Comments on: Loki Clifton: The Lab Was Not Respecting The Deal We Made

By: IntLibber Brautigan

IntLibber Brautigan — Thu, 06 May 2010 21:43:51 +0000

a) Other than joining this class action, I’ve filed exactly 1 countersuit in the last five years, and the result was the idiot who tried to sue me never showed up in court, so I allowed the matter to drop. So you’ve got your head up your ass.

b) its summer, moron.

By: Noxious Gas

Noxious Gas — Thu, 06 May 2010 19:50:50 +0000

IntLibber files a lot of law suits – but has anybody ever heard of anything happening after that?

Has anybody actually ever seen any papers from any of his supposed law suits?

If you’re such a business shark, Intblub, why did you have to move back in with your mom?

By: IntLibber Brautigan

IntLibber Brautigan — Thu, 06 May 2010 17:01:20 +0000

@just pointing out,
The point of the class action is, that individuals who joined SL and invested sums of money and work into developing land, building content, and lost it to LL malfeasance, corruption, manipulation, and other abuses, prior to the changes in the TOS, are, according to the Bragg case, protected by their original contract with LL. Forced agreement to a new TOS after making such investments constitutes an adhesion contract which the courts find unenforceable.

Now, you can continue to taunt and boo-hoo and rant, and go ‘neener neener’ with your fingers in your ears and eyes wide shut, and make other noises here and elsewhere, but your noise really doesn’t matter one whit. The weight of the law is on our side, not LL.

By: Doc

Doc — Thu, 06 May 2010 08:46:55 +0000

well, somehow its weird.

We have two theories here…

1. Woodbury is the source of all evil in SL, full of evil griefers, hackers and whatnot.

2. Woodbury is full of awesome builders, scripters, and creative people.

no matter wich theory is right, the takedown was a dumb idea.
if the firstone is true, then nothing will change, because evil griefers dont need a home location, and can come back on alts anytime they want.
And if the secondone is true, its more a loss for Lindenlab, then for the creative people, because they wont waste their time in SL anymore, and will be creative in other worlds.
and if its a mix of both, the nice people left, and the bad people stay.
I see no success in all this.

So, the whole thing wont change anything for the griefer victims, that sneak out of their holes these days to give WU a last “LOL GOODBYE”

By: just pointing out...

just pointing out... — Thu, 06 May 2010 02:36:43 +0000

” To quote Phillip Rosedale’s admissions in court: “we said ‘What you have in Second Life is real and it is yours. It doesn’t belong to us.”

This isnt true anymore tho, if you’ve taken the time to read the new TOS. even the L$ isnt yours but only licenced from LL.

By: Thank you WU!

Thank you WU! — Wed, 05 May 2010 05:28:41 +0000

thank you for the laughter, the bawwwww you’re singing
thanks for all the lulz theyre bringing
Who can live without it, I ask in all honesty
what would life be?
Whitout a Woodbury whining, what are we?

So I say thank you for your bawwwwing,
for giving it to me!

By: MMMmmm Tacos

MMMmmm Tacos — Tue, 04 May 2010 21:48:53 +0000

And of course the secret, inside the Lab, additional verse:

This land is my land, it is not your land
I’ve got a ban button, and you don’t got one
I’ll permban your ass, if you don’t shut up and behave
This land was made just for you to be slaves.

By: MMMmmm Tacos

MMMmmm Tacos — Tue, 04 May 2010 21:33:29 +0000

To quote Phillip Rosedale’s admissions in court: “we said ‘What you have in Second Life is real and it is yours. It doesn’t belong to us. We have no claim to it. Whatever you do in Second Life is your own iintellectual property. You can claim copyright on it. You can make money.’…. we said the same thing about land: Land is yours to own and resell… Let’s just make this a real world. Let’s let it have a real economy and lets make property have real value….The preservation of user’s property rights is a necessary step toward the emergence of genuinely real online worlds.”

This Land by IntLibber Brautigan (adapted from original work by Woodie Guthrie)

This land is our land, it’s not their land,
From the shores of Caldbeck, to the Ancapistan Island
From the furry forests, to the Woodbury Sea,
This land was made for you and me.

As I was walking a prim ribbon of highway
I saw above me, endless skyboxway
I saw below me, a Sandbox valley
This land was made for you and me.

I’ve tp’d and godmode flown, I’ve followed prim steps
To the sparkling sands of sim deserts
And all around me, an IM was spamming
This land was made for you and me.

As I was flyin’ – I saw a ban line
And that banline said – no tress passin’
But on the other side … it didn’t say nothin!
Now that side was made for you and me

In the squares of Bay City – in the shadow of the steeple
Near the Welcome Area – I see my blingtard people
And some are grumblin’ and some are wonderin’
If this land’s still made for you and me.

By: Al the Pretender

Al the Pretender — Tue, 04 May 2010 10:12:00 +0000

So …i guess…..nobody will talk about……Woodbury’s recent Hack at Modular’s System (Greenlife Esmerald) Forum accounts……as a revenge…..or Tizzers was just bored…..she does get bored a lot……

*sigh* once a griefer always a griefer………Good riddance….PNs W-Hats………sheeesh

By: Bubblesort Triskaidekaphobia

Bubblesort Triskaidekaphobia — Tue, 04 May 2010 08:08:29 +0000

@Curious: Thanks for that link. It was very informative.