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	<title>Comments on: Linden Lab: We Don&#8217;t Need No Education</title>
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		<title>By: archie</title>
		<link>http://alphavilleherald.com/2010/10/linden-lab-we-dont-need-no-education.html/comment-page-1#comment-65810</link>
		<dc:creator>archie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Oct 2010 23:23:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Its those buggers that give SL some semblance of street cred.

Way to shoot yourselves in the bloody foot guys</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its those buggers that give SL some semblance of street cred.</p>
<p>Way to shoot yourselves in the bloody foot guys</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Bell</title>
		<link>http://alphavilleherald.com/2010/10/linden-lab-we-dont-need-no-education.html/comment-page-1#comment-65482</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Bell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Oct 2010 20:00:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The key question is what Linden Lab have to sell the educational market. What makes them better than just setting up a computer and running a few regions with OpenSim software?

Start with running the server software. There&#039;s some specific sysadmin skill needed. But is the service side of SL good enough to sell?

And then there&#039;s the huge amount of user-created content. Which they don&#039;t want to see copied. (I think I&#039;d better check the terms of service, before I try to distribute any of my creations on OpenSim.) But so much of it is potentially embarrassing to the education market.

This might be an opportunity for somebody to set up a specialised Grid Service for education. It would block out so much of SL which could be a problem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The key question is what Linden Lab have to sell the educational market. What makes them better than just setting up a computer and running a few regions with OpenSim software?</p>
<p>Start with running the server software. There&#8217;s some specific sysadmin skill needed. But is the service side of SL good enough to sell?</p>
<p>And then there&#8217;s the huge amount of user-created content. Which they don&#8217;t want to see copied. (I think I&#8217;d better check the terms of service, before I try to distribute any of my creations on OpenSim.) But so much of it is potentially embarrassing to the education market.</p>
<p>This might be an opportunity for somebody to set up a specialised Grid Service for education. It would block out so much of SL which could be a problem.</p>
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		<title>By: Bubblesort Triskaidekaphobia</title>
		<link>http://alphavilleherald.com/2010/10/linden-lab-we-dont-need-no-education.html/comment-page-1#comment-65437</link>
		<dc:creator>Bubblesort Triskaidekaphobia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Oct 2010 13:47:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ AG:  What are you talking about?  Do I know you?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ AG:  What are you talking about?  Do I know you?</p>
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		<title>By: AG</title>
		<link>http://alphavilleherald.com/2010/10/linden-lab-we-dont-need-no-education.html/comment-page-1#comment-65427</link>
		<dc:creator>AG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Oct 2010 02:32:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Bubblesort - you have a odd way of treating new friends Bubblesnot.  Your SL and sim work may be impressive, but your character is not.  I hope you don&#039;t treat everyone who is kind to you that way, you are in for a bumpy ride.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Bubblesort &#8211; you have a odd way of treating new friends Bubblesnot.  Your SL and sim work may be impressive, but your character is not.  I hope you don&#8217;t treat everyone who is kind to you that way, you are in for a bumpy ride.</p>
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		<title>By: Axel Oakleaf</title>
		<link>http://alphavilleherald.com/2010/10/linden-lab-we-dont-need-no-education.html/comment-page-1#comment-65426</link>
		<dc:creator>Axel Oakleaf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Oct 2010 20:50:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@:We, I know what you mean. One sim i to go to has a university i went to  IRL i keep telling them they need to rent ad banners at various places to get more people to the place,but they never listen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@:We, I know what you mean. One sim i to go to has a university i went to  IRL i keep telling them they need to rent ad banners at various places to get more people to the place,but they never listen.</p>
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		<title>By: Judge Joker</title>
		<link>http://alphavilleherald.com/2010/10/linden-lab-we-dont-need-no-education.html/comment-page-1#comment-65425</link>
		<dc:creator>Judge Joker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Oct 2010 19:36:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Bubblesort Triskaidekaphobia

Use Twitter, it&#039;s been remarkably useful to get 140 characters of anger directed at each one of them, It totally by passes all the ignored tickets and bullshit by employees with no interest in helping you plead your case.

Worked for #EmeraldGate, &amp; works for everything else.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Bubblesort Triskaidekaphobia</p>
<p>Use Twitter, it&#8217;s been remarkably useful to get 140 characters of anger directed at each one of them, It totally by passes all the ignored tickets and bullshit by employees with no interest in helping you plead your case.</p>
<p>Worked for #EmeraldGate, &amp; works for everything else.</p>
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		<title>By: Darien Caldwell</title>
		<link>http://alphavilleherald.com/2010/10/linden-lab-we-dont-need-no-education.html/comment-page-1#comment-65423</link>
		<dc:creator>Darien Caldwell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Oct 2010 15:54:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;we find new sciences every day on the internet, think “LOL COOL TOOL” and use it without thinking.&quot;

It&#039;s the not thinking part that is the problem. A generation of doers with no thought given to what they are doing, and the consequences it will bring.

The rational mind does equal parts of doing and thinking.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;we find new sciences every day on the internet, think “LOL COOL TOOL” and use it without thinking.&#8221;</p>
<p>It&#8217;s the not thinking part that is the problem. A generation of doers with no thought given to what they are doing, and the consequences it will bring.</p>
<p>The rational mind does equal parts of doing and thinking.</p>
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		<title>By: Bubblesort Triskaidekaphobia</title>
		<link>http://alphavilleherald.com/2010/10/linden-lab-we-dont-need-no-education.html/comment-page-1#comment-65420</link>
		<dc:creator>Bubblesort Triskaidekaphobia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Oct 2010 10:23:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I ran into somebody yesterday who had a flip title thingy saying he was protesting the academic price hikes.  I couldn&#039;t help it, I laughed at him.

I didn&#039;t laugh because I disagree with his message, just with the medium he chose to express it with.  I have more to loose from this than most people.  I&#039;ve spent 4 years building and running Whitmyre Island, which is the most trafficked RL university sim in SecondLife (we&#039;ve held that spot for about 3 years now).  I&#039;m at least as mad about it as this guy was.

I just thought it was ridiculous to protest in world.  LL has taught us time and time again that talking to them is like screaming at a deaf person.  It does nothing but make you look stupid.

If we really wanted to seriously protest we would have to take a page from the Liverpool Football Club.

Liverpool FC club owners Tom Hicks and George Gillet are driving their team into the ground and are now running out of money, so they are trying to get financing to avoid bankruptcy (sound familiar?).  The Liverpool fans have these two guys doxed and under surveilance.  Every bank they walk into or call gets spammed with millions of angry emails and letters from Liverpool fans begging the bank to not do business with this guy.  The idea is that if they can&#039;t get financing they will be forced to sell the team.

Here&#039;s an article about the pressure they put on bankers to not deal with Hicks or Gillet:  http://bit.ly/dycog7

How long do you think Rosedale would continue his insanity under pressure like this?  How quickly could SL residents kill whatever takeover Tizzers was talking about if we really cared? (assuming Tizzers was right)

Want to see a video of how angry the Liverpool fans are?  http://bit.ly/ahHObQ

I&#039;m as mad at LL as these fans are at the Liverpool owners.  I&#039;ve spent 4 years building an academic presence in SL, cheer leading and pitching SL to RL profs, administrators and students who don&#039;t see any value in it, getting no help at all from the Lab other than the price cut and now LL cuts me off.  It&#039;s not like I didn&#039;t do anything for the lab in return for that discount.  I had to keep the sim PG and non-commercial in order to keep it.  Do you know how difficult it is to keep a big sandbox PG and non-commercial when your traffic is getting as high as 25k sometimes?  That discount was not free.  I darn well earned that 50% discount, and in doing so I brought more avatars into SL than any of the scheming, sleazy land barons (who are still getting Atlas perks) and got them good press in major regional news papers when Wired wouldn&#039;t acknowledge their existence.  This is the thanks I get.

Anyway, I&#039;m off to open sim where I hope I&#039;ll find a technology that deserves my attention and care.  I&#039;m sure I&#039;ll be seeing the rest of you there in a few months.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I ran into somebody yesterday who had a flip title thingy saying he was protesting the academic price hikes.  I couldn&#8217;t help it, I laughed at him.</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t laugh because I disagree with his message, just with the medium he chose to express it with.  I have more to loose from this than most people.  I&#8217;ve spent 4 years building and running Whitmyre Island, which is the most trafficked RL university sim in SecondLife (we&#8217;ve held that spot for about 3 years now).  I&#8217;m at least as mad about it as this guy was.</p>
<p>I just thought it was ridiculous to protest in world.  LL has taught us time and time again that talking to them is like screaming at a deaf person.  It does nothing but make you look stupid.</p>
<p>If we really wanted to seriously protest we would have to take a page from the Liverpool Football Club.</p>
<p>Liverpool FC club owners Tom Hicks and George Gillet are driving their team into the ground and are now running out of money, so they are trying to get financing to avoid bankruptcy (sound familiar?).  The Liverpool fans have these two guys doxed and under surveilance.  Every bank they walk into or call gets spammed with millions of angry emails and letters from Liverpool fans begging the bank to not do business with this guy.  The idea is that if they can&#8217;t get financing they will be forced to sell the team.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s an article about the pressure they put on bankers to not deal with Hicks or Gillet:  <a href="http://bit.ly/dycog7" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/dycog7</a></p>
<p>How long do you think Rosedale would continue his insanity under pressure like this?  How quickly could SL residents kill whatever takeover Tizzers was talking about if we really cared? (assuming Tizzers was right)</p>
<p>Want to see a video of how angry the Liverpool fans are?  <a href="http://bit.ly/ahHObQ" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/ahHObQ</a></p>
<p>I&#8217;m as mad at LL as these fans are at the Liverpool owners.  I&#8217;ve spent 4 years building an academic presence in SL, cheer leading and pitching SL to RL profs, administrators and students who don&#8217;t see any value in it, getting no help at all from the Lab other than the price cut and now LL cuts me off.  It&#8217;s not like I didn&#8217;t do anything for the lab in return for that discount.  I had to keep the sim PG and non-commercial in order to keep it.  Do you know how difficult it is to keep a big sandbox PG and non-commercial when your traffic is getting as high as 25k sometimes?  That discount was not free.  I darn well earned that 50% discount, and in doing so I brought more avatars into SL than any of the scheming, sleazy land barons (who are still getting Atlas perks) and got them good press in major regional news papers when Wired wouldn&#8217;t acknowledge their existence.  This is the thanks I get.</p>
<p>Anyway, I&#8217;m off to open sim where I hope I&#8217;ll find a technology that deserves my attention and care.  I&#8217;m sure I&#8217;ll be seeing the rest of you there in a few months.</p>
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		<title>By: At0m0 Beerbaum</title>
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		<dc:creator>At0m0 Beerbaum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Oct 2010 06:34:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Education in SL was a joke anyway.

The only educational campus worth visiting was woodbury.

Yes I did learn things there, such as how it feels to be subjected to tyrannical rule (Linden Labs) and to fear that you&#039;ll lose everything on a whim.

LL wasnt making shit from schools, or rather, as much as they wished for.

Most bean counters will notice the increase and be like &quot;wait we were paying for that? wow didnt notice!&quot; and yank the funding and the sims go bye bye.

LL just killed another stable revenue stream. good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Education in SL was a joke anyway.</p>
<p>The only educational campus worth visiting was woodbury.</p>
<p>Yes I did learn things there, such as how it feels to be subjected to tyrannical rule (Linden Labs) and to fear that you&#8217;ll lose everything on a whim.</p>
<p>LL wasnt making shit from schools, or rather, as much as they wished for.</p>
<p>Most bean counters will notice the increase and be like &#8220;wait we were paying for that? wow didnt notice!&#8221; and yank the funding and the sims go bye bye.</p>
<p>LL just killed another stable revenue stream. good.</p>
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		<title>By: General Drama</title>
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		<dc:creator>General Drama</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Oct 2010 02:55:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I see Aminom&#039;s ego hasn&#039;t suffered at all in the recent downturn. Keep it up, there is no limit to the number of morons you can impress if your bullshit is self consistent like Aminom&#039;s is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see Aminom&#8217;s ego hasn&#8217;t suffered at all in the recent downturn. Keep it up, there is no limit to the number of morons you can impress if your bullshit is self consistent like Aminom&#8217;s is.</p>
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