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	<title>Comments on: FTC Report to US Congress Finds Explicit Content in Second Life!!!</title>
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		<title>By: Sigmund Leominster</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sigmund Leominster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 16:56:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Scylla: I have no opposition, as such, to the FTC investigation, but as a tax payer I question the value of it. Where I do have opposition is to the notion of a government making decisions about what should and shouldn&#039;t be allowed in the sphere of human behavior or thought. I have an objection to any attempts by a government to limit, or ban, even the discussion of topics, especially when those topics are about ethics and morality. The hope is always that an elected government is ultimately responsible to the voters and can be voted out, but that can so easily be manipulated.

(a)&quot;Do you oppose in principle the filtering of &quot;criminal content,&quot; such as child sex abuse and sexual violence?&quot;

That&#039;s one of those &quot;when did you stop beating your wife&quot; questions, isn&#039;t it ;) But yes, I oppose filtering of content - whether that content is &quot;criminal&quot; is a different notion.

(b) &quot;Were it possible to filter these out without impacting upon more benign materials, would you support it?&quot;

Once again, this begs the question. I don&#039;t believe there is any technology currently available that could do this as an internet file is little more than a bundle of zeros and ones that become &quot;criminal&quot; only when translated into a readable form.

(c) Or do you believe that the internet should make all materials, including, say, real child porn and snuff films available?

I believe the internet already allows anything, which would include real child porn and alleged snuff films. The execution of Saddam Hussain and journalist Daniel Pearl were televised &quot;live&quot; over the internet. Making things &quot;available&quot; on the internet is NOT like making things &quot;available&quot; in a library.

But I&#039;m up for a &quot;thought experiment&quot; here: So what if there were some super-duper &quot;Colossus Computer&quot; that could scan every single collection of bits transmitted to the internet in real time AND could analyze the data to determine if it coded an image that was &quot;criminal&quot; - would I still be OK with that? Mmh, I still think not because I would also have to assume that Colossus was benign and able to make black and white judgments, which is probably an intractable problem. For example, not many years ago, I could pick up a copy of the &quot;Sun&quot; newspaper back in the UK with a picture of a topless 16-year-old on page three. Technically, if I popped that in my briefcase and it was found by the customs person in the US, I could have been arrested for child porn. Note that this not about whether topless 16-year-olds is &quot;good or bad&quot; but the legal difference between two countries. Which law would Colossus use?

I am an immigrant to the US and find that the First Amendment is something that (a) US folks tend to forget the value of, and (b) is the single most powerful aspect of the constitution. Protecting freedom of speech is so important because once you lose it, it is so very hard to get it back. And it doesn&#039;t get taken away from you all at once but slice by slice.

Sorry for the long post. Next time I&#039;ll send an e-mail ;)
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Scylla: I have no opposition, as such, to the FTC investigation, but as a tax payer I question the value of it. Where I do have opposition is to the notion of a government making decisions about what should and shouldn&#8217;t be allowed in the sphere of human behavior or thought. I have an objection to any attempts by a government to limit, or ban, even the discussion of topics, especially when those topics are about ethics and morality. The hope is always that an elected government is ultimately responsible to the voters and can be voted out, but that can so easily be manipulated.</p>
<p>(a)&#8221;Do you oppose in principle the filtering of &#8220;criminal content,&#8221; such as child sex abuse and sexual violence?&#8221;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s one of those &#8220;when did you stop beating your wife&#8221; questions, isn&#8217;t it <img src='http://alphavilleherald.com/site/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />  But yes, I oppose filtering of content &#8211; whether that content is &#8220;criminal&#8221; is a different notion.</p>
<p>(b) &#8220;Were it possible to filter these out without impacting upon more benign materials, would you support it?&#8221;</p>
<p>Once again, this begs the question. I don&#8217;t believe there is any technology currently available that could do this as an internet file is little more than a bundle of zeros and ones that become &#8220;criminal&#8221; only when translated into a readable form.</p>
<p>(c) Or do you believe that the internet should make all materials, including, say, real child porn and snuff films available?</p>
<p>I believe the internet already allows anything, which would include real child porn and alleged snuff films. The execution of Saddam Hussain and journalist Daniel Pearl were televised &#8220;live&#8221; over the internet. Making things &#8220;available&#8221; on the internet is NOT like making things &#8220;available&#8221; in a library.</p>
<p>But I&#8217;m up for a &#8220;thought experiment&#8221; here: So what if there were some super-duper &#8220;Colossus Computer&#8221; that could scan every single collection of bits transmitted to the internet in real time AND could analyze the data to determine if it coded an image that was &#8220;criminal&#8221; &#8211; would I still be OK with that? Mmh, I still think not because I would also have to assume that Colossus was benign and able to make black and white judgments, which is probably an intractable problem. For example, not many years ago, I could pick up a copy of the &#8220;Sun&#8221; newspaper back in the UK with a picture of a topless 16-year-old on page three. Technically, if I popped that in my briefcase and it was found by the customs person in the US, I could have been arrested for child porn. Note that this not about whether topless 16-year-olds is &#8220;good or bad&#8221; but the legal difference between two countries. Which law would Colossus use?</p>
<p>I am an immigrant to the US and find that the First Amendment is something that (a) US folks tend to forget the value of, and (b) is the single most powerful aspect of the constitution. Protecting freedom of speech is so important because once you lose it, it is so very hard to get it back. And it doesn&#8217;t get taken away from you all at once but slice by slice.</p>
<p>Sorry for the long post. Next time I&#8217;ll send an e-mail <img src='http://alphavilleherald.com/site/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Bucky Bee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bucky Bee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2009 14:00:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OMG, is it Moral Panic Day again? Already? This sure brings back fond memories of Moral Panic Days past. I can still recall the festive fun we all had panicking over the apocalyptic effects on America&#039;s Youth of... video games, online games, techno-thrash-goth music, Black Sabbath, explicit lyrics, witches, reefer, Satanism, Dungeons &amp; Dragons, skirts that expose the ankle, Elvis, Playboy, Bettie Page, gay marriage, phone sex, The Catcher in the Rye, color TV, penny dreadfuls, absinthe, women&#039;s suffrage, the emancipation of slaves, and dropsy.

Here we go again.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OMG, is it Moral Panic Day again? Already? This sure brings back fond memories of Moral Panic Days past. I can still recall the festive fun we all had panicking over the apocalyptic effects on America&#8217;s Youth of&#8230; video games, online games, techno-thrash-goth music, Black Sabbath, explicit lyrics, witches, reefer, Satanism, Dungeons &#038; Dragons, skirts that expose the ankle, Elvis, Playboy, Bettie Page, gay marriage, phone sex, The Catcher in the Rye, color TV, penny dreadfuls, absinthe, women&#8217;s suffrage, the emancipation of slaves, and dropsy.</p>
<p>Here we go again.</p>
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		<title>By: DF</title>
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		<dc:creator>DF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 20:16:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Either anything is permitted, or nothing is permitted. The internet should remain free of any and all censorship.

Even if certain given &#039;criminal content&#039; could be blocked without censoring anything but the targeted content, who makes the rules on what is regarded criminal content? And who guarantees that *only* criminal content will be blocked, and not also content that a given government or censoring institution finds unsuitable for &#039;their&#039; people?

Censorship is a very slippery slope, the step from blocking for instance snuff to blocking political discussion sites is a very small one. It can be a tool used for right reasons, but it can too easily be abused for wrong reasons.

I would hate living in Australia, China or other opressive countries. I&#039;m glad that in my own country of residence, the internet is still a free and open technology without any restrictions in content or data transfer. No matter what kind of data it is.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Either anything is permitted, or nothing is permitted. The internet should remain free of any and all censorship.</p>
<p>Even if certain given &#8216;criminal content&#8217; could be blocked without censoring anything but the targeted content, who makes the rules on what is regarded criminal content? And who guarantees that *only* criminal content will be blocked, and not also content that a given government or censoring institution finds unsuitable for &#8216;their&#8217; people?</p>
<p>Censorship is a very slippery slope, the step from blocking for instance snuff to blocking political discussion sites is a very small one. It can be a tool used for right reasons, but it can too easily be abused for wrong reasons.</p>
<p>I would hate living in Australia, China or other opressive countries. I&#8217;m glad that in my own country of residence, the internet is still a free and open technology without any restrictions in content or data transfer. No matter what kind of data it is.</p>
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		<title>By: Scylla Rhiadra</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scylla Rhiadra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 14:34:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting post, Sigmund.  You have some details wrong, I should note: the Australian legislation has not passed yet, for one thing.

For the record, I dislike the Australian government&#039;s legislation.  I think there are lots of reasons to oppose the proposed filtering, mostly because it seems likely to cast far too wide a net, and will probably be in any case unworkable, but I am rather curious about the particular terms of reference of your post.

Do you oppose in principle the filtering of &quot;criminal content,&quot; such as child sex abuse and sexual violence?  Were it possible to filter these out without impacting upon more benign materials, would you support it?  Or do you believe that the internet should make all materials, including, say, real child porn and snuff films available?

Can you fill me in a little on the exact nature of your opposition to this?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting post, Sigmund.  You have some details wrong, I should note: the Australian legislation has not passed yet, for one thing.</p>
<p>For the record, I dislike the Australian government&#8217;s legislation.  I think there are lots of reasons to oppose the proposed filtering, mostly because it seems likely to cast far too wide a net, and will probably be in any case unworkable, but I am rather curious about the particular terms of reference of your post.</p>
<p>Do you oppose in principle the filtering of &#8220;criminal content,&#8221; such as child sex abuse and sexual violence?  Were it possible to filter these out without impacting upon more benign materials, would you support it?  Or do you believe that the internet should make all materials, including, say, real child porn and snuff films available?</p>
<p>Can you fill me in a little on the exact nature of your opposition to this?</p>
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		<title>By: Sigmund Leominster</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sigmund Leominster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 10:02:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And least we think freedom of speech is a right, check out this news story from yesterday...

&quot;The Federal Government will introduce compulsory internet filtering to block overseas sites which contain criminal content, including child sex abuse and sexual violence.&quot;

This is NOT China or Iran or some third-world dictatorship but Australia!

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2009/12/15/2772467.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2009/12/15/2772467.htm&lt;/a&gt;

This is what happens when you (or we, the people) let governments &quot;take care of us.&quot; Oh, and the reason for such filtering? Why, &quot;to protect the children&quot; of course!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And least we think freedom of speech is a right, check out this news story from yesterday&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;The Federal Government will introduce compulsory internet filtering to block overseas sites which contain criminal content, including child sex abuse and sexual violence.&#8221;</p>
<p>This is NOT China or Iran or some third-world dictatorship but Australia!</p>
<p><a href="http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2009/12/15/2772467.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2009/12/15/2772467.htm</a></p>
<p>This is what happens when you (or we, the people) let governments &#8220;take care of us.&#8221; Oh, and the reason for such filtering? Why, &#8220;to protect the children&#8221; of course!</p>
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		<title>By: Prof. Archie Lukas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Prof. Archie Lukas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 11:34:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Total wankers

but as they say.....ONLY IN AMERICA




Well we all do in the rest of the bloody World.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Total wankers</p>
<p>but as they say&#8230;..ONLY IN AMERICA</p>
<p>Well we all do in the rest of the bloody World.</p>
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		<title>By: Jumpman Lane</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jumpman Lane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Dec 2009 19:57:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>congress dont care about the kids! the want powah and they mean business! personally i&#039;m torn between virtual porn and runnin errands for gay tony and dumpin on front yard royalty! gsf4life!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>congress dont care about the kids! the want powah and they mean business! personally i&#8217;m torn between virtual porn and runnin errands for gay tony and dumpin on front yard royalty! gsf4life!</p>
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		<title>By: Leftover Waffle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leftover Waffle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Dec 2009 17:49:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay, let&#039;s make this really simple, shall we?

Pornography.  Is All Over.  The Internet.

Anything that slows a teenager down from going from zero to jizzty - such as emoting and typing complete sentences in a borky, glitched out virtual world where textures never load and attachments never attach - is a waste of their time.  They do what we all do, set the web video to forty seconds before the spunk shot and press PLAY.

The only ones wasting their time in this pointless virtual pornoventure are thirty and fortysomethings who have enjoyed far too much cake in their lives.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay, let&#8217;s make this really simple, shall we?</p>
<p>Pornography.  Is All Over.  The Internet.</p>
<p>Anything that slows a teenager down from going from zero to jizzty &#8211; such as emoting and typing complete sentences in a borky, glitched out virtual world where textures never load and attachments never attach &#8211; is a waste of their time.  They do what we all do, set the web video to forty seconds before the spunk shot and press PLAY.</p>
<p>The only ones wasting their time in this pointless virtual pornoventure are thirty and fortysomethings who have enjoyed far too much cake in their lives.</p>
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		<title>By: DF</title>
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		<dc:creator>DF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Dec 2009 04:30:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MattyK

If dead guys like M. Hatta and Elvis Prestley can get into SL, its suprising that you cant.

and being 18+, says eactly zilch of course. GTA is 18+  as well, and you dont want to know how many parents dont even concider the possibility that its not suitable for their 12 year olds. I have 2 colleagues with kids under ten who let them play GTA.

Age ratings are good for publishers, for the rest they mean jack sh*t. (IMHO the rating system is a big bag of wind anyway, after seeing the MPAA works and who owns the board)

That SL is adults only, merely means that LL can say &quot;Hey, not our fault!&quot; when lil timmy does get caught by daddy in a sex sim. It doesnt mean that the little timmies of the world WONT get onto SL. Just look at the number of square guys wearing more bling then a christmas tree, there are PLENTY of minors on the grid.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MattyK</p>
<p>If dead guys like M. Hatta and Elvis Prestley can get into SL, its suprising that you cant.</p>
<p>and being 18+, says eactly zilch of course. GTA is 18+  as well, and you dont want to know how many parents dont even concider the possibility that its not suitable for their 12 year olds. I have 2 colleagues with kids under ten who let them play GTA.</p>
<p>Age ratings are good for publishers, for the rest they mean jack sh*t. (IMHO the rating system is a big bag of wind anyway, after seeing the MPAA works and who owns the board)</p>
<p>That SL is adults only, merely means that LL can say &#8220;Hey, not our fault!&#8221; when lil timmy does get caught by daddy in a sex sim. It doesnt mean that the little timmies of the world WONT get onto SL. Just look at the number of square guys wearing more bling then a christmas tree, there are PLENTY of minors on the grid.</p>
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		<title>By: Overcast</title>
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		<dc:creator>Overcast</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Dec 2009 03:33:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a waste.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a waste.</p>
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