Hats off to pixleen for showing us the light. At last someone who isnt just farting hot air into the night sky a true code genius come to our rescue
LOL i think you get the message

In response to you questioning my sanity, I’d like to suggest you actually *try* writing some lsl. I’m sure you’ll agree that java, for all it’s (admittedly numerous) flaws, can at least without hesitation be called a “programming language”, and you can in general code up anything you could code in any language. In lsl, something as simple as a binary search tree is going to require some ugly list acrobatics, and end up being just as slow as using flat data, since lsl has to copy the entire list to change one element.

I do think to call SL builders “graphic designers” is a far stretch of imagination.

For those who do custom work, if you’ll re-read my post– they do often charge by the hour (or a project cap fee). For those who script professionally, they often do charge by the hour. So your statement that SL people think they can’t charge by the hour is simply inaccurate.

I don’t see the point you’re trying to make. Maybe you could sum it up for me without use of generalized statements. What is the point exactly, you’re trying to make and how does it apply to the thread?

SL folks seem to be the only ones who do graphic design and programming who *don’t* think they can do billable hours. That’s what’s incorrect.

“Second Life is completely different from RL marketing. There is little or no cost of production, no material charges, and the rent is very low. Using an example above, taking 5 hours to make a skin becomes negligible if one sells 2,000 of those skins. The point becomes moot.”

Still costs money to feed you, and pay for the electricity and bandwidth. Time is still scarce as it is in real life.

Second Life is completely different from RL marketing. There is little or no cost of production, no material charges, and the rent is very low. Using an example above, taking 5 hours to make a skin becomes negligible if one sells 2,000 of those skins. The point becomes moot.

Second Life charges are hardly ever based on hourly fees, with the exceptions perhaps of escort services and works for hire. Second Life prices are based on “what the market will bear” and are quite usually the whim of the creator. One creator decides to sell a dress for L$300 and makes their money in quantity. Another sells a dress of similar real value for L$2000 and makes their money in perceived rarity and quality. There is no price guide, no standard of charges, no “blue book”. They charge whatever they feel like charging– and what they feel their customers are willing to pay. That’s the long and short of it.

>“If vendors treated their work as what it is: Graphic design and scripting, and charged appropriately: by the hour

Did you even think this through? Atall?

Let’s throw some approximate times it might take the average content creator to make various things in SL:

Skin: 5 hours.
Clothing: 5 hours.
Clothing with prim parts: 8 hours.
Sculpted clothing: 15 hours.
Accurate model of a real world weapon: 18 hours.
Scripts to fire said weapon: 5 hours.

Now, it shouldn’t take a fucking genius to see that if SL’s content creators valued their labour at even something as laughably low as 50 cents an hour, the average price of in-world goods would shoot up like a FUCKING ROCKET.