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	<title>Comments on: Law Enforcement in Second Life: Policing or Pastime?</title>
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		<title>By: Ama Mosely</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ama Mosely</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Oct 2013 20:37:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve played SL going on 6 years. Ive been a cop going on 16 years. Anyone who claims to be a police officer (outside of roleplay) and means it, needs to have a reality check. 

Even if they were a real life police officer, such as myself, the spirit of the internet would pretty much gurantee they have no jurisdiction in the matter which they are &quot;policing&quot;. I for one, could care less about enforcing the law when im playing SL. If i want to go enforce the law I&#039;ll go to work, not do it on a game I like to play on my off time. Minus perhaps a RL Officer helping to set up some sort of RP thing or some such, I can&#039;t see much more involvement.

Stick to the moderators / Abuse reports / etc, even if they don&#039;t do anything. Call the real police about an SL issue, you&#039;re going to get laughed off the phone. Sorry, that&#039;s just how it is. 

Take the Amaretto horses lawsuit for an extreme example of what courts think of SL. 

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve played SL going on 6 years. Ive been a cop going on 16 years. Anyone who claims to be a police officer (outside of roleplay) and means it, needs to have a reality check. </p>
<p>Even if they were a real life police officer, such as myself, the spirit of the internet would pretty much gurantee they have no jurisdiction in the matter which they are &#8220;policing&#8221;. I for one, could care less about enforcing the law when im playing SL. If i want to go enforce the law I&#8217;ll go to work, not do it on a game I like to play on my off time. Minus perhaps a RL Officer helping to set up some sort of RP thing or some such, I can&#8217;t see much more involvement.</p>
<p>Stick to the moderators / Abuse reports / etc, even if they don&#8217;t do anything. Call the real police about an SL issue, you&#8217;re going to get laughed off the phone. Sorry, that&#8217;s just how it is. </p>
<p>Take the Amaretto horses lawsuit for an extreme example of what courts think of SL. </p>
<p>Enjoy.</p>
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		<title>By: Darkwolf Randt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Darkwolf Randt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Dec 2009 16:23:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Its all to easy to forget that some groups, especially those running full rp sims, that they do infact make an effort to at least provide a decent and authentic experience, more often than not, such groups have privately owned parcels or sims, in which they have the power to deal with a residents needs, not every department you see on sl is something run by people who have zero idea of what they are doing, SL, believe it or not, does have some professionals within this metaverse
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its all to easy to forget that some groups, especially those running full rp sims, that they do infact make an effort to at least provide a decent and authentic experience, more often than not, such groups have privately owned parcels or sims, in which they have the power to deal with a residents needs, not every department you see on sl is something run by people who have zero idea of what they are doing, SL, believe it or not, does have some professionals within this metaverse</p>
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		<title>By: Hope McAlpine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hope McAlpine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Aug 2009 23:06:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok. Well. I certainly hope all this venting will do  your a world good of therapies. You defy every logical reasons I can bring up and simply too blind in rage. You are being too busy venting and there isn&#039;t anything I can do about it. This is just what you may need... some therapy sessions in this place. Good luck in finding peace within yourself. Doubt you will find it though.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok. Well. I certainly hope all this venting will do  your a world good of therapies. You defy every logical reasons I can bring up and simply too blind in rage. You are being too busy venting and there isn&#8217;t anything I can do about it. This is just what you may need&#8230; some therapy sessions in this place. Good luck in finding peace within yourself. Doubt you will find it though.</p>
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		<title>By: The High Evolutionairess</title>
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		<dc:creator>The High Evolutionairess</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Feb 2009 23:22:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is absolutely nothing a superhero or police group can do in sl that any other every day citizen can&#039;t. But what some of these groups do offer is something that fills the void as very much a neighborhood watch.

I see many postings above that list police and superhero groups together as assuming and portraying authority that is not granted them by the TOS or CS, however I really feel that these types of groups are seperate and distinct in portraying the level of authority they really possess.

A Police group is an analog to real life law enforcement &#039;ported to the virtual world of SL. Someone out there wearing an approximation of a rl police uniform, gun badge, etc, is clearly drawing a parallel and that may lead to problems simply by the inference of users that if they see a uniform they regularly see or a close approximation therof from RL, they might be logically sanctioned to do so. Though conversation likely will clear out the misconception of this assumption, assuming a citizen feels comfortable enough to get clarification.

A Superhero group on the other hand, by definition of the genre, pre-supposes that they are not analogous to law enforcement. They are neither elected nor put in power by the owners of the virtual world, nor are they an analogous &#039;port of any Real Life law enforcement agency. It should be abundantly clear that if you&#039;re a superhero, you are either acting alone or in association with other superhero&#039;s to pick up the slack where law enforcement of any type leaves off.

So I would have to point out that at least with the superhero groups, there is no possible way to imply that they have been put in charge by any authority other than their own need to help out where they see some area not covered.

Now, that said, it is an important fact to consider that love or hate these PD or Superhero groups, more often than not, when trouble comes, citizens make the call to one or both types of organizations for assistance. No one has forced them to do so and this clearly denotes a need.

The larger questions that few are discussing that can therefore be inferred from these actions is; Is the G-team not large enough to effectively deal with the policing task of SL? Would expanding their size be cost prohibitive? If so, would they be empowered to deputize citizens or groups to aid them?

Or, even more largely thinking, since the grid is growing and becoming more difficult to police or gain assistance form Linden staff, at what point is an inworld governmental authority/council going to be demanded by the citizens, and when/if that happens, what will be the scope of their mandate, what powers will they demand over their world from Linden Lab and what agency(ies) will they choose to enforce the generally accepted rules put forward by that authority/council? And finally what tools will be at their disposal to do so?




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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is absolutely nothing a superhero or police group can do in sl that any other every day citizen can&#8217;t. But what some of these groups do offer is something that fills the void as very much a neighborhood watch.</p>
<p>I see many postings above that list police and superhero groups together as assuming and portraying authority that is not granted them by the TOS or CS, however I really feel that these types of groups are seperate and distinct in portraying the level of authority they really possess.</p>
<p>A Police group is an analog to real life law enforcement &#8216;ported to the virtual world of SL. Someone out there wearing an approximation of a rl police uniform, gun badge, etc, is clearly drawing a parallel and that may lead to problems simply by the inference of users that if they see a uniform they regularly see or a close approximation therof from RL, they might be logically sanctioned to do so. Though conversation likely will clear out the misconception of this assumption, assuming a citizen feels comfortable enough to get clarification.</p>
<p>A Superhero group on the other hand, by definition of the genre, pre-supposes that they are not analogous to law enforcement. They are neither elected nor put in power by the owners of the virtual world, nor are they an analogous &#8216;port of any Real Life law enforcement agency. It should be abundantly clear that if you&#8217;re a superhero, you are either acting alone or in association with other superhero&#8217;s to pick up the slack where law enforcement of any type leaves off.</p>
<p>So I would have to point out that at least with the superhero groups, there is no possible way to imply that they have been put in charge by any authority other than their own need to help out where they see some area not covered.</p>
<p>Now, that said, it is an important fact to consider that love or hate these PD or Superhero groups, more often than not, when trouble comes, citizens make the call to one or both types of organizations for assistance. No one has forced them to do so and this clearly denotes a need.</p>
<p>The larger questions that few are discussing that can therefore be inferred from these actions is; Is the G-team not large enough to effectively deal with the policing task of SL? Would expanding their size be cost prohibitive? If so, would they be empowered to deputize citizens or groups to aid them?</p>
<p>Or, even more largely thinking, since the grid is growing and becoming more difficult to police or gain assistance form Linden staff, at what point is an inworld governmental authority/council going to be demanded by the citizens, and when/if that happens, what will be the scope of their mandate, what powers will they demand over their world from Linden Lab and what agency(ies) will they choose to enforce the generally accepted rules put forward by that authority/council? And finally what tools will be at their disposal to do so?</p>
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		<title>By: Marine Sniper</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marine Sniper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2009 14:10:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I smell Pork Products!!! Or could that be Linden Products!!!!
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		<title>By: derp</title>
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		<dc:creator>derp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2009 20:31:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lol, I was banned for standing in a sandbox the PN were griefing while I waited for LL to follow up on the ARs I filed.  Fuck LL, I hope they go broke.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lol, I was banned for standing in a sandbox the PN were griefing while I waited for LL to follow up on the ARs I filed.  Fuck LL, I hope they go broke.</p>
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		<title>By: Neo Citizen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Neo Citizen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 14:47:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, please, again with the JLU butthurting.

The last time anybody remembers them doing anything like that was early in 2007, by one guy who got thrown out by the JLU over a year and a half ago, and you&#039;re still trying to build that up into a scandal??  &quot;Anonymous&quot;?  It&#039;s gotta be Int again, nobody else has an axe to grind like that.  I mean, you have to admit, given the reputation of the JLU lately, you sound pretty fucking stupid.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, please, again with the JLU butthurting.</p>
<p>The last time anybody remembers them doing anything like that was early in 2007, by one guy who got thrown out by the JLU over a year and a half ago, and you&#8217;re still trying to build that up into a scandal??  &#8220;Anonymous&#8221;?  It&#8217;s gotta be Int again, nobody else has an axe to grind like that.  I mean, you have to admit, given the reputation of the JLU lately, you sound pretty fucking stupid.</p>
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		<title>By: Witness X</title>
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		<dc:creator>Witness X</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 14:33:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pretty transparently IntLibber post here.  Almost completely uninformed and simply and provably wrong on every statement, and his knickers all atwist because he keeps getting nailed.  Boo hoo.

&lt;insert sound of world&#039;s smallest violin&gt;

Pro-tip: Nobody could do a thing to you, IntLibber, if the Linden Lab database didn&#039;t prove out everything you&#039;re accused of doing.  The Lindens don&#039;t act without that proof, so nobody can just make shit up and make it stick.  Unless they bribe Lindens, or they throw tons of money at them so they can keep them on a short leash like you seem to be doing.  Spending all your time accusing other people of doing what you yourself are most guilty of is pretty pathetic, really.  Aren&#039;t you even the slightest bit embarrassed to be you?


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pretty transparently IntLibber post here.  Almost completely uninformed and simply and provably wrong on every statement, and his knickers all atwist because he keeps getting nailed.  Boo hoo.</p>
<p><insert sound of world's smallest violin></p>
<p>Pro-tip: Nobody could do a thing to you, IntLibber, if the Linden Lab database didn&#8217;t prove out everything you&#8217;re accused of doing.  The Lindens don&#8217;t act without that proof, so nobody can just make shit up and make it stick.  Unless they bribe Lindens, or they throw tons of money at them so they can keep them on a short leash like you seem to be doing.  Spending all your time accusing other people of doing what you yourself are most guilty of is pretty pathetic, really.  Aren&#8217;t you even the slightest bit embarrassed to be you?</insert></p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jan 2009 05:27:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with prok to some extent, but as Alyx pointed out, I have to laugh. You fleece newbies just how this self-appointed &quot;police&quot; person is. You prey on people who realize they don&#039;t have to pay insane fees to live on some &quot;pretty&quot; land where they cant do anything. I see this as jealousy. Though yes, I don&#039;t like the idea of people who see themselves as some high authority going around on any land I own, telling me they&#039;re going to patrol it and there isnt shit I can do against it. (The JLU works this way, indirectly, as they dont tell you that you cant do anything about it, they just go after you for blocking them out. You become fair  game to them)

These are the kind of people who brown nosed the teachers in elementary school and tattled on everyone in sight, to the point where they start making up things to get people they don&#039;t like in trouble. It applies here. Though naturally most people who play SL have maturity levels like this. JLU, GLC, SLPD, RLC, and any other fucktarded RP police group that roams SL needs to get the fuck out. There&#039;s zero accountability, and in most cases, these groups just go by &quot;that person looks shady, let&#039;s get them banned&quot;.

or they get rubbed the wrong way by someone who doesn&#039;t want their &quot;services&quot; and they go on a mission to discredit and ruin that person and get them kicked out of SL.


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with prok to some extent, but as Alyx pointed out, I have to laugh. You fleece newbies just how this self-appointed &#8220;police&#8221; person is. You prey on people who realize they don&#8217;t have to pay insane fees to live on some &#8220;pretty&#8221; land where they cant do anything. I see this as jealousy. Though yes, I don&#8217;t like the idea of people who see themselves as some high authority going around on any land I own, telling me they&#8217;re going to patrol it and there isnt shit I can do against it. (The JLU works this way, indirectly, as they dont tell you that you cant do anything about it, they just go after you for blocking them out. You become fair  game to them)</p>
<p>These are the kind of people who brown nosed the teachers in elementary school and tattled on everyone in sight, to the point where they start making up things to get people they don&#8217;t like in trouble. It applies here. Though naturally most people who play SL have maturity levels like this. JLU, GLC, SLPD, RLC, and any other fucktarded RP police group that roams SL needs to get the fuck out. There&#8217;s zero accountability, and in most cases, these groups just go by &#8220;that person looks shady, let&#8217;s get them banned&#8221;.</p>
<p>or they get rubbed the wrong way by someone who doesn&#8217;t want their &#8220;services&#8221; and they go on a mission to discredit and ruin that person and get them kicked out of SL.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jan 2009 05:13:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HER FACE IS TOO SMALL FOR HER HEAD WHAT THE FUCK.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HER FACE IS TOO SMALL FOR HER HEAD WHAT THE FUCK.</p>
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