Comments on: Stroker Serpentine Slams Linden Lab for Sexbed Blacklist

By: Bahi

Bahi — Fri, 23 Apr 2010 09:54:11 +0000

I know this question comes a long time after anyone spoke here but I’m having a hard time understanding why offering a fix to any product that is broken or has a problem on Xstreet has an adverse effect on a business or person’s reputation.
If anything I think the opposite would be the case.

Could you explain for me why you feel it would have a negative effect?

By: At0m0 Beerbaum

At0m0 Beerbaum — Fri, 05 Jun 2009 03:22:09 +0000

“Sorry honey I cant get it up today, my penis is blacklisted”

By: Stroker Serpentine

Stroker Serpentine — Thu, 04 Jun 2009 21:56:18 +0000

@ General Drama: Unfortunately there are well documented cases of impropriety and collusion between Residents and Lindens. I am by no means suggesting that is the case here. However, AT MINIMUM there should be an investigation and some form of followup. Compensation notwithstanding. It’s human nature to demand a head to roll in a situation like this. I take a lot of the blame on myself for the time and financial investment I have made in good faith. But, then again, I will not be a victim either. It’s hard not to be disillusioned when many of the icons of SL have closed their doors due to CopyBot, exploits and incompetence. We have all heard the stories. Are we just numb to them now? Where is the accountability? Does a TOS give LL blanket authority to do real life damage? Who?, if anyone, will stand up and say “This isn’t right/fair/conscienable!”??

$450 million and counting.

By: DixonHill

DixonHill — Thu, 04 Jun 2009 10:06:11 +0000

That are exactly the reasons, i will never ever invest much money in SL/openeing a business. LL´s customers have no rights at all, in the end LL controls and owns everything. They can break business with a fingersnip, raise prices as they wish (no serious competions yet on the market)delete your avatar if they like to, or shutdown the grid tommorow. And there is nothing anyone can do about that. It is totally unpredictible what the future brings.

By: General Drama

General Drama — Wed, 03 Jun 2009 21:56:47 +0000

Well, seems to me that the proper place to look is the G-Team F-Troop. See which furry friends of the g-team have come out with businesses to compete with Stroker.

I’ve seen LL insiders delete the parcel UUIDs for major stores that compete against businesses owned by a Linden alt, in order to take the competition out of search. They delete classifieds from your profiles too. They are rigging search so you can’t trust that your ad will be in the same place day after day (like, say, you can with google, even though LL claims they use google algorythms).

By: Stroker Serpentine

Stroker Serpentine — Wed, 03 Jun 2009 12:43:58 +0000

@ DagnyT: You have hit upon the crux of the issue. Accountability.

From the main page of SL: “One of the most exciting aspects of Second Life is its vibrant marketplace for virtual goods and services. Second Life has a fully integrated economy built on the residents’ ability to buy and sell their virtual creations. With nearly USD$35 million traded between residents each month, the Second Life economy has grown to become one of the world’s largest user-generated virtual economies.”

The marketlace is directly tied to LL’s business model of subleasing server space (land). We entrust our time/talent and treasure to their care. I can assure you that there would be rack after rack of idle servers if we did not have the marketplace. No where in the above PR-prose do they mention the risk involved. Sure, there is risk in any business, virtual or tangible.

It is difficult for many of us whom have been on the grid for an amount of time to identify with the new entrepreneur. We are all familiar with the “OMG! I have been the victim of CopyBot!” threads. Many of whom had no concept of what CopyBot even is until they are a victim. The fact of the matter is any such warnings or disclaimers by LL would be detrimental to their business model. Policy changes that have a devistating impact upon businesses are never released as “This is what we are considering…”.

Icompetence notwithstanding.

I personally feel a responsibility to these budding merchants as one who was held up as a “Success Story” in the media, along with many others. Anshe Chung’s “Dreamland Estates” suffered ten’s of thousand’s of dollars in lost revenue and additional time/expense at the hands of the recent “Open Sim” debaucle. Only to have Homesteads button-holed into the mix to the benefit of Linden Lab. I won’t even get into the Adult Content Changes here. Why do you think the shift is towards Education and Research?

One word. Accountability.

By: DagnyT Dagger

DagnyT Dagger — Tue, 02 Jun 2009 08:17:51 +0000

This just supports what I’ve always said. Everything we create in Second Life is there, and available at the will of “The Lab”. They can, with a few clicks of a mouse button, eradicate anything you’ve created – and even you (well, okay, your AV – not YOU you, like the REAL you – I think).

By: janeforyou Barbara

janeforyou Barbara — Mon, 01 Jun 2009 23:50:55 +0000

@ Laid-off GM Employee
Hehe i do make good mony RL..if i dident i wil NEVER afford to risk invest in SL
SL are a hobby to me,, a “escape” Risky yes,,

By: Laid-off GM Employee

Laid-off GM Employee — Mon, 01 Jun 2009 21:46:09 +0000

Hey, instead of making money on virtual goods, you could go to work for a RL company and enjoy security and stability all your live-long-days.

Or maybe the entire debt-based, consumer-dependent economy is about as real as SL. Cheap oil and easy credit and wishful thinking (cue the Horatio Alger song-and-dance) kept the thing stumbling along.

One day it’s all going to go “poof” too…uh, never mind. I think it may be poofing already.

By: janeforyou Barbara

janeforyou Barbara — Mon, 01 Jun 2009 17:17:45 +0000

I got a 10.000 USD invenstment in SL (real mony) Many got more,i pay 15.000 USD a yare in landtiers, i got a staff i pay to work.The cash flow in and out in all the sims and shops and mall are in the millions of L$, i got items that are non copy and that are copy, and i lost lots if items in SL over the last 3 yares, but them losses are not my fault its SL, but Linden Lab are NOT resposible,,even if all i got go away in a snapp Linden Lab got there back coverd. Thay can however do a rollback ( as i had one time) but its not shure i get ALL items back, so there are a HUGE risk and to be in SL you must be willing to take that risk, its like RL.. if your shop burns down and you dont got any inshurance your fecked.The SL inshurance are a Rolleback……..