Comments on: The CryoLife Papers – Exporting and Pirating Avatars

By: Dimitrov

Dimitrov — Sat, 19 Dec 2009 23:44:36 +0000

Lol what a fucking douche bagger Pixie is. ” It’s like buying pot: – just network your way in and stay cool or the dealer won’t give you what you want.” You’re a child.

For those wondering, the one who wrote the code for VLife now called Onyx as previously mentionned was walking around under the name Jcool410 Wildcat
but now is Fractured Crystal and hangs at ‘Emerald Point’ sim pretending to be innocent with his banhappy face when he’s actually the biggest mushroom-headed faggot there is. Alot of people know how code better than this idiot does. He is simply doing it in a so-called ”Virtual World” filled with uneducated retards who failed at school.

You suck.

By: Muziekfreak1980 miles

Muziekfreak1980 miles — Fri, 13 Nov 2009 07:29:34 +0000

Im a merchant/Creator in sl since beginnin 2007.
There many ways to steal content, Cryolife as far is my knowledge goes about this client. Does not STEAL animations/gestures. It enables you to change permissions and thats something that i do see as a VERY WELL KNOWN choice of the creator of Cryolife.

One said here “do not judge someone on the past actions, but the present” So when a killer goes back to school in rl, we should set him free. Afterall his actions WERE in the past. Common do not give me that kind of hypocritical bullocks. In second life there more then one way to steal

How about GLintercept? It is not even a client free to download, some fiddling in the config file. And with one shortcut you rip a entire sim including avatars.

How bout Copybot, easy way to rip buildings, avatars and still easy to find.

My point? It will never stop, does not matter how much the try or do. Sl is opensource and thus a invitation for piracy. And the worst part is LL does not give a crap at all. The see there numbers go up that is all what the care about. The big companies that juice them..

By: mosqitoo

mosqitoo — Sun, 18 Oct 2009 12:40:18 +0000

how can get it, how can ı use it pls…. thank you

By: molly

molly — Thu, 15 Oct 2009 00:19:27 +0000

i have read this article and it is very well writen so far but where is the sound and animations part of the article

By: Lisa

Lisa — Tue, 29 Sep 2009 00:08:26 +0000

I’ve read the three articles, and thank you for providing a thorough disserte’ on the ins and outs of how at least this viewer can be used by pirates. Repeatedly you refer to creators (like myself) protecting themselves. It seems the only practical suggestions you make that might address this are to use the Emerald viewer and sell attachments with a prim puke in the box so the attachments will be protected. You make it fairly clear that at least CryoLife can get around every other protection out there, piracy WILL happen, and there is so far nothing that can be done about it, and likely nothing long-term effective ever will be able to be done about it without changing the very nature of the internet itself in ways most of us wouldn’t like. So how, practically speaking, can a seller “factor in piracy” effectively? I ask this because I am a new creator and new business person in SL and would like to know what measures I can take to protect my business from going under in the inevitable event that someday someone wants to pirate something I’ve made. I accept that piracy does happen, will happen, and my “intellectual property” belongs to me only in my little head, my little imaginary universe. In the real world, and its extension, Second Life, anyone can steal anything I make and sell it as their own. Great, having accepted that, now how do I keep this from ruining my business later on down the line? Prim Puke only protects attachments. It does not protect houses, furniture, gadgets. It does not protect skins, shapes, system clothing. It does not protect gestures, animations or sounds. Using the Emerald viewer may protect me from having my stuff stolen off my avatar when I’m inworld, but I’m unclear how it protects me from a pirate stealing my stuff off an avatar who is not using the Emerald viewer. I might have gotten confused amongst the unfamiliar territory and wealth of information presented in your articles, so please don’t take my tone to be critical at all. I really need to know these things and would appreciate any input you can send me. I would prefer to have the reply, if you are willing to take the time to reply, sent to my email rather than posted here, as I’m not even sure I’ll find my way back to this site again anytime soon. In case you don’t see my email, its bdr_design@yahoo.com. Needless to say, its also not necessary to post this epistle on the site, I just have no other way to get ahold of you and you seem rational enough and informed enough to at least give me some starter points for future reference. Thank you!

By: waltdisneys cryotank

waltdisneys cryotank — Tue, 15 Sep 2009 15:57:05 +0000

I stole a copy of this news article using ctrl+c

By: LordGregGreg Back

LordGregGreg Back — Mon, 31 Aug 2009 20:50:38 +0000

Mmm, developments.

i accurate way to detect cryo life that goes beyond any plugin mask or any of that crap.

(please use this because im sick of people banning people who use my proxy without cryo life -.-)

https://www.xstreetsl.com/modules.php?name=Marketplace&file=item&ItemID=1738925

By: FAILNESS

FAILNESS — Mon, 24 Aug 2009 20:48:18 +0000

This post sucks, you did your work wrong.

CryoLife indeed steals EVERYTHING but scripts. One may steal animations, gestures, and etc they own by dropping them in a notecard > save > drag it out.

Enjoy.

By: Thelius

Thelius — Sat, 22 Aug 2009 19:43:45 +0000

The first person to actually write the first import/export (copybot system) was actually a hack discovered by Nexis from the PN, possibly even someone before him by altering a SLBot program.

Then you had Discrete code it into the actual viewer, then you had Jcool410, or Jay as he is known to everyone at Bug Island, who implemented it into VLife. The later versions of VLife known as Onyx actually have one button avatar export, textures, shape and all prims. Too bad you have to pay for uploads now that LL broke the system for it, thanks to the leak of CryoLife. Not to mention, the best part is, it shows the hack work by Linden Labs to actually protect their sellers, or any of their residents from these type of hacks due to the obvious reason that LL actually is aware of the systems since they had a version of Cryo actually posted to them. Jay from South Carolina has actually acheieved a permissions hack that actually changed an entire object including the scripts and the original owner to a full permissions version that he was able to take and then give away at his leisure.

Where is the logic in actually posting that these things should actually be exploited when they are financial gain for the hacks, such as Jay selling his viewer for 50k Lindens to anyone who is willing to pay it? Not to mention, he will tell it to anyone at Bug Island? Janius and LordGregGreg, you are both saying that countermeasures should be exclusive to anyone that finds them, but are defending an obvious copybot system that is actually sold for money.. This makes no sense.

By: Obvious Schism

Obvious Schism — Tue, 04 Aug 2009 04:48:17 +0000

“Someday virtual worlds might become like TV where only the flat 2D image is piped to your computer, but that is years away from where we are now.”

Actually, a company called Vollee was doing this years ago, albeit to mobile devices.