No wonder he had no life, all he can do is open a faggot little JLU blog, with 0 comments and listing “griefers” The fun part is, he is guilty on each of his own rules as we speak.

HE is the one provoking, i love it btw that the list leaked with names of the reporters This will come in handy to “fight” crime you fucking idiot….

Way to go superman.

Also, the Herald posted Kalel’s real name, which as was said, was already posted to Encyclopedia Dramatica, and known by probably all Second Life griefers already anyways. The JLU on the other hand, collects and posts real life information, face book pages, phone numbers, addresses, etc. of people they don’t like and share them with their entire group on the wiki. I imagine Pixeleen’s real name, address, phone number, are all shared openly on their wiki now due to this DMCA.

Also, I highly doubt that posting a name on the internet after the person knowingly filed a false DMCA (which means they accepted these results of a counter-file as a possibility), is going to get you extradited to Australia for “Cyberstalking”. Kalel tried to bully people with fraudulent DMCAs in the expectation that no one would fight back against it (largely for the same reasons that you list I imagine, to counter-file you must give your real name and address, which means that Kalel would almost certainly take that and store it in the wiki, and do god knows what with it), and found someone who wasn’t going to take that shit. He lost, and that’s the results, he should be glad that’s all the results, because abusing DMCA like he did is a crime.

Hey dummy, any legal documents are considered under the law to be public domain. If someone decides to set off the DMCA land mine, they are voluntarily disclosing their identities.

That said, you are a double dummy, cause Kalel’s RL identity is already well known and documented on Encyclopedia Dramatica.

Sheesh, it seems to be not possible to overestimate an SL users potential for retard…

Now, get back on the short bus to la-la land…

You just demonstrated why so many creators are too scared to file a valid DCMA against copybotters.

If you did that against an Australian citizen you would find yourself being extradited from the USA to face charges of cuberstalking in Australia.

I dont agree with what the JLU did in their wiki, but I find your behaviour here far more sinister.

This is true, but only because a few centuries ago, doing so was not feasible. It was still a popularity contest of sorts. If you were black, or an immigrant from a non-anglo country, you automatically were guilty. They still called it justice.

There is no reason they could not formalize it so anybody who wanted to vote had to read through and check off item by item all evidence. But yes, it would be possible for vigilante groups to pig pile on people they dont like. The lab could easily have a random system like the surveys you randomly get at login occasionally, to draft people into jury duty and have a limited jury size.

Either way, a justice system that is open, transparent, and involves the community is long overdue, and given the Lab is legally subject to Marsh v Alabama, would put it in compliance, for once, with the US Constitution.

I very much doubt LL would implement such a system. Particularly when it comes to people like myself, who have previously documented prior corrupt actions against me by LL staff:

a) for instance, Plexus Linden trying to claim I copybotted a megaprim owned by Michael Linden, when he has never used a megaprim and abhors them, and at the time, copybotting megaprims was technically impossible. Despite orders from Marty Linden to clear the offense, Harry Linden continued to claim the charge was valid but unbanned me after a few hours (For “good behavior”) because I had a clean record.

b) Jack Linden attempted to order Agent Linden to ban me from SL for 48 hours during the Open Space Sim Tier Revolt, which I helped lead, while I was speaking to fellow demonstrators at Linden Estate Services Island, for doing nothing but talking to fellow demonstrators. (The particular person operating Agent Linden at that time quit LL the next day in protest of Jack’s actions)

c) Frontier Linden deleted content of mine at a store on the mainland that was not in violation of any rules, while next door a store was openly selling explicit adult content that should have been restricted to Zindra.

If there were an open justice system in SL, then all of LL’s dirty laundry would come out, their inside dealings with a FICish few, their corrupt bannings of people who compete against their friends and employees in their private ventures, their persecution of people who go against G-team “War on e-terror” policy and actually solve the griefing problem with tried and tested juvie crime techniques that police departments use all the time (like myself and Woodbury), and their intentional manipulation of my own residents to move out of my sims in order to starve my business. If there were an open and transparent justice system in SL, public enemy number one would be Linden Lab itself.

“See, now, if Kalel were smart, the JLU would use the second life wiki to document who is who on the grid, and lobby the lab to list each avatars abuse reports, evidence, and dispositions on their SL wiki page, and let the public vote guilt or innocence to confirm or override the gteams preliminary judgement.”

This is an interesting point but one thing really jumps out as a huge potential problem.

Look at the meatworld justice system. We don’t put the defendant on trial and get the whole population to decide guilt or innocence. We create a jury of the defendant’s peers. If we had a situation as you’ve put forward, we’d soon have people gaming the system and the concept of guilt or innocence would in effect be a giant popularity contest.

Some kind of transparency is desirable I agree and also some kind of accountability.