>> I would personally consider all examples to be rather disturbing. In reaction, I would not picket for their removal. I would simply go somewhere else. In addition, each example you’ve provided is potentially against the TOS/CS in SL. If I were to observe it inworld, I’d likely AR it. (^_^)

At the same time, there is currently a Holocaust Memorial Museum build in SL which includes a quarter sim sized depiction of kristallnacht. In context, all the propaganda, pain, and suffering is being depicted there in a visceral and emotional presentation. I would NEVER want such a thing removed from presentation. (>_> Do you have sex with your boyfriend/girlfriend/husband/wife? Do you put up sign boards of your various erotic acts on your front lawn? I don’t either. Everything has a place and a means of access. Comcast delivers “Teletubbies” and “Asian Anal Adventures – part 4″ on the same cable. It’s up to you to decide what you look at and what you avoid. (^_^)

Girly-girl’s blog? You seeked it out, you found it, and it’s your fault it was on you computer screen. I have no desire to see he blog so I make the logical decision to not seek it out. Her blog is not her “front lawn”. (^_^)

“The point is about the IMPACT of these kinds of images, about the way that they desensitize people to violence, and communicate the idea that it’s really kind of a turn on to murder and mutilate women. Obviously some people think so, are they wouldn’t play at Dolcett in the first place, would they? (And I HAVE spoken, one-on-one, to Dolcett players who confirm that it IS a sexual turn on.)”

>> Different strokes for different folks. I’m very squeamish. I can’t even look at a syringe without getting woozy. Others fap to a bloody mess. As long as they’re not spilling real blood I say let them fap. (^_^)

I, personally, despise the word “desensitize”. It’s over used and has lead to a desensitization all its own. It’s an easy word to use yet a difficult one to explain. (>_<)

I have faced years of simulated violence in movies, games, and roleplay. But, hearing someone shout loudly in a shopping center or seeing a real fist-fight from a distance still scares the crud out of me to the point of cowering, running away, or even experience extreme nausea. I, for one, am NOT desensitized in any way even though I have experienced simulated violence all my life. I’m sure there are plenty of people just like me in this respect. (=_=)

So, if she likes to simulate things that arouse her, let her. If she publicizes it on a blog, let her and don’t visit the blog. If you want to crusade against violence, go find the people who are actually violent. (=_=)

Somewhere in this world; there is someone having some good clean fun doing the one thing you hate the most. (^_^)y

“Let’s just say I’m wondering if boinking the photographer has become a pre-requisite for becoming a Post 6 Grrrrl.”

While I can’t speak for any of Timothy’s other models, Timothy was a perfect gentleman during my shoot and on the few occasions I’ve spoken to him since, he’s been polite and friendly with no sign or mention of “sex for Post 6 article” or anything even slightly of that nature. If he’s in a relationship with this model then that’s entirely his business and I can’t speak for that of course but I thought it only fair to point out that on at least one occasion, he acted like a complete gentleman to his model.

http://foo.secondlifeherald.com/slh/2009/06/senban-babii-post-6-grrrl.html

I accept that your suggestion that I pose is entirely sincere; I can also see some merit in it, even. However, surely you can understand why a feminist concerned about the objectification of women would not agree to pose nude in a context like this. It’s not that I’m a prude: I’m quite happy to get naked, even publicly, when it seems appropriate. Indeed, I’d probably agree to do an “artistic nude,” but the photos here just don’t qualify: this is, as you have yourself said, a “fluff” piece, and the pics are pure cheescake. So I am going to decline the suggestion.

Poppy:

I have seen Body Works; indeed, it is showing in my city, in its most recent incarnation, right now. There is a HUGE difference between an artistic/educational use of flayed bodies, and in highly eroticized pictures of a woman who has clearly died violently, and under torture. The point isn’t that she doesn’t have skin; it’s that she has obviously been brutally tortured, murdered, and then turned into a sexual fetish. I’m amazed you even make the comparison.

As for the rest of her blog, I find virtually nil artistry to the compositions or the photography. Exactly how many other pictures does she need to have to cancel out the effect of nine snuff shots? You talk as though you could “water down” their impact. You can’t.

Immy:

You don’t really answer my question directly, but the implication of your post is that pretty much anything that is “only pixels” is permissible. So, let’s follow this through to its logical conclusion, as Selonna does. What about SL snaps representing a child being molested? Or perhaps murdered? Is that ok? Let’s switch gears: what about pixellated representations of blacks being lynched by the KKK? Or Jews dying in gas chambers? After all, no one was “hurt” in real, right?

If that is your principle, how about we apply this to RL? Would it be ok to post a representation of child molestation on your front lawn? Still no one being “hurt,” right . . . ? And Ashyne’s pics are a hell of a lot more accessible online than is your front lawn.

How about a racist image? Is that ok, in real life?

The point that you seem to be missing is that this is not about consent: no one is denying that these pics were consensual. Nor it is about harmed in the literal sense that you intend it: of course no one was “harmed” physically. And I have NOT questioned Ashyne’s “right” to play at Dolcett, merely her right to post these pictures publicly.

The point is about the IMPACT of these kinds of images, about the way that they desensitize people to violence, and communicate the idea that it’s really kind of a turn on to murder and mutilate women. Obviously some people think so, are they wouldn’t play at Dolcett in the first place, would they? (And I HAVE spoken, one-on-one, to Dolcett players who confirm that it IS a sexual turn on.)

If images don’t impact on our perceptions, why do corporations spend billions of dollars annually on advertising?

Let’s just say I’m wondering if boinking the photographer has become a pre-requisite for becoming a Post 6 Grrrrl. If so, I’m thinking the line of wannabees might be greatly reduced…at least among those with a modicum of self respect.

*Ahem*

Not that there’s anything wrong with that, of course.

Now, would you find someone that uses virtual avatars to make pictures of children performing sex acts on adults to be offensive?

Just because it’s virtual doesn’t mean it can’t be (or shouldn’t be) offensive. If someone was drawing pictures of kiddie porn, I would seriously question their ethics. I think that’s the point that’s trying to be made… the virtual medium is an art and is just as capable of offending.

Why can’t Timothy land more avvies who are interesting? Some have suggested that he frequents the “wrong sort of place”. I don’t think it’s that. Most successful female avvies, particularly those with actual women at the keyboard won’t want to turn their avvies into wank material, particularly on a web page with fairly obvious sympathies to PN and other griefer groups. So, Timothy lands mostly superficial people who want to show off an avvie they made that they think is sexy or provokative and crave adoration or wanking that they may not be getting in RL.

Imnotgoing “Immy” is also a long-haired, neckbearded serial-killing looking person who used to publicly advertise that they went to 7chan’s “/cake/” forum– a forum dedicated to getting off on drawn pictures of children being sexually assaulted. Is it any wonder that this little ageplayer-avatar’d “person” would come here to defend this shit?

This is a person who literally lives by the “just pixels” mantra, because it’s the only defense for their fetish-bordering-on-mental-illness.