Interview with Ian, from SimoleansPlus
by Alphaville Herald on 03/03/04 at 7:31 pm
In this interview we talk with high school student and TSO entrepreneur Ian, who, through his SimoleansPlus site carries on a brisk trade in simoleans, rare pets, other rare objects ranging from dead Christmas trees to TSO anniversary cakes, and last but not least: his business selling 14 day trial account codes. He talks about how he got into being a Simolean dealer, about various maze bots, and his high hopes for Nyk‘s Pizza bot, which is entering beta imminently.
Urizenus: So Ian, I just visited your site simoleansplus.com, and I see that you are much more than a simolean seller. What are some of the products you offer?
Urizenus: *your site
Ian: Simoleans, Rares, and now about to offer TSO Trial account codes.
Urizenus: Rare pets, but you also have other rare objects, no?
Ian: yes, like a tree, cake, and a maze.
Urizenus: Chistmas tree?
Ian: yep
Urizenus: how much does that sell for?
Ian: hmm about 5 or 6 dollars
Urizenus: and the cake is from …?
Ian: its from the 1 year anniversary.
Urizenus: ah, about the same price?
Urizenus: 5-6?
Ian: Yep
Urizenus: do you ever sell simmys?
Ian: I used to, but it has become hard to buy/find one, since exploits, made it aware to basically all founders what the item is worth.
Urizenus: so how much does a simmy go for these days?
Ian: Hmmm from what I have seen $70-80…more or less
Urizenus: wowzers. So I guess the question has to be, how come people want this stuff, given that it is basically… nothing?
Ian: lol, that is what i am trying to figure out too
Ian: For non-founders really, it means nothing…but it is more of a hmmm “memory” persay
Urizenus: I guess it is just one of the few objects that happen to be rare, hence valuable.
Urizenus: I guess what I really wanted to ask you about was the trial account code business. What is that exactly? What are you selling?
Ian: well trial account codes, are like registration codes, however they last for 14 days to the registrant. It’s a 16 digit code that is just like a register code You register them the same way you would a regular code on the simsonline homepage…
Ian: However many people find different uses for these codes.
Urizenus: Why would someone want a 14 day trial account?
Ian: well it is a register code, but not the ones you would buy in store
Ian: Good question
Ian: 1) Mafias….they love them….You can obviously guess why…to tag enemies
Urizenus: haha
Urizenus: good way to build your friendship web too I expect
Ian: 2)….with a trial account you get actually 15 days…not 14…sorry…it says 14….the first day you register doesn’t really count….but my point is you can retire 3 sims …..9 sims total on all the sims you can create
Ian: so…if you played in TC..you could potentially get 90k
Ian: or in any other city you could make up to 30k the whole period…or in one week you could make up to 50k
Ian: So if People wanted to buy these accounts for profit there it is
Urizenus: oh, I see, so you give the money to your main sim before you retire
Ian: Yes, well the owner of the account does
Ian: and 3) like you said for friendship webs…dont you remember the sims with 200+ sims on the friendship web….funny thing all the sims names looked alike
Urizenus: lol, but all this could change when the changes are institute to change the linking in friendship webs
Ian: Yes
Urizenus: will that kill this part of your business?
Ian: Oh it will damage
Ian: But there are always those money makers out there
Ian: I mean it’s like free money
Ian: you see 1mill on ebay goes to $45+ and rising!
Urizenus: Mafias will still need them, even if not to tag
Ian: Well I would think so, I don’t give out client info, but some people buy 100 codes+ and I know it’s not all for tagging
Urizenus: yup. So how much do you charge for a trial acct?
Ian: Right now 20,000 simoleans
Urizenus: How many clients do you have that buy in quantities as large as 100 codes?
Ian: Several
Ian: We have only been in operation since Saturday and haven’t really gotten the word completely out and we don’t have our site up…frankly I am surprised by all the orders
Urizenus: in different cities?
Ian: Mainly Alphaville, in fact I prefer alphaville
Urizenus: we all do!
Ian: LOL LOL, its the best
Ian: But we do have a few clients in BF
Urizenus: BF, hmmm I wonder who that could be. hehe
Ian: LOL
Urizenus: Do you have any nonmafia customers?
Ian: Hmm
Ian: Maybe 2 LOL
Ian: But I think I did get one reseller
Ian: But you can tell Mafias, obviously by the sim name, or where the hood is
Urizenus: ok, where do you get these things?
Ian: Sigh, a magician never reveals his secret
Urizenus: haha
Urizenus: Yah, but I can prolly find out anyway! The AVH knows all you know.
Ian: LOL
Ian: well you need patience, i will tell you that
Ian: Well not just patience, but a lot of time on your hands
Urizenus: lol, I won’t press you.
Ian: oh its fine i am used to it
Urizenus: But you haven’t automated the code finding process? Maybe this is a job for Nyk!
Ian: hmm two answers
Ian: 1) it will be automatic soon
Ian: 2) nyk lol, he is just too good, I don’t even think he would waste his time on this
Urizenus: hehe
Urizenus: You are still selling simoleans, no?
Ian: Of course
Urizenus: Do you produce your own, or do you have a supplier?
Ian: I produce my own
Ian: Also the codes give me simoleans
Urizenus: oh right, of course
Urizenus: Are you running any bots now?
Ian: Of course I am
Urizenus: lol, which bots do you recommend right now
Ian: www.mysimsonlinecheats.com is the only one I am aware of
Urizenus: Are you looking forward to the new bots that Nyk is working on?
Ian: Oh gosh, honestly I can’t wait, he was supposed to have a Beta out today, but he needs to make one more improvement
Urizenus: Are you short on inventory right now, or do you have a decent supply of simoleans on hand?
Ian: Well, I dont have that much on stock
Ian: But then again I haven’t received many consumers….I really have not made the site public yet, but it is open for business
Ian: But I have a good amount in stock
Urizenus: Do you think that Nyk’s new bots will lead to another price drop in the simolean?
Ian: Absolutely not
Urizenus: why not?
Ian: You see his last program the mazer…
Was super fast, on better pcs….2.4 GHZ P4+ made 3,000,000+ per PC
Ian: and many of us had multiply Pcs running
And every seller was in it. But the Pizza prog will be human speed or less
Urizenus: ic
Ian: its not nyk’s fault, or his skills
Ian: its just the way the game is
Urizenus: pizza takes time I guess
Ian: With the maze, there was a bug maxis never fixed with the “Celebration”, Where it says “You won $465″ and you had to press OK. That was meant to slow you down to wait for another maze
Ian: Also, when you beat a maze, you get about 20 seconds of the sims celebrating, However a maze kept restarting
Ian: So the celebrating let you maze in the red bars lol
Urizenus: lol,
Ian: but the pizza is not fast enough, because you have to wait for a call and put the pizza in the oven, which makes you stop
Ian: But there are some honest players who make $60,000+ per round of pizza
Urizenus: wow, so the bot should be able to do that too
Ian: Hmm, Well …
Ian: I am no programmer, but with pizza you have 3 choices per person
Ian: And with mysims bot it doesn’t always make the best choice. I watch it sometimes, and it could have made a better pizza than it did. sometimes it makes a “burn” when it could have made a pizza.
Ian: So I don’t know if nyk has a surprise for us, but it will most likely do 50,000-60k an hour
Urizenus: How long have you been in the simolean selling business?
Ian: Oh gee, Hmm since The end of January of 2003
Urizenus: How did you get into it?
Ian: Well I saw that simoleans back then for $250+per 400k
Urizenus: wowzers
Ian: No one ever sold a mill, lol
Ian: and I was playing in game, and when I was a “newbie” in January…(sigh *just missed the beta*..actually my CD’s didnt work) but anyways…i lived in MF and lived with a guy who was very generous
Ian: Looking back now…i think he exploited
Ian: He probably fed me $500,000 total
Ian: Then I saw a TSO exploit forum and instantly signed up
Urizenus: was that TSO Extreme?
Ian: Yep
Ian: There, I met Wholesale sellers, who really got me into it
Urizenus: When did you start farming your own simoleans?
Ian: You mean stop reselling?
Urizenus: yah, and start making your own.
Ian: Maze
Ian: lol
Urizenus: haha
Ian: My first mazer was revolutionary, but turned out to be shitty
Ian: have you heard of Acidics?
Urizenus: no
Ian: the “first” mazebot maker
Ian: it made 300k an hour back in …i forget when maybe right befor summer
Urizenus: oh ok, defunct now?
Ian: He sold the rights to the mazer
Urizenus: Can I ask you in rough figures what you made selling simoleans in the last year? Total sales i guess.
Ian: lol well compared to that 100k guy…
Ian: LOL
Ian: I probably made $6,000 total more or less
Urizenus: that’s after expenses?
Ian: I would take 500 off maybe
Urizenus: who do you think is the biggest simolean dealer on tso?
Ian: Two guys
Ian: SimoleanMan who has been in a while
Ian: and This new guy, TsoRealty
Urizenus: who is that?
Ian: he’s a new seller on the block I guess you could say lol…he builds houses in the game…and got into selling simoleans
Ian: He is just as good as johnny lace
Urizenus: …who retired
Ian: yes
Urizenus: what about http://www.realsimsonline.com/index.asp. Isn’t that a big seller?
Ian: i have never heard anything about them, i have seen the site
Ian: but i imagine with the traffic they get…
Urizenus: exactly
Urizenus: So how come you do this? Fun? Profit?
Ian: both
Ian: I love making money
Urizenus: haha
Ian: I have been able to buy a laptop and a pc and other small objects
Ian: its fun because it gives me something to do I guess, and makes other sims happy
Ian: but I am slowly understanding the concept of why people buy fake money and pay with real money
Urizenus: Do you have a r/l job?
Ian: Full Time student
Ian: Lol
Urizenus: What do you study?
Ian: sigh… English, Religion, Math, Spanish, Social Studies, Chemistry, Web Design
Urizenus: high school?
Ian: LOL, yes
Urizenus: lol
Urizenus: What do you say to the people on the Stratics Boards that say you are an immoral cheater who is ruining the game for good hardworking sims?
Ian: Well I am sure if they could, they would to
Ian: They don’t understand that this business creates jobs for those who want money
Ian: I really hate to sound like this but….doesn’t this country need more jobs? LOL
Urizenus: what do you mean they would if they could?
Ian: Well if they could get a hold of bots…most people don’t know how to find out about Mysimsonlinecheats.com
Urizenus: so you think the stratics boarders are just jealous that they don’t know how to do this?
Ian: most of them
Ian: but like I said those do gooders don’t understand the world of business opportunity
Scrambled1
Mar 24th, 2004
Well, I didnt visit this site in a while… And I know we made things up, thats why I posted that, because I didnt know if he said that before or after we got along.. lol.. well we gotta get along, because its just 23 of us on the BBS Ian
Im sorry for jumpin on you there