Comments on: Linden Research Denies Eros/Nominee Trademark/Copyright Complaint

By: Second Life Twitter War Goes Beyond Nasty | The Alphaville Herald

Second Life Twitter War Goes Beyond Nasty | The Alphaville Herald — Sun, 09 Oct 2011 21:41:50 +0000

[...] latest development in a conflict that began after Stroker Serpentine filed a lawsuit against Linden Lab. Shortly after the suit was filed, Jumpman Lane began a vigorous campaign against Serpentine – a [...]

By: Xanthos

Xanthos — Thu, 05 Nov 2009 22:47:57 +0000

Same I will laugh at stroker, because of what all 3 of those guys have caused. Stroker, RebelHope, and Rh Engel. They made it impossible to find out the real thieves, and they all tried to sue linden labs for no reason. That is why Ill laugh. For all you other content creators who have done nothing wrong, I feel bad for you.

By: Sinden Lucks

Sinden Lucks — Thu, 05 Nov 2009 01:50:09 +0000

“Most importantly … The ninth Defense … UNCLEAN HANDS. The Lab is planning to prove that Stroker Serpentine is a content thief himself. I for one am planning on going down to the courthouse for this one to see what is going to happen here. I am very interested in seeing this one first hand.”

Yes, and guess what. Stroker the clown is on “their” turf claiming he has rights and a company. You have no rights or a company within someone elses domain and control.

Linden controls everything about their service. Stroker can whine all he wants to about content theft in SL, but a mere copyright at the patent office and a business cert on the wall means little unless you have complete control of business operations. Stroker made his little sexGen(tm) business using the technology provided by Linden. And no matter what he thinks, that is no real business. In real business, you do have complete control over the company and decisions made. Stroker believes, and I do believe this, that he is doing this in the best interest of “His Company”. Well, excuse me, and get a life. You have no real company. I don’t care what the hell he made in Second Life, that is not a real company. Stroker has no control over anything in SL. None. None at all. And anyone claiming to have a real and legitimate business using the resources of others with no control whatsoever over anything or over any such part of the service is friggen moron. He does no more than anyone else playing business in Second Life. Nothing. And his LLC doesn’t mean dog shit without any control of the service. He was a moron to even start an LLC based off of anything provided by another company.

And to make the moronic value stand out even further, he sues the hand that let him play business (and again I could care less what he made in SL), and Linden has the logs and the data to mop up his sorry ass all over the floor. You don’t sue just because you hold copyrights. I’ve had more than a few U.S. copyrights. So what. Just because you hold a copyright doesn’t mean horse garbage when the company you host your data on has the logs and records. They are going to make him the biggest fool on the planet. Watch and see. I don’t know if he is just dumb, or if he has no clue how things work. Linden will most surely prove he is a thief and remove him from the servers before this is over. So would I. And after such Linden should throw a party and celebrate a win for the protection of their business over the fools whom want to protect their precious prims.

Stroker, nomine, and whomever… get a life. You want a real business? Quit trying to make a buck off of technology provided by others and create something yourself. Go host your own virtual content and create a real business. You won’t make a million most likely hosting your bullshit on the web, but at least you will be able to call yourself a real business if you so choose.

By: anyone

anyone — Tue, 03 Nov 2009 20:16:04 +0000

Visit the inworld vendors now Assigned vendor slots by Mia Linden.
Looks like alot of non payed/ non licensed real world IP being sold with obvious Linden approval, since they gave the spaces out by open lottery and have ignored the “new” Linden IP rules that last flooded this blog.

Clean hands…

By: Jumpman Lane

Jumpman Lane — Tue, 03 Nov 2009 18:04:57 +0000

“Those seeking equity must do equity.”
“Equity must come with clean hands”.

-Wikipedia

Hehehehehe maybe “The Face of Fraud: Inside the Corporate Culture of Eros LLC” was just Jumpy being prescient. I been telling ya’ll their hands are dirty.

@professor c maybe the upcoming Death of a Brand: The History of SexGen(R) in Second Life(R) and The Lion in Winter: The Rise and Fall of Stroker Serpentine MIGHT JUST TELL THE FUTURE too.

for the record, I am not Blondin Linden. He just dresses like meh!

By: Darien Caldwell

Darien Caldwell — Tue, 03 Nov 2009 16:09:49 +0000

Well, this shows how far LL is willing to go in order to preserve their ability to ignore copyright infringement and theft. They are without shame and past the point of redemption.

On a *completely* unrelated note, BioWare just released Dragon Age: Origins today. It has a fantastic Toolset for creating your own content within the game. 5 years in the making, it’s poised to be a blockbuster release. Greener pastures indeed.

By: Bubblesort Triskaidekaphobia

Bubblesort Triskaidekaphobia — Tue, 03 Nov 2009 16:07:30 +0000

@Professor C: The clean hands doctrine seems appropriate in this case, I believe, because from what I hear Stroker stole his company and trademark from his business partner. I hear he can not code and he's just the PR guy, the face of the company. I hear that his business partner made everything and since he cut her out of the profits he can't compete anymore and that is why his company is failing. His business partner made the beds and he cut her out of the profits and the company, but she's in Belgium and doesn't have the resources for an international lawsuit against him. He essentially stole his company, from what I understand. Eros employees are also known copybotters of Redgrave skins, from what I hear. My source for this information is the most recent issue of Slut magazine. See pg 68 for an article about how Stroker stole his company from Braggi Bard, and pg 24 to see the details on the Eros people copybotting Redgrave skins: http://www.slutmaginc.com/index.php In case anybody needs to brush up on their legal jargon, here's the wiki page on the clean hands doctrine: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unclean_hands I wish I could join you at the court house. I'd give you 9 to 10 odds that LL flys Stroker's old partner Braggi Bard in from Belgium to testify against Stroker and fly whoever runs Redgrave in to testify against Eros. This is gonna get ugly.

By: Anon

Anon — Tue, 03 Nov 2009 14:10:54 +0000

Oops. Maybe Linden Lab isn’t totally incompetent after all. (duh)

So what’s next? This goes to arbitration and Linden Lab offers to edit the ToS a bit?

By: Neo Citizen

Neo Citizen — Tue, 03 Nov 2009 10:16:24 +0000

This looks like a pass-the-buck tapdance. Stroker may lose this because of a lack of clarity as to who’s responsible for any violations of his claim and sleight-of-hand more than any actual test of the claim itself.

By: Professor C

Professor C — Tue, 03 Nov 2009 06:21:51 +0000

So far out of the three replies no one has noticed or pointed out the ‘why’ on the defense as to what they plan on proving. This is more than just a denial.

Between the Blind Trademarking and the accusation of Nominative use, The Lab is actually looking to destroy the SexGen trademark entirely.

Most importantly … The ninth Defense … UNCLEAN HANDS. The Lab is planning to prove that Stroker Serpentine is a content thief himself. I for one am planning on going down to the courthouse for this one to see what is going to happen here. I am very interested in seeing this one first hand.