Comments on: Linden Lab Learns From Frank Lucas http://alphavilleherald.com/2009/01/linden-lab-learns-from-frank-lucas.html Always Fairly Unbalanced Tue, 04 Oct 2016 13:18:56 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1 By: Not Loki Ball http://alphavilleherald.com/2009/01/linden-lab-learns-from-frank-lucas.html/comment-page-1#comment-7043 Not Loki Ball Fri, 30 Jan 2009 03:39:20 +0000 http://localhost/wp_2/?p=429#comment-7043 I kinda agree with the colorful opinion LOL gave.. Although I wouldn't say it as they did. I was treated to my own gas shower after having a conflict of opinions with a couple of the main staff there. Apotheus not being one of them. In his defense he was always pretty upfront and professional with me. The other two ran the place like a couple highschoolers who ran the popularity club or something. They definitely seemed to have a niche of people they allowed to say whatever they wanted to and slapped the wrist of others for the smallest of things. I could go on for hours but my opinion about it is this.. I think it can be a good idea for the merger to take place. LL can jump in there and take control and put some uniformity to the TOS and handling people who are out of line. I really think its in bad taste to continue the bans made on people from the forums that stopped their ability to sell on the site. Basically because there were a few people who had no affiliation with SL at the time, and were merely members. They banned me and now I will not be able to take part in this new service from Linden Labs. Let alone compete fairly in the future if they decide to integrate into in-world search, and other open grids. Hopefully LL re-evaluates making some of these folks lindens. Its apparent they can't handle their own actions appropriately. Any staff member that divulges peoples personal comments made in private with the rest of the community, conducts themselves by insulting its members and just carpet banning people based on opinion and not TOS should never be considered to work at LL. I kinda agree with the colorful opinion LOL gave.. Although I wouldn’t say it as they did. I was treated to my own gas shower after having a conflict of opinions with a couple of the main staff there. Apotheus not being one of them. In his defense he was always pretty upfront and professional with me. The other two ran the place like a couple highschoolers who ran the popularity club or something. They definitely seemed to have a niche of people they allowed to say whatever they wanted to and slapped the wrist of others for the smallest of things. I could go on for hours but my opinion about it is this.. I think it can be a good idea for the merger to take place. LL can jump in there and take control and put some uniformity to the TOS and handling people who are out of line. I really think its in bad taste to continue the bans made on people from the forums that stopped their ability to sell on the site. Basically because there were a few people who had no affiliation with SL at the time, and were merely members. They banned me and now I will not be able to take part in this new service from Linden Labs. Let alone compete fairly in the future if they decide to integrate into in-world search, and other open grids. Hopefully LL re-evaluates making some of these folks lindens. Its apparent they can’t handle their own actions appropriately. Any staff member that divulges peoples personal comments made in private with the rest of the community, conducts themselves by insulting its members and just carpet banning people based on opinion and not TOS should never be considered to work at LL.

]]> By: LOL http://alphavilleherald.com/2009/01/linden-lab-learns-from-frank-lucas.html/comment-page-1#comment-7042 LOL Sun, 25 Jan 2009 20:05:26 +0000 http://localhost/wp_2/?p=429#comment-7042 First off the staff of SLX\XstreetSL are a bunch of fucking Nazis. Tigress Stormwood Runs that site like a concentration camp, Apotheus and her are basicly the gastapo and SS all rolled into one. It seriously scares me to think they are now Lindens. They choose what business gets to survive this massive round up of all the web based retailers. Alot of retailers fled thier facist dictatorship for the promise of Freedom at Onrez, now like Linden Lab is acting just like the french, Round up all the retailers, and send them back to XstreetSL (the reich) so they can take thier $ and posessions. The SS storm-troopers (FurFag lindens) are also killing anyone that stands in thier way (onrez) offering a way to freedom from the clutches of the nazi regime. Onrez is so much better in so many ways then XstreetSL. It actually works, is VERY user friendy, has Vendors that are free and work even if the SL E-mail server does not. By far the best thing is Onrez is not greedy, they do not take a % of any sales. Lets face it, thats what this boild down to, Linden Lab is so hurting for $ at this point they want to steal your creations rip the gold fillings out of it's merchants teeth to fuel thier virtual war machien. I know for a fact they will turn that once "FREE SPEACH FORUM" found on XstreetSL into a rally of book burning hitler youth. the XstreetSL staff will tell the residents what is OK to read, say, think, and post. Effectivly turning a group of once free thinking residents into nothing more then Hitler youth. If you are lucky enough to survive the Death camp and extermination of ONREZ then good luck rebuilding your web based business! Lastly, @ Tigress Stromwood SUCK A FART OUT OF MY ASS YOU COCK JUGGLING UBER THUNDER CUNT! First off the staff of SLX\XstreetSL are a bunch of fucking Nazis. Tigress Stormwood Runs that site like a concentration camp, Apotheus and her are basicly the gastapo and SS all rolled into one. It seriously scares me to think they are now Lindens. They choose what business gets to survive this massive round up of all the web based retailers. Alot of retailers fled thier facist dictatorship for the promise of Freedom at Onrez, now like Linden Lab is acting just like the french, Round up all the retailers, and send them back to XstreetSL (the reich) so they can take thier $ and posessions.

The SS storm-troopers (FurFag lindens) are also killing anyone that stands in thier way (onrez) offering a way to freedom from the clutches of the nazi regime. Onrez is so much better in so many ways then XstreetSL. It actually works, is VERY user friendy, has Vendors that are free and work even if the SL E-mail server does not. By far the best thing is Onrez is not greedy, they do not take a % of any sales. Lets face it, thats what this boild down to, Linden Lab is so hurting for $ at this point they want to steal your creations rip the gold fillings out of it’s merchants teeth to fuel thier virtual war machien.

I know for a fact they will turn that once “FREE SPEACH FORUM” found on XstreetSL into a rally of book burning hitler youth. the XstreetSL staff will tell the residents what is OK to read, say, think, and post. Effectivly turning a group of once free thinking residents into nothing more then Hitler youth.

If you are lucky enough to survive the Death camp and extermination of ONREZ then good luck rebuilding your web based business!

Lastly, @ Tigress Stromwood

SUCK A FART OUT OF MY ASS YOU COCK JUGGLING UBER THUNDER CUNT!

]]> By: JustMe http://alphavilleherald.com/2009/01/linden-lab-learns-from-frank-lucas.html/comment-page-1#comment-7041 JustMe Sun, 25 Jan 2009 18:21:53 +0000 http://localhost/wp_2/?p=429#comment-7041 In world, businesses rent mall space from land owners or buy land for stores and LL gets the land tiers, regardless of the profitability of the store. With this purchase of the webbased SL item sales channel, LL will get a percentage of each and every sale that's made. I can see ......... eventually .... that LL will eliminate all in world sales .. no more shops or malls, in other words ... and shift the sales systems to their newly purchased webbased system, thus gaining a percentage of EVERY item sold by one avatar to another in SL. This would more than make up for lost tier L$ . Also, it would also allow LL to reduce the number of sims they need to support (less hardware needed at LL) without affecting the rest of SL ... homes, resorts, roleplay areas, clubs, etc. In other words, inworld could become residential and entertainment while the webbased system would become the sales channel. Nice move, LL .... you've inserted yourself into the revenue stream to take a cut, eliminated a Lindex competitor, and simplified your systems as well.! In world, businesses rent mall space from land owners or buy land for stores and LL gets the land tiers, regardless of the profitability of the store. With this purchase of the webbased SL item sales channel, LL will get a percentage of each and every sale that’s made.

I can see ……… eventually …. that LL will eliminate all in world sales .. no more shops or malls, in other words … and shift the sales systems to their newly purchased webbased system, thus gaining a percentage of EVERY item sold by one avatar to another in SL. This would more than make up for lost tier L$ .

Also, it would also allow LL to reduce the number of sims they need to support (less hardware needed at LL) without affecting the rest of SL … homes, resorts, roleplay areas, clubs, etc.

In other words, inworld could become residential and entertainment while the webbased system would become the sales channel. Nice move, LL …. you’ve inserted yourself into the revenue stream to take a cut, eliminated a Lindex competitor, and simplified your systems as well.!

]]> By: Jessica Holyoke http://alphavilleherald.com/2009/01/linden-lab-learns-from-frank-lucas.html/comment-page-1#comment-7040 Jessica Holyoke Sun, 25 Jan 2009 10:28:13 +0000 http://localhost/wp_2/?p=429#comment-7040 Dell, If the Lab wishes to stabilize commerce in SL, they don't have to regulate it, or buy web based providers to integrate them into the client code. They just need to be sure that people can pay for goods and services. Meaning people have to be able to log in and have transactions executed. How many times have residents been warned that if SL is buggy, your items will not be delivered for up to 15 minutes, and sometimes aren't even then, if you can get on and find the items you are looking for? And what's the point of buying anything off of the web for SL if I can't get into my account to use the item? The Lab should not be in the e-commerce business if they want to be the common carrier of the future. If that has changed and they want to be like Blizzard, then they need to be open about that. I tend to agree with the notion that the currency exchanges were why the two products were purchased and the Lab didn't want to do anything that would migrate people to providers other than the LindeX. Dell,

If the Lab wishes to stabilize commerce in SL, they don’t have to regulate it, or buy web based providers to integrate them into the client code. They just need to be sure that people can pay for goods and services. Meaning people have to be able to log in and have transactions executed. How many times have residents been warned that if SL is buggy, your items will not be delivered for up to 15 minutes, and sometimes aren’t even then, if you can get on and find the items you are looking for? And what’s the point of buying anything off of the web for SL if I can’t get into my account to use the item?

The Lab should not be in the e-commerce business if they want to be the common carrier of the future. If that has changed and they want to be like Blizzard, then they need to be open about that.

I tend to agree with the notion that the currency exchanges were why the two products were purchased and the Lab didn’t want to do anything that would migrate people to providers other than the LindeX.

]]> By: Dell Wilberg http://alphavilleherald.com/2009/01/linden-lab-learns-from-frank-lucas.html/comment-page-1#comment-7039 Dell Wilberg Sat, 24 Jan 2009 20:52:49 +0000 http://localhost/wp_2/?p=429#comment-7039 It remains to be seen what new policies will be put in place on SLX. In the new age of Virtual Worlds it should come as no surprise that the Creators (In this Case LL) should desire to own the primary third party portal for commerce. What concerns me more is possible censorship of content. On of the key advantages of SLX was it's separation from LL. What happened to the possible promise of an OpenSource server from LL? There is great opportunity for a group of people who provide what LL is unwilling to provide as long as they can maintain or surpass the quality. I guess they looked at the model of Apple computer and the iPhone/App Store and said "Hey, we need to emulate what they have done and make a percentage of all third party content sales". The biggest complaint you hear from iPhone App developers is that Apple approves products based on some arcane decision making process about what is in the best interest of Apple and it's customers. It appears the free thinking "Wild West" days are soon to be over for the Second Life platform. On the positive side maybe they want to regulate markets to ensure a stable environment for commerce. Let's wait and see how this is positioned by LL before we disparage their motives. Signed: Hopeful but with eyes wide open... It remains to be seen what new policies will be put in place on SLX. In the new age of Virtual Worlds it should come as no surprise that the Creators (In this Case LL) should desire to own the primary third party portal for commerce.

What concerns me more is possible censorship of content. On of the key advantages of SLX was it’s separation from LL.

What happened to the possible promise of an OpenSource server from LL? There is great opportunity for a group of people who provide what LL is unwilling to provide as long as they can maintain or surpass the quality.

I guess they looked at the model of Apple computer and the iPhone/App Store and said “Hey, we need to emulate what they have done and make a percentage of all third party content sales”.

The biggest complaint you hear from iPhone App developers is that Apple approves products based on some arcane decision making process about what is in the best interest of Apple and it’s customers.

It appears the free thinking “Wild West” days are soon to be over for the Second Life platform.

On the positive side maybe they want to regulate markets to ensure a stable environment for commerce. Let’s wait and see how this is positioned by LL before we disparage their motives.

Signed: Hopeful but with eyes wide open…

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]]> By: lol http://alphavilleherald.com/2009/01/linden-lab-learns-from-frank-lucas.html/comment-page-1#comment-7037 lol Sat, 24 Jan 2009 19:51:14 +0000 http://localhost/wp_2/?p=429#comment-7037 Apparently you just saw American Gangster for the first time. Congratulations. Is it just me, or is "Pixeleen" like the only person out there that somehow managed to draw absurd parallels between Linden Lab and the mob? Don't quit your day job, sweetie. Apparently you just saw American Gangster for the first time. Congratulations.

Is it just me, or is “Pixeleen” like the only person out there that somehow managed to draw absurd parallels between Linden Lab and the mob? Don’t quit your day job, sweetie.

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