Ordo Imperialis — One of the Big 3 in SL Combat
by Alphaville Herald on 04/06/08 at 10:21 pm
by Vegna Fouroux
The last time the Second Life Herald covered The Ordo Imperialis was when Novus Ordo Imperialis disbanded. That’s all ancient history now. The Ordo Imperialis are now one of the Big Three in SL combat alongside their allies Merczateers and their enemies the Alliance Navy. I got talking their officer cadre after they graciously permitted me entry (usually a member of an enemy group is shot on sight in Titan be they armed or no) about the groups sucess, their leader and The Ordo in general:
Vegna Fouroux: How’s ordo at the moment?
Intus Infinity: Strong, and growing.
Kristian Kit: well ordo is expanding rapidly and well just to give you an impression AN is only 20 members bigger than our Terra (ground) division so you pretty much have a picture
Vegna Fouroux: Why do you think this is, what do you guys have to offer? over lets say the AN?
Kristian Kit: well from what i’ve heard from the cadet i recruited that came from the other armies we offer the best tech , training , we don’t let every morron join and above all others we have an healthy atmosphere in which we respect each other something several armies on this grid seem to lack having
Kristian Kit: we are not pricks to each other and people that come here for the RP and the fun like that it’s why we manage to keep the members that other militaries lost
Vegna Fouroux: Well several other armies have accused you of an atmosphere of oppression i.e not letting enemies onto base, summary executions of visitors without explanation and restriction of your members on visits to other military sims, why is this?
Kristian Kit: yes that is correct well for the official reason you might want to contact aryte but ordo is resolved around discipline we don’t just go anywhere and be all buddy buddy with people we take this community serious and well a lot of people out there are jealous or hate is in another way so to avoid drama and fights we are very strict about those regulations we think it is odd that you shoot someone in the first place and that he will allowed to come over when he drops his weapons we don’t allow them here so we rarely go to other people’s bases as well
Intus Infinity: It would be hypocritical of us to not allow enemies onto base yet go to their sims.
Vegna Fouroux: Well if you dont let members go to other militaries out of uniform and untagged, then when are they allowed time to themselves to explore?
Kristian Kit: SL is so much bigger than only the military community if you join ordo youve chosen to devote yourself to the ordo INSIDE the military community not in SL as a whole ah I see, but does this ever lead to a breakdown in communcation with other military groups and therfore resentment?
Intus Infinity: No.
Kristian Kit: we allow our men to go to allied factions
Intus Infinity: There isn’t a single case in history where we’re had a breakdown in communication or resentment due to absense on thier respective sim
Kristian Kit: and well everything we need to discuss with enemies will be done by our commanders
Mith Wakowski: And is done whenever the need arises.
Kristian Kit: there is nothing our enlistee’s need to discuss with our enemies
Vegna Fouroux: Ah yes, my next topic, Ordo are noted for their outstanding loyalty to their leader; Aryte. What is it about the Imperator that attracts such loyalty, your training?
Kristian Kit: his Intelligence
Kristian Kit: Aryte is by far the best leader i’ve seen in sl so far. this is basically because he is smarter than most of the others but he is also an RPer well he acts like a real leader
Intus Infinity: In real life he’s a university student majoring in Criminal Justice, with an outstanding grade point average.
Kristian Kit: he is smart, diplomatic and not corrupt well in my opinion the ordo stands or falls with aryte
Intus Infinity: Yes, he is not corrupt.
Vegna Fouroux: Indeed, does he take part in combat himself?
Kristian Kit: he does
Vegna Fouroux: In what role? Aerial, infantry?
Kristian Kit: in every possible way it depends on the attack- usually he is a ground soldier but during astra raids you shouldn’t be suprised to see him flying a fighter. he commands most assaults himself or someone in his name
it’s another reason why ordo is superior in my opinion. Ordo does not allow lone wolf attacks
Kristian Kit: every single attack needs to be announced and approved by the Imperator so we always attack in force – usually a small force but still a force despite what people accuse us off. We could swarm our enemies much more than we did thus far
Vegna Fouroux: Indeed, many have also accused the ordo of cheating via the titan weaponry you permit your troops to use in combat (albeit very few do)was that a wise decision?
Kristian Kit: let me clarify the hud. you are talking about sit hacking now right?
since i assume you wouldn’t have much problems with out movelock or barrier rezzer we have a goto: tool. the goto can work in 3 different ways. we have the goto preset destination. this works basically the same as the teleporters pretty much every military has. we make destination points around the sim such as the armory – that is legit in my opinion. then we have the goto camera – that one is a totally different problem, we don’t allow our personell to use that thing during assaults if it was used over 5m – basically we use it as breaches – if you notice us using it over longer distances during an assault
you will have us on your side if you start complaining about it. then we also have the goto person wich we also allow in combat let me clarify why. the goto person will teleport you to another person that is wearing the ordo hud. They work with servers so you can assume only ordo’s will be wearing it – this basically works exactly the same as opening an IM window and teleporting someone to your location
Vegna Fouroux: so a personal teleporter between the ordo then?
Kristian Kit: correct. basically a reverse teleporter. you don’t get tped but you tp to someone since it only saves us time and the effort to open IM windows etc we don’t see why we wouldn’t allow that
Vegna Fouroux: So are relatesonships with militaries (enemy ones that is) strained at the moment or are they going well? considering the recent attacks.
Kristian Kit: mhmm well as i mentioned earlier. we don’t go to our enemies bases and that regulation goes for both enlistee’s and officers as myself but i see an overall improvement – all the militaries are discussing about a new threaty so at least they are talking. i wouldn’t consider our relationships with them friendly if that’s what you mean
Vegna Fouroux: but workable? Do you see STABLE 2 happening in the near future?
Kristian Kit: well that would be a personal question rather than a general one
[8:32] Vegna Fouroux: heh
[8:32] Kristian Kit: i am not personally involved in those meetings nor have i seen any violations of rules they agreed, however some people have been reporting AN violating them but those are rumors
Next I got chatting to the Imperator himself; Aryte Vesperia.
The Imperator
Vegna Fouroux: So exactly where did the idea of Ordo come from (for readers who are not familiar)
Aryte Vesperia: I have always had a fond liking for all things Roman. The whole concept of a collective society, imperialism . . it just appeals to me. The Ordo was, in truth, designed at a spur of the moment. The organization that the Ordo succeeded was named the Venuma Coalition, which was tied to the region that it operated out of–Venuma. While I was on vacation one week, the owner of that region turned sour and betrayed us. So, I largely came up with the Ordo while eating cookies on the beach.
Vegna Fouroux: But you’ve come a long long way since then, what do you think has been the key to The Ordo’s success?
Aryte Vesperia: There’s hardly any single reason. But if I had to choose one, I’d say we’ve been blessed with a great deal of good fortune– it’s the day to day member that makes us what we are. Hard working, humble, benevolent people.
Vegna Fouroux: Indeed that is good to hear. A point that has raised some controversy with other groups (and also a topic I discussed with some of your officers earlier) is that you don’t allow enemies on base at all to socialise when they are unarmed and put restrictions on your enlisted to go to other enemy bases to catch up with friends, why is this?
Aryte Vesperia: That’s half right. Foremost, we do not disallow that someone visits an enemy base– that is dependant upon the specific enemy regulations on the matter. However, yes, you are correct on the first part: we do not allow individuals who are members of any enemy faction to visit out of tag and uniform. It is a policy we’ve followed well over a year now, for several reasons. Security; it’s simply much easier to count someone as hostile if they’re hostile, rather than “hostile . . sometimes!” Secondly, we run into too many befuddling politics otherwise. As in, allied parties showing up, fights breaking out. That sort of thing.
Vegna Fouroux: Ah I see, is the Ordo taking part in the STABLE II talks?
Aryte Vesperia: The Ordo is, yes.
Vegna Fouroux: And how do you feel they are going?
Aryte Vesperia: Heh, slowly. It’s difficult to achieve middle ground when you’ve put polar opposites at a table with the orders to “make good and figure this out.” For every gain we do manage, we add twenty more questions that need addressing. But, we’ll just have to deal with that.
Vegna Fouroux: And how are your relations with hostile groups as a whole? As good as they can be? or strained?
Aryte Vesperia: Depends largely on the organization. Heck, in some organizations, it depends upon which enemy officer you ask. Overall . . strained, is a fairly good explanation.
Vegna Fouroux: But improving?
Aryte Vesperia: There are hints of such, but I’m not so bold as to say we’re making any fantastic strides forward.
Vegna Fouroux: And are relations with your allies as secure as ever?
Aryte Vesperia: We’re quite blessed to share rather healthy bonds with all of our allied parties, actually. Incidents between members are scarce; problems between command staff are nonexistent. I think we benefit greatly by having the luxury of most our upper echelons being friends of old. For example, Anthony Lehane and Lurdan Huszar of the Merczateers are people Iâve known for years now.
Vegna Fouroux: so where now for Ordo? Can you see it growing further?
Aryte Vesperia: Oh, definitely. We’re actually facing an over abundance in manpower at this point. Recently, the entirety of our ranking structure had to be overhauled in order to accommodate the sheer number of active members. Even more, just earlier today we discussed purchasing a second region that we expect to have online within the next couple of weeks.
Vegna Fouroux: Heh, looking forward to it, well Aryte it’s been a pleasure, thanks for talking to me. Bye now
Aryte Vesperia: Not a problem. Good evening.
So despite the accusations, the slander and the rumours Ordo is still beating strong and will continue to do so for some time yet it appears.
Vegna sum, Ave atque Vale.
[*Novus Ordo Imperialis photo via Second Life Times]
Vasily Letov
Jun 5th, 2008
What do we learned from this ? That the herald makes only interviews about SL Military just as the SLMN ? Peuh…
That’s not journalism, that’s drinking coffee and eating cookies with a voice recorder…
Alyx Stoklitsky
Jun 5th, 2008
I haven’t seen so much bullshit group posturing and dickswinging since I played Zdaemon.
Harlequin Salome
Jun 5th, 2008
Fools! You follow a misconception…do you really think my plans have been foiled? Think again! Those tracking missiles directed at arriving enemy forces were only the beginning.
So what if I suck dick? So what if my family makes copper when someone drops a penny during our count-money-and-grow-noses stroll? And yeah, my male genitalia was downsized when the doctors slipped during the holy circumcision. It’s okay, I sued them and won more money I could pack in my nose and bag.
Kristian Kit
Jun 5th, 2008
one part of this article is a bit outdated. We don’t allow ANY goto tool in combat anymore
Dr. Internet
Jun 5th, 2008
Military “Roleplay” = People who are too chicken to fight in the real one.
Fox Mulgrave
Jun 5th, 2008
Wow… major bullshit.
Not the article itself, but the shit the interview-ees were spewing.
I am positive that this will be denied.. but I don’t especially care, as I know those who will try to deny it will be quietly screaming in their heads ”shit, why did I take part in that, it has given my group a bad reputation!”. A few weeks ago, someone who I didn’t know too well send me a Teleport into a sandbox, saying he had seen a ”big new military that was very unknown, and that I may be interested”. Intrigued, I accepted his teleport, and arrived in a rather laggy Sandbox. Things were still rezzing, and I was unable to see anything, or for that matter, anyone. It was at this point that my radar loaded, displaying around 10 Ordo members, the guy who TPd me, and Frequent guest of the Ordo, Ethan Schuman. It was at this point when some rather defiant part of me, still in denial said ”I’m standing next to Ethan, right?”, just to clarify what my radar had already told me. The reply came from Ethan himself, and consisted of ”Not for much longer”. Hell then breaks lose, Ethan and some of his Ordo chums attempt to use freebie push-guns to get rid of me. Realizing how this is failing, one of the Ordo members states ”they don’t work as well as they used to.”. Resorting to further griefing tactics, I find several thousand pictures of Super-Mario falling upon my head, and, lo and behold, a nice cager and orbiter combined into one, owned by one of the Ordo members.
Well, that’s my rant over. Just glad we all like fair combat.
And, in response to Kristan Kit’s comment about how the reason Ordo members are usually unable to visit other military SIMs because you need to be dedicated to Ordo,
-Bullshit. If a member of the Ordo visited another military sim, chances are, they’d leave Ordo and join the military in question, as, frankly, most other militaries are far more sociable, friendly, and, funnily enough.. -They don’t grief sandboxes-.
-Fox Mulgrave, AM Grand Marshal.
Bennie
Jun 5th, 2008
“Military “Roleplay” = People who are too chicken to fight in the real one.”
lol that’s some nice bullshit you’re spewing there.
Ever concidered the possibility that a lot of these military RP’ers might be military in RL as well? Bet you havent.
Personally, I’m not in the RL army (or navy or airforce), not because I’m ‘chicken’ but because I dont believe in violence ever solving anything. Pacifism has nothing to do with being a coward, nor does wanting to go to war has anything to do with bravery.
Wars are never won, the only difference between victor and loser in combat, is how many fine young men and women they sent to their deaths for some lame ass cause. Like oil or non existant WMD’s.
Sadly the biggest losers in any armed conflict are the families of the casualties. And they do not deserve that.
Deimos
Jun 5th, 2008
Bullshit Fox, I’ve seen all the 3 Major militaries, and they are all bad. The AN breaks their own treaties, Aryte is too afraid to fight and can’t seem to figure out how to remodel a sim, therefore it’s closed all the time, and the Merczateers have a very poor chain of command.
Trevor Russell
Jun 5th, 2008
Fox Mulgrave, I know nothing of the supposed above incident. Can you produce screenshots as proof? As I have served in many militaries throughout the SL Military community, I find Ordo to be one of the (if not the) most hospitable and pleasant group for members. I enjoy my comrades, and have not found a more interesting and engaging group. Despite our many detractors, some people just like us. We frequently engage in combat with 2142. Afterwords, we exchange mutual thanks, commendations, and general good feelings. They like fighting us, as we like fighting them. They understand that everyone has a better time when we lay aside petty bickering, false accusations, et cetera. Also, it would be appreciated if you do not call our policies “bullshit.” Those are our policies, Kristian is not making them up. They make sense. I don’t know if the Merczateers still work this way, but they used to allow unarmed hostiles in. Yeah, it seemed great. Until Meia Cosmos and Mikael Khalamov caught on. They would come over, be friendly, and then through grenades, right in the middle of the base. Not very good security, eh? What’s more, AN did not reciprocate. Typically, Merczateers who entered Dorien were shot (as I remember at least) whether armed or not. (For time reference, this example was during the time of late spring to mid summer, 2007). Also, to “Harlequin Salome”… O.o (assuming that is the real Harlequin).
Per-Vert
Jun 5th, 2008
You would accept a TP from anyone Fox…
Why would a “big” military hide on a sandbox ? Peuh…
Judge Hocho
Jun 5th, 2008
I really have no insight as to how things operate now, and am relegated to the meanderings found in the Herald as my sole source … with that said I find myself in an odd position of agreeing with Aryte (vis-’a-vis the policy concerning hostile organizations level of access — or lack thereof).
It’s a good policy, regardless of which side of the fence you fall.
Aryte Vesperia
Jun 5th, 2008
“Hard working, humble, benevolent people.” Yeah I come up with a lot of good lies….as if my people are humble….they’re always trying to kill me, give me rabies shots, or pet me….usually kill me though >.< Always want my power…
Caine Constantine
Jun 5th, 2008
“Wars are never won, the only difference between victor and loser in combat, is how many fine young men and women they sent to their deaths for some lame ass cause. Like oil or non existant WMD’s.”
Bennie, every war in history was related to some lame ass cause? The biggest loser in your scenario appears to be the legacy of the men and women who died for our country only for it to be revealed that their lives ended meaninglessly because of “some lame ass cause.” Go look at the Civil War. Go look at the World Wars. Go look at revolutions and wars for succession.
They were all about a lot more than “some lame ass cause”
Pacifism may not be cowardice, but ignorance is no good either. Violence solves lots of things. It would be nice to do things diplomatically instead but sometimes it can not happen. America was founded in part through a violent revolution and as a result tossed off the yoke of British imperial domination. We now celebrate it every year. Just one example.
Sentiment
Jun 6th, 2008
Except that’s not really Aryte who commented. He uses punctuation.
Steve319 cao
Jun 6th, 2008
Sometimes I think Fox just posts shit because he likes seeing himself on the thread do you really expect us to take the word of a young man who was photographed in his own hub last week camping people as the rezzed I don’t claim to know Aryte overly well but have found him to be one of the more decent and easy to talk to leaders on the grid the same can be said of Ethan who I do consider a long term friend despite us not always agreeing on things I would urge readers not to take the word of someone with a proven record of criminal activity but rather take ordo on there own personal experiences with them.
also I cant for the life of me understand why Vegna seemed so shocked regarding the ordo enemies policy’s thats kind of like ringing the tale ban up and asking them round for pie.
Sol Cult
Jun 6th, 2008
O luuk what tiem it es, raep o’clock Aryte…
Judge Dredd
Jun 6th, 2008
@ Bennie
“Wars are never won, the only difference between victor and loser in combat, is how many fine young men and women they sent to their deaths for some lame ass cause. Like oil or non existant WMD’s.”
Moron, the above example is a stupid war. There are real reasons to take up arms. You’ve heard of WWII? I bet the people that were being either exterminated or conquered by the Axis nations didn’t think the Allies’ cause was so “lame”.
These “military” people in SL are drama queens as bad as those who are in Gorean sims. Well, at least the Goreans include sex.
Eye Korobase
Jun 6th, 2008
@Deimos
Wow, you hit that dead on the head. Sounds about right to me.
I am at least happy that there is some more news on the military scene; Although no one covered the news on Merczs first battle back against AN.
The only thing that really bugs me about Ordo is that they almost never get attacked yet they won’t go anywhere to help their allies and just stay at their base just waiting to be attacked. At times, they do come to badnairk and help out, but still. I feel that if they would come and just hang out and be more friendly, I would think our ally with them would be stronger.
Reality
Jun 6th, 2008
All wars are based off of the worst possible reason … Human Nature. we are – at base – a race of murderers, thieves, despots etc …. The rare exceptions to this rule Shine Brightly and then die out, leaving only a mention in some conqueror’s history texts.
When boiled down this far – ALL war is insane. All reasons – those caused by the actions of a despot, the despot’s reasons …. ALL of them, lead back to that base core of Humanity.
Sorry – we fail as a race. Someone please hit the big, red, nuclear reset button.
JIm Herbst
Jun 6th, 2008
Aryte and I have a super close relationship. We’re great friends. We’re like fuck buddies except with guns =D. Every night or so him and I will teleport away to any empty sim, put a skybox up 700M above the ground and make sweet love. He’s got a very long cock and large round testiciles, ripe for the licking.
Fox Mulgrave
Jun 6th, 2008
steve319 -
I honestly couldn’t give a fuck what you think about me, or my reasons for posting. Some may say that you post back to me in an attempt to score points. This too, is my interpretation.
As for the ”photographed in his own hub last week camping people as the rezzed”, that, is utter bullshit. Again.
I think you will find were you to figure out how to save pictures from SL onto your Hard Drive, and to post it here, that I didn’t kill ANYONE in the hub. I was infact in the hub to deflect a homophobic comment made by one of my men, trying to do my job in the public relations side of things. If you don’t believe me on this one, ask your own Stirling Trafalgar, who claimed to quote the deflectionary comment that I made.
*Fox gives steve319 the ”common comma, Boxed”*
I think that just about covers it.
-Fox Mulgrave
Bennie
Jun 6th, 2008
yes Judge Dredd, EVEN WW2 only has seen victims.
What is the result of the allies actions and their ‘guilt’ feeling for the Jews? Kicked a LOT of Palestinians out of their homes and country to found the nation of Israel, and thusfar, that has only caused problems. As long as Jerusalem and the rest of the country is devided in two, there will never be peace there.
Yes, the allies did some good during ’39 – ’45, but arms were taken up before Britain, the USA, Canada and all the other allied nations joined in, and that’s exactly what I meant.
Reality above got what I meant – we fail as a species because for some reason, we feel like we need to fight. Let it be religion, land or wealth – or simply hatred for the ones who are ‘different’ – it doesnt really matter, war = bad. ALL wars, not just the current ones. Gulf War 2, Gulf War 1, Vietnam, Korea, WW2, WW1, pick any war. They were all started for the wrong reasons.
Call me a goddamn hippie, and I’ll wear the title with pride. Peace is the only way, and conflicts can be solved without fighting, if only everyone would behave like adults and talk about it. But alas, that seems to be too much trouble for the human race.
Sometimes I can definately understand the ‘elite’ furries that dislike the human race (despite being humans themselves); humans suck ass big time.
“Do onto others as you would want to be done upon yourself” – most important message in all religions. (and still that is too easily ignored…)
Or, as my mother would say if me and my sisters were bitching at eachother – Where there’s two fighting, both are guilty.
vegna fouroux
Jun 6th, 2008
Steve how am I shocked, seriously leave SL already..you realize no one respects you?
UnReality
Jun 6th, 2008
Hey Reality, let’s start with you…
Post your RL address, leave the door unlocked, and put a couple of steak knives in the doorway.
You fail.
Anonymous
Jun 6th, 2008
You’re a dumbass, “Reality”. Go become an hero.
Mikael Khalamov
Jun 6th, 2008
I’d have to disagree with you, Bennie, as far as the WWII thing goes. The Allies’ cause was just, even if their means at times were not (bombing of Dresden, for example). Plus, the Axis nations attacked the Allies first. You can’t expect the Allies to simply sit there with their heads up their asses trying to use peaceful means to stop the Nazi and Japanese war machines.
While it is true that the situation in Israel/Palestine is unfortunate, I think it is better than the alternative that would have come to fruition had the Allies not defeated Germany: Total annihilation of an entire culture. If Hitler had been allowed to continue, I have no doubt in my mind that at least a hundred million people would have been killed all over Europe.
So yeah, whether you like war or not, the Allies’ cause in WWII was just.
On a side note, to all those people who complain about the nuking of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, well, it’s better to nuke two cities and wipe out 300,000 people than to invade and end up with the death of over a million.
anon
Jun 6th, 2008
>On a side note, to all those people who complain about the nuking of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, well, it’s better to nuke two cities and wipe out 300,000 people than to invade and end up with the death of over a million.
for a guy with a soviet name you sure don’t know much about russo-japanese relations and the “TEH ATOM BOMB WON THE WAR” myth
the atomic bomb’s detonation was much less of a factor in the Japanese surrender than was the Soviets entering the Eastern war. the same “DERP THE JAPANESE CIVILIANS WOULD FIGHT TO THE DEATH IN THE STREETS” meme being trotted out by nuclear weapons apologists backfires when you realize that if the Japanese government was in support of the general populace fighting the invaders as an insurgency they wouldn’t care if a couple minor cities got destroyed. if that were the case, the firebombing of Tokyo would have caused the surrender – a much more lethal attack.
big sticks don’t win wars
Ethan Schuman
Jun 7th, 2008
Just as a matter of clarification:
The incident Fox speaks of did occur. He leaves out a few key points however. If you aren’t interested in laughing at how badly Fox got himself owned, please skip the next paragraph.
Firstly, we were indeed in a public sandbox. The particular sandbox we were in, however, was none other than the very sandbox provided to residents by LL for the EXPRESS purpose of weapons testing. Fox did indeed receive a teleport from a six day new account with no payment info onto the platform assembly that I had constructed to demonstrate a new heavy weapon to the Ordo (thus explaining why such a large group of them, including Aryte, were there). Fox then began to rant and whine as is so typically his style, and then asked the question “I am standing beside Ethan Schuman, correct?”. At this point, having already equipped the very first handgun I ever bought in SL, a Shatner Classic Arms Glock 20, I switched from my heavy cannon to the pistol, replied “Not for much longer,” and fired a round at Fox in hopes the weapon’s mild push would be enough to remove him from the platform. I was quite dismayed to see it no longer worked. Fox noticed this and asked another question, “Resorting to griefing now, are we Schuman?”. Considering that the whole purpose of our presence was to test a heavy weapon, I figured now would be a time to kill two birds with one stone. Quietly swapping the regular ammo out of the cannon with a parody Aryte Magic: The Gathering bullet, I responded to Fox in the following manner. “Griefing? You think THAT’S griefing?” With all Ordo members present also being in Ventrilo, it was easy to warn them to back away from Fox. Upon readying the cannon for fire, I added to my response, with the following line: “Allow me to enlighten you.” With that, I opened fire on Fox with the cannon I had come to test: a cannon with a rate of fire of 8,000 rounds per minute. The sheer volume of physics collisions was enough to launch poor Fox off the platform and send him flying to the other side of the sim, much to the amusement of all parties present. After a long round of laughter, we all returned to Titan. The end.
Anon, the reason why the Japanese surrendered was indeed in fact because of the atomic bomb, but it was not for the reason you might think. After both bombings, the Japanese generals were nearly unanimous in their desire to continue fighting even into a land battle. However, Allied intelligence had done a magnificent job in creating the illusion that we had multiple bombs, and that the next one would be used on Tokyo. This was not the case, and had the Japanese continued the fight, it would have been at least another six months before the Allies would have had another bomb, six months during which countless lives would have been lost.
Reality
Jun 7th, 2008
to both ‘UnReality’ and ‘Anonymous’ …. How about you go back to whatever cave you crawled out of and continue on your devolution back to the very ooze humanity came from in the first place?
Thank you both for proving my point concerning Humanity.
Have a nice day and remember: You are both unfit to ever bear children.
Caine Constantine
Jun 7th, 2008
“if that were the case, the firebombing of Tokyo would have caused the surrender – a much more lethal attack.”
That’s ridiculous. We firebombed Tokyo multiple times. Nothing happened in terms of moving Japan’s government closer to surrender, though we managed to kill a number people equal to those who died at the hands of the atomic bombs.
That’s the problem with the country being run by militaristic barbarians. Only the atomic threat, which could reach even Japan’s barbaric leaders, could goad them into surrender.
Vegna Fouroux (real Vegna)
Jun 7th, 2008
Keep your petty squabbles with each other under your own name please. Steve I’m shocked because it was a different procedure to any other military.
Raideur Ng
Jun 7th, 2008
The Ordo exist with plentiful numbers and effective tactics.
No one can really dispute this, therefore, this article is correct.
Unreality
Jun 7th, 2008
@ Reality
You’re the one who wants to push the big red nuke button and destroy humanity, “Sorry – we fail as a race. Someone please hit the big, red, nuclear reset button.”
Is this not your post? Why can’t you overcome your mangina and take responsibility for your post?
So if you want to wipe out humanity, as you obviously stated on your post, why don’t you grow a pair and accept responsibility and be the first? Post your RL address and we will take care of you. Can’t live by your own words? Then shut the fuck up. Ooh, do I hear chickens clucking in the background.. here Reality, Reality, cluck cluck. Come here, let uncle Unreality pluck your feathers.
Bennie
Jun 7th, 2008
“That’s the problem with the country being run by militaristic barbarians.”
To quote Goober from the Revenge of the Nerds movie(s): “We got Bush!”
Problem with violence? It only starts new or more violence. WW2 ended, but brought on the cold war. And that seemingly ended… but where did the weapons now used agaisnt US soldiers in the middle east come from? Oh yeah there was this little thing of the US training these guys to fight for them. But they turned agasint the US… whoopsie.
And the victory agasint the British opressors longer ago? Did that end any violence? As far as I can judge, the US isnt exactly a very peaceful place. I’m willing to bet it would be more peaceful if it were still part of the United Kingdom.
Jesus’ message wasnt exactly “if someone strikes your cheeck, Whoop dem bitches asses GOOD!”
Reality
Jun 7th, 2008
UnReality – Apparently child, you’ve never gotten the hang of opinion, nor of personality or world view.
Shall we take you at your own words then?
Please provide me with YOUR Real Life name, address, telephone number, Social Security Number, Criminal Background, Medical History and any other information which could possibly be handed over to the proper authorities.
Should you somehow manage to find the information you have requested from me, you will be greeted by a Colt .45, given a single warning to get the hell off of my property while being shot once in each kneecap and then once in one of two places – depending on how you fall over: The back of your skull or your face.
The best part?
Unless you somehow have the brains to show up without a weapon of any kind, I am well within my right to self defense.
Now then Child – I suggest you return to school as quickly as possible and study up on your material concerning personality, attitude, world view and any other lessons you may have missed to make you the poster child for abortion.
UnReality
Jun 8th, 2008
Hey Reality,
You are the classic example of the double-talking blow-hard coward whose words mean nothing.
Again, you’re the one who suggested that “Sorry – we fail as a race. Someone please hit the big, red, nuclear reset button.”
Aren’t those your words verbatim? Isn’t the meaning of it that you view human existence as so horrid that you’re willing to exterminate the human race? Or am I somehow misinterpreting your meaning?
All I am doing is to take your brave suggestion and have it apply to you first. Since you’re willing to condemn the human race to the garbage heap shouldn’t we condemn you first?
Instead, all we are getting is backtracking… “oh no, not me. You come near my house and I will shoot you.” So what makes you so special, Mr. Reality, that you can be so dismissive of our species but yet you stand out as that one shining example that should preserved, even with violence? Doesn’t that make you on par with those “despots” in your first worthless rant?
bitches.
Jun 8th, 2008
Anything ‘Reality’ and ‘Unreality’ said above, is exactly the kind of shit that makes some people want to fly aircraft into your buildings.
Worst part is, you guys dont keep this shit within your own borders, nooo, you flood the world with it.
9/11 didnt came outta nowhere either you know…
Dear US of A.
We’re tired of your shit. Please cut it out.
Sincirely, the World.
Jester Spearmann
Jun 8th, 2008
This has gone way out of hand you’re all acting like a bunch of children over an article that nobody forced you to read. Seriously get a life please and stop the drama
anon
Jun 8th, 2008
lol reality you’re the kind of trigger-happy retard that makes anyone with a firearm look bad
i hope someone wanders onto your property by accident one day so that you can be charged with threatening exhibition of a deadly weapon (usually a felony) and banned from owning one _fooooooreeeeeeverrrrrrr_
Tracy Laszlo
Jun 8th, 2008
Military “Roleplay” = People who are too chicken to fight in the real one.
Consider your theory just blown to hell – I am a Vietnam Vet 10 years active duty USAF – honorably discharged who loaded B-52′s out of Anderson AFB GUAM in Operation Bulletshot and Archlight bombing Hanoi and Cambodia 12-72. GOOGLE it.
You do not know what the hell you are talking about fool.
Tracy Laszlo
SPARTA Air Marshal
Reality
Jun 9th, 2008
to both UnReality AND anon:
Again, kindly go back to school and relearn all the basics.
Including the one about asking for clarification instead of being the usual internet trash who find it amusing to post the kind of shit the two of you seem to view as witty, intelligent and normal discourse.
Had you asked for clarification you may have learned that while I despise Humanity as a whole I do believe that there are exceptions to the kind of trash our race has become.
The two of you however … are certainly not exceptions.
Now then – each of you individually: UnReality – I will direct you once more to my prior response to you and again insist that you follow that advice and do not bother even attempting to post anything at all on the internet or anywhere else until you do. apparently your people skills do not exist, nor do your deductive reasoning skills. Any half wit would have asked me a simple battery of questions BEFORE being as clueless and brainless as you were in your initial response.
I am still waiting for YOUR real life information UnReality: Perhaps the reason you have not given it is that all you can do on the internet is make badly thought (what thought?) responses directed at people?
Anon – Try reading my response a second time Dearie: such an action is reserved for useless children like UnReality whose sole purpose appears to be making threatening responses to other people’s comments as well as comments with no substance or thought whatsoever.
I will give you the same advice I gave UnReality: Go back to school and relearn all the basics of interacting with people. Maybe then you’ll be an exception to the lump of waste that is Humanity.
In any event – I am done with both of you. Once more, thank you both for being the poster children for abortion and my own viewpoint concerning Humanity as a whole.
Eye Korobase
Jun 11th, 2008
why do each of these reports on the comments of Sl militaries, ALWAY end up talking about shit that happened in the past, Like 9/11 and WW2.
Intus Infinity
Jun 16th, 2008
Fox Mulgrave, you failed at trolling the Ordo with invalid arguments.
Next time, you should actually have EXPERIENCE before spewing your own shit.
Savage Finesmith
Oct 20th, 2008
Well same Ordo put a hack script into the armor and weapons so as soon as you wear the armor the leaders get your password and username, so basicly anyone who joins are slaves to ORDO!!!!
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