<title>By: Archie Lukas</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 10:58:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Election day results are in.

So that was a damp squid
was it not?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Election day results are in.</p>
<p>So that was a damp squid<br />
was it not?</p>
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		<title>By: catty</title>
		<link>http://alphavilleherald.com/2008/10/oped-sarah-pali.html/comment-page-2#comment-9506</link>
		<dc:creator>catty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2008 19:01:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Um, you might want to take a look at the crime statistics for countries in which abortion is illegal before you mouth off about the rights and wrongs of forcing people to take on unwanted children and assuming that adoption is a morally superior option.

I thought the article was quite good - and Gor is alway interesting -people actually read books instead of watching p**n cos of Gor you know LOL

Catty
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Um, you might want to take a look at the crime statistics for countries in which abortion is illegal before you mouth off about the rights and wrongs of forcing people to take on unwanted children and assuming that adoption is a morally superior option.</p>
<p>I thought the article was quite good &#8211; and Gor is alway interesting -people actually read books instead of watching p**n cos of Gor you know LOL</p>
<p>Catty</p>
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		<title>By: Archie Lukas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Archie Lukas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2008 03:58:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SL and RL Politics?

Now that&#039;s just plainly sublimely ridiculous



(wrong, stupid, mistaken, unreal and obviously not a story even worth the paper it was not written on)

Separate your two worlds -its called Second Life for a Bloody reason; Jezus wept!!!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SL and RL Politics?</p>
<p>Now that&#8217;s just plainly sublimely ridiculous</p>
<p>(wrong, stupid, mistaken, unreal and obviously not a story even worth the paper it was not written on)</p>
<p>Separate your two worlds -its called Second Life for a Bloody reason; Jezus wept!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Pappy Enoch</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pappy Enoch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 08:56:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kin I beekum a Gorean? I cain&#039;t git no gals no udder way (it am a cornstunt proberlum I has).

A po&#039; hillbilly boy duz whut hee kin to git a gal.  I&#039;m a gonna start grabbin&#039; me sum gals n&#039; telling folks I dun arrived frum Gor so Johnny Law cain&#039;t errest mee.

Vote? I don&#039;t vote nohow.  Ain&#039;t bin nubuddy a-runnin&#039; fo&#039; Cornmander-in-Thief I liked since Junior Sample dropped out o&#039; the runnin&#039; in 1976.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kin I beekum a Gorean? I cain&#8217;t git no gals no udder way (it am a cornstunt proberlum I has).</p>
<p>A po&#8217; hillbilly boy duz whut hee kin to git a gal.  I&#8217;m a gonna start grabbin&#8217; me sum gals n&#8217; telling folks I dun arrived frum Gor so Johnny Law cain&#8217;t errest mee.</p>
<p>Vote? I don&#8217;t vote nohow.  Ain&#8217;t bin nubuddy a-runnin&#8217; fo&#8217; Cornmander-in-Thief I liked since Junior Sample dropped out o&#8217; the runnin&#8217; in 1976.</p>
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		<title>By: 2cents</title>
		<link>http://alphavilleherald.com/2008/10/oped-sarah-pali.html/comment-page-2#comment-9503</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 11:22:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to agree with Reality that for the teen pregnancy cases, the kids should learn a valuable lesson to use any and all precautions available to not get pregnant... Or get an STD.

However, there should be a choice in the matter for everyone, not only for rape victims.
Forcing a teen who got herself/his girlfriend pregnant to have the baby and try and raise it while they should be finishing school is not really a good lesson either.
If I see a 16 year old girl pushing a babystroller, I&#039;m mostly concerned for the little one, and very little for the 16 y.o. mom. Growing up with teen parents I dont think is very good for a child, and is the baby not the subject this whole discussion should be about?

Better would be to make kids, boys and girls both, realize and understand that however fun sex may be, it&#039;s also something very, VERY special shared between people who love eachother, and should be taken seriously as such. (Even if you dont concider the risks of pregnancy or STD&#039;s.)

I gave away my virginity just like that as well, and regretted it a lot when I met the love of my life :(

As a final point...

Each and every case of pregnancy, is a whole different case from all others. You cant really make a law that only allows rapevictims to get an abortion and no-one else, there is a too large grey area. Real life isnt as black and white as a law like this.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to agree with Reality that for the teen pregnancy cases, the kids should learn a valuable lesson to use any and all precautions available to not get pregnant&#8230; Or get an STD.</p>
<p>However, there should be a choice in the matter for everyone, not only for rape victims.<br />
Forcing a teen who got herself/his girlfriend pregnant to have the baby and try and raise it while they should be finishing school is not really a good lesson either.<br />
If I see a 16 year old girl pushing a babystroller, I&#8217;m mostly concerned for the little one, and very little for the 16 y.o. mom. Growing up with teen parents I dont think is very good for a child, and is the baby not the subject this whole discussion should be about?</p>
<p>Better would be to make kids, boys and girls both, realize and understand that however fun sex may be, it&#8217;s also something very, VERY special shared between people who love eachother, and should be taken seriously as such. (Even if you dont concider the risks of pregnancy or STD&#8217;s.)</p>
<p>I gave away my virginity just like that as well, and regretted it a lot when I met the love of my life <img src='http://alphavilleherald.com/site/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>As a final point&#8230;</p>
<p>Each and every case of pregnancy, is a whole different case from all others. You cant really make a law that only allows rapevictims to get an abortion and no-one else, there is a too large grey area. Real life isnt as black and white as a law like this.</p>
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		<title>By: Corona Anatine</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 08:32:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On March 25, 2004, the Senate passed the Unborn Victims of Violence Act (S.1019) by a vote of 61-38. From Kate Michelman, President of NARAL Pro-Choice America:

Sen. Diane Feinstein (D-Calif.) proposed a substitute amendment that had the same structure and similar penalties as the bill that passed, but did not undermine Roe v. Wade by recognizing an embryo or fetus as a separate legal &quot;person.&quot; This amendment failed by a very close vote of 50-49.

The only difference between the bill the Senate passed and the Feinstein alternative the Senate rejected is simple-giving separate legal status to a fetus or embryo. The reason it&#039;s there was explained by anti-abortion leader Samuel Casey. &quot;In as many areas as we can, we want to put on the books that the embryo is a person. . . That sets the stage for a jurist to acknowledge that human beings at any stage of development deserve protection-even protection that would trump a woman&#039;s interest in terminating a pregnancy.&quot;

It&#039;s an effort that is not limited to this bill. Around the country, anti-abortion legislators have moved forward with initiatives to grant separate legal status to the fetus or embryo as early as the moment after conception. They are even getting bolder in trying to force direct legal challenges to Roe in a number of states, and in two federal courts.


eve from the moment of conception

followed no doupt by laws making any menstuarating woman guilty of murder
then it will be the turn of men who  masturbate
( which  would  spell the end for Gor in SL or RL)

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On March 25, 2004, the Senate passed the Unborn Victims of Violence Act (S.1019) by a vote of 61-38. From Kate Michelman, President of NARAL Pro-Choice America:</p>
<p>Sen. Diane Feinstein (D-Calif.) proposed a substitute amendment that had the same structure and similar penalties as the bill that passed, but did not undermine Roe v. Wade by recognizing an embryo or fetus as a separate legal &#8220;person.&#8221; This amendment failed by a very close vote of 50-49.</p>
<p>The only difference between the bill the Senate passed and the Feinstein alternative the Senate rejected is simple-giving separate legal status to a fetus or embryo. The reason it&#8217;s there was explained by anti-abortion leader Samuel Casey. &#8220;In as many areas as we can, we want to put on the books that the embryo is a person. . . That sets the stage for a jurist to acknowledge that human beings at any stage of development deserve protection-even protection that would trump a woman&#8217;s interest in terminating a pregnancy.&#8221;</p>
<p>It&#8217;s an effort that is not limited to this bill. Around the country, anti-abortion legislators have moved forward with initiatives to grant separate legal status to the fetus or embryo as early as the moment after conception. They are even getting bolder in trying to force direct legal challenges to Roe in a number of states, and in two federal courts.</p>
<p>eve from the moment of conception</p>
<p>followed no doupt by laws making any menstuarating woman guilty of murder<br />
then it will be the turn of men who  masturbate<br />
( which  would  spell the end for Gor in SL or RL)</p>
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		<title>By: unreality</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 05:47:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can agree with reality on one thing
the conversation has sunk close to year 7 levels - so is not worth further contribution
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can agree with reality on one thing<br />
the conversation has sunk close to year 7 levels &#8211; so is not worth further contribution</p>
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		<title>By: Public Service Announcement Repeating...</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Oct 2008 22:13:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DO NOT ATTEMPT TO ARGUE WITH THE CLOSE-MINDED FALSE DEBATER CALLED &quot;REALITY&quot;

&quot;REALITY&quot; ARGUES FROM THE BASIS THAT HE IS ALWAYS RIGHT, AND SO REJECTS ANY OPPOSING ARGUMENT

ARGUMENT WITH CLOSE-MINDED ENTITY IS FUTILE

AVOID AT ALL COSTS
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DO NOT ATTEMPT TO ARGUE WITH THE CLOSE-MINDED FALSE DEBATER CALLED &#8220;REALITY&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;REALITY&#8221; ARGUES FROM THE BASIS THAT HE IS ALWAYS RIGHT, AND SO REJECTS ANY OPPOSING ARGUMENT</p>
<p>ARGUMENT WITH CLOSE-MINDED ENTITY IS FUTILE</p>
<p>AVOID AT ALL COSTS</p>
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