Comments on: Open Sims – Back to the Brave New World http://alphavilleherald.com/2009/01/open-sims-back-to-the-brave-new-world.html Always Fairly Unbalanced Tue, 04 Oct 2016 13:18:56 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1 By: Alyx Stoklitsky http://alphavilleherald.com/2009/01/open-sims-back-to-the-brave-new-world.html/comment-page-1#comment-6950 Alyx Stoklitsky Sat, 31 Jan 2009 15:59:18 +0000 http://localhost/wp_2/?p=424#comment-6950 @Prok: "megaprims used to lag and grief, and other forms of griefing." Yeah, because that's really the primary function of megaprims, right? Protip: They're invaluable for *building* things with - I've built many things that aren't even possible without them. Also, you may like the Dale glass client, considering what a grumpy old bitch you are. @Prok: “megaprims used to lag and grief, and other forms of griefing.”

Yeah, because that’s really the primary function of megaprims, right? Protip: They’re invaluable for *building* things with – I’ve built many things that aren’t even possible without them.

Also, you may like the Dale glass client, considering what a grumpy old bitch you are.

]]> By: dandellion Kimban http://alphavilleherald.com/2009/01/open-sims-back-to-the-brave-new-world.html/comment-page-1#comment-6949 dandellion Kimban Sat, 31 Jan 2009 14:51:32 +0000 http://localhost/wp_2/?p=424#comment-6949 Prokofy always does an excellent job of displaying lack of logical thinking and whines in the hope that idiots like he will listen to his paranoia- Typical product of political brainwashing. Prokofy always does an excellent job of displaying lack of logical thinking and whines in the hope that idiots like he will listen to his paranoia- Typical product of political brainwashing.

]]> By: Melissa Yeuxdoux http://alphavilleherald.com/2009/01/open-sims-back-to-the-brave-new-world.html/comment-page-1#comment-6948 Melissa Yeuxdoux Fri, 30 Jan 2009 21:32:56 +0000 http://localhost/wp_2/?p=424#comment-6948 Prokofy always does an excellent job of displaying total ignorance when it comes to software. I recommend Gwyneth Llewelyn's blog posts "Open Simulator: the choice for 2010" and "The Battle for the Desktop Begins" to any wishing to learn more about the advantages of OpenSim. Prokofy always does an excellent job of displaying total ignorance when it comes to software.

I recommend Gwyneth Llewelyn’s blog posts “Open Simulator: the choice for 2010″ and “The Battle for the Desktop Begins” to any wishing to learn more about the advantages of OpenSim.

]]> By: Melissa Yeuxdoux http://alphavilleherald.com/2009/01/open-sims-back-to-the-brave-new-world.html/comment-page-1#comment-6947 Melissa Yeuxdoux Fri, 30 Jan 2009 21:32:44 +0000 http://localhost/wp_2/?p=424#comment-6947 Prokofy always does an excellent job of displaying total ignorance when it comes to software. I recommend Gwyneth Llewelyn's blog posts "Open Simulator: the choice for 2010" and "The Battle for the Desktop Begins" to any wishing to learn more about the advantages of OpenSim. Prokofy always does an excellent job of displaying total ignorance when it comes to software.

I recommend Gwyneth Llewelyn’s blog posts “Open Simulator: the choice for 2010″ and “The Battle for the Desktop Begins” to any wishing to learn more about the advantages of OpenSim.

]]> By: janeforyou Barbara http://alphavilleherald.com/2009/01/open-sims-back-to-the-brave-new-world.html/comment-page-1#comment-6946 janeforyou Barbara Fri, 30 Jan 2009 09:52:15 +0000 http://localhost/wp_2/?p=424#comment-6946 Open SIMs/Grid/Source/Code are confusing for the mainstream user. Btw you cant TP from it to SL.. thats why it wil be hard for me as i invested a lot in SL. Open SIMs/Grid/Source/Code are confusing for the mainstream user.
Btw you cant TP from it to SL.. thats why it wil be hard for me as i invested a lot in SL.

]]> By: Prokofy Neva http://alphavilleherald.com/2009/01/open-sims-back-to-the-brave-new-world.html/comment-page-1#comment-6945 Prokofy Neva Fri, 30 Jan 2009 05:07:02 +0000 http://localhost/wp_2/?p=424#comment-6945 >However, the whole point of open source is that you get to read the code and see whether it's doing something nasty or not. Which puts you out of luck if you don't happen to be able to read, understand and compile code yourself like I can, so I can understand your reticence. It's a lot easier for me to trust it, because I can see for myself. Most can't. Like I always say: "Open Source=Closed Society of Coders". Thanks for reconfirming! >However, the whole point of open source is that you get to read the code and see whether it’s doing something nasty or not. Which puts you out of luck if you don’t happen to be able to read, understand and compile code yourself like I can, so I can understand your reticence. It’s a lot easier for me to trust it, because I can see for myself. Most can’t.

Like I always say: “Open Source=Closed Society of Coders”.

Thanks for reconfirming!

]]> By: ichabod Antfarm http://alphavilleherald.com/2009/01/open-sims-back-to-the-brave-new-world.html/comment-page-1#comment-6944 ichabod Antfarm Fri, 30 Jan 2009 00:59:51 +0000 http://localhost/wp_2/?p=424#comment-6944 Neo, what I said was "Oh sure, it works now and then but the idea that open source is always already "secure" and "developed faster" is a religious doctrine". So, yes, it does work now and then. I bet there are a few thousand(s) bugs in DB2 that might be corrected by open sourcing it but what I was referring to was the automatic, non-falsifiable assertion that open source software is ALWAYS more secure, ALWAYS developed faster, ALWAYS better. Open Source is, at the very least, a methodology, a practise. I cannot think of any serious developer who advocates for the "one true way" when it comes to methodologies. There is no Universal Widget (unless there is (in which case (I stand corrected)) Lisp (was never my strong suit)) (can't you tell)? As for "evil code", 'while(i != 666)' is evil and I am sure you know why (i, btw, is any integral on a modern machine) Neo, what I said was “Oh sure, it works now and then but the idea that open source is always already “secure” and “developed faster” is a religious doctrine”. So, yes, it does work now and then. I bet there are a few thousand(s) bugs in DB2 that might be corrected by open sourcing it but what I was referring to was the automatic, non-falsifiable assertion that open source software is ALWAYS more secure, ALWAYS developed faster, ALWAYS better. Open Source is, at the very least, a methodology, a practise. I cannot think of any serious developer who advocates for the “one true way” when it comes to methodologies. There is no Universal Widget (unless there is (in which case (I stand corrected)) Lisp (was never my strong suit)) (can’t you tell)?

As for “evil code”, ‘while(i != 666)’ is evil and I am sure you know why (i, btw, is any integral on a modern machine)

]]> By: Owen Oyen http://alphavilleherald.com/2009/01/open-sims-back-to-the-brave-new-world.html/comment-page-1#comment-6943 Owen Oyen Thu, 29 Jan 2009 23:16:10 +0000 http://localhost/wp_2/?p=424#comment-6943 I build a somewhat popular racing yacht in SL. I have built a functioning sailboat in OSGrid (which is essentially the same as Open Life, using the same server software.) The boat uses llMessageLinked. It does work and has worked for many months now. OSGrid is doing a birthday thing this weekend for Open Sims in general. OSGrid also has a number of hyper portals for teleporting from grid to grid -- where a grid is defined as a collection of sims/regions. Open Life is a grid unto its own. So is OSGrid. Univ of California Irvine has spearheaded the hypergrid effort and it is now functional. OSGrid is now about 3000 regions including a huge swath of sims devoted to virtual sailing. Avatar editing is fully available there. As are enough functions to generate a sailable sailboat equipped with apparent wind and wind shadow. I build a somewhat popular racing yacht in SL.

I have built a functioning sailboat in OSGrid (which is essentially the same as Open Life, using the same server software.)

The boat uses llMessageLinked. It does work and has worked for many months now.

OSGrid is doing a birthday thing this weekend for Open Sims in general. OSGrid also has a number of hyper portals for teleporting from grid to grid — where a grid is defined as a collection of sims/regions. Open Life is a grid unto its own. So is OSGrid. Univ of California Irvine has spearheaded the hypergrid effort and it is now functional.

OSGrid is now about 3000 regions including a huge swath of sims devoted to virtual sailing.

Avatar editing is fully available there. As are enough functions to generate a sailable sailboat equipped with apparent wind and wind shadow.

]]> By: Dr. Moreau http://alphavilleherald.com/2009/01/open-sims-back-to-the-brave-new-world.html/comment-page-1#comment-6942 Dr. Moreau Thu, 29 Jan 2009 21:22:01 +0000 http://localhost/wp_2/?p=424#comment-6942 @Orion--I will do just that and visit some other Open Sims. And my remarks were aimed the well-intentioned lagfest called OpenLife, in any case...so other grids cannot be worse than being a cloud. Hypergrid sounds worthwhile, though not with an avatar whose inventory I value. But that's what alts are for: the lab-rats of the metaverses. I'm sorry, Ichabod. "Cha-cha bingos" truly was an inappropriate term and I let it drip from my fingers in a moment of drunken weakness. In this case, "Lefty and Smiley" do capture a certain "Come in, Tokyo!" quality (work your hands like you are tuning radio dials and say the words like a Japanese submariner in the movie "1941"). But I'm a simple man: I'll agree to settle for the more politically correct term: "Pontoons." She'd float for months with those. @Orion–I will do just that and visit some other Open Sims. And my remarks were aimed the well-intentioned lagfest called OpenLife, in any case…so other grids cannot be worse than being a cloud. Hypergrid sounds worthwhile, though not with an avatar whose inventory I value. But that’s what alts are for: the lab-rats of the metaverses.

I’m sorry, Ichabod. “Cha-cha bingos” truly was an inappropriate term and I let it drip from my fingers in a moment of drunken weakness.

In this case, “Lefty and Smiley” do capture a certain “Come in, Tokyo!” quality (work your hands like you are tuning radio dials and say the words like a Japanese submariner in the movie “1941″).

But I’m a simple man: I’ll agree to settle for the more politically correct term: “Pontoons.” She’d float for months with those.

]]> By: Orion Pseudo http://alphavilleherald.com/2009/01/open-sims-back-to-the-brave-new-world.html/comment-page-1#comment-6941 Orion Pseudo Thu, 29 Jan 2009 15:37:09 +0000 http://localhost/wp_2/?p=424#comment-6941 Umm, OpenLife is something like a few light years behind the normal variation of OpenSim! Long ago they decided for whatever reason to split off from the main OpenSim project to make their own variation based on it. This means that all the newer things like link messages, etc. are missing from their setup. Instead of basing your conclusion of an entire technology on your visit to just one company that's running it (and rather badly so from what I hear) why not try a few others to see how they work? There are tons of them out there at varying levels of stability and completion and even some that link to one another with a mechanism called HyperGrid which allows you to teleport with inventory from one grid to another. Do us all a favor, take a look at http://opensimulator.org/wiki/Grid_List and try a few of the other grids before you go off on some narrow minded tangent declaring a royal thumbs down? And please do remember, OpenSim is now only two years old and is a ground up rebuild of the SL server. How stable do you think LL's grid was after only two years of development back before it even hit the beta stage? Umm, OpenLife is something like a few light years behind the normal variation of OpenSim! Long ago they decided for whatever reason to split off from the main OpenSim project to make their own variation based on it. This means that all the newer things like link messages, etc. are missing from their setup.

Instead of basing your conclusion of an entire technology on your visit to just one company that’s running it (and rather badly so from what I hear) why not try a few others to see how they work? There are tons of them out there at varying levels of stability and completion and even some that link to one another with a mechanism called HyperGrid which allows you to teleport with inventory from one grid to another.

Do us all a favor, take a look at http://opensimulator.org/wiki/Grid_List and try a few of the other grids before you go off on some narrow minded tangent declaring a royal thumbs down? And please do remember, OpenSim is now only two years old and is a ground up rebuild of the SL server. How stable do you think LL’s grid was after only two years of development back before it even hit the beta stage?

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