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	<title>Comments on: Underground in Gor: A Kinder, Gentler Counter-Earth?</title>
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		<title>By: Tristan Belgar</title>
		<link>http://alphavilleherald.com/2009/06/underground-in-gor-a-kinder-gentler-counterearth.html/comment-page-1#comment-4703</link>
		<dc:creator>Tristan Belgar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jun 2009 04:31:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The city notes it is a by-the-book region, but the woman was breaking Gorean rules left and right by speaking to other men and being rather bubbly. Their SL profiles showed that they professed love for each other in terms that would make John Norman squirm&quot;

I&#039;m not sure that a free woman being bubbly and speaking to other men would necessarily contradict the books. A lot of the freewomen in the books are pretty forbidding and aloof, but at least some certainly let their guard down from time to time.

As for profiles, well, they&#039;re OOC. I might have a friend and roleplay partner that I adore when I&#039;m out of character, but we&#039;re horrible to each other when we&#039;re in character. Likewise someone could play a barbaric and cruel Gorean Master, but that&#039;s just their character. That doesn&#039;t mean that they might not fill their profile with lovey-dovey paens to their kajirae.

On &#039;by-the-books&#039; roleplay, there are 27 books full of thousands upon thousands of tiny details. Tolkien&#039;s world is made up of.. what.. 5-6 books? It&#039;s a huge learning curve to try to roleplay Gor close to the books. Huge. Trust me, I&#039;m still learning a lot after years of Gorean roleplay. You&#039;re never going to be perfect, so &#039;by the books&#039; roleplay is more an aspiration than a finished state. If a sim calls themselves &#039;by the books&#039; then it usually just means they&#039;re trying. Hopefully, anyway.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The city notes it is a by-the-book region, but the woman was breaking Gorean rules left and right by speaking to other men and being rather bubbly. Their SL profiles showed that they professed love for each other in terms that would make John Norman squirm&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure that a free woman being bubbly and speaking to other men would necessarily contradict the books. A lot of the freewomen in the books are pretty forbidding and aloof, but at least some certainly let their guard down from time to time.</p>
<p>As for profiles, well, they&#8217;re OOC. I might have a friend and roleplay partner that I adore when I&#8217;m out of character, but we&#8217;re horrible to each other when we&#8217;re in character. Likewise someone could play a barbaric and cruel Gorean Master, but that&#8217;s just their character. That doesn&#8217;t mean that they might not fill their profile with lovey-dovey paens to their kajirae.</p>
<p>On &#8216;by-the-books&#8217; roleplay, there are 27 books full of thousands upon thousands of tiny details. Tolkien&#8217;s world is made up of.. what.. 5-6 books? It&#8217;s a huge learning curve to try to roleplay Gor close to the books. Huge. Trust me, I&#8217;m still learning a lot after years of Gorean roleplay. You&#8217;re never going to be perfect, so &#8216;by the books&#8217; roleplay is more an aspiration than a finished state. If a sim calls themselves &#8216;by the books&#8217; then it usually just means they&#8217;re trying. Hopefully, anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: Maximus Flacidus, Gorean Master</title>
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		<dc:creator>Maximus Flacidus, Gorean Master</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 15:01:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ann just loves to hate SL :)  But I don&#039;t argue with her point that it&#039;s not the world it used to me. Still, the Goreans have a way to go making their own grid:

&lt;a href=&quot;http://thegorgrid.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://thegorgrid.com&lt;/a&gt;

Total users: 747. Total Regions: 69. Unique visitors, Last 30 Days: 266.

Online right now: 2.

Send Mitch Kapor there :D
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ann just loves to hate SL <img src='http://alphavilleherald.com/site/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   But I don&#8217;t argue with her point that it&#8217;s not the world it used to me. Still, the Goreans have a way to go making their own grid:</p>
<p><a href="http://thegorgrid.com" rel="nofollow">http://thegorgrid.com</a></p>
<p>Total users: 747. Total Regions: 69. Unique visitors, Last 30 Days: 266.</p>
<p>Online right now: 2.</p>
<p>Send Mitch Kapor there <img src='http://alphavilleherald.com/site/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Emperor Norton hears a who?</title>
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		<dc:creator>Emperor Norton hears a who?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 14:30:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ann the Tool @ &quot;gor is building gor grid. eventually gor will be a part of past sl history like everything else will be. sl is dying a slow strangulated death at the hands of mitch kapor. kiss it goodbye.&quot;

You can find this post in every forum for every MMO game out there. There must some some standard forum letter &quot;this game is dying because (insert personal agenda here) is broken and is driving people away. The (game developer or corporate CEO) doesn&#039;t care about the player&#039;s&quot;

If SL is dying so what Anne? Someone else will do another game since SL is clearly a successful format. Games are the only way into most people&#039;s wallets these days and they all can&#039;t Word of Warcraft clones.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ann the Tool @ &#8220;gor is building gor grid. eventually gor will be a part of past sl history like everything else will be. sl is dying a slow strangulated death at the hands of mitch kapor. kiss it goodbye.&#8221;</p>
<p>You can find this post in every forum for every MMO game out there. There must some some standard forum letter &#8220;this game is dying because (insert personal agenda here) is broken and is driving people away. The (game developer or corporate CEO) doesn&#8217;t care about the player&#8217;s&#8221;</p>
<p>If SL is dying so what Anne? Someone else will do another game since SL is clearly a successful format. Games are the only way into most people&#8217;s wallets these days and they all can&#8217;t Word of Warcraft clones.</p>
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		<title>By: Ari Blackthorne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ari Blackthorne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 10:11:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@The Wanderer:

&quot;Good players make a game, and in this sim, they are good players who seem to want to craft a world more than play out a bunch of juvenile power-trips.&quot;

EXACTLY.

The claim of &quot;By the book&quot; usually means a good-faith-effort. But it falls apart eventually. I agree it&#039;s about having some FUN. And good players and good story and events and situations are what make that.  :)

I&#039;ll keep looking forward to your stuff.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@The Wanderer:</p>
<p>&#8220;Good players make a game, and in this sim, they are good players who seem to want to craft a world more than play out a bunch of juvenile power-trips.&#8221;</p>
<p>EXACTLY.</p>
<p>The claim of &#8220;By the book&#8221; usually means a good-faith-effort. But it falls apart eventually. I agree it&#8217;s about having some FUN. And good players and good story and events and situations are what make that.  <img src='http://alphavilleherald.com/site/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I&#8217;ll keep looking forward to your stuff.</p>
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		<title>By: Ann Otoole</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ann Otoole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 06:57:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>gor is building gor grid. eventually gor will be a part of past sl history like everything else will be. sl is dying a slow strangulated death at the hands of mitch kapor. kiss it goodbye.
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		<title>By: The Wanderer</title>
		<link>http://alphavilleherald.com/2009/06/underground-in-gor-a-kinder-gentler-counterearth.html/comment-page-1#comment-4698</link>
		<dc:creator>The Wanderer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 16:27:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ari, I heard about &quot;Disney Gor&quot; right away and poked my nose into some groups that are against it.  I also found that the sim where I wrote most of this claims to be &quot;by the book&quot; but doesn&#039;t seem to be, once you scratch the surface.

Good players make a game, and in this sim, they are good players who seem to want to craft a world more than play out a bunch of juvenile power-trips.

Glad you folks enjoyed this. I&#039;ll keep the chapters coming. I have &quot;forest girls&quot; to meet next.  What else should I see/do in SL&#039;s Gorean playgrounds? I&#039;d love to see a sea-battle, even if it gets my avatar killed in nasty ways.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ari, I heard about &#8220;Disney Gor&#8221; right away and poked my nose into some groups that are against it.  I also found that the sim where I wrote most of this claims to be &#8220;by the book&#8221; but doesn&#8217;t seem to be, once you scratch the surface.</p>
<p>Good players make a game, and in this sim, they are good players who seem to want to craft a world more than play out a bunch of juvenile power-trips.</p>
<p>Glad you folks enjoyed this. I&#8217;ll keep the chapters coming. I have &#8220;forest girls&#8221; to meet next.  What else should I see/do in SL&#8217;s Gorean playgrounds? I&#8217;d love to see a sea-battle, even if it gets my avatar killed in nasty ways.</p>
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		<title>By: Ari Blackthorne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ari Blackthorne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 13:56:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;By the book&quot; not &quot;by the book&quot; - doesn&#039;t matter so much.

I&#039;m surprised you haven&#039;t discovered the &quot;Disney Gor&quot; or &quot;not Disney Gor&quot; line in the sand. Looks like you&#039;re finally starting to see the more common side of the Gorean role play in SL.

As for &quot;spirit of the books&quot; - good choice of words. That&#039;s what people who&#039;ve actually read the books look for.

By the way, a &quot;panther&quot; is a four-legged carnivorous feline large enough to rip you to shreds on Gor just like earth. I think you are referring to &quot;Forest girls&quot; a.k.a. &quot;panther girls&quot; (through &#039;girl&#039; at the end of it.)

Calling a panther girl a &quot;panther&quot; is simply falling in with the typical laziness of onlinism ethos and &#039;edumacation&#039;.

Srsly, u know?
yw.

:P

LOL

By the way, I enjoy yor adventure stories - keep &#039;em coming.
And it&#039;s not just that ANYTHING is better than Tenshi&#039;s diatribe. Your stuff is actually fun to read.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;By the book&#8221; not &#8220;by the book&#8221; &#8211; doesn&#8217;t matter so much.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m surprised you haven&#8217;t discovered the &#8220;Disney Gor&#8221; or &#8220;not Disney Gor&#8221; line in the sand. Looks like you&#8217;re finally starting to see the more common side of the Gorean role play in SL.</p>
<p>As for &#8220;spirit of the books&#8221; &#8211; good choice of words. That&#8217;s what people who&#8217;ve actually read the books look for.</p>
<p>By the way, a &#8220;panther&#8221; is a four-legged carnivorous feline large enough to rip you to shreds on Gor just like earth. I think you are referring to &#8220;Forest girls&#8221; a.k.a. &#8220;panther girls&#8221; (through &#8216;girl&#8217; at the end of it.)</p>
<p>Calling a panther girl a &#8220;panther&#8221; is simply falling in with the typical laziness of onlinism ethos and &#8216;edumacation&#8217;.</p>
<p>Srsly, u know?<br />
yw.<br />
 <img src='http://alphavilleherald.com/site/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>LOL</p>
<p>By the way, I enjoy yor adventure stories &#8211; keep &#8216;em coming.<br />
And it&#8217;s not just that ANYTHING is better than Tenshi&#8217;s diatribe. Your stuff is actually fun to read.</p>
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		<title>By: Emperor Norton Hears a who?</title>
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		<dc:creator>Emperor Norton Hears a who?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 12:47:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps this is a sim that realized that justifying being a jerk by quoting some troll of a cheesy fantasy novel like it was The Bible isn&#039;t a recipe for long term  social happiness? It can&#039;t be. The only reason to be on the intertubes to to unleash your nerd rage. This sims with their Gor canon breaking custom are TRUE perverts here.

John Norman weeps when he thinks of you! Do you hear that?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps this is a sim that realized that justifying being a jerk by quoting some troll of a cheesy fantasy novel like it was The Bible isn&#8217;t a recipe for long term  social happiness? It can&#8217;t be. The only reason to be on the intertubes to to unleash your nerd rage. This sims with their Gor canon breaking custom are TRUE perverts here.</p>
<p>John Norman weeps when he thinks of you! Do you hear that?</p>
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		<title>By: Melissa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Melissa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 08:48:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m really loving this series of articles! As a fairly new member of the sl community (rez date 10/08) I was astonished to find the depth of rp that could be found. And as a medieval fantasy fan, I -was- curious about the whole Gor side of sl.  Having gotten deeper into my own rp experiences, I&#039;ve been warned numerous times to not venture into Gor territory. Even made to promise to never go...&quot;You can get really hurt over there if you don&#039;t know what you&#039;re doing&quot;... That&#039;s what I&#039;m told. I&#039;ve since lost the desire to go searching around for such experiences, but the looming presence of Gor is always in the background.  Great job on the articles, they&#039;ve got me hooked and always looking for the next installment.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m really loving this series of articles! As a fairly new member of the sl community (rez date 10/08) I was astonished to find the depth of rp that could be found. And as a medieval fantasy fan, I -was- curious about the whole Gor side of sl.  Having gotten deeper into my own rp experiences, I&#8217;ve been warned numerous times to not venture into Gor territory. Even made to promise to never go&#8230;&#8221;You can get really hurt over there if you don&#8217;t know what you&#8217;re doing&#8221;&#8230; That&#8217;s what I&#8217;m told. I&#8217;ve since lost the desire to go searching around for such experiences, but the looming presence of Gor is always in the background.  Great job on the articles, they&#8217;ve got me hooked and always looking for the next installment.</p>
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