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	<title>Comments on: AbidE Blessed &#8212; Post 6 Grrrrl</title>
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		<title>By: jomin j</title>
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		<dc:creator>jomin j</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2009 21:11:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lawl ^^
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		<title>By: DancesWithRobots</title>
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		<dc:creator>DancesWithRobots</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 12:33:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whats wrong with a little tolerance?

Never mind that I knew Abide before she became a kajira.  Never mind that she&#039;s an accomplished artist who has created things the likes of which I&#039;ve never seen on the grid.  Never mind that I wish she&#039;d talked more about her art than her master and Gorean lifestyle.  Never mind that exaggerated unrealistic shapes are sometimes a result of accomodating the clothes we choose to wear.  (How many of you women have a &quot;skirt shape?&quot;

Becoming a kajira and a submissive was her CHOICE.  If you folks don&#039;t like Gor,  (personally, I don&#039;t care for it either)  DON&#039;T GO THERE.  But there is plenty of room on the grid for Goreans, feminists, photographers, furries, rp&#039;ers, merchants and just about anything else we CHOOSE to be.  Naked kajirae are a fact of the grid, and some of us like to look at them, even if arguably, the &quot;photography&quot; isn&#039;t the best.

Lay off a little.

Our diversity is our strength folks.
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<p>Never mind that I knew Abide before she became a kajira.  Never mind that she&#8217;s an accomplished artist who has created things the likes of which I&#8217;ve never seen on the grid.  Never mind that I wish she&#8217;d talked more about her art than her master and Gorean lifestyle.  Never mind that exaggerated unrealistic shapes are sometimes a result of accomodating the clothes we choose to wear.  (How many of you women have a &#8220;skirt shape?&#8221;</p>
<p>Becoming a kajira and a submissive was her CHOICE.  If you folks don&#8217;t like Gor,  (personally, I don&#8217;t care for it either)  DON&#8217;T GO THERE.  But there is plenty of room on the grid for Goreans, feminists, photographers, furries, rp&#8217;ers, merchants and just about anything else we CHOOSE to be.  Naked kajirae are a fact of the grid, and some of us like to look at them, even if arguably, the &#8220;photography&#8221; isn&#8217;t the best.</p>
<p>Lay off a little.</p>
<p>Our diversity is our strength folks.</p>
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		<title>By: Scylla Rhiadra</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scylla Rhiadra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 11:05:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Does disagreeing with a mainstream feminist viewpoint make a woman anti-woman?&quot;

Well, in theory, the two should be the same: being &quot;anti-feminist&quot; is theoretically the same as being &quot;anti-woman.&quot;  But that, needless to say, is simplistic and reductive, if only because there are so many different &quot;feminisms&quot; in competition.  I&#039;d probably prefer to invert the equation in any case: if you are &quot;pro-woman,&quot; you ARE a &quot;feminist,&quot; even if you don&#039;t know it, or wouldn&#039;t acknowledge it. Ultimately, &quot;feminism&quot; isn&#039;t about one particular political or ethical position or another: it&#039;s about bettering the social and political condition of women.  Indeed, increasingly, feminism is moving beyond even this, and highlighting a broader perspective:  issues like gender equality, ending violence against women, and so forth, are no longer thought of as &quot;women&#039;s issues,&quot; but rather larger societal ones.  And I think that is good, actually.  For instance, ending violence against women is imperative. But so too is ending ALL violence, period.  A feminist approach which is essentially anti-violence should be able to encompass both ends, because they are, really, one and the same.

Another point, though. I&#039;d always want to make a distinction between the person and the ideology. Abide, for instance, is engaged in a form or role playing that I, and (I suspect) the vast majority of feminists would see as anti-woman.  That need not mean that SHE is anti-woman.  Humans are far more complicated than ideologies.

So, the short answer to &quot;Does disagreeing with a mainstream feminist viewpoint make a woman anti-woman?&quot; is, I think, no.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Does disagreeing with a mainstream feminist viewpoint make a woman anti-woman?&#8221;</p>
<p>Well, in theory, the two should be the same: being &#8220;anti-feminist&#8221; is theoretically the same as being &#8220;anti-woman.&#8221;  But that, needless to say, is simplistic and reductive, if only because there are so many different &#8220;feminisms&#8221; in competition.  I&#8217;d probably prefer to invert the equation in any case: if you are &#8220;pro-woman,&#8221; you ARE a &#8220;feminist,&#8221; even if you don&#8217;t know it, or wouldn&#8217;t acknowledge it. Ultimately, &#8220;feminism&#8221; isn&#8217;t about one particular political or ethical position or another: it&#8217;s about bettering the social and political condition of women.  Indeed, increasingly, feminism is moving beyond even this, and highlighting a broader perspective:  issues like gender equality, ending violence against women, and so forth, are no longer thought of as &#8220;women&#8217;s issues,&#8221; but rather larger societal ones.  And I think that is good, actually.  For instance, ending violence against women is imperative. But so too is ending ALL violence, period.  A feminist approach which is essentially anti-violence should be able to encompass both ends, because they are, really, one and the same.</p>
<p>Another point, though. I&#8217;d always want to make a distinction between the person and the ideology. Abide, for instance, is engaged in a form or role playing that I, and (I suspect) the vast majority of feminists would see as anti-woman.  That need not mean that SHE is anti-woman.  Humans are far more complicated than ideologies.</p>
<p>So, the short answer to &#8220;Does disagreeing with a mainstream feminist viewpoint make a woman anti-woman?&#8221; is, I think, no.</p>
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		<title>By: Jessica Holyoke</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jessica Holyoke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 09:25:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Scylla,

I don&#039;t mind arguing about Gorean sexual politics and whether or not it is misogynistic as opposed to anti-feminist.  Actually, that is a good argument; are religions and cultures that offer a secondary role to women misogynistic or anti-feminist?  Does disagreeing with a mainstream feminist viewpoint make a woman anti-woman?

Its like every couple of days we&#039;re arguing about Sarah Palin all over again.
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<p>I don&#8217;t mind arguing about Gorean sexual politics and whether or not it is misogynistic as opposed to anti-feminist.  Actually, that is a good argument; are religions and cultures that offer a secondary role to women misogynistic or anti-feminist?  Does disagreeing with a mainstream feminist viewpoint make a woman anti-woman?</p>
<p>Its like every couple of days we&#8217;re arguing about Sarah Palin all over again.</p>
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		<title>By: Takuya Kawashima</title>
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		<dc:creator>Takuya Kawashima</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 23:28:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#039;@Tayuka...wow, what a bitch you are.....incredibly mean spirited comments&#039;

Well, I&#039;m male, maybe you want to change that &#039;bitch&#039; into &#039;bastard&#039; but I can live well with either. Incredibly mean spirited? Because I critized the quality of images that someone gets money for?

Let me quote from the profile of the amazing photographer: You pay me a LOT of money. I enjoy taking pictures of people, I enjoy making them feel beautiful and special and getting the pictures exactly the way the model wants. That takes time. My time will cost you, again, a LOT of money.

A lot of money for this quality? And he&#039;s getting money for the Post 6 too... Taking money makes you at least semi-professional and as such you should be able to live with criticism.

Oh and Bob, now I know who you are. The guy who wrote his bio from the dog&#039;s perspective... no surprise you have a thing for collars and people spending time on all fours.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;@Tayuka&#8230;wow, what a bitch you are&#8230;..incredibly mean spirited comments&#8217;</p>
<p>Well, I&#8217;m male, maybe you want to change that &#8216;bitch&#8217; into &#8216;bastard&#8217; but I can live well with either. Incredibly mean spirited? Because I critized the quality of images that someone gets money for?</p>
<p>Let me quote from the profile of the amazing photographer: You pay me a LOT of money. I enjoy taking pictures of people, I enjoy making them feel beautiful and special and getting the pictures exactly the way the model wants. That takes time. My time will cost you, again, a LOT of money.</p>
<p>A lot of money for this quality? And he&#8217;s getting money for the Post 6 too&#8230; Taking money makes you at least semi-professional and as such you should be able to live with criticism.</p>
<p>Oh and Bob, now I know who you are. The guy who wrote his bio from the dog&#8217;s perspective&#8230; no surprise you have a thing for collars and people spending time on all fours.</p>
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		<title>By: Scylla Rhiadra</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scylla Rhiadra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 22:55:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Scylla (our resident radical feminist)&quot;

Cool!!  Does it include a stipend?  :-)
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<p>Cool!!  Does it include a stipend?  <img src='http://alphavilleherald.com/site/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 21:59:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Tayuka...wow, what a bitch you are.....incredibly mean spirited comments.

@Scylla...And I do wish that the radical feminists here would stop proselytising. If radical feminism is your thing, fine: I think it&#039;s somewhat repellent and objectionable, but you&#039;re free to have fun with it. What is annoying (and frankly offensive) is that virtually every time Scylla (our resident radical feminist) appears here she is attempting to recruit others to her cause through intolerant thought and lame argument. It&#039;s like being mobbed by cult members armed with pamphlets at the airport. We know that radical feminists have very active recruitment campaigns: must it extend even to Post 6?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Tayuka&#8230;wow, what a bitch you are&#8230;..incredibly mean spirited comments.</p>
<p>@Scylla&#8230;And I do wish that the radical feminists here would stop proselytising. If radical feminism is your thing, fine: I think it&#8217;s somewhat repellent and objectionable, but you&#8217;re free to have fun with it. What is annoying (and frankly offensive) is that virtually every time Scylla (our resident radical feminist) appears here she is attempting to recruit others to her cause through intolerant thought and lame argument. It&#8217;s like being mobbed by cult members armed with pamphlets at the airport. We know that radical feminists have very active recruitment campaigns: must it extend even to Post 6?</p>
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		<title>By: Quite Concerned Here</title>
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		<dc:creator>Quite Concerned Here</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 21:59:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If Bunny Effing Brickworks has access to Herald comments, and everyone&#039;s IP address along with it, I will never read the Herald again.

Pixeleen, Uri- you should have changed her password. I don&#039;t think this will sit well.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Bunny Effing Brickworks has access to Herald comments, and everyone&#8217;s IP address along with it, I will never read the Herald again.</p>
<p>Pixeleen, Uri- you should have changed her password. I don&#8217;t think this will sit well.</p>
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		<title>By: jomin j</title>
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		<dc:creator>jomin j</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 20:47:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ahahahahah

I guess my &quot;bolted on boobies&quot; comment was right on the money to elicit repetition in so many sockpuppet comments.

Keep it coming, y&#039;all, I&#039;m enjoying it. :-)
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ahahahahah</p>
<p>I guess my &#8220;bolted on boobies&#8221; comment was right on the money to elicit repetition in so many sockpuppet comments.</p>
<p>Keep it coming, y&#8217;all, I&#8217;m enjoying it. <img src='http://alphavilleherald.com/site/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Scylla Rhiadra</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scylla Rhiadra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 18:50:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Takuya has, again, already said much of what I would say here in response to &quot;Why are you all so&quot; etc.  Just to reiterate, however: like Takuya, I have absolutely no objectons to nudity per se, here or elsewhere, nor to sex for that matter.  (I am glad she didn&#039;t spill the beans, however, on my upcoming nuptials to Bunny ...)

Takuya has an eye for and an expertise in SL photography, a skill I sadly lack, but I concur, in my own humble way, that these compositions do not seem very well done or interesting.

More to the point, however, for me is that the bios and, unfortunately, subjects themselves seldom seem very interesting either.  As I have said in relation to previous posts, this isn&#039;t a knock against THIS subject; I&#039;m sure Abide is a wonderful person.  Possibly, had she spoken more about her art, and less about her &quot;Master,&quot; she might have demonstrated that she IS interesting.  But she chose not to.  And so, however brilliant and articulate and fascinating Abide may in fact be, we are nonetheless given here another vacuous account of ... well, not much at all really.

I understand that Post 6 is not hard-hitting journalism, but there is no reason why it should not be at least literate, interesting, and artful. There must be MANY men and women in SL who would be willing to pose for tasteful and artistically composed nude shots, who are also doing interesting and worthwhile things, and are capable of articulating them in a literate and entertaining fashion.  We&#039;ve seen, in my judgment, a few such people featured here, but overall Timothy seems far too reliant on returning again and again to the same generic format and the same rather limited pool of in-world &quot;talent.&quot;

Nudity and sexuality needn&#039;t = formulaic and banal.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Takuya has, again, already said much of what I would say here in response to &#8220;Why are you all so&#8221; etc.  Just to reiterate, however: like Takuya, I have absolutely no objectons to nudity per se, here or elsewhere, nor to sex for that matter.  (I am glad she didn&#8217;t spill the beans, however, on my upcoming nuptials to Bunny &#8230;)</p>
<p>Takuya has an eye for and an expertise in SL photography, a skill I sadly lack, but I concur, in my own humble way, that these compositions do not seem very well done or interesting.</p>
<p>More to the point, however, for me is that the bios and, unfortunately, subjects themselves seldom seem very interesting either.  As I have said in relation to previous posts, this isn&#8217;t a knock against THIS subject; I&#8217;m sure Abide is a wonderful person.  Possibly, had she spoken more about her art, and less about her &#8220;Master,&#8221; she might have demonstrated that she IS interesting.  But she chose not to.  And so, however brilliant and articulate and fascinating Abide may in fact be, we are nonetheless given here another vacuous account of &#8230; well, not much at all really.</p>
<p>I understand that Post 6 is not hard-hitting journalism, but there is no reason why it should not be at least literate, interesting, and artful. There must be MANY men and women in SL who would be willing to pose for tasteful and artistically composed nude shots, who are also doing interesting and worthwhile things, and are capable of articulating them in a literate and entertaining fashion.  We&#8217;ve seen, in my judgment, a few such people featured here, but overall Timothy seems far too reliant on returning again and again to the same generic format and the same rather limited pool of in-world &#8220;talent.&#8221;</p>
<p>Nudity and sexuality needn&#8217;t = formulaic and banal.</p>
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