Hacktivism, Governance, and Copyright Debates 4chan Style
by PaleFire on 29/09/10 at 12:14 pm
Operation Payback follows The Wrong Hands vs Justice League Unlimited script
Terra Nova is the term used to describe our weird existence in the digital realm that we call virtual worlds. Edward Castronova claims that we are in the process of exodus to these worlds. Equally interesting to note is that, as new worlds, our virtual existence complicates the real one by consistently questioning the regulations and governance that have been known to be tried and true, exposing their cracks and irregularities. Apparently, our very own Luddie (who was blatantly chatting with his alter-ego Uri the other day) wrote an e-paper on the future of virtual worlds which I illegally downloaded from The Pirate Bay. Who wants to pay for that shit, right? In it, he talks about the political structures that guide these virtual worlds and the governance structures that emerge within them. And he claims that terrestrial governments are rapidly becoming irrelevant. The problem, as he sees, is this: “when we move from the so-called real world to virtual worlds, we are moving from worlds that have been constructed by persons of tremendous vision to persons that are, quite frankly, computer engineers,” the implication being that these guys have no business governing their cubicles let alone a world (however *unreal* it may be). Another excerpt from the said e-paper: “The problem is that as virtual worlds become more and more important, the management of virtual worlds has become more and more erratic, heavy handed, and perhaps even corrupt.”
Well said, Luddie… but… I am going to say that these computer engineers who are pretending to be in charge of governance of these worlds may actually be serving a very utilitarian function: to initiate a much-needed change in the real world itself. By pretending to be in charge, they are mimicking real-world governance and policy-making (because they don’t know any better), and are inadvertently exposing how dysfunctional of our real-world systems have become both online and offline. No doubt, the convergence era brought its own set of problems. Equally obvious is that our laws and policies do not exactly satisfy the needs of a full-blown participatory culture fostered in the digital realm. We are in the process of redefining such policies and how virtual worlds should be governed. In the meantime, to make up for the absence of a functional system, computer programmers exercise a heavy-handed management style whereby users are kicked out, scammers trick n00bs, and users, who still don’t feel like justice was served, take matters into their own hands. End result: chaos ensues.
Time and again, we witnessed this dynamic play out between different groups in Second Life. Griefers harass people as they do in their usual way. They abuse the loopholes in the platform and ToS. Linden Lab initiates a blanket mass-ban that punishes the guilty along with the innocent associated with the guilty. Lands are seized, accounts are banned, forums are flooded with irate commentary… Banned accounts return under alt accounts and cause more mischief. Vigilante groups emerge to restore order because, clearly, the bans and regulations didn’t solve any problems: so now we have the Justice League Unlimited strutting around in their spandex pants. Linden Lab thinks “Hey, we can get these JLU guys do some of the dirty work.” Arrangements are made under the table, privileges are granted to some people. People who identify with these griefing groups (or are associated with them somehow) retaliate by penetrating the vigilante group, hacking their Wiki, and exposing the corruption that goes on in the “government” by revealing shady connections which should have never existed. Throw in a university, a viewer, and a clueless pundit-blogger somewhere in the story, and voila! Governance at its best! The bigger question is this: is it any different than how real governments function? Not really… But Second Life is a game (you say), who takes it seriously anyway? Not!
It turns out, as Uri (Luddie’s evil twin) says at the end of their imaginary chat, the game just got bigger. Indeed!
Let’s zoom out of Second Life for a minute and venture forth into the dark corridors of the Interwebs. We are now looking at the message boards that gave birth to the infamous 4chan culture. Disgusting! Gross! Cover your eyes with a spoon! Well, actually peek so you can see what went down last week… Their latest activity du jour: Operation Payback is a Bitch. It all started when Recording Industry Association of America (RIAA) and Motion Picture Association of America (MPAA) had contracted with an Indian software company to shut down free file-sharing sites such as The Pirate Bay. This decision is one of the ongoing attempts to protect intellectual property that started with the lawsuit against Napster.
Created by Shawn Fanning as a peer-to-peer network that began in 1999, Napster set to redefine the Internet, the music industry, and the way we all think about intellectual property. The network was closed down after a lawsuit but not without giving birth to various other peer-to-peer file sharing networks such as The Pirate Bay, suggesting that it is pretty darn impossible to crush such initiatives and no content is really safe on the Internet. And thus began the string of lawsuits. That we are in an age of serial lawsuits is a strong indicator that American copyright laws, as Siva Vaidhyanathan suggests, are dysfunctional, in that, they hinder cultural production.
Within the absence of a functional policy and copyright laws, companies started acting as the watchdogs of intellectual property, unleashing numerous lawsuits upon the guilty and innocent alike, mostly to extract money from whoever buys into the scheme. Virtual worlds exposed the cracks in our governance systems, peer-to-peer file sharing networks demonstrate that our copyright laws have become bankrupt in the face of a burgeoning participatory culture. The question in this scenario is this: who is watching the vigilantes in this Wild West? Enter Anonymous who called on its community to launch distributed denial-of-service attacks (DDoS) against RIAA, MPAA, and the law companies that are leading the copyright infringement lawsuits. Besides the damage these attacks have caused, the bloggers claim, this initiative could mark the first mass cyber protest of its kind on the Web. Could the Internet Hate Machine be responsible for… uhm… hacktivism?!? Actually, if you look at the definition that our very own Luddie gives in his article on Wikileaks published in the Nation, it certainly does. He explains hacktivism as “the application of information technologies (and the hacking of them) to political action.” One blogger cheerfully announces “In a massive triumph for freedom of the Internet a British law firm (ACS: Law) that specialises in anti-piracy cases has been exposed by Internet activists for what it is: a heartless, soulless, money-grubbing conglomeration of complete bastards, who have no respect for human rights, or even humans.”
The attacks of Anonymous against RIAA took down the organization’s site for one hour and 37 minutes. In a smart mob-like fashion, the group distributed instructions to users throughout the weekend, indicating the specific time to launch the attacks as well as the target IP address. Protestors also Google bombed a phrase accusing the president of MPAA of child molestation and attacked the Indian software company that MPAA and RIAA hired to shut down the free file-sharing sites. Slyck news reports that the group also targeted the Australian Federation Against Copyright Theft (AFACT) Web site.
Almost nine days after the initial attacks against the MPAA & RIAA, the focus of 4chan shifted to ACS:Law and Davenport Lyons. Exposing security issues and Web server mismanagement, these attacks left these sites down for several hours at a time. In the case of ACS:Law, an entire database of e-mails was left exposed on their server for several hours, ready to be downloaded by hackers who, then, promptly uploaded its contents to The Pirate Bay. Over the weekend, legal exchanges and embarrassing e-mails were published all over the Internet. Slyck reports that the file contains around a month of webmails belonging to solicitor Andrew Crossley, head of ACS:Law. According to the Register, the e-mails revealed that ACS:Law threatened lawsuits against alleged P2P copyright infringers unless they agree to an out-of-court settlement, typically of £500.
As sites like TorrentFreak continued to leak the contents of the company’s private correspondence on their sites, it became apparent that ACS:Law was actually leveling wrongful claims against those who had no idea what was going on. While the company owner Andrew Crossley was happy to brag about how much money he had been making, the hacked e-mails revealed that the human victims of this scheme were from poor people pleading for clemency, to bewildered old age pensioners accused of sharing adult movies and to married men who have been confronted with allegations of sharing gay porn. The leaked e-mails show that many of the alleged infringers simply refused to be bullied and had clearly been using the advice issued by both BeingThreatened.com and that available in the discussion threads of Slyck.com. They also seemed to very aware of the limitations of the evidence and also their obligations under the law. That’s good to know. UK’s Information Commissioner announced that ACS:Law could face a fine of as much as half a million British Pounds for not ensuring that the personal data was protected. Andrew Crossley is also being investigated by the Solicitors Regulation Authority on charges of unethical conduct.
All is well that ends well (for the most part).
Tracey Humphreys
Sep 29th, 2010
http://torrentfreak.com/acslaw-anti-piracy-law-firm-torn-apart-by-leaked-emails-100925/
http://acslaw.blogspot.com/2010/09/breaking-news-andrew-crossleys.html
lol!
Tarheel McCoy
Sep 29th, 2010
I love this article. It has everything. Drama, sex, intrigue – okay, maybe no sex. But everything else. It promotes a kind of anonymous anarchy as a way of participating in society. Hide in the shadows, strike at the haves, because there are a lot of have-nots out there that want whatever they’ve got.
Let’s get real here. The Wikileaks thing – what happened there put thousands of men’s lives in danger. The First Amendment to the Constitution of the United States of America specifically prohibits speech like this, and for the very reason that it puts other people’s lives on the line.
The Wikileaks most recent belly flop wasn’t heroism. It was criminal. I agree that things like this need to be brought to light. A nation with a free press is the only way in which government can be kept from overrunning its own populace, which it will do time and time again if the element of the free press is removed from the equation.
The reason I like this article, though, is because it points up the apparently completely self-centered view the Anonymous have of themselves in relation to the rest of the world. If you want to stand up for what’s right, then do it. But don’t hide behind a mask. And don’t pretend that hackery is heroism, because it isn’t.
Since the author brought up the Wrong Hands versus the Justice League almost in the first breath, he must consider that to be of pivotal importance to his other arguments, so let’s look at this: what did the Justice League do, and what did the Wrong Hands do?
On the Justice League’s side, they kept (and are presumably still keeping) a very large body of information about what goes on in Second Life, tracking a very large number of what they call griefers. I’ve read the information (there was a lot of it) and what I found was that the people who were doing all the screaming and yelling about the JLU were the people who were consistently being caught for misbehaving. Nobody else cared from what I can see, just the same people posting over and over again trying to make it look like a large noise from a large number of people, when in fact it was mostly just the three or four who had taken griefing to the next level and started attacking people in real life who wanted the JLU taken down. There are a lot of people who don’t like what the JLU does very much at all, but those people weren’t being represented by the Wrong Hands. The Wrong Hands just represented themselves an a retaliatory move for Woodbury getting repeatedly caught running raids out of their sims.
It wasn’t whistleblowing. It was revenge, pure and simple. And it didn’t work. All that happened was that The Wrong Hands were exposed, hunted down and deleted. So were their friends. So were their friends’ friends, in a huge chain reaction, and all because what they did in the name of “justice” was far worse than anything anybody else in the equation had done, and it was the biggest mass banning in the history of Second Life involving the loss of half a dozen regions and the deletion of scores of accounts.
So how does this serve the voice of the people? How does this protect the interests of the little guy, the people who just want to go on with their lives unmolested by the likes of the JLU? Nobody wants self-appointed cybercops climbing in their bedroom windows, no matter what costumes they happen to be wearing at the time.
The answer is, “it doesn’t. At all.” Dozens of innocent people got swept up in the Linden Lab response to the Wrong Hands, and in their singleminded selfishness, the Wrong Hands is DIRECTLY responsible for all that destruction. People’s businesses were lost, people lost their livelihoods in-world. Some people actually live on what they make in Second Life, hard to believe, but some do. And The Wrong Hands in their single selfish act destroyed dozens of businesses, and just made the Justice League stronger than ever before. There might have been a chance to take out the League at one point, but that point passed long ago.
This was an act of futile desperation, not heroism. If they’d just dealt with the problem in some sort of rational manner, none of this would have happened, and they wouldn’t be banned to the last man or lost any of their sims.
To now take this back to the Wikileaks incident, it comes out to the same thing. One person leaked about 80,000 documents that exposed troop movements and strengths and deployments, and may yet lead to the death of hundreds or perhaps thousands of people who, right or wrong, are out there trying to defend the interests of the United States. The motivations weren’t selfless at all. They were motivated by a desire for glory, with one person placing himself over the needs of an entire nation.
The Pirate Bay situation, same thing. This is not going to stop the RIAA, or the BPI. All it will do is make the enemy harder to deal with later. Promoting this kind of behavior is, I’m pretty certain, a felony in and of itself and I’m astonished to see the Herald actively promoting criminal activity.
The bottom line: Hacktivism is a myth. It simply does NOT work, and all it does is harden the targets for the next time. What DOES work is digging the sand from under the foundations of organizations like the RIAA, the MPAA, the BPI and the Church of Scientology. The only reason these organizations have power is that there was a void, and these groups simply moved into the void and established themselves and grew in strength and power until one day everybody woke up to find that they were so big that they were blocking the road.
It takes more time to do this, but it’s the only certain path to victory. Acts of Hactivism don’t work, and historically have never made any difference at all. What does work is changing the system upon which these societal bains thrive. The DDoS attack last week did what again? Nothing?
Nothing.
Though I’m sure a few people were probably arrested, nobody knows their names, and the affect was zero. Heroes?
Um. No. Just thugs and thieves.
Margie Owens
Sep 29th, 2010
I love this article. It has everything. Drama, sex, intrigue – okay, maybe no sex. But everything else. It promotes a kind of anonymous anarchy as a way of participating in society. Hide in the shadows, strike at the haves, because there are a lot of have-nots out there that want whatever they’ve got.
Let’s get real here. The Wikileaks thing – what happened there put thousands of men’s lives in danger. The First Amendment to the Constitution of the United States of America specifically prohibits speech like this, and for the very reason that it puts other people’s lives on the line.
The Wikileaks most recent belly flop wasn’t heroism. It was criminal. I agree that things like this need to be brought to light. A nation with a free press is the only way in which government can be kept from overrunning its own populace, which it will do time and time again if the element of the free press is removed from the equation.
The reason I like this article, though, is because it points up the apparently completely self-centered view the Anonymous have of themselves in relation to the rest of the world. If you want to stand up for what’s right, then do it. But don’t hide behind a mask. And don’t pretend that hackery is heroism, because it isn’t.
Since the author brought up the Wrong Hands versus the Justice League almost in the first breath, he must consider that to be of pivotal importance to his other arguments, so let’s look at this: what did the Justice League do, and what did the Wrong Hands do?
On the Justice League’s side, they kept (and are presumably still keeping) a very large body of information about what goes on in Second Life, tracking a very large number of what they call griefers. I’ve read the information (there was a lot of it) and what I found was that the people who were doing all the screaming and yelling about the JLU were the people who were consistently being caught for misbehaving. Nobody else cared from what I can see, just the same people posting over and over again trying to make it look like a large noise from a large number of people, when in fact it was mostly just the three or four who had taken griefing to the next level and started attacking people in real life who wanted the JLU taken down. There are a lot of people who don’t like what the JLU does very much at all, but those people weren’t being represented by the Wrong Hands. The Wrong Hands just represented themselves an a retaliatory move for Woodbury getting repeatedly caught running raids out of their sims.
It wasn’t whistleblowing. It was revenge, pure and simple. And it didn’t work. All that happened was that The Wrong Hands were exposed, hunted down and deleted. So were their friends. So were their friends’ friends, in a huge chain reaction, and all because what they did in the name of “justice” was far worse than anything anybody else in the equation had done, and it was the biggest mass banning in the history of Second Life involving the loss of half a dozen regions and the deletion of scores of accounts.
So how does this serve the voice of the people? How does this protect the interests of the little guy, the people who just want to go on with their lives unmolested by the likes of the JLU? Nobody wants self-appointed cybercops climbing in their bedroom windows, no matter what costumes they happen to be wearing at the time.
The answer is, “it doesn’t. At all.” Dozens of innocent people got swept up in the Linden Lab response to the Wrong Hands, and in their singleminded selfishness, the Wrong Hands is DIRECTLY responsible for all that destruction. People’s businesses were lost, people lost their livelihoods in-world. Some people actually live on what they make in Second Life, hard to believe, but some do. And The Wrong Hands in their single selfish act destroyed dozens of businesses, and just made the Justice League stronger than ever before. There might have been a chance to take out the League at one point, but that point passed long ago.
This was an act of futile desperation, not heroism. If they’d just dealt with the problem in some sort of rational manner, none of this would have happened, and they wouldn’t be banned to the last man or lost any of their sims.
To now take this back to the Wikileaks incident, it comes out to the same thing. One person leaked about 80,000 documents that exposed troop movements and strengths and deployments, and may yet lead to the death of hundreds or perhaps thousands of people who, right or wrong, are out there trying to defend the interests of the United States. The motivations weren’t selfless at all. They were motivated by a desire for glory, with one person placing himself over the needs of an entire nation.
The Pirate Bay situation, same thing. This is not going to stop the RIAA, or the BPI. All it will do is make the enemy harder to deal with later. Promoting this kind of behavior is, I’m pretty certain, a felony in and of itself and I’m astonished to see the Herald actively promoting criminal activity.
The bottom line: Hacktivism is a myth. It simply does NOT work, and all it does is harden the targets for the next time. What DOES work is digging the sand from under the foundations of organizations like the RIAA, the MPAA, the BPI and the Church of Scientology. The only reason these organizations have power is that there was a void, and these groups simply moved into the void and established themselves and grew in strength and power until one day everybody woke up to find that they were so big that they were blocking the road.
It takes more time to do this, but it’s the only certain path to victory. Acts of Hactivism don’t work, and historically have never made any difference at all. What does work is changing the system upon which these societal bains thrive. The DDoS attack last week did what again? Nothing?
Nothing.
Though I’m sure a few people were probably arrested, nobody knows their names, and the affect was zero. Heroes?
Um. No. Just thugs and thieves.
Why do I love this article? Because it exposes them fpr what they are.
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Margie Owens
Sep 29th, 2010
Crap, I wanted to post my teardown on this but reposted the whole thing instead.
Let me say this, though – I think Hacktivism DOES work. Did you read the article, “Tarheel”? A law firm employed by the RIAA is in some serious hot water – and while the hacking of their database itself didn’t change much by itself, it did show us that people are fighting back, and it’s not just isolated pockets of resistance.
What the RIAA doesn’t want us to see is that there is any resistance at all. That’s why hacktivism is so important.
atrebor Zenovka
Sep 29th, 2010
atrebor Zenovka agrees with Tarheel that the Minutemen in the Colonies who stood behind trees to fight the British (sorry my friends) must have been cowards and should have stood in the open to confront the redcoats. Only fair and courageous and honest way to fight is to stand up in front of the giant’s boot and let them know that they are squashing you. It worked for Ghandi and MLK, so I say let’s rescind the US back to the revolution and get Washington’s army out in the open to fight the British fair and square in the square and no more of this disguising as Indians to dump tea in the harbor.
Kinoko
Sep 29th, 2010
LULZ DDOS Attacks, its not like THE FBI, or the court will win.
Remember our constitutional rights guise.
Under these rights they cant stop file sharing, Yes it is against the law to share illegal stuff such as a Movie on a torrent site which you did not create unlessr you have permission to do such, music, or anything else you do not own copyright over.
However there are many torrenting sites out there.
Many Clip, Pirate bay, & Many others.
http://www.torrentresource.com/
While I agree sharing stolen stuff is illegal, I don’t support take down of entire sites over such. Instead the FBI should go after the people in violation sharing the illegal downloads and such.
FBI & Second Life
The FBI dont care, I have complaints about Skills Hak’s Privacy Violation, ZF Redzone. They do nothing.
Remember that we have rights, and we should not let the FBI, or anyone else take those rights away from us just because people choose to use a service illegally. This is like the FBI trying to take down World OF Warcraft, because I illegally streamed music through my mic which another friend on the other end recorded it illegally, or comming after me because I illegally record music on youtube, but do not share or anything. This is nuts, and the FBI can’t stop it all.
The Solution to stop all theft…
Just Ban All Recording Devices from the public forever, but look where that leaves us, it is a violation of our rights.
Hope this helps, and I hope pirate bay wins, also 4chan attacks are really funneh, because it shows how poorly internet servers are set to block out such attacks.
Kiddoh
Sep 29th, 2010
@Atrebor Zenovka: Hey, you wanna know what’s funny? Americans back in the revolution were British Colonists. I’ll just let you think about that for a while… :>
Kinoko
Sep 29th, 2010
Oh Yeah Pirate Bay can’t really get sued, because in a court or law they could appeal that it is a simple torrent search engine. They do not actually host any of the files, so Really I do hope they win. I just checked it out, and the actual files are not stored on pirate bay servers so really its no different than using google, and searching for cracks or hacks.
Why not take down google, and yahoo too?
AM Oderngrl
Sep 29th, 2010
@Tarheel McCoy
>This was an act of futile desperation, not heroism. If they’d just dealt with the problem in some sort of rational manner, none of this would have happened, and they wouldn’t be banned to the last man or lost any of their sims.<
What sort of solution would you propose? There is no neutral third party to which you can take your complaints. What should they have done?
Tarheel McCoy
Sep 29th, 2010
I can think of several things. First and foremost, they could have tried simply asking directly for the information, which they clearly didn’t do. Sometimes this actually does work.
Another thing they could have done is talk to the Lindens about the problem and ask them what they could do, and they clearly didn’t do this either.
A third thing they could have done was go talk to community leaders and get them to engage the League in a dialog, if they couldn’t get the League to talk to them themselves. Somehow they’d have to pry open the doors without either committing much more heinous crimes themselves, because the response to these acts more than drowns out whatever message they might have been trying to convey. “Who cares if the JLU have three people’s real life names somewhere in their wiki? Look at how many servers the Wrong Hands hacked along the way, look at the defacement of the LL building last year, look at all the PN wandering in and out of their sims, look at the people they took down with them when they fell, yada yada yada.” The message was completely COMPLETELY lost in all that other noise.
What they did was just juvenile acting out, and apart from stressing everybody out and getting themselves and all their friends pounded for it, what did that accomplish?
atrebor Zenovka
Sep 29th, 2010
@kiddoh nawh, them guys all knew they was in America and not colonizing britain..at least the ones who were awake. The Normans was British colonists.
Gaara Sandalwood
Sep 29th, 2010
I personally hope that PB sticks around for a long while. I regularly used it in the past and despite most opinions its service is pretty damn good.
Anyway, best thing I’ve read in weeks.
Judge Joker
Sep 29th, 2010
@Tarheel McCoy
I cared, and I was an ex-mentor who was never banned, never did anything wrong and was never suspended, others also cared but either didn’t want to speak out because they were afraid of the JLU or didn’t want to be seen standing up for those whom have been branded griefers.
Please re-read the entire JLU fiasco posted in articles on this site, before you stand up and say no one else cared but the griefers.
In particular look for comments under my name “Judge Joker” vs comments under GLE’s name.
While I don’t consider myself anything special it’s well worth a read, even if at times it is slightly embarrassing for me to be arguing with him.
And if your as stupid as Corsi M to think and brand me a griefer, well I suggest you go find proof because not everyone believes lies, and I have way more proof of my good than any proof of suggested bad.
As for Governance Linden Labs tends to get it wrong, and if we introduced any virtual politics to the mix we would end up with truck loads of drama, so while this article says they are not qualified to Judge and condemn e.t.c we don’t have much choice as it’s run by a business and not by a country.
Rules are rules, even the JLU have to face a Judge when they’re caught.
And that Judge is not me, that Judge is always public opinion.
Yep
Sep 29th, 2010
This so reminds me of this news clip that I read yesterday where these people go after the pervs who shared porn that is of an embarrassing nature knowing these pervs would settle out of court to keep it quiet.
“It seems like it will be quite embarrassing for whichever user ends up in a lawsuit about using a popular shemale title,” Vivas said. “When it comes to private sexual fantasies and fetishes, going public is probably not worth the risk that these torrent and peer-to-peer users are taking.”
http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2010/09/porn-studios-borrowing-from-riaa-playbook-with-p2p-lawsuits.ars?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=rss
Kiddoh
Sep 29th, 2010
@Atrebor: So are you saying that my race and cultural heritage all change based on which country I’m in or what loyalties I hold? Surely you jest. Should I also mention that there is a North America, Central America, and South America? Since when did British colonists suddenly represent entire continents? The US wasn’t even established in the Revolutionary War, it was just the 13 colonies.
When it comes right down to the nitty-gritty, The Revolutionary War was Brits vs. Brits and then the Civil War that followed was simply Brits vs. less civilized Brits.
US-American culture didn’t start to really develop until the US came out of neutral isolation when jerks from other countries started giving them shit in WWI and WWII. During the World Wars, the US started getting a shit-ton of immigrants from all sides of the wars. Eventually the US established equal rights towards all citizens in the US and became the big mixing pot of cultures it is today.
So again, I reiterate, you must be joking.
Observer
Sep 29th, 2010
When i was a kid the things we did for fun would be considered terrorist type activities today. At least with this internet shenanigans today’s kids are not blowing themselves up with home made fireworks. And they are exposing dumbasses for what they are which isn’t all that bad. But they should not be too surprised if they slip up and have some “difficulties” for having participated in some “hacktivism fun” and got tracked because they fucked up and mentioned it to someone and the bread crumb trail grows. That’s how they nailed iceman. One of his friends talked about him. Thats all it takes. And we all know how the elite of the internet likes to brag. Like this very article lol.
Boyd Doghouse
Sep 29th, 2010
You’re missing a fairly obvious point, which is, how are you gonna pay for the development of all this content if everyone get’s it for free?
The only reason there are books and movies available for distribution on Pirate bay is that only a fairly small percentage of people use it. The rest pay for their books, movies and music in the traditional way which pays for their production.
If everybody started getting their stuff that way, pretty soon there’d be nothing to get except material made before p2p and documentaries paid for with government money.
Tracey Humphreys
Sep 29th, 2010
Most posters here seem a have missed a few points, I’ll try to explain.
This all happened in the UK (NOT the USA), where a company called ACS:Law hit on a great money making idea – robbery. Here’s how…
1) They got permission from some copyright holders (porn films, music, etc) to pursue file sharers for cash for them (after taking a larger cut themselves).
2) They paid people to give them lists of the ip addresses, and times of people sharing these files.
3) They then paid the ISP’s a large sum of money for each name and address behind the ip address, after getting a court order UNCONTESTED by the ISP. The ISP’s had agreed with ACS:Law not to contest, guaranteeing the court order would be granted.
A couple of ISP’s (Virgin and TalkTalk) made it clear they WOULD contest any application for a court order: ACS:Law did not pursue ANY file sharers with these ISP’s as they knew they had no legal right to get this data. However, most ISP’s welcomed this as another income stream (most notably Sky, owned by that nice gentleman who owns Fox News, Mr Rupert Murdoch).
4) Once in possesion of a name and address, they sent a nasty legal letter demanding a very high amount of money to avoid litigation (usually nearly £500 = approx $750). Many people paid up, even though the threat of litigation was an idle one, having no chance to suceed under English law.
Tens of thousands of letters were sent out, often to innocent people. The owner, Andrew Crossley bragged about taking £1 million per annum.
Not suprisingly, ACS:Law became very unpopular in the file sharing community, and a succesful DDOS attack was launched.
When the site eventually came back on, it wasn’t working correctly but instead showed a 350mb file of the company’s website which included countless company emails, all unencrypted, which should NEVER have been stored on a web server (the UK has strict data protection laws). The emails make VERY interesting reading, showing all their shady dealings.
The emails make it very plain the object was to just to get cash, and NOT to fight piracy at all
The company now could face a £500,000 fine for breaches of the data
protection act. This will probably send the company into bankrupcy.
Either way, the company looks finished.
@Tarheel McCoy
” The DDoS attack last week did what again? Nothing?
Nothing.”
Nothing except stop a very nasty, very greedy lawyer dead in his tracks.
@Tarheel McCoy
“A law firm employed by the RIAA is in some serious hot water ”
Ummm, isn’t the RIAA is AMERICAN?
London is NOT in the USA, thank goodness. The RIAA has no powers in London.
(The equivalent in the UK is the BPI, who, whilst very hostile to file sharing would never use these methods).
Download the emails, they make great reading (see my links in the very first post).
WOO HOOO HACKERS!!!
Boyd Doghouse
Sep 29th, 2010
The other thing you’re glossing over is the Anonymous attacks on Scientology.
While we may all agree Scientology is pretty weird and creepy, it’s also true that weird and creepy religions are, in fact, protected by the constitution and they’re protected for the very simple reason that you and I can’t be trusted to decide which religions to allow and which religions to deny, so the only solution is to allow them all.
What anonymous did was an atrocious attack on civil liberties, much worse than whatever crimes Scientology was committing.
While their targets are different, I don’t see much difference between anonymous and the Klu Klux Klan. Both have decided they were going to use tactics of anonymity and intimidation to try and shape the world the way they see it, regardless of what the rest of us want.
We live by the rule of law for the very simple reason that it works better than just letting people do whatever the hell they want. Eventually people will figure out that it applies on the internet as well as they physical world, otherwise we’ll just regress to the level of tribe vs tribe behavior you see in parts of the third world.
To be honest, I expected this. The internet is a frontier and frontiers are always wild and ruthless and lawless at first. Eventually though, enough people will move to the frontier who realize they just don’t want to live that way and marginalize the outlaws.
Edna
Sep 29th, 2010
TerraNova is also a copyrighted servicemark of the USA’s largest publisher/educational assessment company (McGraw-Hill.). Were they paid a royalty fee for using their property in this article? If not, maybe the stroker can figure out a way to sue Linden Lab over the infringement.
Tracey Humphreys
Sep 29th, 2010
@Edna – I dont think anyone can stop anybody saying Terra Nova, as mentioned in the article, or even New World.
If Terra Nova IS McGraw-Hill property, then George Orwell’s estate is in BIG trouble…
Alex Ponebshek
Sep 30th, 2010
“Dozens of innocent people got swept up in the Linden Lab response to the Wrong Hands, and in their singleminded selfishness, the Wrong Hands is DIRECTLY responsible for all that destruction.”
I think “directly” doesn’t mean what you think it means. Linden Lab is directly responsible for all that destruction. The word you were looking for is “indirectly”…
IntLibber Brautigan
Sep 30th, 2010
Alex,
Not even indirectly responsible. Otherwise that is like saying that greedy bankers are responsible for the holocaust.
Alex Ponebshek
Sep 30th, 2010
IntLibber, I totally agree with you… but that would probably be too much truth for OP to handle
The Right Feet
Sep 30th, 2010
“All that happened was that The Wrong Hands were exposed, hunted down and deleted.”
Hunted down and deleted? *laughs*
You mean Harry Linden found their alts for that day? I guarantee you they were back on the grid within minutes, just like every day.
There is a common misconception that The Wrong Hands exists as a group of well-meaning public servants. Although their actions result in some form of unorthodox karmic balance, they are more closely likened to The Dirty Dozen.
“Criminals convicted of capital offenses, either serving sentences of hard labor or awaiting execution, and whip them into a unit capable of carrying out a specific task.”
- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Dirty_Dozen
Selene Putzo
Sep 30th, 2010
This is very interesting reading, but I have to correct one thing….
“…..back to the Wikileaks incident, it comes out to the same thing. One person leaked about 80,000 documents that exposed troop movements and strengths and deployments, and may yet lead to the death of hundreds or perhaps thousands of people who, right or wrong, are out there trying to defend the interests of the United States….”
It isn’t just American troops out there with their lives on the line…. also, it isn’t just for the interest of the United States of America…. it is a world effort against the growing harm of global terrorism against all of us, you know that little blue thing called planet Earth.
TOS Reminder
Sep 30th, 2010
@ Boyd Doghouse
How is an anonymous protest (i cannot call it an atrocious attack on civil liberties, as protesting in and by itself *is* a civil liberty) a worse crime then what the ‘church’ of scientology has done, for example, murder and extortion?
I get the idea that you know little about what the scientology ‘church’ is about, and does.
For one, the only reason that it calls itself a religion, is because then they don’t have to pay taxes.
I myself never really saw a problem with scientology, untill I learned a little more about it. Since then I have joined in the protests outside their local building, handed out flyers and raised a little more awareness. I have not attacked anyone’s freedoms, I have not burnt any crosses on anyone’s lawn, I have not lynched any scientologists, and I have not intimidated anyone. The anonymousity during the protest was simply to protect ourselves from the scientology ‘fair game’ policy, which states that those critical of the organisation must be silenced by any means needed. So I find the comparison to the KKK slightly insulting. More stupid and uneducated tho, so don’t worry I’m not really offended.
Lastly, Google Lisa McPherson. Then tell me again that what Anonymous did at the protests is worse then what Scientology has done, does, and possibly will do again.
Alyx Stoklitsky
Sep 30th, 2010
My LOIC has been on all month.
Tarheel McCoy
Sep 30th, 2010
@The Right Feet, yes, they can evade their ban and get back in whenever they like. But they’ll never get their old avatar names back, and they’ll never be able to hang onto an alt long enough to rejoin the rest of the community. Their identity has been taken away from them at that point, permanently, and that’s something they can’t ever get back.
Look at all the people who lost their identities in-world – all the original Wrong Hands lost their identities in-world except one, maybe, and these were sometimes identities they’d had for years and never expected to lose. They’ve had to walk away from everything they’d built over all that time, and they’ve destroyed the continuity of their identity now, because they have to hop from alt to alt as the Lindens discover and ban each one, and there are a lot of people out there now scouring the grid looking for their alts because of all the people they pissed off along the way, so they don’t even get to keep those very long.
Worse, they’ve done the same thing to their own friends, many of whom were guilty of really nothing but hanging out with the wrong people, and they lost their identities too, and many have just given up trying and moved on to other things outside of SL. So the Wrong Hands, far from being heroes, dismantled their own social sphere to the point where they can no longer function, and effectively trashed everybody else’s around them too. So it’s hard to see why they’d have anything to crow about. Anybody can make an alt, get a proxy, and be back in. But they’re starting from scratch each time, and they can’t build up anything like what they had ever again.
So they can crow like roosters if it makes them happy, but they’ll always be outside with their nosed pressed against the glass, and that’s not something you can fix – and it’s not something the Wrong Hands or Foxchase cared about, either, they were going to throw everybody under the bus if that’s what it took to get their revenge, and that’s exactly what ended up happening.
And this just illustrates why I feel so strongly about the WikiLeaks situation, and the Hacktivism myth. Information does not want to be free. Information can’t “want” anything. It’s information. PEOPLE want information to be free, and it’s important to understand the difference, and the ramifications beyond the initial rush of pulling a fast one.
Tracey Humphreys
Sep 30th, 2010
/me salutes Alyx Stoklitsky (for ‘My LOIC has been on all month”)…
Kiddoh
Sep 30th, 2010
@Tarheel McCoy: Here’s a lovely quote that is relevant to what you’ve been saying.
” 1. Sun Tzu said: In the practical art of war, the best
thing of all is to take the enemy’s country whole and intact;
to shatter and destroy it is not so good. So, too, it is
better to recapture an army entire than to destroy it,
to capture a regiment, a detachment or a company entire
than to destroy them.
2. Hence to fight and conquer in all your battles
is not supreme excellence; supreme excellence consists
in breaking the enemy’s resistance without fighting.
3. Thus the highest form of generalship is to
balk the enemy’s plans; the next best is to prevent
the junction of the enemy’s forces; the next in
order is to attack the enemy’s army in the field;
and the worst policy of all is to besiege walled cities.
4. The rule is, not to besiege walled cities if it
can possibly be avoided. The preparation of mantlets,
movable shelters, and various implements of war, will take
up three whole months; and the piling up of mounds over
against the walls will take three months more.
5. The general, unable to control his irritation,
will launch his men to the assault like swarming ants,
with the result that one-third of his men are slain,
while the town still remains untaken. Such are the disastrous
effects of a siege.” – Sun Tzu on the Art of War.
What it means is. It’s never a good idea to try and completely crush your enemy especially when they have a wall of protection–it’s was waste of time and resources. It also means you should not back your enemies into corners where the only option they have is to fight.
These are the rules SL, Emerald, JLU, and who ever else seem to be breaking constantly in regards to The Wrong Hands and groups of the like. In the realm of the meta-verse where every individual has their own form of a walled city and there is in no sense true mortality, all SL, Emerald, JLU, and w/e are really doing is losing time and resources on trying to crush numerous walled cities that cannot be broken. As they continue to back groups like The Wrong Hands into corners, those groups will have no choice but to fight back because not only do they have no other options, they also have nothing left to lose.
“So they can crow like roosters if it makes them happy, but they’ll always be outside with their nosed pressed against the glass, and that’s not something you can fix – and it’s not something the Wrong Hands or Foxchase cared about, either, they were going to throw everybody under the bus if that’s what it took to get their revenge, and that’s exactly what ended up happening.”
I can assure you that even the innocent who where banned are rooting for The Wrong Hands. To us, it was the Lindens that threw us under a bus that The Wrong Hands happened to be driving. Our annoyance turns to joy hearing that people who are corrupt enough to ignore objectivity and discard the innocent with the guilty are getting what they deserve, is that not the justice heroes often talk about? And when has an identity ever mattered to heroes? Never has a hero needed a face in order to do what they do, and many of them choose to not have one such as “Deepthroat” and his involvement in the Watergate Scandal.
It’s all really a matter of perspective. People can be heroes in some people’s eyes and villains in the eyes of others.
Tarheel McCoy
Sep 30th, 2010
You’re obviously missing a few important points, Kiddoh.
First of all, I think if you polled the vast majority of people who got banned because they knew somebody who may have been in Woodbury and did nothing else wrong and still got banned (and there are a number of them) I don’t think very many of them would be cheering for the Wrong Hands. People lost businesses and livelihoods. Not many did, but some did.
Secondly, you’re not victims, and you’re not heroes, let’s dispense with that notion right away. Other people are victims, and they were the people you sacrificed to gratify your own egos – and of course your online identities are important to you, or you wouldn’t cling to yours long after its Second Life counterpart had been deleted.
Now, the only place Tizzers Foxchases exists, for example, is in the pages of the Herald. Nowhere else. Maybe his own blog site. But that’s it, there’s no “Tizzers Foxchase” in Second Life anymore than he can admit to without getting it banned. So, uh, no.
And the next point is that you seem to have the idea that you accomplished something, and you haven’t, except to trash yourselves. So nobody threw you under the bus in the same way you did to your friends. You did that one all on your own, you clever bunnies.
(Whenever somebody says “I can assure you”, by the way, it’s a sure sign he’s lying.)
Finally, if you were so good at applying the Art of War, why did you lose? I mean, don’t you feel a little silly pushing that particular chestnut around with your nose at this point? Everybody who reads the Herald at all knows how it all ended up. It’s like Gaara Sandalwood repeatedly claiming he wasn’t a griefer, and then having those chat logs reposted showing him participating in a raid each time, and then him joining a new thread and pretending it didn’t happen.
It’s called “denial”. And you are broken down to your smallest atomic parts, below which no more breakage is possible. I’d say that’s pretty broken.
I don’t remember the name of who else posted this, and I don’t feel like looking it up, but I’ll repeat it here:
Kiddoh, it’s time to let go and move on.
It.
Is.
Over.
Kiddoh
Sep 30th, 2010
@Tarheel McCoy: You’re making it pretty obvious you don’t comprehend what I wrote.
Please, allow me to address everything in your response.
“First of all, I think if you polled the vast majority of people who got banned because they knew somebody who may have been in Woodbury and did nothing else wrong and still got banned (and there are a number of them) I don’t think very many of them would be cheering for the Wrong Hands. People lost businesses and livelihoods. Not many did, but some did.”
What’s your source on this matter? It’s common knowledge that the only people who were banned because of The Wrong Hands were leader-figures in Woodbury and The Wrong Hands itself. I know I sure as hell didn’t do anything to deserve getting super-banned and had a pretty clean record– even the JLU didn’t have shit on me. Also; please give some examples of people who lost their businesses and livelihoods because of The Wrong Hands, otherwise you’re making shit up.
“Secondly, you’re not victims, and you’re not heroes, let’s dispense with that notion right away. Other people are victims, and they were the people you sacrificed to gratify your own egos – and of course your online identities are important to you, or you wouldn’t cling to yours long after its Second Life counterpart had been deleted.”
Last I checked I was never a member of The Wrong Hands, in fact I was one of those people sacrificed. You’ll notice I only used the term “we” when I began to talk about those who were caught in the crossfire and now cheer for TWH. And no, internet identities are not important, and I would prefer if you didn’t tell me what I think is important from now on. I didn’t give a shit when I was banned and I still don’t. Internet Identities aren’t worth one cent, botters show identities can be mass produced, alts show identities can be discarded at any time.
“Now, the only place Tizzers Foxchases exists, for example, is in the pages of the Herald. Nowhere else. Maybe his own blog site. But that’s it, there’s no “Tizzers Foxchase” in Second Life anymore than he can admit to without getting it banned. So, uh, no.”
Yes, because SecondLife is the only place where you can have an internet identity. -/sarcasm-
Oh and by the way: http://blog.bluemars.com/2010/09/blue-world-street-style-tizzers.html
“And the next point is that you seem to have the idea that you accomplished something, and you haven’t, except to trash yourselves. So nobody threw you under the bus in the same way you did to your friends. You did that one all on your own, you clever bunnies.”
Oh my, last I checked I didn’t throw anyone under a bus. I hope you realize I’m not part of The Wrong Hands. But if anyone’s doing good at trashing themselves, it’s you with your clear lack of desire for objectivity. I would say The Wrong Hands has accomplished plenty of things, they exposed the JLU as well as Emerald before anyone else.
“(Whenever somebody says “I can assure you”, by the way, it’s a sure sign he’s lying.)”
-sarcasm- Yes, I must clearly be lying about my own opinion. Secretly I must resent The Wrong Hands for accidentally getting me banned in a video game and all the other people in the world are saints. -/sarcasm-
“Finally, if you were so good at applying the Art of War, why did you lose? I mean, don’t you feel a little silly pushing that particular chestnut around with your nose at this point? Everybody who reads the Herald at all knows how it all ended up. It’s like Gaara Sandalwood repeatedly claiming he wasn’t a griefer, and then having those chat logs reposted showing him participating in a raid each time, and then him joining a new thread and pretending it didn’t happen.”
If the Wrong Hands Lost, why are they still causing so much “damage”? On the internet, the only way to lose, is to give up. Also; do you seriously think Gaara is the voice of WU and WTH? Hardly anyone knows him or ever saw him when WU was still around.
“It’s called “denial”. And you are broken down to your smallest atomic parts, below which no more breakage is possible. I’d say that’s pretty broken.”
-sarcasm- Oh I must be, why should I even bother with all that I have done in my Real Life now that I am banned from Second Life. Second Life is…
JUST
SO
IMPORTANT
LIKE FOOD
AND WATER
YOU DIE IN GAME YOU DIE FOR REAL, OH GOD!-/sarcasm-
“I don’t remember the name of who else posted this, and I don’t feel like looking it up, but I’ll repeat it here:
Kiddoh, it’s time to let go and move on.
It.
Is.
Over.”
Based on how you have a clear bias and no regards for objectivity, and an actual malice… I believe that doing what you tell me to do would be ill-advised.
Oh and the person you’re repeating is Nelson Jenkins, and that was just as effective then as it was now. In fact, I believe I personally pimp slapped him a couple of times when he he got a little out of hand and refused to listen with that statement.
And like I said, it’s all a matter of perspective, you think WTH is villainous, I think they’re Heroes.
Gaara Sandalwood
Sep 30th, 2010
“You’re obviously missing a few important points, Kiddoh.”
Personally I think Kiddoh covered things moderately well. Between LL, the JLU, and the Emerald Devs, WU in general was having it rough. I’m pretty much a newbie but from what I saw, all at once:
LL was basically giving shit tons of only moderately reasonable negotiations and terms just for WU to remain on the grid of SL at all before the whole Emerald fiasco occured(I could be wrong but I’m pretty sure it was before then), and only through one person as a mediator to send messages between LL and WU, they refused to use anyone else but one person, and that person refused at times to even deliver certain agreement terms to LL from WU in the first place, only making things more difficult. I know one of these terms included literally closing away WU’s sims, so that no one outside WU could enter and no one in the group could leave(no one, not even the lesser members, so for example, I, who spent a good portion, but not all, of my time there, wouldn’t have been able to go where other people I talked to are and hang out with them).
At around the same time the JLU were breathing down WU’s neck, crying “Griefer!”, “ToS Violation!”, and “AR!” at everything WU did on the grid, going as far as to claim my presence in a Jewish history sim that they caught wind of through someone in WU relaying private messages(a violation in and of itself of the ToS), was to grief it, when I was doing nothing of the sort, then, from what I read in the leaked wiki, stated to have AR’d me for simply having a pick in my profile stating I do not tolerate furries that go around whining that all humans need to die, something I had a couple experiences with prior to the event, stating that it was an intolerance statement towards furries. Every time a WU member left the home sims the JLU hounded them like dogs and attempted to catch them for as much shit as possible.
As for Emerald they just added to the BS with their usual shit, and after the wiki leak performed by the Wrong Hands, used the alledged hacking of their site to uncover classified information(that was actually info that revealed a bit of a moral scandal at the least on Emerald’s part), as a reason to get LL to ban everyone in owner status in the WH and in WU. All owners, when the event itself was perpetrated primarily by one or two people, and while not the comic book kid cartoon hero style of justifiable, was more or less more justifiable than what was uncovered through it.
“Secondly, you’re not victims, and you’re not heroes, let’s dispense with that notion right away.”
No one ever had that notion. It was all just about revealing the ED’s BS, nothing about being the heroes, and as far as I recall, not every WU member is even posting everywhere whining about being victims.
“Other people are victims, and they were the people you sacrificed to gratify your own egos – and of course your online identities are important to you, or you wouldn’t cling to yours long after its Second Life counterpart had been deleted.”
If you’re referring to the other members that were banned as a result, no, they weren’t sacrificed by WU, they were sacrificed by the Emerald Devs. Actually, scratch that. I really have no idea whether it was the ED’s idea or LL’s idea to just can everyone with high ranking ownership status in WU. But WU wasn’t the one that made the decision over who to ban. Also, quite a few left SL for good after being banned.
“It’s like Gaara Sandalwood repeatedly claiming he wasn’t a griefer, and then having those chat logs reposted showing him participating in a raid each time, and then him joining a new thread and pretending it didn’t happen.”
Oh wow. To be honest, I just noticed this about ten seconds ago. I’m getting pretty popular, aren’t I? Usually the only people who actually address my presence here are those directly arguing with me already. Okay, I guess I may as well elaborate here, for the umpteenth time. I’ll do it in a very specific breakdown, since everyone that labels me a griefer that I explain this to seems to not care about the opinions of the one they’re persecuting and/or keep their fingers jammed in their ears screaming “LALALALALALALALALA I’M NOT LISTENING!” every time I do this.
-> There was a WU member called KFCMan Nexen, who decided to start shit and do raids.
-> Me, not wanting to actually do it out of sheer laziness, tagged along on a couple of them. Just to watch. Now, I know it’s a common perspective that I’m not completely innocent for sitting back and watching, like it’s a show, so no, I’m not claiming to be completely innocent, just not an outright griefer and bane of all that exists in SL.
-> KFC’s idea was a wash, because just about every sim he plans to try a raid in, get this, is utterly fucking empty. So, I mention in chat that it was lame, and another guy mentions this sim called Zeide Kamp. So I say, quote, “Okay, screw KFC’s fail plans, I’m visiting there”. Apparently, the person exchanging private chat messages sent that to the JLU from WU group chat. I didn’t plan on raiding it, I was just bored, but the JLU decided that was a que to kick into action.
-> I enter the sim to find Kara Timtam and Maverick Grunfeld, with Greenlanter Excelsior flying around with his fancy power ring on. Now, none of what was released in the private wiki regarding my chat comments were altered. I did say “JLU fag here, need /b/lackup”. Why I did was the misunderstanding. See, I was a hell of a newbie then. I had no clue what the JLU were at the time, I didn’t really read up much about them aside from alledged rumors that they AR at the drop of a hat and use whatever methods necessary to brand other players they think are doing something wrong griefers. So I did what caim naturally to someone in my position, because honestly, yes, I was a tad frightened.
-> Although I also knew at the time they couldn’t do anything towards me regarding getting me banned unless I really was griefing(which I wasn’t, unless standing around is griefing), I was also annoyed at the idea that these people were, as far as I knew, hounding people in a group that rarely started shit save for one or two times before the wiki leak, and harassing them. Even the people that didn’t do anything were being kept a watchful eye on by other normal players who thought, or at the very least acted as if, they had official power in the grid. Therefore, I just acted out of impulse.
-> What do ya know, the wiki is leaked soon after and what do I find in it about me? A AR report regarding the aforementioned furry pick I used to have do to some run-ins with those kind I’ve had prior. They really did try to pick as much out of em as possible to label me a griefer, or at least some form of being morally wrong. As if that’s not enough, they reported that I was trying to grief in one article and even started labeling me “WU raiding party member Gaara Sandalwood” in future articles after that had anything to do with WU members and WU in general.
-> “then having those chat logs reposted showing him participating in a raid each time”
-> It was one chat log. One. From the WU group chat. One, not numerous. I was a observer of….three, if my recollection serves me right, and all three were performed by KFC Nexen who chose a sim each time that was empty. So no, not numerous raids. Nice try though.
-> “and then him joining a new thread and pretending it didn’t happen.”
-> I never pretended it didn’t happen. I just stopped talking about it. I try not to be a broken record, but people have brought this up a few times regarding me being a griefer(one person even stated he sent notecards to various Jewish religion based sims owners, including Zeide Kamp, and told them I was a horrible griefer that needed to be kept out, which I fixed appropriately in a nice civil conversation with the owner of that sim and the surrounding sims), so, I just defend myself accordingly. Honestly, now it’s not a matter of defending myself, just proving the blatant idiots wrong who just bust in to bitch about it.
There, done with that, thank god.
“It’s called “denial”.”
That sounds like what you’re doing right now actually.
“It.
Is.
Over.”
Good to know, please move on. I want more relating to this whole hacktivism, not more blatant crap and bitching from people who refuse to let the past go and preach to high heaven about how bad a group no longer existing in SL is.
And now, hopefully, we can get back on track to the more relevant stuff.
Gaara Sandalwood
Sep 30th, 2010
“Hardly anyone knows him or ever saw him when WU was still around.”
That, times a thousand.
IntLibber Brautigan
Oct 1st, 2010
OH geeze, the drama is brewing. I see the JLU has a new sockpuppet posting here, a Mr. Tarheel McCoy. Possibly a resident of North Carolina given the first name, but definitely evincing the typical level of complete ignorance/lying BS that is the signature of a JLU propagandist.
Gundel Gaukelei
Oct 1st, 2010
If you can’t afford hiring sufficient amounts of police forces, your law is likely to be called terror.
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King Reggin
Nov 8th, 2010
Reported you fat basement dwellers to the FBI for supporting illegal activities. This site’s going down.