Rose Thorn Community Welcome House Takes top spot from scammers
by Alphaville Herald on 20/05/04 at 4:53 pm
Kudos to the Rose Thorn community for opening a house in the welcome category and knocking the infamous scam house run by Mr President Bradley out of the top spot in welcome. Hopefully this will help prevent newbie sims from being fleeced and verbally abused on their first day in game. Although the Rose Thorn community is controversial among some AV citisims (like ::cough:: Dyerbrook) because of their BDSM lifestyle, this can only be good news if it sticks. We note that the Capitol of Alphaville (run by the AVG) has all but disappeared, and a mysterious property known as the AV Knights Templar has moved into number 4. Are they a force for good or evil? Long live the Knights of Rhodes!
Here arethe current rankings….
And here is the scammer property run by the Bradley’s knocked out of first in a most humiliating fashion. Let’s just say they were “collared” by the BDSM crowd.
Yes! Thats Great!
May 20th, 2004
Last week it was the greening house that had the top spot lets check back next week and see who has the top spot..I have a prediction or two on who it will be, but we will see.
Mr-President
May 20th, 2004
Hey, it hasn’t disappeared- it hasn’t been open in two weeks.
It’s opening tonight though.
Good job SirJohnny and RTG!
Dyerbrook
May 21st, 2004
Oh great Uri :cough cough cough: Before, new players landing on scam lots if they were that clueless just got their simoleons taken away and their dignity a bit trampled. Now their souls will be raped and they will be sucked into the TSO Heart of Darkness. Just what you’d want for the online youth of America and the world, hmmm?
And you’re happy to play a part in shilling for it, eh?
It’s worth saying it again because few people seem to remember: slavery and violence are wrong. Wars have been fought and won over these values. A horrible war is being fought now where our people have terribly disgraced these values and harmed other vulnerable people by enslaving and sexually humiliating them and using violence on them.
I suppose only such a country involved in such horrors could produce a game where the top welcome lot for innocent players is a house inducting them into a lifestyle that celebrates such enslavement, violence, and humiliation as some kind of play, entertainment, and sick human connection, and not only takes pleasure in it, but defends it as a right and a duty.
I am ashamed.
Mimiru
May 21st, 2004
Pfft…Great,just what we need.
Now we have even more child molesters and pimps playing the game.
I am Debra Messing BTW.I live with the glorious Bradley’s,and if anyone thinks that a sex house is staying on top you are clueless.Even if I have to bring them down myself,using,::ahem:: methods,I will not let a bunch of horny pervs take over the coveted #1 welcome lot spot !
Merry We Meet,Merry We Part,Merry We Meet Again
-Mimiru
(AKA Debra Messing)
Tony montana
May 21st, 2004
I would like to see how long this will last til they are knocked off the first spot by another house.Welcome always seem like a easy one to win but in AV it pretty hard these days.
toy
May 21st, 2004
why do so many of the ‘uninformed’ automaticaly relate a BDSM house to sex and violence?? kinda boggles this girls mind
I expect dyers responses to never change since he has been humiliated in the past by his mindless ramblings 
Toy no longer plays TSO but stays informed of the things going on… toy does log in once in every couple weeks tho to see old friends
In closing it makes this girl proud that twice now, with hardly any effort, a BDSM house has taken 1st spot in Welcome
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toy
May 21st, 2004
why do so many of the ‘uninformed’ automaticaly relate a BDSM house to sex and violence?? kinda boggles this girls mind
I expect dyers responses to never change since he has been humiliated in the past by his mindless ramblings 
Toy no longer plays TSO but stays informed of the things going on… toy does log in once in every couple weeks tho to see old friends
In closing it makes this girl proud that twice now, with hardly any effort, a BDSM house has taken 1st spot in Welcome
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justasim
May 21st, 2004
There really needs to be just a normal welcome lot in the top spot. A real welcome lot that is kind to people. A lot that will take the time to help a new player. I know if I bought my 15 year old this game and we logged in and i saw that in the welcome catagory as the top welcome lot I would take the game away right away. It may not mean anything bad, but just the context its not something teens need to see, or be exposed to. ( That doesnt mean you are doing wrong) It jsut means you need to think abotu who may be starting this game. Well maybe a real good welcome lot will get that spot soon we can only hope.
Jessica McPherson
May 22nd, 2004
It’s their way of life!
If you don’t like how they play the game then go cry in a different corner and stop giving your bs here.
You don’t HAVE to visit that lot you know. And I think new players will relize that it is a BDSM lot by simply reading the property description.
savannah
May 22nd, 2004
I automatically relate sex and violence to the BDSM group due to the very nature of the name itself, in particular Sadism and Masochism. One involves gaining pleasure (sexually) by inflicting pain on another person and the other involves gaining pleasure (sexually) by being the recipient of pain.
The cause of pain can be violent; if it were not so then there would be no need for a safe word to stop the course of action should it get out of hand.
Many people have ended up in hospital because their BDSM games caused accute physical harm, and sometimes death.
I looked into this lifestyle by visiting many sights, and one of the most disturbing things I saw was a picture of a woman dressed in sex garb with her ass and thighs whipped into bloody welts.
If this doesn’t constitute sex and violence, I guess I don’t know what does.
toy
May 23rd, 2004
yes this is done as a part of BDSM…. but there is so much more involved in BDSM… a few words come to mind…. Trust, Honor and Loyalty are just a few… people in the community dont ask that everyone join in, we dont beg acceptance what is expected is courtesy and respect in a BDSM home… something any house in AV should expect.
As a side note…. toy is now a mentor in SL and helps newbies arriving… there has been a huge influx of people from “There” the last few since the demise of “There” is emminent. It seems a lot of the talk among the new people coming to SL is that TSO will be next. “There” took a huge hit in GOM yesterday also.
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humdog
May 23rd, 2004
there is at least one apparently normal welcome lot in alphaville, and it’s called shoehorn’s retreat.
Ian
May 23rd, 2004
Dyer, I agree with half what you have to say. However if you don’t like how this country is interacting in the world, please by all means, LEAVE! Love it or LEAVE it!
JessicaMcPherson
May 23rd, 2004
“there is at least one apparently normal welcome lot in alphaville”
You don’t even know what normal is…
Mistress Maria Laveaux
May 23rd, 2004
In all Honesty, the Rankings mean little to me. The Moralistic arguements over our chosen lifestyle are old ground, and have already been covered about as thoroughly as possible.
As i see it, All that is being done here is arguing whether the Scammers are Morally superior to us. Personally, I don’t see it.
It seems to me, If new sims, Real People as some so easily forget, find they prefer a home where they will be treated with Courtesy, Honesty, Respect, and Genuine caring over houses where they are Robbed, and berated, it is not such a hard thing to understand.
Soon, someone else will take top spot, Changes are Inevitable. I only hope, for the sake of the new players, it is someone else with Our level of Personal Integrity.
Maria.
Lady Grace
May 24th, 2004
I’m thrilled to see SirJohnny and His roomies in the top spot in the Welcome Catagory. This is a friendly house…and one of 8 “Fortress of” properties started originally by Me. Anyone who believes that all BDSM properties are evil has not visited one. All are welcome and there is no bigotry allowed in any of them. The home owners are kind and respectfull to All who visit. Please don’t close your minds to new things. It is not all about sex, Friends ….come visit us, and find out for yourself. You will be greeted warmly and well cared for while in ANY of the Fortress Properties in AV – you have My word.
Daruma
May 30th, 2004
For those of you who disapprove of BDSM: If you don’t like it, then stay away from that lifestyle. That’s right, you have a *CHOICE* to have absolutely nothing to do with BDSM, just like there are some people choose to be submissive.
If BDSM goes against your values, fine. Just don’t push your ideas of what’s right and wrong on others. I have yet to see the BDSM do this to anyone outside their realm. People all over the world need to live and let live, period!