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	<title>Comments on: The MegaPrim Spite Fence of Bear Sim</title>
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		<title>By: Betty Boop</title>
		<link>http://alphavilleherald.com/2008/11/the-megaprim-sp.html/comment-page-1#comment-8312</link>
		<dc:creator>Betty Boop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 10:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why should a premium account holder be forced to pick up thousands of prims, all custom builds, and move to who-knows-where after paying the service provider since 2005 to be on the Bear server? She was there the week that sim rezzed. At least a month before a road or telhub. Torley asked hr in 2006 if she wanted a infohub there and she agreed. He said it was for new players to rez and explore (as it was used for until 2007). This customer should not be inconvenienced because of the wife of a employee of the service provider. That&#039;s just crazy.

If anyone is acting crazy over a small parcel its Ravenelle - and she has never had to pay a dime in Bear sim. Unlike Lias who pays hundreds a year. The other crazies are the bunch hanging out in the infohub. Get a life, get a grip - go pick your ass somewhere else. Problem solved.


I found the first documented complaint about overcrowding of Lias Leandros aka bladyblue Bommerang - all the way back in March of 2007
http://forums.secondlife.com/showthread.php?t=160923

And Torley&#039;s communication with her regarding the infohub build
March, 2006
http://forums.secondlife.com/showthread.php?t=93484

So be very aware if you decide to agree to do anything with Linden Lab. You will probably be GOM&#039;d in the same manner.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why should a premium account holder be forced to pick up thousands of prims, all custom builds, and move to who-knows-where after paying the service provider since 2005 to be on the Bear server? She was there the week that sim rezzed. At least a month before a road or telhub. Torley asked hr in 2006 if she wanted a infohub there and she agreed. He said it was for new players to rez and explore (as it was used for until 2007). This customer should not be inconvenienced because of the wife of a employee of the service provider. That&#8217;s just crazy.</p>
<p>If anyone is acting crazy over a small parcel its Ravenelle &#8211; and she has never had to pay a dime in Bear sim. Unlike Lias who pays hundreds a year. The other crazies are the bunch hanging out in the infohub. Get a life, get a grip &#8211; go pick your ass somewhere else. Problem solved.</p>
<p>I found the first documented complaint about overcrowding of Lias Leandros aka bladyblue Bommerang &#8211; all the way back in March of 2007<br />
<a href="http://forums.secondlife.com/showthread.php?t=160923" rel="nofollow">http://forums.secondlife.com/showthread.php?t=160923</a></p>
<p>And Torley&#8217;s communication with her regarding the infohub build<br />
March, 2006<br />
<a href="http://forums.secondlife.com/showthread.php?t=93484" rel="nofollow">http://forums.secondlife.com/showthread.php?t=93484</a></p>
<p>So be very aware if you decide to agree to do anything with Linden Lab. You will probably be GOM&#8217;d in the same manner.</p>
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		<title>By: Insight Homewood</title>
		<link>http://alphavilleherald.com/2008/11/the-megaprim-sp.html/comment-page-1#comment-8311</link>
		<dc:creator>Insight Homewood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 00:36:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this IS SL, right? An offer to move was declined. What for? As another poster pointed out, it&#039;s a simple task to take your stuff and put it down someplace else. It&#039;s also very easy to leave a sign with the new SLURL on it. If she advertises it is a simple matter to edit the add with the new SLURL. Sounds to me like this article is totally one-sided and biased.This owner is totally sucked into SL as if it was REAL estate. It&#039;s virtual server space. Get virtual already, stop acting real.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this IS SL, right? An offer to move was declined. What for? As another poster pointed out, it&#8217;s a simple task to take your stuff and put it down someplace else. It&#8217;s also very easy to leave a sign with the new SLURL on it. If she advertises it is a simple matter to edit the add with the new SLURL. Sounds to me like this article is totally one-sided and biased.This owner is totally sucked into SL as if it was REAL estate. It&#8217;s virtual server space. Get virtual already, stop acting real.</p>
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		<title>By: Junelle</title>
		<link>http://alphavilleherald.com/2008/11/the-megaprim-sp.html/comment-page-1#comment-8310</link>
		<dc:creator>Junelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 23:19:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I am so sorry you were so emotional damaged by your employment in her club.&quot;

And I am so sorry you feel so defensive about it that you have decided to project your hysterical and hyperbolic thoughts onto me. I&#039;m not damaged, I moved on to other gainful, rewarding adventures when I realised what a selfish twit she was. That doesn&#039;t mean I took an oath to not point out her behaviour.

This is just another one of her paranoid tempests in a teapot.

And it isn&#039;t every club owner. I have hosted for places that treated us with respect, instead of treating us as if they owned our avatars and overreached into our personal lives.

Maybe if she treated SL as a community rather than a tool to extract money and &quot;power&quot; from others, she wouldn&#039;t always be surrounded by drama. This situation doesn&#039;t exist in a vacuum, you know. She has a history of this sort of thing, and never misses an opportunity to take a shot at her perceived enemies while trying to martyr herself.

Anyway, I&#039;ve said my piece, you can now return to patrolling this comment section, defending your idol.


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I am so sorry you were so emotional damaged by your employment in her club.&#8221;</p>
<p>And I am so sorry you feel so defensive about it that you have decided to project your hysterical and hyperbolic thoughts onto me. I&#8217;m not damaged, I moved on to other gainful, rewarding adventures when I realised what a selfish twit she was. That doesn&#8217;t mean I took an oath to not point out her behaviour.</p>
<p>This is just another one of her paranoid tempests in a teapot.</p>
<p>And it isn&#8217;t every club owner. I have hosted for places that treated us with respect, instead of treating us as if they owned our avatars and overreached into our personal lives.</p>
<p>Maybe if she treated SL as a community rather than a tool to extract money and &#8220;power&#8221; from others, she wouldn&#8217;t always be surrounded by drama. This situation doesn&#8217;t exist in a vacuum, you know. She has a history of this sort of thing, and never misses an opportunity to take a shot at her perceived enemies while trying to martyr herself.</p>
<p>Anyway, I&#8217;ve said my piece, you can now return to patrolling this comment section, defending your idol.</p>
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		<title>By: IntLibber Brautigan</title>
		<link>http://alphavilleherald.com/2008/11/the-megaprim-sp.html/comment-page-1#comment-8309</link>
		<dc:creator>IntLibber Brautigan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 23:08:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok as far as I can see, the fact that the wall is transparent from the OUTSIDE, but not the INSIDE indicates to me that Ravenelle/Torley want to:

a) prevent noobs from seeing adjacent businesses, i.e. causing them damage

b) making them transparent on the outside means those adjacent businesses and their customers are still lagged to hell by having to rezz all the noobs hanging out in the infohub. If the outside was opaque, their lag would be reduced,

So the wall is clearly not there to help them at all, it is intended to hinder neighbors commercial activities. Sad but not surprising, LL&#039;s predatory behavior toward their best PAYING customers is now legendary, which is why they have an unsatisfactory rating from the Better Business Bureau.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok as far as I can see, the fact that the wall is transparent from the OUTSIDE, but not the INSIDE indicates to me that Ravenelle/Torley want to:</p>
<p>a) prevent noobs from seeing adjacent businesses, i.e. causing them damage</p>
<p>b) making them transparent on the outside means those adjacent businesses and their customers are still lagged to hell by having to rezz all the noobs hanging out in the infohub. If the outside was opaque, their lag would be reduced,</p>
<p>So the wall is clearly not there to help them at all, it is intended to hinder neighbors commercial activities. Sad but not surprising, LL&#8217;s predatory behavior toward their best PAYING customers is now legendary, which is why they have an unsatisfactory rating from the Better Business Bureau.</p>
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		<title>By: Margrett</title>
		<link>http://alphavilleherald.com/2008/11/the-megaprim-sp.html/comment-page-1#comment-8308</link>
		<dc:creator>Margrett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 22:50:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Linden Lab told the tier payers of the Bear sim that the infohub would be there for new players to explore their sim. If Linden Lab wanted a private parcel for the new players then they could push a button and rez a island. I do nto see any of the builds across from the hub looking exceptionally great
The bikini store and the shop next to it are just stone bunkers with signs on them also. Linden Lab has no right to rez a spitewall between their property and the tier payers in the sim. What sort of message does that send to people? &quot;You can build but if we don&#039;t like it we will get you&quot;. But those builds were there for 6 months before the Linden Infohub spitewall was erected. Lias won&#039;t go so LL is allowing their agent to up the ante on her. And a few innocent Bear tier payers get harassed also. It is stupid of Ll to allow this to go on any longer. make it a non issue and move the Hub. it is useless.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Linden Lab told the tier payers of the Bear sim that the infohub would be there for new players to explore their sim. If Linden Lab wanted a private parcel for the new players then they could push a button and rez a island. I do nto see any of the builds across from the hub looking exceptionally great<br />
The bikini store and the shop next to it are just stone bunkers with signs on them also. Linden Lab has no right to rez a spitewall between their property and the tier payers in the sim. What sort of message does that send to people? &#8220;You can build but if we don&#8217;t like it we will get you&#8221;. But those builds were there for 6 months before the Linden Infohub spitewall was erected. Lias won&#8217;t go so LL is allowing their agent to up the ante on her. And a few innocent Bear tier payers get harassed also. It is stupid of Ll to allow this to go on any longer. make it a non issue and move the Hub. it is useless.</p>
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		<title>By: Jahar Aabye</title>
		<link>http://alphavilleherald.com/2008/11/the-megaprim-sp.html/comment-page-1#comment-8307</link>
		<dc:creator>Jahar Aabye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 18:26:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok, so I checked out the place...did anyone from the Herald actually, y&#039;know, go and look at the wall before publishing this?

The wall is indeed phantom and is transparent from the outside.  It appears to be firmly inside the property line.  It doesn&#039;t obstruct the view of anyone outside of it.

The only purpose that the wall appears to serve is to give the residents inside the infohub a nice forest view instead of looking directly at a wall covered in advertisements across the street.

(however, the wall could probably have been made without megaprims, since they&#039;re only 20x20, they could have just as easily used 10x10)
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, so I checked out the place&#8230;did anyone from the Herald actually, y&#8217;know, go and look at the wall before publishing this?</p>
<p>The wall is indeed phantom and is transparent from the outside.  It appears to be firmly inside the property line.  It doesn&#8217;t obstruct the view of anyone outside of it.</p>
<p>The only purpose that the wall appears to serve is to give the residents inside the infohub a nice forest view instead of looking directly at a wall covered in advertisements across the street.</p>
<p>(however, the wall could probably have been made without megaprims, since they&#8217;re only 20&#215;20, they could have just as easily used 10&#215;10)</p>
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		<title>By: 2 cents</title>
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		<dc:creator>2 cents</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 18:09:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;it is about a service company allowing other customers to harass another.&quot;

who said these guys were providing any kind of service?
they have no clue what &#039;service&#039; begins to behave like!
oh wait - hold up - yea they do provide a service, a service that gives people a new way to harrass one another over beyond what they already do in RL on the streets, over their backyard fences and in the shopping malls.

well I&#039;ll be damned, that&#039;s one heck of a service right there!

for how much you say?  9.99 a month?

hot Damn! Sign me up!
HuH?
whatcha mean?
no f&#039;n way!
no way ur pullin my leg!
Are you serious?
I can get in on this action for FREE?
Zip - Zero - Zilch?
No Interest? No monthly payments?

SIGN
ME
THE
FUCK
UP!

LMAO
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;it is about a service company allowing other customers to harass another.&#8221;</p>
<p>who said these guys were providing any kind of service?<br />
they have no clue what &#8216;service&#8217; begins to behave like!<br />
oh wait &#8211; hold up &#8211; yea they do provide a service, a service that gives people a new way to harrass one another over beyond what they already do in RL on the streets, over their backyard fences and in the shopping malls.</p>
<p>well I&#8217;ll be damned, that&#8217;s one heck of a service right there!</p>
<p>for how much you say?  9.99 a month?</p>
<p>hot Damn! Sign me up!<br />
HuH?<br />
whatcha mean?<br />
no f&#8217;n way!<br />
no way ur pullin my leg!<br />
Are you serious?<br />
I can get in on this action for FREE?<br />
Zip &#8211; Zero &#8211; Zilch?<br />
No Interest? No monthly payments?</p>
<p>SIGN<br />
ME<br />
THE<br />
FUCK<br />
UP!</p>
<p>LMAO</p>
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		<title>By: Jahar Aabye</title>
		<link>http://alphavilleherald.com/2008/11/the-megaprim-sp.html/comment-page-1#comment-8305</link>
		<dc:creator>Jahar Aabye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 17:28:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whatever happened to the saying &quot;Good fences make good neighbors?&quot;

I&#039;ll have to go check this wall out later, but from what&#039;s been described, I&#039;m really not seeing where the issue is.  Someone put up a phantom wall at the Bear infohub.  The wall is described as being transparent on the outside, so others can see in, their view is thus not blocked by the wall.  The wall is being described as having trees on it on the infohub side.  Perhaps this is to block an unwanted view?  Or maybe they just really wanted a tree background.  Dunno, but since the view of the people in the adjacent plot doesn&#039;t seem to be affected, if it really is transparent, and since the wall is phantom and thus not impairing anyone&#039;s ability to move through it, then I don&#039;t really see why it&#039;s creating an issue.  The only serious problem that I see is that it&#039;s a megaprim (ughhh) and those can cause some rendering issues, but since it&#039;s phantom it shouldn&#039;t cause any of the physics issues that megaprims bring.  So yeah, I can see how people might complain that it adds to the client-side rendering lag.

But aside from that, where&#039;s the issue?  Someone in the Bear infohub put up a wall that prevents people in the infohub from seeing an adjacent parcel, without obstructing the view of the people in that parcel?

Quel horreur
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whatever happened to the saying &#8220;Good fences make good neighbors?&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll have to go check this wall out later, but from what&#8217;s been described, I&#8217;m really not seeing where the issue is.  Someone put up a phantom wall at the Bear infohub.  The wall is described as being transparent on the outside, so others can see in, their view is thus not blocked by the wall.  The wall is being described as having trees on it on the infohub side.  Perhaps this is to block an unwanted view?  Or maybe they just really wanted a tree background.  Dunno, but since the view of the people in the adjacent plot doesn&#8217;t seem to be affected, if it really is transparent, and since the wall is phantom and thus not impairing anyone&#8217;s ability to move through it, then I don&#8217;t really see why it&#8217;s creating an issue.  The only serious problem that I see is that it&#8217;s a megaprim (ughhh) and those can cause some rendering issues, but since it&#8217;s phantom it shouldn&#8217;t cause any of the physics issues that megaprims bring.  So yeah, I can see how people might complain that it adds to the client-side rendering lag.</p>
<p>But aside from that, where&#8217;s the issue?  Someone in the Bear infohub put up a wall that prevents people in the infohub from seeing an adjacent parcel, without obstructing the view of the people in that parcel?</p>
<p>Quel horreur</p>
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		<title>By: Margrett</title>
		<link>http://alphavilleherald.com/2008/11/the-megaprim-sp.html/comment-page-1#comment-8304</link>
		<dc:creator>Margrett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 16:25:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Again, This is not about personalities, karma or just-rewards. it is about a service company allowing other customers to harass another. And it&#039;s over a parking lot. Creating a situation that should have been resolved a year ago.

I am so sorry you were so emotional damaged by your employment in her club (lol). But you just described every well-known club owner anywhere.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Again, This is not about personalities, karma or just-rewards. it is about a service company allowing other customers to harass another. And it&#8217;s over a parking lot. Creating a situation that should have been resolved a year ago.</p>
<p>I am so sorry you were so emotional damaged by your employment in her club (lol). But you just described every well-known club owner anywhere.</p>
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		<title>By: Junelle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Junelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 07:11:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lias is a control freak who is just having her own negative energy returned to her. I can guarantee that she brought this upon herself with her shitty and abusive behaviour.

I used to work for her, until I realised what a controlling, egotistical, pinchpenny, manipulative hypocrite she is.

She is just another SL leech, who takes herself and SL way too seriously.


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lias is a control freak who is just having her own negative energy returned to her. I can guarantee that she brought this upon herself with her shitty and abusive behaviour.</p>
<p>I used to work for her, until I realised what a controlling, egotistical, pinchpenny, manipulative hypocrite she is.</p>
<p>She is just another SL leech, who takes herself and SL way too seriously.</p>
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