Coverage of Second Life Suspended for 48 Hours
by Alphaville Herald on 04/11/09 at 10:17 pm
Metaplace a mostly harmless substitute
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Naked Post 6 avatars, class action trademark and copyright legal battles, flaws in SL's digital rights management system, and the Lab's amazing perpetual drama pump coverage will resume this weekend – unless we get lost in Metaplace.
Kae
Nov 4th, 2009
I’m a content creator, and I don’t give half a shit. I’m not naive enough to bite the hand that feeds me and provides me with an easy and hassle-free way to earn money and get my kicks with the creative process. Content copying is simply part of the viewer, and trying to sue LL or hurt their economy to get their attention is just fucking dumb. I’ll be carrying on as normal.
These people need to get a fucking grip.
Sinden Lucks
Nov 4th, 2009
“Naked Post 6 avatars, class action trademark and copyright legal battles, flaws in SL’s digital rights management system, and the Lab’s amazing perpetual drama pump coverage will resume this weekend – unless we get lost in Metaplace.”
Well, as long as you believe Linden should be responsible to protect the IP of your precious prims, you’ll fall for the moronic ideas of what people do to provoke Linden in to protecting their precious prims. There are no flaws in SLs’ permission system, it does what it is supposed to do. The issue is the people in SL. Not Linden. It’s against the TOS to steal. There is no law in place that I am aware of that states that Linden is responsible to protect your prims and data. If you don’t like the service, host your own data.
Laughing At You
Nov 4th, 2009
you already posted SL content for the 4th,
so you failed it!
maybe you’ll be more “almost entirely symbolic” like on the 5th.
ROFL
Reverse Writer
Nov 4th, 2009
omg, they’re SERIOUS about content theft (!) I’m sure LL will hardly notice the loss of a couple hundred (and that’s being generous) avs not uploading textures or buying stuff and then 48 hours later running like drugged idiots to spend all that money they’ve been sitting on, thus entirely negating any impact they might fool themselves into thinking they’re having. This is a vanity group for people to congratulate one another for having the strength to not spend e-dollars for 2 days, screwing the content creators they’re allegedly trying to help.
And LL knows about content theft you idiots, they just don’t care, and I’m sure a children’s crusade of bored housewives and pixeldiddlers isn’t going to make them care any more.
Bunny Brickworks
Nov 5th, 2009
Funny how there are no well-known ‘artists’ or content creators in that organization. It rather seems like a bonfire of vanities for SCD staff!
Ssieth Anabuki
Nov 5th, 2009
Oh dear…:(
Some people just really don’t get it no matter how many times you tell them. The fundamental technological barrier in protecting SL objects is not something that LL can do very much about. It really is an impossible situation. SL _has_ to transmit the meshes and textures to your PC for rendering. In doing so it makes it possible to intercept, copy and then re-upload them.
It’s the same situation that people face when putting images on their web site.
Obvious Schism
Nov 5th, 2009
Er hang on a minute – you are suspending coverage of Second Life? In order to suspend something you have had to have already been doing that same something in the first place. I think I need to suspend belief.
cherry
Nov 5th, 2009
Lmao! This is so stupid, really. Noones going to participate. Everyone copies everyone even in rl and nothing is going to stop it, even this stupid group. What do you think lindens will do? People always going to find a way to copy. Why hurt designers and content creator? We are the one losing sales. Im not going to put any stupid sign in fron of my shop and gona shop even more cause most of the stores are open!! FAIL!
Senban Babii
Nov 5th, 2009
I’ll be publishing a blog each day of this “protest”, one specifically about content creation and one about social aspects of SL.
I’ll be going to my usual sandbox tonight to carry on learning to build and script, albeit badly. That will probably involve some uploads of textures and will certainly involve me sharing my (admittedly dreadful) content around with my friends for them to then play around with.
When content creators give a crap about consumer rights for a change, then maybe I’ll support something of this nature. I don’t for one second condone content theft but I also don’t condone content creators who ignore consumer rights and reasonable expectations of fair use.
Incidentally I note that the poll on the Artists’ Voice website shows that so far, 50% say they won’t be supporting this protest and only 29% saying they will.
anonymous
Nov 5th, 2009
YES RIGHT!!! DELETE THE COMMENTS
markbyrn
Nov 5th, 2009
What kind of journalistic rag is this? You’re suppose to REPORT on the protests not join them – report the event, who is supporting, who isn’t supporting, reaction from Linden, etc. etc.
Lili
Nov 5th, 2009
Sure, stop creating for two days. And while you do that, think of unique and innovative products to make that will excite people and make them want to buy them. I’ve got a little hint for all the crying creators, your sales are not down because are stealing your stuff. Your sales are down because of the economic slump and/or no one is interested in your stuff. I go shopping a lot and I see actual, real shoppers at stores that make exciting and unique fashions and other items. On the other hand, I go to stores that were big names last year and find no one there. Why? Everything is more fleeting in SL than in real life. You can’t make something and expect it to be all the rage for over a few months, unless you keep making it better, or keep making even more exciting items.
Yes, I know there is content theft. But, I really don’t believe it’s enough to sink a business. If it was, then where is all this stolen stuff being sold? I don’t really see it anywhere. Just tell me where to go and see it, then I will stand up with you. I do see a lot of junk in malls, but I don’t see anything of quality that I would recognize that is stolen. I think most of the stealing that is done, is actually people outfitting their alts. After they do that, they have copies of stuff and the temptation to give things to friends. I also see things that are copied to be able to alter them and make them usable. Personally, I just don’t buy no-mod. If it’s something I really want, I make it. But then again, this is another aspect of the content theft thing that eludes creators. Yo need great stuff and you need customer service and satisfaction! Make the most beautiful outfit in SL, make it no mod (cuz people gonna rip it otherwise) and then people are forced to use your body shape to wear it, or copy it so they can make it fit them.
No folks, you aren’t losing business because people are stealing from you! You are losing business because you are not innovating and you are treating your customers like criminals! Been awhile since I made things to sell. I saw that I didn’t have the talent to keep up. It was good stuff three years ago, but not now, haha. But, everything I sold was copy/mod and I had a policy of giving a deep discount if someone bought two of something to give one to an alt. Grow up people! Stop whining and blaming everything on someone else. And be creative! There is a thousand times more IP theft of real world items into SL than there is theft of SL IP.
Sorry to be so harsh, but it had to be said. Now drink your milk and off to bed with you.
JustMe
Nov 5th, 2009
Suspending content creation doesn’t solve anything .. it’s no different than the old “don’t buy gasoline for your car this Wednesday and we’ll show the oil companies what we thing” campaigns. All that happens is that gas sales go up on Tuesday and Thursday LOL but overall , it is a wash
Ari Blackthorne
Nov 5th, 2009
My heart bleeds purple blood for all you particiapnts.
Ouch for you.
http://commonsensible.net/2009/11/if-you-sell-thrones-boycott-linden-lab.html
Sinden Lucks
Nov 6th, 2009
“Some people just really don’t get it no matter how many times you tell them. The fundamental technological barrier in protecting SL objects is not something that LL can do very much about. It really is an impossible situation. SL _has_ to transmit the meshes and textures to your PC for rendering. In doing so it makes it possible to intercept, copy and then re-upload them.
It’s the same situation that people face when putting images on their web site.”
Well, that is a non technical layman’s terms for it, but yes, and exactly correct. I think most people should get past trying to explain this to the wonderful “content creators” of SL. Even if it were possible to encrypt or circumvent the layer, Linden wouldn’t be legally bound to enforce any actions or provisions for the protection of end users clients. So in layman’s terms, it’s not any different than any other shared host either. And why should it be? Why should Linden be held to any higher standards than any other host? The above shows how the uneducated respond to matters. And to quite frank, they have a link on their site to the DMCA regs and obviously don’t understand, or have never read it themselves. Getting involved with true legal DMCA issues is better left to those that know the law. And the five year olds that put up that site pointing to the DMCA is the equiv of a five year old with a loaded pistol. They have no clue. They are more dangerous to themselves than anything else.
Another fine example of why I left SL. I’ve been saying for years. There are far too many children in SL. Far too many. If I were to argue what I felt Linden has done the least about, and the poorest job of, it was keeping the kids out. This is a prime example.
Emperor Norton Hears a Who?
Nov 6th, 2009
So this means if any drama happens in the next two days in SL, well it just didn’t happen?
Sinden Lucks
Nov 7th, 2009
“So this means if any drama happens in the next two days in SL, well it just didn’t happen?”
No, quite the contrary, the drama you will witness, today, tomorrow and in the future, simply means that the parents have once again left their children in the hands of the nets largest baby sitter, Second Life.