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	<title>Comments on: Open Spaces Protest Closes Nautilus Sim!</title>
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		<title>By: The Hidden Meaning of SL7B. &#171; The Bot Zone</title>
		<link>http://alphavilleherald.com/2008/10/save-our-open-s.html/comment-page-1#comment-61061</link>
		<dc:creator>The Hidden Meaning of SL7B. &#171; The Bot Zone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jun 2010 07:54:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the last location of your missing Slim Jims, or whether or not you remembered to pay this months tier. Something was out of place or just not quite right, and I needed to know what it [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Gershom</title>
		<link>http://alphavilleherald.com/2008/10/save-our-open-s.html/comment-page-1#comment-8910</link>
		<dc:creator>Gershom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Nov 2008 22:09:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The thing that baffles me is that the rental Sims I frequent normally have less then 10 avatars on them.  They might as well be open spaces.  They might need more than the number of prims allowed in open spaces though.

Now gathering places, like schools, pubs, and beaches, etc, almost always have more avatars so they would have to be regular sims.

Suffice it to say that the bit about not renting open spaces seems a little off the wall.  And if someone wants to live with the prim restrictions, why not?

The bottom line seems to be that LL is thinking they can convert all of open spaces into higher paying regualr sims and thus increase their revenue.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The thing that baffles me is that the rental Sims I frequent normally have less then 10 avatars on them.  They might as well be open spaces.  They might need more than the number of prims allowed in open spaces though.</p>
<p>Now gathering places, like schools, pubs, and beaches, etc, almost always have more avatars so they would have to be regular sims.</p>
<p>Suffice it to say that the bit about not renting open spaces seems a little off the wall.  And if someone wants to live with the prim restrictions, why not?</p>
<p>The bottom line seems to be that LL is thinking they can convert all of open spaces into higher paying regualr sims and thus increase their revenue.</p>
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		<title>By: IntLibber Brautigan</title>
		<link>http://alphavilleherald.com/2008/10/save-our-open-s.html/comment-page-1#comment-8909</link>
		<dc:creator>IntLibber Brautigan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 22:25:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Witness X,
Shut up, Kalel&#039;s alt, your own members hate you now.

As for what I said, I got that straight from SEVERAL Lindens. There is a massive amount of opposition to this bullshit inside the lab. The Cyn/Jack/Harry troika is destroying LL and SL. Time for M to fire them and get people running things who actually care about the customers and understand about running a business.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Witness X,<br />
Shut up, Kalel&#8217;s alt, your own members hate you now.</p>
<p>As for what I said, I got that straight from SEVERAL Lindens. There is a massive amount of opposition to this bullshit inside the lab. The Cyn/Jack/Harry troika is destroying LL and SL. Time for M to fire them and get people running things who actually care about the customers and understand about running a business.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://alphavilleherald.com/2008/10/save-our-open-s.html/comment-page-1#comment-8908</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 05:04:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;That way they can rez more permanent objects to express their disgust with the price hike.&quot;

*sings* It&#039;s beginning to look a lot like spengbab. Diiicks everywhereee~
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;That way they can rez more permanent objects to express their disgust with the price hike.&#8221;</p>
<p>*sings* It&#8217;s beginning to look a lot like spengbab. Diiicks everywhereee~</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://alphavilleherald.com/2008/10/save-our-open-s.html/comment-page-1#comment-8907</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 04:57:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;WHAT LL DID IS CRIMINAL BLAH BLAH BLAH&quot;

Hey, listen, the best way to best LL at their own game is to not play. Don&#039;t play it, don&#039;t give them a penny, take what you do have and leave quickly. there are better games to play, and give it a year if you like playing dull, boring, drama filled shit holes called &quot;games&quot; (Oh I&#039;m sorry, I haven&#039;t had the linden kool-aid yet, so I will continue to call it a game.)

snap the fuck out of it and realize that you, as a paying customer, still don&#039;t have rights, Linden Lab doesn&#039;t care about being a fair governing force, they just care about profit. Granted you do have some lindens who are addicted to the game and want to wield power over others and generally abuse their roles, but the company&#039;s main interest is not you. They don&#039;t care if you protest, they honestly don&#039;t. When you protest inworld, it&#039;s pointless and gives Linden Labs the comfort that you&#039;re truly addicted to their little shitty game, and can continue to kick you around like a small defenseless puppy. They know people are addicted, so they will continue to abuse a somewhat captive audience.

I can see some justification on their end, people essentially abused a resource meant for a completely different purpose, and they realized that afterwards. However, the fucked up part is the fact they inadvertently (or intentionally, a strong possibility given their long record of bullshit and shady practices) scammed the people who bought these watered down sims, not laying any ground rules on what they&#039;re meant for, and now they&#039;re going to jack up the pricing on them and fuck over many people who may have been using them for legitimate purposes. Linden Labs obviously won&#039;t do anything to stop doing this, too much new money for them to make in a dying virtual world.

good luck on FIGHTING DA MAN inworld, with LL&#039;s own resources, own prims, and own avatars (they own your avatars, more or less. if you really did own them, you&#039;d be able to save them to your computer)
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;WHAT LL DID IS CRIMINAL BLAH BLAH BLAH&#8221;</p>
<p>Hey, listen, the best way to best LL at their own game is to not play. Don&#8217;t play it, don&#8217;t give them a penny, take what you do have and leave quickly. there are better games to play, and give it a year if you like playing dull, boring, drama filled shit holes called &#8220;games&#8221; (Oh I&#8217;m sorry, I haven&#8217;t had the linden kool-aid yet, so I will continue to call it a game.)</p>
<p>snap the fuck out of it and realize that you, as a paying customer, still don&#8217;t have rights, Linden Lab doesn&#8217;t care about being a fair governing force, they just care about profit. Granted you do have some lindens who are addicted to the game and want to wield power over others and generally abuse their roles, but the company&#8217;s main interest is not you. They don&#8217;t care if you protest, they honestly don&#8217;t. When you protest inworld, it&#8217;s pointless and gives Linden Labs the comfort that you&#8217;re truly addicted to their little shitty game, and can continue to kick you around like a small defenseless puppy. They know people are addicted, so they will continue to abuse a somewhat captive audience.</p>
<p>I can see some justification on their end, people essentially abused a resource meant for a completely different purpose, and they realized that afterwards. However, the fucked up part is the fact they inadvertently (or intentionally, a strong possibility given their long record of bullshit and shady practices) scammed the people who bought these watered down sims, not laying any ground rules on what they&#8217;re meant for, and now they&#8217;re going to jack up the pricing on them and fuck over many people who may have been using them for legitimate purposes. Linden Labs obviously won&#8217;t do anything to stop doing this, too much new money for them to make in a dying virtual world.</p>
<p>good luck on FIGHTING DA MAN inworld, with LL&#8217;s own resources, own prims, and own avatars (they own your avatars, more or less. if you really did own them, you&#8217;d be able to save them to your computer)</p>
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		<title>By: Obscure Doodad</title>
		<link>http://alphavilleherald.com/2008/10/save-our-open-s.html/comment-page-1#comment-8906</link>
		<dc:creator>Obscure Doodad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 02:08:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Look at you people.  Look at your comments.

You&#039;re missing the point.

It has nothing to do with ANYTHING in SL.  It&#039;s not about &quot;Open Space Abuse&quot;.  It&#039;s not about who does what with the sims.  It&#039;s not about if you already paid for it and now you don&#039;t get what you want.  It&#039;s not about &quot;talking to them&quot;.

It&#039;s about RL money.  LL has problems just like everyone else from the RL market crashes (plural).  They Have To Raise Money.  It doesn&#039;t matter how.  They manufactured some rationale (open space abuse) to justify the particular method they settled on.  If open spaces were 100% pure and no abuse anywhere, This Still Would Have Happened.  They would just have manufactured a different reason.  The reason is money.  It&#039;s not about anything else and it never will be -- and they CAN&#039;T admit it because at any point in time LL is probably ALWAYS negotiating with a potential buyer.

The only way to stop it is to KNOW how many sim owners you need to persuade to abandon land.  Exceed the revenue input of the price increase with revenue lost from abandonment and the policy will change.  There is no reason for them to change it otherwise and they won&#039;t.

Complaints mean nothing.  Protests mean nothing.  Figure out how many have to abandon and that&#039;s the number that has to be reached for this to reverse.  Nothing else will do it.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Look at you people.  Look at your comments.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re missing the point.</p>
<p>It has nothing to do with ANYTHING in SL.  It&#8217;s not about &#8220;Open Space Abuse&#8221;.  It&#8217;s not about who does what with the sims.  It&#8217;s not about if you already paid for it and now you don&#8217;t get what you want.  It&#8217;s not about &#8220;talking to them&#8221;.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s about RL money.  LL has problems just like everyone else from the RL market crashes (plural).  They Have To Raise Money.  It doesn&#8217;t matter how.  They manufactured some rationale (open space abuse) to justify the particular method they settled on.  If open spaces were 100% pure and no abuse anywhere, This Still Would Have Happened.  They would just have manufactured a different reason.  The reason is money.  It&#8217;s not about anything else and it never will be &#8212; and they CAN&#8217;T admit it because at any point in time LL is probably ALWAYS negotiating with a potential buyer.</p>
<p>The only way to stop it is to KNOW how many sim owners you need to persuade to abandon land.  Exceed the revenue input of the price increase with revenue lost from abandonment and the policy will change.  There is no reason for them to change it otherwise and they won&#8217;t.</p>
<p>Complaints mean nothing.  Protests mean nothing.  Figure out how many have to abandon and that&#8217;s the number that has to be reached for this to reverse.  Nothing else will do it.</p>
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		<title>By: Carel</title>
		<link>http://alphavilleherald.com/2008/10/save-our-open-s.html/comment-page-1#comment-8905</link>
		<dc:creator>Carel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 21:20:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I still can not get the fact it is justified to increase 67% with no option from LL to buy back the os areas or spare the ppl that filled their bank more then they do now but just saying, pay up or abandon.
Its understandable that because of the abuse, changes had to be made, but isn’t it LL who made this abuse available with the price reduce and the (over)promoting of the os islands? In my mind the most honest thing to do back then was to increase the prims as was asked and leave the price be, the only reason it was made attractive to people and dig into their imagination on what to do with open space (and they knew that) was the price and prims.

I hope LL will do the descent thing and this time help ppl with getting rid of their os if they cant / wont pay the new tiers anymore, by buying back the land or giving a option to convert free with no costs.

The comment made of us in need to grow up works both ways, as well for us as for LL, they need to be grownups to and understand you can never get a stable and reliable business with steady users / customers if every year a bunch of ppl walk due to mismanagement.

For me, I stopped investing my earned Linden dollars into sl and start to take them out. a small amount less to the sl economy, but hey, at least I don’t pack up my bags and leave completely as many do everything trust is hurt in SL.
We all are in Sl but with RL feelings smiles and most important RL money that me personal don’t mind to open for fair and honest usage.. but not for this kind of game play. this is not WOW were you pay for exp to level, you invest in a dream most of the time, and LL *in my eyes* ruined a lot of good dreams already...

my thoughts, a beta starting sl player
yeah baby WE started this shit ! *grins*

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I still can not get the fact it is justified to increase 67% with no option from LL to buy back the os areas or spare the ppl that filled their bank more then they do now but just saying, pay up or abandon.<br />
Its understandable that because of the abuse, changes had to be made, but isn’t it LL who made this abuse available with the price reduce and the (over)promoting of the os islands? In my mind the most honest thing to do back then was to increase the prims as was asked and leave the price be, the only reason it was made attractive to people and dig into their imagination on what to do with open space (and they knew that) was the price and prims.</p>
<p>I hope LL will do the descent thing and this time help ppl with getting rid of their os if they cant / wont pay the new tiers anymore, by buying back the land or giving a option to convert free with no costs.</p>
<p>The comment made of us in need to grow up works both ways, as well for us as for LL, they need to be grownups to and understand you can never get a stable and reliable business with steady users / customers if every year a bunch of ppl walk due to mismanagement.</p>
<p>For me, I stopped investing my earned Linden dollars into sl and start to take them out. a small amount less to the sl economy, but hey, at least I don’t pack up my bags and leave completely as many do everything trust is hurt in SL.<br />
We all are in Sl but with RL feelings smiles and most important RL money that me personal don’t mind to open for fair and honest usage.. but not for this kind of game play. this is not WOW were you pay for exp to level, you invest in a dream most of the time, and LL *in my eyes* ruined a lot of good dreams already&#8230;</p>
<p>my thoughts, a beta starting sl player<br />
yeah baby WE started this shit ! *grins*</p>
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		<title>By: Curious Rousselot</title>
		<link>http://alphavilleherald.com/2008/10/save-our-open-s.html/comment-page-1#comment-8904</link>
		<dc:creator>Curious Rousselot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 20:35:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>UPDATE: it is now 2:39 PM PDT October 29, 2008 and, not surprisingly, the protesters in Nautilus - Shalim are still going strong. Few, if any of the protesters are still wearing their -SOS- group tags any more but the banners are still present. The owner of the plot where this is happening, Kalyrra Heart, is also one of the protesters. That way they can rez more permanent objects to express their disgust with the price hike.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>UPDATE: it is now 2:39 PM PDT October 29, 2008 and, not surprisingly, the protesters in Nautilus &#8211; Shalim are still going strong. Few, if any of the protesters are still wearing their -SOS- group tags any more but the banners are still present. The owner of the plot where this is happening, Kalyrra Heart, is also one of the protesters. That way they can rez more permanent objects to express their disgust with the price hike.</p>
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		<title>By: Ruprecht</title>
		<link>http://alphavilleherald.com/2008/10/save-our-open-s.html/comment-page-1#comment-8903</link>
		<dc:creator>Ruprecht</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 19:21:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Frankly if LL simply got out of the estate business alltogether, made all mainland into private estates&quot;

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

delusional manboob wet dream
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Frankly if LL simply got out of the estate business alltogether, made all mainland into private estates&#8221;</p>
<p>AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA</p>
<p>delusional manboob wet dream</p>
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		<title>By: Witness X</title>
		<link>http://alphavilleherald.com/2008/10/save-our-open-s.html/comment-page-1#comment-8902</link>
		<dc:creator>Witness X</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 17:41:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And once again we see a classic example of why Intlibber&#039;s business is in the toilet - HE ACTUALLY THINKS THE HEAD OF THE GTEAM IS BEHIND THE WHOLE THING, adding further proof to the theory that he&#039;s a paranoid psychopath.

Lol.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And once again we see a classic example of why Intlibber&#8217;s business is in the toilet &#8211; HE ACTUALLY THINKS THE HEAD OF THE GTEAM IS BEHIND THE WHOLE THING, adding further proof to the theory that he&#8217;s a paranoid psychopath.</p>
<p>Lol.</p>
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