If someone tries to cause trouble on my land, I know full well how to deal with it. I can eject and ban him/her and there are also abuse reports. I have every right to do so, I have used these tools and they were pretty damn effective. I can also set specific permissions for my land (object entry and creation, script running etc) and I have full privileges to manage my land in any way I see fit.

This means, of course, that I have no need whatsoever for vigilantes that act in the same disruptive way as the members of that Greek “political party” named “Golden Dawn“. Because that’s the only parallel that can be currently drawn between the JLU and anything in RL.

Personally, I have a ban list that not only includes the griefers and trolls I’ve encountered in SL, but also all vigilantes that basically peddle “protection”, regardless of how they choose to name their groups.

“Zombie wars – the last poor souls trapped in the forsaken realm of Stalelife fighting each other over nothing.”

Did you fail your biology class? is that why you can only make comparisons through ‘brain dead’ popular culture?

I like zombie culture too but I’d not compare residents wishing to save an old creative platform from the hand of it’s aging master to that, if anything Linden Lab is a master whom whips and beats it’s slaves while systematically abusing anyone who does something for it or through it for it’s own financial gain, read a book though preferably not the book of the dead.

We’ve seen time and time again that Linden Lab will take what it wants from you, your ideas, creativity and life and repack it for what ever purpose, just look at what Plexus did for Kalel by taking someones objects that Kalel was envious of and redistributing them in the JLU’s hands, which is almost like some kind of payoff and is a total abuse of power on Plexus Lindens side before we even get close to all the stuff he did after that.

But what can you do when the TOS is on their side and they don’t care about you, copyright or what you’ve invested? and just left people like Kalel to run wild without oversight or with secret oversight that breeds the behavior and never wishes to own up to it’s mistakes, even now Plexus wont admit he made mistakes even when he went to visit Prokofy and got branded a griefer or some shit, he didn’t feel ‘silly’ it’s like hes in total denial or he just don’t give a fuck.

So just because your interest or life is over on the Linden Lab platform that does not mean it’s the same for everyone else, I’m semi over as I’m swaying into Opensim in order to finish my ideas in my own time and move on, I still love the concept of the platform it’s something I’ve grown with and it’s not something I would put away just like other games / software sticks with me it’s a part of my life that helps me visualize and create.

Also mesh is one step towards keeping upto date with the wider experiences the next generation expects, however it’s long over due for Linden Lab to remake Second Life completely, I’ve played better MMOs that have rebuilt the game / environment to keep up with what people expect and LL is far behind the next generations culture, adding patch and mod after patch and mod is not going to save Second Life only a full rebuild and port / tie in / onto a platform like xbox or ps3-4 will keep it alive for longer.

Second Life should have aimed for the DLC where you download it to your ps3 and get to keep it regardless of what grid you travel on or weather you get banned from Linden Labs grid, it would have reduced the loading lag tremendously and opened the environment up to better development where Linden Lab could have ran the servers in the cloud as an on demand service with multiples thereof and getting revenue from those who buy premium for sub environments / games on the platform.

If they’re running that kind of system, then there’s no reason why some content could not be shared with your friends list, but encrypted in such a way that it’s only used to speed up seeing your friends avatars when you join a Linden hosted environment.

If they can rename resident accounts by hiding it, then it’s nothing to rename a sim as if you’re on the primary and just list them as their uuids in the code.

Though remaking it doesn’t always work, I know because I used to play RO and people hated it when it went 3D from 2D sprites it lost the character that we’d grown up with, but I’ve no doubt the next generation enjoyed it somewhat but it was not the success it could have been, either it was badly timed or it wrecked the style and people could not covert themselves, just like how Linden Lab wrecked the viewer and residents could not convert themselves over to the new style.

New generations come after you that’s the concept of ‘life’ that which wishes to experience and learn what you did but through their generations perspective and right now they want mobile games and console / ipad things.

So you’re right on stalelife upto a point because they’ve not really kept up with technology regardless of what they’ve added it’s still lags and it’s architecture is made so that can’t scale just like Valve fucked up with the free to play TF2 by not upgrading and investing in the VAC servers, so people get kicked from games because the security / asset / item servers are full of freemium noobs trying to connect.

So once again an environment is supposed to appeal to the next generation therefor ‘life’ continues on / with in the service but Linden Lab is failing to retain new generations, I believe the teen merger was a marker for their desperation of retaining a younger audience those who might have more liquid capital because they truly do live at their parents home but also might work.

One other primary issue has always been selfishness and egos, many residents try to peak and become FIC’s etc because they see others doing the same, but put nothing back to help the next generation grow or learn from them, many residents try to help but when they find out those above them are complete assholes who abuse the power of speech / perspective like Prokofy they inherently give up.

I’ve come to learn Woodbury and others like TWH has been more about pointing out the selfish hypocrites / violators of peoples privacy and just plan removing that shell people build around themselves so as not to have to put anything back into the platform other than the shit they spew through it for their own egos than in any way true griefing.

Now I’m sure they might have done something at some point but I’ve been watching a while, what I don’t know I can’t obviously say but my perspective is that Kalel and Linden Lab did them wrong and wont own up to it because they have no path to accountability and are scared shitless of legal reputations.

So those that brand them as such are likely the true social griefers who abuse others for their own gain, be that power, ego, wealth.

And further on the path concept lets not forget Linden Lab has never given a path, people are people and they expect a class system to follow like all other environments provide a progression but that doesn’t need to be a leveling system, just a job guide / path and a way to show off things they themselves consider an achievement..

Even if the goals are not specified the jobs should be laid out and your accounts should state you’re a specific profession not just in text you add yourself, which is one reason why some bad / lazy people became mentors for the title and the title alone just like Kalel who became one to abuse it and use it to get close to Lindens.

Now lets take a look at the company that owns and operates the game we all love hate, Second Life. Linden Lab is your typical Company, the Let hand does not care what the Right hand is doing, all that really matters to Phil Rosedale is the financial department of his virtual reality. Linden Reasurch inc. based in The City of London, which is known to be the place where ALL Large companies set up when they wish to be sheltered from Tax laws in the United states including such other criminal enterprises as De’ Beers, the Diamon People.

Knowing that fact one can easily see that the only thing that matters to Linden Lab, and it’s creator Phil Rosedale is what just abut every company in the world cares about, PROFIT. I have been on SL for the better part of 5 years, and one trend I have noticed with SL is that if you spend enough $USD onthe game, Linden Lab basicly lets you do anything you want, including using a third party website to harvest and exploit it’s users prifate information and Payment methods.

So is it any suprize to anyone here that Linden lab has let the JLU connintinue thier mall cop antics just so far as Kalel Venkman keeps sending Linden Research his allowance?

Now there you go again proving me right. Thank you.

You are again throwing vague accusations around that you can’t support… What a surprise… Its almost like you write for Krypton Radio or something

Whats worse is that you are trying to use this to justify for the actions of the JLU.

There is NO justification.

‘Lets look at Nexus and all with his little website where he had posted all the JLU members and other people who they felt they could harrass’s Address and Personal Information on the web’

Are you referring to TheList pages? If so it wasn’t N3X15. If not what are you talking about?

‘Thats why Tux and Don’t spill and others still comment on these things and call other people stupid or Noobs when some one says they haven’t has issues with the JLU.’

IMO a noob is someone who does not know how the game works, how to set up the software, and/or does not correctly spec their equipment for the application. It has absolutely nothing to do with the JLU. I was highlighting the fact that the JLU are exploiting these people. Thus justifying their reason to appease their fetish and wear lycra (albeit virtual) whilst collecting their data. Which by the way hasn’t stopped. I had hoped that they might have learnt something this time, but no the wiki is still there and still being updated (which is more than can be said for their security).

I have no doubt another leak will come this year (assuming it has not been done already).

‘Its the same deal here with everyone up in arms wanting to know who I am.’

Some of us already know, we just don’t care.

JD, are you Ok today? Your writing quality has degraded somewhat from the norm. I would hate to think something is wrong. Keep you chin up and carry on regardless, you are doing wonders for googles revised ranking system. You’ll keep this story current for ages.

“The Pink Hands is a Joke since several of their members support Documentig of others just as the JLU and then some of their members also support griefing.”

“Also your a poster over on SLU you know JN and others Document and Find out all they can about people.”

@ James Doh — are you high?

“maliciously than anyone else.”
Wow you are so far off base on that.
SLU owner and his Buddy JN have done this type of things more Maliciously than the JLU ever has. Little owner boy over on SLU forums allows JN to get ahold of people IP address’s and then they can track down people they don’t like and harrrass them. All the time while they cry they are being the ones harrassed.
Seriously you need to open your eyes up a bit more beyond the JLU.
Lets look at Nexus and all with his little website where he had posted all the JLU members and other people who they felt they could harrass’s Address and Personal Information on the web. Sorry I can not believe you people are so narrow visioned to not see that others are just as bad as the JLU and sometimes worse.
There are pages of that over in the SLU forums and you know what makes that worse. Its all done on an open forum where the “owner” says no personal info is to be shown or linked to Unless its done by JN.
Then there were pages and pages of things on Zfire and all his personal info and people looking for his criminal records. All these things are done for malicious intent.

@Potosi,
Yes Nexus starts giving advice on how to protect from griefers when the JLU out played him. So he can look like the good guy that he was the victim. Funny thing is he isn’t in SL anymore is he? He plays on Opensim now.
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These supposed Pink Hands, TWH and all these other groups who support actuall griefers all attack the JLU because the JLU out played them all. Thats why Tux and Don’t spill and others still comment on these things and call other people stupid or Noobs when some one says they haven’t has issues with the JLU.
The Pink Hands is a Joke since several of their members support Documentig of others just as the JLU and then some of their members also support griefing. TWH well they do still grief.

@Innula Zenovka
Please I have been in many “large sims” And sims that have forums guess what the private areas of these forums the owners share lots of stuff. Now just because i know a couple do it and you don’t doesn’t make everyone do it, But it also doesn’t make that others don’t. I would bet a good percentage do keep records.
Please lets have these JLU hackers start hacking other Groups forums so we all can laugh about the Inworld chats that people have.
Also your a poster over on SLU you know JN and others Document and Find out all they can about people.
Its the same deal here with everyone up in arms wanting to know who I am. Bunch of cry babies who Must know who you are so they can harrass you and document you.

For all these people who say I am obssess over this still they love to keep coming back and posting don’t they?

Please stop trying to put words in my mouth like you do everyone else.