Comments on: Emerald Gang Implodes – Viewer Ban Hammer Next?

By: deadzone

deadzone — Sat, 22 Jan 2011 18:31:42 +0000

I think the point I was trying to make is this, yes IP addys are collected by even Linden Labs, and they too know all of your alts, but what gives anyone the right to make them public. While the IP addy in zfRedzones instance is not made public, the Alt accounts are. To me that is seriously against the TOS privacy policy. Every one for whatever reason in this game has the right to privacy, for whatever reason. Stalkers should love this tool, it will give them all they need to track someone down in the game that is trying to avoid contact with them. LL needs to take a serious stand on the publication of private information in the game.

By: Nelson Jenkins

Nelson Jenkins — Sat, 15 Jan 2011 19:56:13 +0000

@ Tarheel McCoy

You volunteer this information by accessing the website knowingly. You can use NoScript or the like to figure out what comment system Alphaville Herald uses. zF Redzone leaves no trace of your visit, besides your IP address and list of alts (which I would rather keep private, but most have already been “caught”) permanently stored on its servers with no course for removal.

By: Billy Beer

Billy Beer — Fri, 14 Jan 2011 20:14:12 +0000

What other information is stolen using this hack to by-pass the firewall?

By: lolol

lolol — Fri, 14 Jan 2011 19:16:45 +0000

Using a hack/exploit to obtain information about any user without their permission is just as devious as a person copying or griefing.
Maybe a person could write us a privacy viewer with safeguards built in to block such intrusions from these hackers.

By: Tarheel McCoy

Tarheel McCoy — Fri, 14 Jan 2011 18:19:39 +0000

I’m sorry, guys, but the reality check has already been written. You’re on notice that third parties are going to record your IP address. It’s not an exploit, unless you call the internet itself an exploit.

The same technology you used to post your silly comments is what these systems are using, and frankly, the Herald is getting much more of an eyeful of your personal information than SL avatar trackers ever will.

By: Yep

Yep — Fri, 14 Jan 2011 17:53:14 +0000

I keep my media off, do not have any quicktime products on my computer and do not allow cookies to be sent to me in SL.
From what I have read, this keeps the spyware from working.
Plus a lot of people that I know in SL avoids sims using this objects since they are nothing more than spybots.

By: Yep

Yep — Fri, 14 Jan 2011 17:41:58 +0000

Go getem Tiger

By: Nelson Jenkins

Nelson Jenkins — Fri, 14 Jan 2011 17:39:07 +0000

@ Belial Fhang

You still don’t prove why zF Redzone and the like are excluded from California law to provide a conspicuously posted privacy policy to site visitors. Most Second Life users never even know zF Redzone is collecting their data and displaying it to their own customers. I would not want someone that hates me to have instant access to every IP address I use to connect to Second Life.

By: Belial Fhang

Belial Fhang — Fri, 14 Jan 2011 03:47:05 +0000

Oh dear (totally facepalming)
rather than read all this obvious claptrap about the way you assume anti copy bot systems work, have you ever stopped to think that if this jerk, Jayd3n, actually knew anything about the law and terms of service then they wouldnt have to come here and spout off about it. You abviously arent a lawyer Jayd3n so why pretend you know what the law is? Its this simple really. The data they use is simply the same as any website collects and also your avatar names are not owned by you they are owned by linden labs and linden labs allows them to be used, yes even your alt names, on 3rd party websites.
just how much of an idiot do you have to be to not realise that if the law were being broken a proper lawyer would have contacted LL by now, possibly their own lawyer. Secondly why not argue about how google and akamai and amazonaws is collecting the exact same data from exactly the same source (your viewer) for commercial purposes? also since the data collected by the anticopybot systems is directed from an inworld server to a website then there needs to be no opt out clause simply because they allow media with no opt out to be played inworld. your ip address is derived from data that must be passed to the media server.
sorry but people who dont research and people who waffle on like they know something when they really dont just get right on my big hairy balls, know what i mean?

By: Nelson Jenkins

Nelson Jenkins — Wed, 01 Dec 2010 18:23:50 +0000

@ Tarheel McCoy Way to be a smartass. Linden Lab's privacy statement does not cover software that uses exploits to obtain your IP address without knowing it, nor does it legally fulfill the requirement that software that takes and stores or distributes your personal information must, by California state law, provide a privacy policy. CDS and RedZone run entirely in the background, taking your information and storing it on their servers against state law without you knowing it's there most of the time. Most Second Life users wouldn't even know anything is going on if they hadn't read up on the news about it, which is entirely off the grid. Second Life does not come with any warning or agreement that if you use its service, other companies may store your personal data. This is against California law, which Second Life falls under as per the TOS.