Patrice Cournoyer – Post 6 Grrrl
by Pixeleen Mistral on 19/01/07 at 9:50 pm
[Editor’s note: One of my best friends in SL is Marilyn Murphy, the photographer/visionary behind Players, SL’s in-world erotica magazine. At this point, Marilyn really knows how to get my attention - so when she said “Pixie - you HAVE to see Patrice, she will rock your world” I dropped everything and - OMG - was Marilyn ever right.]
I am very happy that Marilyn asked me to do this shoot, and very flattered. My body was made and modified for me by Kalyrra Heart, and my skin was specially made by my SL pal and sis, Govindira Galatea.
I am a happily married lesbian, in Second Life, to ma belle femme, Véronique Lalonde. We live on a beautiful beach in Iron Fist, with great neighbours.
I work as a terraformer, making Second Life look more beautiful. I have a blog at http://patricesterraforming.blogspot.com. When I get on that bulldozer, well, let’s just say that more than the engine gets warm.
I love swimming, skydiving, and socializing and dancing at my local club, the Velvet.
Looky Lu
Jan 19th, 2007
Yow! No disrespect to any others, but….damn! Best Post 6 Grrrl ever! Gotta love the skinny girls! And the green eyes!
(I’ll end this before I run out of exclamation points.)
Mischief Fairymeadow
Jan 20th, 2007
wow, wow and double WOW
There’d be a lot of exclamation marks there – but Looky used them up.
Prokofy Neva
Jan 20th, 2007
I boycott Kalyrra Heart and I urge others to do so. Whatever her artistic ability with skins, she puts up ugly signs everywhere on 16m2 parcels all over the mainland, where she doesn’t live or have a store, and sets them to an extortionist $9995 for sale, in order to capitalize on people’s need to buy back their view from her ugly defacement of sims. I don’t care about the fuck-you hedonistic that says, “Oh, it’s my land, I can do WTF I want to on it.” So somebody on 16m2 gets to hijack a sim, extort others and devalue their land? Why? That’s not freedom, it’s crime.
This kind of 16m2 land extortion and aggressive advertising should get the greatest resistance in SL, and I’m here to give it. Join me in boycotting all those who use this evil, selfish tactic in SL and don’t buy from Body by Kalyrra Heart until she takes down her ugly signs and puts the land for sale at a normal market price.
Alice McConnell
Jan 20th, 2007
@ Mischief: Yeah yeah…
@ Patrice: You look hot, smart and sweet, all the things you are.
marilyn murphy
Jan 21st, 2007
i agree with you prok. that sort of land extortion is ugly.
im sorry it came up as an issue in patrice’ spread, but i think it needs to be pointed out wherever it comes up.
Prokofy Neva
Jan 21st, 2007
Marilyn, like I said, her skin skills are not the issue, the girl is hot, it’s all good, but she shouldn’t then advertise her beautiful skins by making all of our sims ugly on the mainland. This stuff really has got to stop. We have to take a stand.
Looky Lu
Jan 21st, 2007
Ummm…..if you read closely (and I’ll admit that the pictures do tend to take your mind off the text…) you’ll find that the –body– is by the apparently-heinous Kalyrra Heart, Patrice’s skin is by Govindira Galatea.
parker
Jan 25th, 2007
skinny lesbo skank!
haha, just kidding. beautiful pictures patrice, you wear a hardhat well
Seola Sassoon
Jan 25th, 2007
When you’re a P6G, you get judged mostly on looks frankly… I don’t see the attraction. The lips are incredibly out of proportion to me, they look like Hollywood Botox gone wrong.
The hips (and rear from what I can see) are horrifically out of proportion to the waist (actually upon looking a bit more, the waist is just horridly out of proportion for every thing else – the head, the arms, the legs and it makes the breasts look awkward as well), and the chin is awkwardly pointed and the ears are VERY tiny for a face like that.
The article didn’t really say ‘much’ except a lot of plugs….. actually, shouldn’t this be listed as an advert?
marilyn murphy
Jan 25th, 2007
hi seola:
well, see, its like this. do we want to only have barbie dolls here? cannot we celebrate the differences available to us in our avatars appearance?
i think perhaps you are being rather harsh. in still pictures you can tear anyones avatar to pieces in this fashion. mine would certainly not survive such a scrutiny.
post sixx is an opportunity for women to model and talk about their second lives. what they choose to say is up to them. this ladies second life is discussed and i see only two sentences that talk about her work here and or blog.
blink now and then.
Seola Sassoon
Jan 25th, 2007
“”do we want to only have barbie dolls here”"”
“”post sixx is an opportunity for women to model “”"
When you open yourself up to ‘modeling’, you are scrutinized on appearance. I’m not ‘not’ celebrating differences, but calling it how I see it. It’s a human avatar that doesn’t look human at all. Not to mention, obviously Pix puts the emphasis on the looks. Ironically, you aren’t blasting those who are complimenting on looks but not saying anything about the article… comments only okay for naked posing models when they are good? Are you seriously telling me that a ‘model’ posing naked isn’t open to scrutiny on thier looks?
“”"i see only two sentences that talk about her work here and or blog”"”
Maybe you should read, I didn’t say she mentioned her business tons of times, I mentioned PLUGS.
“”My body..Kalyrra Heart”"
“”my skin..Govindira Galatea”"
“”We live.. Iron Fist”"
“”I have..http://patricesterraforming.blogspot.com“”
“”my local club, the Velvet”"
In fact, I only see two sentences without a plug:
“”I am very happy that Marilyn asked me to do this shoot, and very flattered.”"”
“”When I get on that bulldozer, well, let’s just say that more than the engine gets warm.”"
Aside from getting in a frenzy over terraforming, what has she brought to the table?
“”swimming, skydiving…”"
She mentions SL after that so is it in SL? RL? She a saucy German? Irish? Scottish? Chinese? Does she do terraforming for others? How long with the wifey? How long in SL? Anything for god’s sakes, all we got was a badly shaped av and a bunch of names….
Veronique Lalonde
Jan 25th, 2007
Hello, Seola. “Wifey” here. (Wifey? Ye gods, what century is this?)
I’ve been debating whether to weigh in on this series of comments. It might be a mistake for me to do so, but y’know, fools rush in etc.
You don’t care for Patrice’s body. Fine. A particular body type will be attractive to certain people and unattractive to others. As well, anyone’s body can be criticized on certain points. For one thing, SL shape rendering isn’t really good enough yet, and just as in RL, no SL shape is perfectly proportioned for everyone’s taste. But “doesn’t look human at all”? You undercut your credibility as a critic with such a foolishly extreme comment.
One thing I really like about Patrice’s shape is what you call “Hollywood Botox gone wrong.” There is nothing out-of-proportion about her lips. I wish I knew how to make my own lips more three-dimensional. Maybe you prefer the flat lips that seems to occur frequently in SL. As well, Patrice’s mouth is slightly open. Again, that’s unusual in SL, where we all seem to have our lips pursed.
As for what Patrice wrote, I’ve noticed that Post Sixx write-ups are all different. Models reveal more or less information and different kinds of information as they choose. It’s clear to me that what she wrote is about SL, since that’s mentioned three times.
Patrice has an SL terraforming business, something that also seems pretty clear. Although it’s a fairly new business, it’s thriving. She is highly skilled — and has the portfolio to back it up (see her blog, with links to stills and video of her work) — loves her work, and is getting one referral after another. Exaggerated indignation does not equal a critique. A “frenzy”? Because of a tongue-in-cheek comment about the joys of riding a bulldozer?
Some of what you call “plugs” seem to me rather to be credit where credit is due (or perhaps blame where blame is due, if that’s your opinion). The blog is directly related to terraforming. It’s not even a place to plug the business. It’s where she explains how she does what she does — giving away information for free. Iron Fist is simply the name of the sim on which we live — no plug there — and the Velvet just happens to be where we hang out. Not supposed to mention that?
I just don’t see the kinds of details you’re looking for in other Post Sixx write-ups. Can you point me to some? If someone says she’s an escort, is that not a plug? But since you seem so breathlessly unsatisfied with this particular spread, for reasons unknown, I’ll give you this: Patrice and I have been married for three and a half months.
Seola Sassoon
Jan 25th, 2007
Interesting, do you always do her bidding? Is that why she’s doesn’t speak much? You told us more about her in one paragraph than she did for the article.
I’m talking about the overabundance of upper lip ratio in the upper center top lip, versus the large lower lip. But of course, you undercut your credibility to remain unbiased because of your extremely foolish comment (and the fact you know her personally). She could be a doll, but that certainly doesn’t come out in this post, nor by the poses she chose, nor by the skin or shape. Am I supposed to sit her and say how wonderful she is when there’s absolutely nothing about her as a person?
Amazing, you, just like Marilyn only accept positive happy go cheery criticisms because… why is that again? Because a person doesn’t agree that someone is totally hot and sexy and to drool over, that means I’m wrong? No one’s wrong, it’s one’s opinion.
I mentioned plufs because there’s absolutely NOTHING to go with the info… aside from a bad shape… what else is there? Oh she likes to terraform? That doesn’t make one intriguing.
I guess you haven’t read the Herald until your ‘wifey’ was pictured.
In fact the one before her, Amnetia:
http://www.secondlifeherald.com/slh/2007/01/animetia_bellma.html
(In case you need it)
Not one mention of a company, plenty about her SL life and who she is, and lips that certainly don’t look like a blotch of lipstick was put on it in the center. Also her arms aren’t, by looks alone of course, around a size 12-14 with a size 3 waist. There was more about her in one paragraph than the whole thing for Patrice.
P6G before that? Sarah Louise:
http://www.secondlifeherald.com/slh/2007/01/sarahlouise_ell.html
Same thing, more info about her in one paragraph than we got of this watered down naming session. Again, thin arms, with the waist proportion.
P6G before that? Alex Fitzsimmons:
http://www.secondlifeherald.com/slh/2006/12/alex_fitzsimmon.html
Not only incredibly good looking AND in proportion, but also a VERY nice long info set about her, her life, her thoughts and feelings. Which by the way, got TONS of comments about the insights she had.
Do you want me to keep going? I can link you almost every single P6G who has been here since I’ve started reading, that had SOME sort of substance in the info, SOMETHING to make you want to like her outside of some nudie pics (which as I said, aren’t that appealing because of what I see as a bad shape job and/or skin ((both contributes to the lips)))
And don’t try to explain it away as ‘what SL looks like’. I know plenty of what it does and doesn’t do and I know that it doesn’t give those kinds of dimensions without human/user doing it.
“”"”and the Velvet just happens to be where we hang out. Not supposed to mention that?”"”"
Then you need to check her write ups for her. She said it was HER (see: MY) local club. A mention alone is fine, but there was ZERO in the article except a lot of names and places. How do we know you don’t know the sim owner, or don’t own it. Who really puts the sim they live in out there for the world to see? They expect visitors? I mean, this is SL and griefing is daily… it wasn’t smart in the first place, so the only thing I can think of is a plug for someone.
If all that she mentioned was mentioned in SOME sort of context with SOMETHING to go with it besides a bunch of names… then it would seem like we are getting to know her SL. But as it is, we know she terraforms, and dances at a club.
Caroline Huygens
Jan 25th, 2007
Just a picture of a sweet sexy lesbian. What a breath of fresh air. Can’t believe anyone would make more of it. What satisfaction to be had from tearing a person down. Hmmm.. reminds me of griefers without conscience… detrimental to be around for everybody… generates only bad feelings…
I for one am happy to know where to get skin and body when I need a makeover..
Urizenus
Jan 25th, 2007
All I know is that I have yet another fetish because of this. Is there a chix in toolbelts pron site somewhere?
Patrice Cournoyer
Jan 25th, 2007
Seola, obviously, you find me unattractive.
I don’t know why you felt the need to get into a detailed analysis of what you feel are flaws in my appearance. I can tell you, it is very painful to have a critique like your one, of my avi, posted. I hope it never happens to you.
I am a grown up woman, and I know my look is different from some other post sixx girls. I was surprised that Marilyn wanted to photograph me, and that the Herald wanted to publish me. I was happy with the results, though. The way I look is the way I look.
About promoting my work and friends, yes, I did, I think that is pretty normal for a pinup “about me”.
Most of the questions you ask about my nationality, marriage eetc. you could have found out, by reading my profile, which I assumed second lifers would do,if they were interested. Most of the information is on my blog as well, for non Second Lifers who are interested.
marilyn murphy
Jan 25th, 2007
seola:
this is an open invitation. you can present your avatar as a post sixx girl two weeks from now.
contact me.
Veronique Lalonde
Jan 26th, 2007
Seola:
Of course I’m biased. Patrice is the love of my Second Life. At least I’m not biased against people who don’t fit into my particular aesthetic. And isn’t it interesting that, biased as I am, I could post a calm, rational reply to your overheated posts. Two, in fact.
I’d hate to think this is a Barbie thing, where you feel you have the right, maybe even some misguided duty, to criticize those whose appearance does not meet your particular standards. I’d really hate to think it was something like that.
As well, it strikes me as odd that you seem to get so upset at what you perceive to be a lack of information about a woman whom you find so unattractive. Passing strange. And you devoted so much time and energy to the project too! Curiouser and curiouser.
Unlike some people, I do not draw conclusions without evidence. I have learned how to think critically. So I can only wonder why you bothered to tear someone down who chooses to appear as she wishes, apparently because she does not conform to your idea of beauty.
I’m looking forward to your appearance as a Post Sixx Grrrl. Don’t disappoint us.
JD Carter
Feb 3rd, 2007
Your avitar photos are amazing and you are a beautiful woman. I thought this was SL and not the RL….. Let’s try to keep it in perspective. People are dying in the RL world and we are debating sh*t here that has no real relevance. Why can’t the prupose be to simply admire the beauty of these stunning female avitars?
Kalyrra Heart
Apr 20th, 2008
I just saw this blog lol. Patrice you look hot, and nobody is denying that. Prokofy, you need to grow up. You are what…70 years old? … and you still can’t behave like an adult? Prokofy is well known to be full of herself, and false in every word she writes, thats why she was permanently banned from Linden blogs and the forums. For the same price that Prokofy rents land you can buy land on my estate… and you own it! She is a con-artist of the worst sort, ignore her