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	<title>Comments on: SLCC 2011 Drama!!! Avatar Identity: Privacy and Transparency in Social Media</title>
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		<title>By: Senban Babii</title>
		<link>http://alphavilleherald.com/2011/09/slcc-2011-drama-avatar-identity-privacy-and-transparency-in-social-media.html/comment-page-2#comment-76093</link>
		<dc:creator>Senban Babii</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Sep 2011 09:29:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Hiro Pendragon
&quot;Explaining it in the bio was indeed relevant, however, it needn’t&#039;ve been done in a manner that specifically mentions someone. It could have just as easily been written in a manner that described the background without mentioning anyone specifically.&quot;

Okay I can understand this but then I have a question.  If this was genuinely an issue, how did the offending text make it into print in the first place?  There&#039;s only two real options.

One, the text slipped past unnoticed, in which case the fault is entirely the fault of the organisers for not checking and discussing what was being published.

Two, the text was originally considered acceptable and went to print but it was only subsequently that someone was pressured into removing it.

Personally my money is still on LL trying to cover up the fact in official literature that all is not sweetness and light in eUtopia.  Pix&#039;s wording was slightly inflammatory but factual.  A simple edit pre-publication would have cleared up any inflammatory tone while still allowing the facts to stand.  Even a post-publication rewrite to remove any inflammatory tone could have left the facts intact.  Which means it was the facts themselves that people didn&#039;t want published (and they were skated over in the panel too of course).  And as those facts *were* initially published, we&#039;re forced to return to the two options above.  Either the organisation&#039;s editors/proof readers need a poke with a stick or the organisation came under pressure (internal or external or potentially both) to remove the facts.

Now, let&#039;s go further.  The video itself which should have been broadcast live was recorded and broadcast later.  Why?  Well given the above discussion I&#039;d actually say it&#039;s pretty obvious.  If something goes out live, there is no chance for edit or review.  It&#039;s pretty clear that the video was handled the way it was so as to make sure that no comments went out that weren&#039;t &quot;on message&quot;.

All that aside though, the panel was very enjoyable and thought-provoking, good job.  I found Pix&#039;s comment about if you want privacy on the internet the only way forward is to lie your ass off to be particularly relevant because as I was saying last night on Skype, any information I reveal online is a managed misinformation screen.  That way, it&#039;s impossible to judge me on my identity and only possible to judge me on the merits of my arguments and I think that&#039;s the real value of anonymity/pseudonymity.  In fact to quote a certain popular film:

&quot;It&#039;s not who you are underneath.  It&#039;s what you do that defines you&quot;
Rachel Dawes

Isn&#039;t it strange how as a culture we can accept this concept through mythology and literature and yet we struggle with it in application?

And to forestall your next question, I cheerfully accept your invitation to appear on next year&#039;s panel :P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Hiro Pendragon<br />
&#8220;Explaining it in the bio was indeed relevant, however, it needn’t&#8217;ve been done in a manner that specifically mentions someone. It could have just as easily been written in a manner that described the background without mentioning anyone specifically.&#8221;</p>
<p>Okay I can understand this but then I have a question.  If this was genuinely an issue, how did the offending text make it into print in the first place?  There&#8217;s only two real options.</p>
<p>One, the text slipped past unnoticed, in which case the fault is entirely the fault of the organisers for not checking and discussing what was being published.</p>
<p>Two, the text was originally considered acceptable and went to print but it was only subsequently that someone was pressured into removing it.</p>
<p>Personally my money is still on LL trying to cover up the fact in official literature that all is not sweetness and light in eUtopia.  Pix&#8217;s wording was slightly inflammatory but factual.  A simple edit pre-publication would have cleared up any inflammatory tone while still allowing the facts to stand.  Even a post-publication rewrite to remove any inflammatory tone could have left the facts intact.  Which means it was the facts themselves that people didn&#8217;t want published (and they were skated over in the panel too of course).  And as those facts *were* initially published, we&#8217;re forced to return to the two options above.  Either the organisation&#8217;s editors/proof readers need a poke with a stick or the organisation came under pressure (internal or external or potentially both) to remove the facts.</p>
<p>Now, let&#8217;s go further.  The video itself which should have been broadcast live was recorded and broadcast later.  Why?  Well given the above discussion I&#8217;d actually say it&#8217;s pretty obvious.  If something goes out live, there is no chance for edit or review.  It&#8217;s pretty clear that the video was handled the way it was so as to make sure that no comments went out that weren&#8217;t &#8220;on message&#8221;.</p>
<p>All that aside though, the panel was very enjoyable and thought-provoking, good job.  I found Pix&#8217;s comment about if you want privacy on the internet the only way forward is to lie your ass off to be particularly relevant because as I was saying last night on Skype, any information I reveal online is a managed misinformation screen.  That way, it&#8217;s impossible to judge me on my identity and only possible to judge me on the merits of my arguments and I think that&#8217;s the real value of anonymity/pseudonymity.  In fact to quote a certain popular film:</p>
<p>&#8220;It&#8217;s not who you are underneath.  It&#8217;s what you do that defines you&#8221;<br />
Rachel Dawes</p>
<p>Isn&#8217;t it strange how as a culture we can accept this concept through mythology and literature and yet we struggle with it in application?</p>
<p>And to forestall your next question, I cheerfully accept your invitation to appear on next year&#8217;s panel <img src='http://alphavilleherald.com/site/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: hobo kelly</title>
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		<dc:creator>hobo kelly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Sep 2011 06:52:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hmm, so Hiro is a little miffed at Pixeleen for the ripped out pages and the loss of the live streaming feed and the surrounding SLCC drama. Well well.  This was another LL hit operation carefully and finely engineered by Pixeleen to force LL back into a corner where LL would either have to tolerate the JLU wiki story going mainstream within the pages of the SLCC handouts, or expose their connections to the JLU by having those pages ripped out at the last minute. BRILLIANT. Pix and Uri, i would go surfing with you guys any old time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hmm, so Hiro is a little miffed at Pixeleen for the ripped out pages and the loss of the live streaming feed and the surrounding SLCC drama. Well well.  This was another LL hit operation carefully and finely engineered by Pixeleen to force LL back into a corner where LL would either have to tolerate the JLU wiki story going mainstream within the pages of the SLCC handouts, or expose their connections to the JLU by having those pages ripped out at the last minute. BRILLIANT. Pix and Uri, i would go surfing with you guys any old time.</p>
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		<title>By: IntLibber</title>
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		<dc:creator>IntLibber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Sep 2011 04:59:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hiro, you know that I know that you know that I know that LL is completely full of crap on this and a number of other issues.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hiro, you know that I know that you know that I know that LL is completely full of crap on this and a number of other issues.</p>
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		<title>By: Hiro Pendragon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hiro Pendragon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Sep 2011 04:25:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Intlibber: &quot;so the entire reason for Mark to be on the panel was that he was legally forced to disclose his RL name in order to file his DMCA appeal against Kalel Venkman’s false and illegal filings. &quot;

Actually, no, it&#039;s because Pixeleen is extremely intelligent, well versed in the matters, and can express herself very well. If anything, perhaps Pixeleen&#039;s experience with JLU was one motivation to choose to be on the panel. However, I chose panelists who had compelling thoughts to share.

Explaining it in the bio was indeed relevant, however, it needn&#039;t&#039;ve been done in a manner that specifically mentions someone. It could have just as easily been written in a manner that described the background without mentioning anyone specifically.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Intlibber: &#8220;so the entire reason for Mark to be on the panel was that he was legally forced to disclose his RL name in order to file his DMCA appeal against Kalel Venkman’s false and illegal filings. &#8221;</p>
<p>Actually, no, it&#8217;s because Pixeleen is extremely intelligent, well versed in the matters, and can express herself very well. If anything, perhaps Pixeleen&#8217;s experience with JLU was one motivation to choose to be on the panel. However, I chose panelists who had compelling thoughts to share.</p>
<p>Explaining it in the bio was indeed relevant, however, it needn&#8217;t've been done in a manner that specifically mentions someone. It could have just as easily been written in a manner that described the background without mentioning anyone specifically.</p>
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		<title>By: Imnotgoing Sideways</title>
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		<dc:creator>Imnotgoing Sideways</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Sep 2011 19:21:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mkay!  Chatlog up. =^-^=

TL/DR - Chatlog from August 14, 2008 SLCC http://goo.gl/SPjSG

Yes, as a matter of fact I&#039;m quite lazy. (._.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mkay!  Chatlog up. =^-^=</p>
<p>TL/DR &#8211; Chatlog from August 14, 2008 SLCC <a href="http://goo.gl/SPjSG" rel="nofollow">http://goo.gl/SPjSG</a></p>
<p>Yes, as a matter of fact I&#8217;m quite lazy. (._.)</p>
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		<title>By: Myrrh Massiel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Myrrh Massiel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Sep 2011 04:01:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...great panel, pixie - speaking as someone who moved on for many of the single-source-platform identity and control issues raised herein, it&#039;s both refreshing to see that erudite discourse persists amongst the extant community, while simultaneously disheartening to see the platform&#039;s jurisdictional flaws continue to quash that same community&#039;s endeavours...

...thanks for sharing!..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;great panel, pixie &#8211; speaking as someone who moved on for many of the single-source-platform identity and control issues raised herein, it&#8217;s both refreshing to see that erudite discourse persists amongst the extant community, while simultaneously disheartening to see the platform&#8217;s jurisdictional flaws continue to quash that same community&#8217;s endeavours&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230;thanks for sharing!..</p>
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		<title>By: Yep</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yep</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Sep 2011 20:17:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LOL good one Senban :P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL good one Senban <img src='http://alphavilleherald.com/site/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Senban Babii</title>
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		<dc:creator>Senban Babii</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Sep 2011 20:02:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@GLE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SrjMkeXGfGM&amp;NR=1</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@GLE</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SrjMkeXGfGM&#038;NR=1" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SrjMkeXGfGM&#038;NR=1</a></p>
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		<title>By: Senban Babii</title>
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		<dc:creator>Senban Babii</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Sep 2011 19:59:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Go getem Yep :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMxH7JLVdhc&amp;NR=1</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Go getem Yep <img src='http://alphavilleherald.com/site/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMxH7JLVdhc&#038;NR=1" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMxH7JLVdhc&#038;NR=1</a></p>
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		<title>By: potosi abonwood</title>
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		<dc:creator>potosi abonwood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Sep 2011 19:57:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@GLE 

So the woodbury crowd should get some of the JLU members who were there following them around all over the place in trouble?  Sounds like a good call to me!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@GLE </p>
<p>So the woodbury crowd should get some of the JLU members who were there following them around all over the place in trouble?  Sounds like a good call to me!</p>
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