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	<title>Comments on: Pink Linden&#8217;s Commerce Survey Scares Merchants</title>
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		<title>By: Neo Citizen</title>
		<link>http://alphavilleherald.com/2009/11/pink-lindens-commerce-survey-scares-merchants.html/comment-page-1#comment-2281</link>
		<dc:creator>Neo Citizen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 18:57:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know a few people who used to sell their goods on XStreetSL who don&#039;t anymore.  Most of them are pretty small potatoes.  One&#039;s pretty big.  About half of them quit because Linden Lab forced them to re-categorize their goods, resulting in an immediate and near complete loss of sales.  Linden Lab thinks they&#039;re marketing wizards too, I guess.  Too bad they&#039;re wrong.

Now this.  If these new piece-of-the-action fees go through, I think Linden Lab is going to find that 80% of the business in XStreetSL will vanish almost overnight.  Very few people I know who sell things on XStreetSL would be able to make a profit if LL took a monthly listing fee off the top.

I&#039;m convinced that the people running Linden Lab do not actually play the game they maintain and market.  It&#039;s impossible to be this stupid and clueless otherwise.


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know a few people who used to sell their goods on XStreetSL who don&#8217;t anymore.  Most of them are pretty small potatoes.  One&#8217;s pretty big.  About half of them quit because Linden Lab forced them to re-categorize their goods, resulting in an immediate and near complete loss of sales.  Linden Lab thinks they&#8217;re marketing wizards too, I guess.  Too bad they&#8217;re wrong.</p>
<p>Now this.  If these new piece-of-the-action fees go through, I think Linden Lab is going to find that 80% of the business in XStreetSL will vanish almost overnight.  Very few people I know who sell things on XStreetSL would be able to make a profit if LL took a monthly listing fee off the top.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m convinced that the people running Linden Lab do not actually play the game they maintain and market.  It&#8217;s impossible to be this stupid and clueless otherwise.</p>
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		<title>By: Neogryzor Laryukov</title>
		<link>http://alphavilleherald.com/2009/11/pink-lindens-commerce-survey-scares-merchants.html/comment-page-1#comment-2280</link>
		<dc:creator>Neogryzor Laryukov</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 05:44:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;This is an attempt to TAX merchants, plain and simple.&quot;
Absolutely agre with this comment, LL wants to increase their profit out of SL commerce.

A bad movement for everyone in my opinion. LL sees the profits of some merchants and thinks how to take a part but they don&#039;t think on the mass of creators and sellers who barely make profit.
These mass creators have a mass of stores that maintain a good number of commercial sims, (and also a mass of sells in Xstreet).
The harder for them to compete, the more abandoned sims, and less fees for LL. Also less variety and quantity of in-world content.

If Lindens really want SL commerce to &quot;evolve&quot; they should let the merchants have a margin instead of trying to take part, (take profit), on every business about SL.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;This is an attempt to TAX merchants, plain and simple.&#8221;<br />
Absolutely agre with this comment, LL wants to increase their profit out of SL commerce.</p>
<p>A bad movement for everyone in my opinion. LL sees the profits of some merchants and thinks how to take a part but they don&#8217;t think on the mass of creators and sellers who barely make profit.<br />
These mass creators have a mass of stores that maintain a good number of commercial sims, (and also a mass of sells in Xstreet).<br />
The harder for them to compete, the more abandoned sims, and less fees for LL. Also less variety and quantity of in-world content.</p>
<p>If Lindens really want SL commerce to &#8220;evolve&#8221; they should let the merchants have a margin instead of trying to take part, (take profit), on every business about SL.</p>
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		<title>By: Sinden Lucks</title>
		<link>http://alphavilleherald.com/2009/11/pink-lindens-commerce-survey-scares-merchants.html/comment-page-1#comment-2279</link>
		<dc:creator>Sinden Lucks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 00:19:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll make one more statement on this thread and leave it alone.

For two years I&#039;ve been warning others about what Linden would do next and no one listened. And every bit of it has happened. There is a war being waged. A spiritual war with this company. And it&#039;s been going on for a long time.

You need to remove all of your content from Second Life(tm). Linden Lab cannot do anything about it legally, or technically. Every time I try to warn people of what is to come, they ignore it to their own peril. If you want to save yourself the issues that will arise with Linden&#039;s continued effort of fraudulent behavior, and the continued effort of protecting such fraud for profit, you will heed the warning and remove your content from SL. When you leave, delete your inventory. And make sure you have xml copies of all of your works.

Linden isn&#039;t going to come out and tell you what they are doing. They never have with the exception of the fraudulent advertisement years ago claiming one could &quot;own virtual land&quot;. They are not going to tell you anything about whom they really are. But I know. I know exactly the kind as I&#039;ve fought their evil for years.

They won&#039;t ask for your content. They are going to do what all governments, and corporations do when they want the rights to something they have no legal right to. They are going to do all they can to persuade you to &quot;give up&quot; your rights by making offers they don&#039;t believe you would turn down. And the offers will be made future tense directed at the content that resides on their servers and services that &quot;you&quot; have legal rights to.

Before it&#039;s over, Linden will merely state that they gave you something for your content to further their agenda of greed and they will use everything in their power to have control over your content. It&#039;s not there yet, but it&#039;s coming and for all the reasons I have said in this thread.

Listen for once. And remove your content from Second Life. You&#039;ll save yourself the grief you have coming when Linden fails at the attempt of gaining legal access to what belongs to you. Don&#039;t be so wrapped up in your second life, that you don&#039;t understand what is happening in the real world. That is a trick of the adversary.

Remove your content in mass.
Linden can do nothing about it. And if they try to stop you, sue them in mass for breach of their own Terms of Service.



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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll make one more statement on this thread and leave it alone.</p>
<p>For two years I&#8217;ve been warning others about what Linden would do next and no one listened. And every bit of it has happened. There is a war being waged. A spiritual war with this company. And it&#8217;s been going on for a long time.</p>
<p>You need to remove all of your content from Second Life(tm). Linden Lab cannot do anything about it legally, or technically. Every time I try to warn people of what is to come, they ignore it to their own peril. If you want to save yourself the issues that will arise with Linden&#8217;s continued effort of fraudulent behavior, and the continued effort of protecting such fraud for profit, you will heed the warning and remove your content from SL. When you leave, delete your inventory. And make sure you have xml copies of all of your works.</p>
<p>Linden isn&#8217;t going to come out and tell you what they are doing. They never have with the exception of the fraudulent advertisement years ago claiming one could &#8220;own virtual land&#8221;. They are not going to tell you anything about whom they really are. But I know. I know exactly the kind as I&#8217;ve fought their evil for years.</p>
<p>They won&#8217;t ask for your content. They are going to do what all governments, and corporations do when they want the rights to something they have no legal right to. They are going to do all they can to persuade you to &#8220;give up&#8221; your rights by making offers they don&#8217;t believe you would turn down. And the offers will be made future tense directed at the content that resides on their servers and services that &#8220;you&#8221; have legal rights to.</p>
<p>Before it&#8217;s over, Linden will merely state that they gave you something for your content to further their agenda of greed and they will use everything in their power to have control over your content. It&#8217;s not there yet, but it&#8217;s coming and for all the reasons I have said in this thread.</p>
<p>Listen for once. And remove your content from Second Life. You&#8217;ll save yourself the grief you have coming when Linden fails at the attempt of gaining legal access to what belongs to you. Don&#8217;t be so wrapped up in your second life, that you don&#8217;t understand what is happening in the real world. That is a trick of the adversary.</p>
<p>Remove your content in mass.<br />
Linden can do nothing about it. And if they try to stop you, sue them in mass for breach of their own Terms of Service.</p>
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		<title>By: Sinden Lucks</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sinden Lucks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 21:51:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;So she responded in the merchants forums today replacing the world &#039;mall&#039; with full sims. Full sims for 30% of your content selling income.&quot;

And people will do this.. however, it will backfire and make people even angrier. They don&#039;t understand that Linden wants legal rights to your content for their own gain.

In a few years they won&#039;t be able to give a sim away, much less get what they have been charging for years. Linden is fully aware of this.

When this happens, and it will happen due to their own greed, there won&#039;t be a market for the thieving land baron robbers who sell, take back, and resell the simulator space over and over. And all of their so called investments will be &quot;worthless&quot; as it should be. So the virtual economy will continue to spiral into the sea. Just watch and mark my words of what I write. The people in SL whom are the thieves and barons that have robbed the platform of it&#039;s real value have no talent. They won&#039;t make it doing anything else but stealing, robbing, and being how they are. And linden will lose their business over it in the end due to the protection of the thievery that goes on with their platform.

It&#039;s a classic case of the blind leading the blind.. they both fall into the ditch.

People won&#039;t believe it when I state that they cannot even sleep over their own greed and fraud. But I know they don&#039;t.

Do I wish for the their demise? Absolutely not, they do and don&#039;t realize it. Simple lack of prophetic vision.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;So she responded in the merchants forums today replacing the world &#8216;mall&#8217; with full sims. Full sims for 30% of your content selling income.&#8221;</p>
<p>And people will do this.. however, it will backfire and make people even angrier. They don&#8217;t understand that Linden wants legal rights to your content for their own gain.</p>
<p>In a few years they won&#8217;t be able to give a sim away, much less get what they have been charging for years. Linden is fully aware of this.</p>
<p>When this happens, and it will happen due to their own greed, there won&#8217;t be a market for the thieving land baron robbers who sell, take back, and resell the simulator space over and over. And all of their so called investments will be &#8220;worthless&#8221; as it should be. So the virtual economy will continue to spiral into the sea. Just watch and mark my words of what I write. The people in SL whom are the thieves and barons that have robbed the platform of it&#8217;s real value have no talent. They won&#8217;t make it doing anything else but stealing, robbing, and being how they are. And linden will lose their business over it in the end due to the protection of the thievery that goes on with their platform.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a classic case of the blind leading the blind.. they both fall into the ditch.</p>
<p>People won&#8217;t believe it when I state that they cannot even sleep over their own greed and fraud. But I know they don&#8217;t.</p>
<p>Do I wish for the their demise? Absolutely not, they do and don&#8217;t realize it. Simple lack of prophetic vision.</p>
<p>&#8212;</p>
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		<title>By: Sinden Lucks</title>
		<link>http://alphavilleherald.com/2009/11/pink-lindens-commerce-survey-scares-merchants.html/comment-page-1#comment-2277</link>
		<dc:creator>Sinden Lucks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 21:21:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;ve got that right Murphy. 100 percent. And it&#039;s been that way since at least 2005. But just mark my words as to what I say. You will have free land soon because Linden knows they will not be able to compete with anyone in the virtual land market. And rather than see anyone else making a buck off of it, they will give it away and rob you blind through your virtual product. I&#039;ve seen this coming for over two years.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;ve got that right Murphy. 100 percent. And it&#8217;s been that way since at least 2005. But just mark my words as to what I say. You will have free land soon because Linden knows they will not be able to compete with anyone in the virtual land market. And rather than see anyone else making a buck off of it, they will give it away and rob you blind through your virtual product. I&#8217;ve seen this coming for over two years.</p>
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		<title>By: Murphy Alderson</title>
		<link>http://alphavilleherald.com/2009/11/pink-lindens-commerce-survey-scares-merchants.html/comment-page-1#comment-2276</link>
		<dc:creator>Murphy Alderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 13:28:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course she says it isn&#039;t a road map. But we all know it is. The cat is out of the bag. If anyone really believes we won&#039;t see these changes implemented in the next 6 - 10 months - the line for the kool aid is on the left.

I believe trinity is right, it&#039;s just a way for them to tax the merchants without calling it a tax. And you know, if they want to charge us 10% to 15% per sale to allow us to sell our items, I&#039;m ok with that. I pay the xtreet tax, and I don&#039;t mind. Sure, it&#039;s be nice to sell things and keep all the dough, but I&#039;m a realist at heart. All this stuff takes money to run.

What I would like though, if or the Lab to just come out and say what they want to do. I really hate it when they do this crap, and claim to be involving the community when they already have their plans worked out, with the i&#039;s dotted and t&#039;s crossed. Then come to the community, and get &#039;input&#039; so at least some of the sheeple are lead to believe they actually contributed because their input fell inline with what the Lab already had planned.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course she says it isn&#8217;t a road map. But we all know it is. The cat is out of the bag. If anyone really believes we won&#8217;t see these changes implemented in the next 6 &#8211; 10 months &#8211; the line for the kool aid is on the left.</p>
<p>I believe trinity is right, it&#8217;s just a way for them to tax the merchants without calling it a tax. And you know, if they want to charge us 10% to 15% per sale to allow us to sell our items, I&#8217;m ok with that. I pay the xtreet tax, and I don&#8217;t mind. Sure, it&#8217;s be nice to sell things and keep all the dough, but I&#8217;m a realist at heart. All this stuff takes money to run.</p>
<p>What I would like though, if or the Lab to just come out and say what they want to do. I really hate it when they do this crap, and claim to be involving the community when they already have their plans worked out, with the i&#8217;s dotted and t&#8217;s crossed. Then come to the community, and get &#8216;input&#8217; so at least some of the sheeple are lead to believe they actually contributed because their input fell inline with what the Lab already had planned.</p>
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		<title>By: tari boyau</title>
		<link>http://alphavilleherald.com/2009/11/pink-lindens-commerce-survey-scares-merchants.html/comment-page-1#comment-2275</link>
		<dc:creator>tari boyau</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 09:11:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been an SL user for few years now, which some of this time had to tend to RL issues.  I had always had a dream of having my own store in Sl, and possibly my own sim, but after reading this and some articles, and talking to some of my SL friends I don&#039;t think I will venture that way. One of my friends  mentioned to me she was fed up and was going with some others to check out a place called SpotOn3D. Have any of you heard of it?  I don&#039;t really know what I will do, probably check it out with her.  What I really know is I am so disappointed in SL.  Thought I could come back and become a great designer and have a thriving business.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been an SL user for few years now, which some of this time had to tend to RL issues.  I had always had a dream of having my own store in Sl, and possibly my own sim, but after reading this and some articles, and talking to some of my SL friends I don&#8217;t think I will venture that way. One of my friends  mentioned to me she was fed up and was going with some others to check out a place called SpotOn3D. Have any of you heard of it?  I don&#8217;t really know what I will do, probably check it out with her.  What I really know is I am so disappointed in SL.  Thought I could come back and become a great designer and have a thriving business.</p>
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		<title>By: PinkyTiinky</title>
		<link>http://alphavilleherald.com/2009/11/pink-lindens-commerce-survey-scares-merchants.html/comment-page-1#comment-2274</link>
		<dc:creator>PinkyTiinky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 06:57:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So she responded in the merchants forums today replacing the world &#039;mall&#039; with full sims. Full sims for 30% of your content selling income.

I wonder how many land barons are merchants on SLX?

Quietly swept under the carpet in the hope they don&#039;t hear?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So she responded in the merchants forums today replacing the world &#8216;mall&#8217; with full sims. Full sims for 30% of your content selling income.</p>
<p>I wonder how many land barons are merchants on SLX?</p>
<p>Quietly swept under the carpet in the hope they don&#8217;t hear?</p>
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		<title>By: Prof. Archie Lukas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Prof. Archie Lukas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 04:53:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Capitalism

never satisfied with maintaing quality -just profitable growth and now linden labs have to squeeze more profit out of a declining market.

nothing new under the sun there
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Capitalism</p>
<p>never satisfied with maintaing quality -just profitable growth and now linden labs have to squeeze more profit out of a declining market.</p>
<p>nothing new under the sun there</p>
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		<title>By: PinkyTinky</title>
		<link>http://alphavilleherald.com/2009/11/pink-lindens-commerce-survey-scares-merchants.html/comment-page-1#comment-2272</link>
		<dc:creator>PinkyTinky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 17:20:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://theendinmind.wordpress.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://theendinmind.wordpress.com/&lt;/a&gt;

Pinks blog...She&#039;s not all bad, only when it comes to Linden Policy
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<p>Pinks blog&#8230;She&#8217;s not all bad, only when it comes to Linden Policy</p>
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