Comments on: Linden Lab Has No Apparent Business Plan http://alphavilleherald.com/2010/09/linden-lab-has-no-apparent-business-plan.html Always Fairly Unbalanced Tue, 04 Oct 2016 13:18:56 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1 By: Yep http://alphavilleherald.com/2010/09/linden-lab-has-no-apparent-business-plan.html/comment-page-2#comment-67104 Yep Tue, 09 Nov 2010 05:39:12 +0000 http://alphavilleherald.com/?p=4497#comment-67104 @ Nelson You have such a way with words, that's why I like you. :P @ Nelson

You have such a way with words, that’s why I like you. :P

]]> By: Nelson Jenkins http://alphavilleherald.com/2010/09/linden-lab-has-no-apparent-business-plan.html/comment-page-2#comment-67094 Nelson Jenkins Mon, 08 Nov 2010 23:41:41 +0000 http://alphavilleherald.com/?p=4497#comment-67094 @ King Reggin We get it. You're a troll. Bye. @ King Reggin

We get it. You’re a troll. Bye.

]]> By: King Reggin http://alphavilleherald.com/2010/09/linden-lab-has-no-apparent-business-plan.html/comment-page-2#comment-67092 King Reggin Mon, 08 Nov 2010 23:15:30 +0000 http://alphavilleherald.com/?p=4497#comment-67092 Second Life should be shut down, and you fat basement dwellers arrested for wasting our oxygen and food. Second Life should be shut down, and you fat basement dwellers arrested for wasting our oxygen and food.

]]> By: Lady Sakai http://alphavilleherald.com/2010/09/linden-lab-has-no-apparent-business-plan.html/comment-page-2#comment-65418 Lady Sakai Thu, 07 Oct 2010 09:06:26 +0000 http://alphavilleherald.com/?p=4497#comment-65418 Nice article. However there is a few factors that Id like to point out and also put my point of wiew as a SL user / resident. Point one that sprung out was the fact about Teen SL. Yes they are planning to shut Teen SL down but that is only half of the story. Their plan is to merge Teen SL with the Main Grid. Even the 13-15 year olds. Now they do claim (yes claim is the key word here) that they will keep the 13 - 15 year olds away from the main grid by tieing them to educational groups / regions. Now then there is the 16-17 year old. Well apparently they will only be allowed into PG sims / regions. Yes well hmm... ok then ... Now Sl has been promoted (and I use that term lightly ;) ) as a 18+ platform only so how they are gonna pull this off Im almost keen to see if it wasnt for the fact that Im highly oposed to kids in an adult made world. But that is a lenthy debate that I wont pull out here. Business plan? well Philip (Linden) says "Back to basics" so what does that mean exactly and can it be used as a a "Business plan" ? Wel as I see it / understand it (but I could be dead of the mark of course) it bringing SL back to what it was, focussing on stability of the SL grid . Meaning cutting back on the SLE, AVU etc that was pushed forwrd during the M Linden years alianating a LOT of mainstream users (users that poured a LOT of revenue down LL coffers I might ad) LL needs desperatly to clean up their act and get back to basics. Meaning: Stop competing against your users (cut off the ready made region sales, Linden Homes, meddeling with the SLX / SLM just to name a few) Stop with the Buddy buddy favours when it comes to tiers Take a loong hard look at the pricing system in SL when it comes to tier. Other VRs are cheaper and gaining on SL and with Ll changing TOS / policies willy nilly when ever they feel like it and dumping changes on their users with out warning people will leave once they had enough of being dragged around the sceene a few times. Be open about what is going on and keep SL as it was emant to be. A world that Adults(!) can come and socialise across nations and be who ever they want to be. LL should keep this at heart and fix the god damn bugs that has been present since I started (and before) in 2006 Once the grid is stable and even more important scalable then hit the advertisning like never before and people will start comming again cos SL really is a wonder. Another thought I had while writing this is VRs as a feanomena is to smal to be competing against each other. VRs are complex and not something every man can just venture into like the internet. Collaborate and open up the worlds for inter travel between grids. That is the only way to survive IMHO :) Ok rant over, carry on ;) Nice article. However there is a few factors that Id like to point out and also put my point of wiew as a SL user / resident.

Point one that sprung out was the fact about Teen SL. Yes they are planning to shut Teen SL down but that is only half of the story. Their plan is to merge Teen SL with the Main Grid. Even the 13-15 year olds. Now they do claim (yes claim is the key word here) that they will keep the 13 – 15 year olds away from the main grid by tieing them to educational groups / regions. Now then there is the 16-17 year old. Well apparently they will only be allowed into PG sims / regions. Yes well hmm… ok then … Now Sl has been promoted (and I use that term lightly ;) ) as a 18+ platform only so how they are gonna pull this off Im almost keen to see if it wasnt for the fact that Im highly oposed to kids in an adult made world. But that is a lenthy debate that I wont pull out here.

Business plan? well Philip (Linden) says “Back to basics” so what does that mean exactly and can it be used as a a “Business plan” ? Wel as I see it / understand it (but I could be dead of the mark of course) it bringing SL back to what it was, focussing on stability of the SL grid . Meaning cutting back on the SLE, AVU etc that was pushed forwrd during the M Linden years alianating a LOT of mainstream users (users that poured a LOT of revenue down LL coffers I might ad)
LL needs desperatly to clean up their act and get back to basics. Meaning:
Stop competing against your users (cut off the ready made region sales, Linden Homes, meddeling with the SLX / SLM just to name a few)
Stop with the Buddy buddy favours when it comes to tiers
Take a loong hard look at the pricing system in SL when it comes to tier. Other VRs are cheaper and gaining on SL and with Ll changing TOS / policies willy nilly when ever they feel like it and dumping changes on their users with out warning people will leave once they had enough of being dragged around the sceene a few times.
Be open about what is going on and keep SL as it was emant to be. A world that Adults(!) can come and socialise across nations and be who ever they want to be. LL should keep this at heart and fix the god damn bugs that has been present since I started (and before) in 2006
Once the grid is stable and even more important scalable then hit the advertisning like never before and people will start comming again cos SL really is a wonder.

Another thought I had while writing this is VRs as a feanomena is to smal to be competing against each other. VRs are complex and not something every man can just venture into like the internet. Collaborate and open up the worlds for inter travel between grids. That is the only way to survive IMHO :)

Ok rant over, carry on ;)

]]> By: Serendipity Seraph http://alphavilleherald.com/2010/09/linden-lab-has-no-apparent-business-plan.html/comment-page-2#comment-65149 Serendipity Seraph Fri, 01 Oct 2010 10:07:58 +0000 http://alphavilleherald.com/?p=4497#comment-65149 If Microsoft buys Second Life then I am out of here. I am extremely allergic to Microsoft. I think a LOT of people will leave and flood to OpenSim with me - especially if Microsoft tries to tie down the environment to its game platform. Hmm. Maybe time to think more on opening a grid or at least renting out sims. If Microsoft buys Second Life then I am out of here. I am extremely allergic to Microsoft. I think a LOT of people will leave and flood to OpenSim with me – especially if Microsoft tries to tie down the environment to its game platform. Hmm. Maybe time to think more on opening a grid or at least renting out sims.

]]> By: Kinoko http://alphavilleherald.com/2010/09/linden-lab-has-no-apparent-business-plan.html/comment-page-2#comment-65144 Kinoko Fri, 01 Oct 2010 06:54:45 +0000 http://alphavilleherald.com/?p=4497#comment-65144 Yep I wonder if that rumor is true, I know that if Microsoft were buying this software they could do a hell of a lot of improvements security wise to this game, and make it a lot better. I have always used microsoft products, have never had a problem with any microsoft product myself. Yep I wonder if that rumor is true, I know that if Microsoft were buying this software they could do a hell of a lot of improvements security wise to this game, and make it a lot better. I have always used microsoft products, have never had a problem with any microsoft product myself.

]]> By: Gundel Gaukelei http://alphavilleherald.com/2010/09/linden-lab-has-no-apparent-business-plan.html/comment-page-1#comment-65140 Gundel Gaukelei Fri, 01 Oct 2010 04:30:42 +0000 http://alphavilleherald.com/?p=4497#comment-65140 More rumour: h_t_t_p://www.techeye.net/internet/microsoft-to-buy-second-life More rumour:

h_t_t_p://www.techeye.net/internet/microsoft-to-buy-second-life

]]> By: MarkByrn http://alphavilleherald.com/2010/09/linden-lab-has-no-apparent-business-plan.html/comment-page-1#comment-65096 MarkByrn Thu, 30 Sep 2010 11:57:03 +0000 http://alphavilleherald.com/?p=4497#comment-65096 ...Go The Facebook Route?...Linden Lab could build on community-making as a platform. Where Metaplace failed because of an immature economy and a lack of 3-D immersion, Second Life can shine... After Metaplace predictably collapsed, the company was sold to Playdom and two game offerings on Facebook (My Island Life and My Vineyard) are it's legacies. If it were possible to bring SL to Facebook as an app without stripping it down, that would be a smart move; same with making mobile apps for it. …Go The Facebook Route?…Linden Lab could build on community-making as a platform. Where Metaplace failed because of an immature economy and a lack of 3-D immersion, Second Life can shine…

After Metaplace predictably collapsed, the company was sold to Playdom and two game offerings on Facebook (My Island Life and My Vineyard) are it’s legacies. If it were possible to bring SL to Facebook as an app without stripping it down, that would be a smart move; same with making mobile apps for it.

]]> By: Maria Korolov http://alphavilleherald.com/2010/09/linden-lab-has-no-apparent-business-plan.html/comment-page-1#comment-65067 Maria Korolov Thu, 30 Sep 2010 00:09:11 +0000 http://alphavilleherald.com/?p=4497#comment-65067 Yep -- To use the regular Second Life viewer to log into an OpenSim grid, you need to edit the path of its shortcut. I hate doing this -- that's why I use Imprudence and Hippo, but I've had to do this to use SL Viewer 2. I tried to post the info here, but it gets rejected as spam! So I have to direct you to the official OSGrid login page: osgrid.org/docs/instructions.htm Note that OSGrid itself hasn't yet upgraded to the latest version of OpenSim, which supports SLV2 and media-on-a-prim. If you want that, check out German Grid: germangrid.de/frontend/help German Grid has a nice shopping area at Ellis Island, and live music at Folk Cafe. -- Maria Yep –

To use the regular Second Life viewer to log into an OpenSim grid, you need to edit the path of its shortcut. I hate doing this — that’s why I use Imprudence and Hippo, but I’ve had to do this to use SL Viewer 2.

I tried to post the info here, but it gets rejected as spam!

So I have to direct you to the official OSGrid login page: osgrid.org/docs/instructions.htm

Note that OSGrid itself hasn’t yet upgraded to the latest version of OpenSim, which supports SLV2 and media-on-a-prim. If you want that, check out German Grid: germangrid.de/frontend/help

German Grid has a nice shopping area at Ellis Island, and live music at Folk Cafe.

– Maria

]]> By: Aeolus Cleanslate http://alphavilleherald.com/2010/09/linden-lab-has-no-apparent-business-plan.html/comment-page-1#comment-65064 Aeolus Cleanslate Wed, 29 Sep 2010 22:04:31 +0000 http://alphavilleherald.com/?p=4497#comment-65064 "Opensim is NOT a business, NOT a service, NOT an economy. It is a piece of software. That’s all." If Opensim is the equivalent of Apache, then look at it as a car analogy: Apache is never the car, it's just the engine. You don't market "8 cylinders," you market "performance and styling." LL is like Ford was in the early days - it had to manufacture most of its own components in order to produce a model T. When a network of suppliers emerged, it could afford to buy pieces from them and concentrate on integrating them and marketing the finished product. If LL has a business model it's to attract people to use SL as a platform on which to design experiences, which will in turn attract more visitors and content creators to spend money and give LL their cut. It's not a terrible model, and SL doesn't have to "win" or "dominate" anything to make it succeed. Virtual worlds competition isn't a zero-sum game. “Opensim is NOT a business, NOT a service, NOT an economy. It is a piece of software. That’s all.”
If Opensim is the equivalent of Apache, then look at it as a car analogy: Apache is never the car, it’s just the engine. You don’t market “8 cylinders,” you market “performance and styling.” LL is like Ford was in the early days – it had to manufacture most of its own components in order to produce a model T. When a network of suppliers emerged, it could afford to buy pieces from them and concentrate on integrating them and marketing the finished product.

If LL has a business model it’s to attract people to use SL as a platform on which to design experiences, which will in turn attract more visitors and content creators to spend money and give LL their cut. It’s not a terrible model, and SL doesn’t have to “win” or “dominate” anything to make it succeed.

Virtual worlds competition isn’t a zero-sum game.

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