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	<title>Comments on: Emerald Site Security Broken! Data Mining Shocks Linden Lab!!!</title>
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	<description>Always Fairly Unbalanced</description>
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		<title>By: &#187; Modular Systems Hacked</title>
		<link>http://alphavilleherald.com/2010/05/emerald-site-security-broken-data-mining-shocks-linden-lab.html/comment-page-6#comment-80051</link>
		<dc:creator>&#187; Modular Systems Hacked</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Nov 2013 02:28:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] of the hacking operation was posted on May 11, 2010, on a Second Life-specific blog called &#8220;The AlphaVille Herald&#8221;, known for its heavily anarchist and anti-establishment bias. A very busy stream of comments [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] of the hacking operation was posted on May 11, 2010, on a Second Life-specific blog called &#8220;The AlphaVille Herald&#8221;, known for its heavily anarchist and anti-establishment bias. A very busy stream of comments [...]</p>
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		<title>By: &#8220;La guerra dei viewer&#8221; Emerald rimosso dall&#8217;elenco dei viewer accettati &#124; VIRTUAL WORLDS MAGAZINE</title>
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		<dc:creator>&#8220;La guerra dei viewer&#8221; Emerald rimosso dall&#8217;elenco dei viewer accettati &#124; VIRTUAL WORLDS MAGAZINE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Oct 2013 01:21:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] ultimi mesi Emerald era incappato in diversi problemi relativi alla privacy, alla raccolta di dati privati, e la stessa reputazione di molti programmatori di Emerald era molto dubbia essendo stati coinvolti [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] ultimi mesi Emerald era incappato in diversi problemi relativi alla privacy, alla raccolta di dati privati, e la stessa reputazione di molti programmatori di Emerald era molto dubbia essendo stati coinvolti [...]</p>
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		<title>By: GG3</title>
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		<dc:creator>GG3</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Apr 2011 22:30:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s a sad day when Second Life users call themselves &quot;locking&quot; others out of the grid by using malicious means. First Woodbury, now Red-Zone(which was a money-scam pit to began with). Linden Labs needs to get a hold of this and treat these IP sniffers with a penalty as serious as age-play. 

In other words Zero-Tolerance. 

These are users who have been on Second-Life well enough that their behavior is totally inexcusable and unacceptable. Using those who troll/&quot;grief&quot; fake sims is NOT a good excuse to invade people&#039;s real-life privacy. Information like this freely thrown around by random idiots who call themselves &quot;cleansing&quot; the grid need a reality check and a swfit-ban hammer in the rear-end. The internet is the internet and things of those nature will occur. It cannot be stopped, it cannot be &quot;controlled&quot;. 

Those so called &quot;residents&quot; of Second-Life who are using the service thinking they have a right to stalk/harass others are clearly wrong. That includes all groups who call themselves &quot;policing&quot; the service Second-Life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s a sad day when Second Life users call themselves &#8220;locking&#8221; others out of the grid by using malicious means. First Woodbury, now Red-Zone(which was a money-scam pit to began with). Linden Labs needs to get a hold of this and treat these IP sniffers with a penalty as serious as age-play. </p>
<p>In other words Zero-Tolerance. </p>
<p>These are users who have been on Second-Life well enough that their behavior is totally inexcusable and unacceptable. Using those who troll/&#8221;grief&#8221; fake sims is NOT a good excuse to invade people&#8217;s real-life privacy. Information like this freely thrown around by random idiots who call themselves &#8220;cleansing&#8221; the grid need a reality check and a swfit-ban hammer in the rear-end. The internet is the internet and things of those nature will occur. It cannot be stopped, it cannot be &#8220;controlled&#8221;. </p>
<p>Those so called &#8220;residents&#8221; of Second-Life who are using the service thinking they have a right to stalk/harass others are clearly wrong. That includes all groups who call themselves &#8220;policing&#8221; the service Second-Life.</p>
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		<title>By: SL Population Crash Continues &#124; The Alphaville Herald</title>
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		<dc:creator>SL Population Crash Continues &#124; The Alphaville Herald</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Apr 2011 02:01:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] visiting a surveillance-friendly virtual dystopia is an acquired taste, and not everyone wants to play stalk-and-ban-the-other-players, or hunt down [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] visiting a surveillance-friendly virtual dystopia is an acquired taste, and not everyone wants to play stalk-and-ban-the-other-players, or hunt down [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Fred Martian</title>
		<link>http://alphavilleherald.com/2010/05/emerald-site-security-broken-data-mining-shocks-linden-lab.html/comment-page-6#comment-63813</link>
		<dc:creator>Fred Martian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Sep 2010 15:43:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With access to other databases with IP addresses and smart cross correlation you can quickly come up with very interesting data.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With access to other databases with IP addresses and smart cross correlation you can quickly come up with very interesting data.</p>
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		<title>By: Was Vivox Chat p0wned by Emerald Developers? &#124; The Alphaville Herald</title>
		<link>http://alphavilleherald.com/2010/05/emerald-site-security-broken-data-mining-shocks-linden-lab.html/comment-page-6#comment-63478</link>
		<dc:creator>Was Vivox Chat p0wned by Emerald Developers? &#124; The Alphaville Herald</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Aug 2010 12:16:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] wars between the Emeralds and the Soviet Woodbury group to new levels after the Emerald&#8217;s site security was compromised and the data mining operation was revealed. This weekend, a source we will refer to as DeepYiff has [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] wars between the Emeralds and the Soviet Woodbury group to new levels after the Emerald&#8217;s site security was compromised and the data mining operation was revealed. This weekend, a source we will refer to as DeepYiff has [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Gundel Gaukelei</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gundel Gaukelei</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Aug 2010 11:51:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;So freaking what? What could you do knowing Serendipity Seraph has a ISP cable box with such and such IP?&quot;

If you want to find out, start messing with the wrong, err right people ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;So freaking what? What could you do knowing Serendipity Seraph has a ISP cable box with such and such IP?&#8221;</p>
<p>If you want to find out, start messing with the wrong, err right people &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Little Lost Linden</title>
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		<dc:creator>Little Lost Linden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Aug 2010 10:53:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Serendipity.

Pretty simple through means of social engineering to obtain your rl creds from your ip address from an ISP.

http://www.symantec.com/connect/articles/social-engineering-fundamentals-part-i-hacker-tactics</description>
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<p>Pretty simple through means of social engineering to obtain your rl creds from your ip address from an ISP.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.symantec.com/connect/articles/social-engineering-fundamentals-part-i-hacker-tactics" rel="nofollow">http://www.symantec.com/connect/articles/social-engineering-fundamentals-part-i-hacker-tactics</a></p>
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		<title>By: Kristopher Quandry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kristopher Quandry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Aug 2010 00:36:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good post.  I added this info to my site if you don;t mind, crediting you as source.  Everyone i know uses emerald viewer so they are all concerned and nervous.
I also am doing a PodCast regarding this issue with emerald, and have permission from Fractured Crystal to use his &quot;explanation&quot; blog post as my basis.

Thanks for the info re: Linden Labs.  Very important we understand everything that is happening</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good post.  I added this info to my site if you don;t mind, crediting you as source.  Everyone i know uses emerald viewer so they are all concerned and nervous.<br />
I also am doing a PodCast regarding this issue with emerald, and have permission from Fractured Crystal to use his &#8220;explanation&#8221; blog post as my basis.</p>
<p>Thanks for the info re: Linden Labs.  Very important we understand everything that is happening</p>
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		<title>By: Serendipity Seraph</title>
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		<dc:creator>Serendipity Seraph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Aug 2010 23:47:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So freaking what?  What could you do knowing Serendipity Seraph has a ISP cable box with such and such IP?  If you are lucky that gives you a rough physical address.   If unlucky you get the Comcast local address.  Then what?  Nothing much.  They can&#039;t get my iRL name from it without ISP cooperation.  Such cooperation to private parties would be a VERY BIG DEAL.   If you play from a static IP that has DNS registration to your own iRL name that you didn&#039;t bother to make private - then it could be tracked.  Or if one had enough email poked around in their full headers to find any other corresponding names they might be able to do it.  But there is no evidence offered that Emerald guys went to such lengths. 


I have received not one shred of spam or anything else due to occasionally using Emerald or any other viewer. 

May I point out that IP information is encoded in every single network packet that you send in any and every program whatsoever?   May I point out that it is considered fair game on websites to log this stuff?  

That Emerald bothered to make a database of it doesn&#039;t bother me at all. It would bother me if they actually did anything malicious with it.  But where is that proved?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So freaking what?  What could you do knowing Serendipity Seraph has a ISP cable box with such and such IP?  If you are lucky that gives you a rough physical address.   If unlucky you get the Comcast local address.  Then what?  Nothing much.  They can&#8217;t get my iRL name from it without ISP cooperation.  Such cooperation to private parties would be a VERY BIG DEAL.   If you play from a static IP that has DNS registration to your own iRL name that you didn&#8217;t bother to make private &#8211; then it could be tracked.  Or if one had enough email poked around in their full headers to find any other corresponding names they might be able to do it.  But there is no evidence offered that Emerald guys went to such lengths. </p>
<p>I have received not one shred of spam or anything else due to occasionally using Emerald or any other viewer. </p>
<p>May I point out that IP information is encoded in every single network packet that you send in any and every program whatsoever?   May I point out that it is considered fair game on websites to log this stuff?  </p>
<p>That Emerald bothered to make a database of it doesn&#8217;t bother me at all. It would bother me if they actually did anything malicious with it.  But where is that proved?</p>
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