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62 Responses to “Griefer’s Delight – Live Help Discontinued”

1. 

   Billie Scaggs
   

   Apr 26th, 2007
   

   It is important to remember that the creators of the objects are just that, the creators. My statement does not imply that they were behind the attack because truthfully the attacker remains anonymous.
   Um, its Scaggs not Scraggs
2. 

   Hazim Gazov
   

   Apr 27th, 2007
   

   I came ;_;.
3. 

   Hazim Gazov
   

   Apr 27th, 2007
   

   No, seriously, great idea Linden Labs, finally making some changes for the better.
4. 

   Anonymous
   

   Apr 27th, 2007
   

   spamtex: griefer tool or contraceptive device?
5. 

   Panda
   

   Apr 27th, 2007
   

   Add to that the fact that busy mode often fails to prevent spam from popping up on your screen anyway, and you have a griefers delight.
6. 

   Just Cat
   

   Apr 27th, 2007
   

   Today I was with a friend on an Island (Waterworks) looking at purchasing a script when my friend was hit by something shot at him. He exchanged ‘words’ with the 4 or more people over their juvenile behavior, and then they began a massive attack on us both. It was a constant bombardment for at least 10 minutes of different weapons and verbal harassment. My friend and I sat on a box and he used some of his own stuff in retaliation, items of a much better quality and more usefull. I have no experience in this kind of thing and I’d never been through a griefing episode before so I just sat there and “experienced” it. Then… Spam Monkey and MasterSpam. Similar to what you’ve described in your article. It took a long time to get rid of it, and no help until someone with permissions apparently shut down the Island (or maybe the crap these guys were tossing at us shut it down). I wasn’t phased personally, but I was pissed off that the people who run this game have stopped being available at the moment we need them most.
7. 

   Artemis Fate
   

   Apr 27th, 2007
   

   Won’t someone think of the CHILDREN!?
8. 

   Jim Schack
   

   Apr 27th, 2007
   

   This is a good thing! Any Linden will tell you 99.99% of all help requests are newbies asking to put on hair or asking what button to press to fly.

   Why it’s good is Lindens are now able to focus more time on abuse reports and insuring the grid is online instead of having to wipe newbie’s noses all day. Not to say I hate newbies, there are people that are willing to help. But when the grid is under attack there’s more important things for liaisons to do than teaching new comers to attach items.

   For any estate managers trying to deal with the new grid attacks or the old doomsday device it’s so simple; Turn off collisions then return scripted objects. Parcel owners: TURN OFF PUBLIC BUILD!

   Pool’s open! =D
9. 

   Luca Vasilopita
   

   Apr 27th, 2007
   

   Due to severe lack of AIDS.
10. 

    Inigo Chamerberlin
    

    Apr 27th, 2007
    

    However Jim, I’m not inworld 24/7. So what happens if I’m not around?
    Or should I leave collisions off permanently, build off permanently?
    HEY! Here’s an idea, why not just close the sim to outsiders?
    Better still, why not save several hundred US$ a month and shut the whole damn thing down?

    ‘Maybe if we stop answering the phones, the customers will stop BUGGING us’ was in fact a joke – trust Lunatic Lab to take it SERIOUSLY!
11. 

    Nacon
    

    Apr 27th, 2007
    

    Oh sure…. now it’s all Lindens fault… idiot, it seem like Billie and Issa Scraggs did a good job pissing someone off.

    It’s just another garbage news.
12. 

    Inigo Chamerberlin
    

    Apr 27th, 2007
    

    Ah, Nacon…

    So, if someone gets griefed it’s THEIR fault? THEY must have pissed someone off?
    Griefers are only really people with well justified grievances which they reasonably and evenhandedly settle – by breaking the TOS? It’s not the GRIEFERS fault at all?

    Tell us – if you ever reach puberty, do you think you might stop…

    1: calling everyone you don’t agree with an idiot?

    2: get a clue about life?
13. 

    Ordinal Malaprop
    

    Apr 27th, 2007
    

    llGiveInventory to avatars is not limited by distance; you can run a spam script like this from anywhere, regardless of whether scripts are turned off on the target’s parcel, or the whole sim is locked down.
14. 

    Carigorp Matzerath
    

    Apr 27th, 2007
    

    Unfortunately, there is little to no defense against this weapon. Calling the Lindens would have done nothing for you. Currently, there is no way to deny textures before they appear on your screen and there is no way to know where the textures are coming from. The JLU has talked to Lindens about this before, and they said they are working on a solution. Hopefully it will be solved soon.
15. 

    Billie Scaggs
    

    Apr 27th, 2007
    

    Nacon,

    i just dont get your “they were asking for it” attitude. Let me ask this, if you or your parents were driving down the road – obeying the traffic laws and suddenly an angry driver swerves into your line of traffic, striking your car head on; Where you asking for it? Did you “deserve” it?

    I only leave my sim for support calls, or to go shopping with my family. I cross paths with many people everyday, but i can honestly say i have had not one legitimate abuse report against me and the only one i have ever had was false – which LL quickly closed. I “do” leave from time to time in order to assist friends of my family with greifers on their sim, but even then i am cordial with the person.
16. 

    Pixeleen Mistral
    

    Apr 27th, 2007
    

    Billie, I just fixed the misspelling of your last name in the article. We have been some ongoing “issues” with Audry in typesetting, and since we are now doing performance reviews at the Herald, let’s just say that some people may not be getting bonuses. There is also the matter of the mis-routed champagne order – the order that never arrived at the Herald yacht. That may have played a part in this sordid tale. They were certainly hooting and hollering down in typesetting last night.
17. 

    Luca Vasilopita
    

    Apr 27th, 2007
    

    Nacon; Do you ever post anything that is little more than a childish strike at things you disagree with?

    Billie and Issa Scaggs; There are other ways to keep your sim secure in addition to restricted parcel settings. Whilst it can never be applied to ACCOUNT targetted griefing, if in future your land or belongings are targetted, please drop me a line and I’ll happily discuss a security contract with yourselves.
18. 

    shockwave yareach
    

    Apr 27th, 2007
    

    This is several bots hitting you. The bad is, no, no defenses will work at the moment. The good is, if you can make a Linden understand the load it’s putting on their servers, and the TOS violation implicit, they can find the owner (and creator) by looking up the names of the objects (rather unique here) and delete said user and said hardware. For all the good THAT does in the revolving door world of the griefer.

    Might be a good idea to create an alt that few know about for times like this, so you can keep playing while the limpys with no hair tween their thighs hammer away at… nobody.
19. 

    Curious Rousselot
    

    Apr 27th, 2007
    

    Pixeleen said, “[S]ince we are now doing performance reviews at the Herald, let’s just say that some people may not be getting bonuses.”

    Oh darn! There goes my shiny new bling necklass. Hope I don’t get a pink slip this time.
20. 

    rumor has it
    

    Apr 27th, 2007
    

    Agrees with Ordinal – I’ve seen this weapon personally and have tested it out myself, there is no way of stopping the textures/notecards/landmarks from being received by you, your land settings has nothing to do with this so changing that won’t do a damn thing, the best defense i’ve seen is getting into busy mode but that too is not 100%; LL is aware of these type weapons because about 1-2 years ago I do recall the notecard spammer one being very popular and if someone used it on you and you reported it to a live linden they immediately tracked down the sender and they were perma banned. now of course this was back when you could actually talk to a linden who was online. basically right now this lets open the flood gates for anyone who has these weapons and feels like using them on people, you basically fucked especially if the griefer(s) keep getting you everytime you log on. how pissed would you be everytime you clear up your inventory mess from this two days later it happens again? can’t wait to see how lindens react to the bomb that will explode from this if it escalates as i predict it will.
21. 

    Artemis Fate
    

    Apr 27th, 2007
    

    “LL is aware of these type weapons because about 1-2 years ago I do recall the notecard spammer one being very popular and if someone used it on you and you reported it to a live linden they immediately tracked down the sender and they were perma banned. now of course this was back when you could actually talk to a linden who was online. basically right now this lets open the flood gates for anyone who has these weapons and feels like using them on people, you basically fucked especially if the griefer(s) keep getting you everytime you log on.”

    It seems like there’s this idealizing of the Lindens now that they’re gone. With this whole, “oh, if the Lindens were here, you’d simply send one IM, they’d be there in less than a second, and in just another second would have traced the call and told you the murderer is inside the house, then personally dispatched him for you! But now we don’t have them and our life is shit! Shit I say!”

    But I think we’re all conveniently forgetting 2 things:

    1.) The lindens sucked with abuse reports. Seriously. You’d still be waiting for a response from Billie’s griefing incident. And when it came it’d likely be something like “we have investigated into the matter and taken the proper actions”, which would always seem to be nothing, since you’d never see it again on the police blotter and if you knew the offender, you’d still see them listed as online.

    2.) Even if you WERE lucky to warrant a permaban, with free accounts and no credit cards, that doesn’t mean anything. Real griefers use throw-away accounts because they EXPECT to get permabanned, and if you’d pissed them off enough or they thought it was funny enough to continue on another account, I imagine they’d have resources for griefing items and the ability to make a new account, have it up and running to exactly the old account within 5-10 minutes and keep griefing over and over till they get bored.

    So really, there is no difference between the invisible linden justice and the makeshift vigilante justice, it was always the same thing, except a month later having the Lindens e-mail you with a cookie cutter machine response saying that it’s solved, even though you can clearly see they did nothing.
22. 

    Tenshi Vielle
    

    Apr 27th, 2007
    

    There is no customer service any more, anywhere. No. It simply doesn’t exist.

    Best thing to do is go and beat down the doors of LL. We should make a mob.
23. 

    Nacon
    

    Apr 27th, 2007
    

    Wow, you people are even dumber, I didn’t say it was Billie and Issa Scraggs faults.

    Err oh wait, how can you cause griefers? Duh, you piss them off, what else?

    However, I do agree that griefer really shouldn’t go at great distance if it’s something so small or childish. Of course spamming with bunch of inventory is not a way to help Linden and their server.

    In this case, Billie, Issa Scraggs and the griefer are both idiot to have a such thing called “Drama” in their lives.

    Like I said, garbage news. This is no where different than many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many…. other griefer stories.

    I’m sure Lindens are already fed up with babysitting their world when people can’t behave like a adult. Thus the reason why they went in a different path on Abuse Report and Live Helps, passing the ARs to Estate Owner whenever an report happens in their sim. Thus let you people judge you way out.

    Now whoes fault is it? It’s the people and the society we have in SL where NO MINORS are even allowed. Think about what you could have done to make the difference with your own behavior when you meet new people.

    Lindens are not ment to be a Super Hero, if none of you kids get that.
24. 

    mootykips
    

    Apr 27th, 2007
    

    sorry Jim, pool’s still closed. it doesn’t really matter what sort of security measures you take, there’s still a way around it (spoiler: “turn off collisions then return scripted objects” all you want, we have a way around that too), and this notecard/texture spammer explains perfectly why. Only way to win? “better still, why not save several hundred US$ a month and shut the whole damn thing down?” indeed.
25. 

    Brent
    

    Apr 27th, 2007
    

    Lindens need to go back to pay accounts.
26. 

    Ordinal Malaprop
    

    Apr 27th, 2007
    

    The irony is that this is an immensely simple device (I could write you one in five minutes, as could any half-decent scripter) and an immensely simple option not to automatically accept notecards and landmarks and textures, as well as cap delivery automatically (in what legitimate situation would one ever want to accept 100 notecards a minute?) would make it obsolete. Griefing spam devices like this have existed for a long time, but nothing has been done.

    Nacon, you are just digging yourself deeper, I would advise putting down the spade.
27. 

    shockwave yareach
    

    Apr 27th, 2007
    

    A temp fix that can be done as quickly as tomorrow if the lindens wish to is to modify llGiveInventory() so that it blocks until the user presses Accept or Refuse. A bot then can only send out a single texture before stopping, so long as the target doesn’t accept or deny the request. This can be implemented without a change to the client program as it’s all backend.
28. 

    burning the wrong person
    

    Apr 27th, 2007
    

    Mootykips, I haerd you leik spies?
29. 

    Hazim Gazov
    

    Apr 27th, 2007
    

    What jim fails to realize is that you won’t have TIME to turn off collisions before the new doomsday hits you. It’s pretty much just doomsday with 20x the popgun scripts and a bullet that is 20x more destructive. So destructive, in fact, that it is capable of taking down a sim in less than 3 seconds. I haven’t actually seen the bullet myself, but from my understanding, it is 31 invisible toruses linked together, all of them hollow, twisted, tapered, anything that could cause them to be laggier. As far as I can tell, the bullets themselves have no scripts, but are instead physical, and can be rezzed even in no build areas. You can’t protect yourself against them in any way unless you disable scripts completely. Even with physics and collisions disabled, they still manage to crash the sim in around three seconds as the gun tries to rez around 11 000 copies of the bullet. Let’s just say it rarely gets to rez more than 100.
30. 

    Sn4X15
    

    Apr 27th, 2007
    

    intBlubber: Touche.
31. 

    Farty Bartpast
    

    Apr 27th, 2007
    

    At the risk of the majority spewing vitriol at me too, I’m gonna say I agree with Nacon with the exception of “you pissed someone off”. Although when you see how juvenile many of the *ADULTS* here act, assuming they pissed someone off is not a far stretch.

    How many times has a Linden come running to rescue some squealing little AV from something they could have fixed themselves by simply turning on no-build for a few minutes and returning objects not owned by them? How many times have Lindens come running to settle a dispute and after deciding who is wrong and who is right, having to listen to the “loser” in the dispute screaming bloody innocence? Or had to listen to someone self-rightously bawling them out to “FIX IT because I’m PAYING YOU MONEY!!!”

    Yes, this kind of griefing tool is a simple script – anybody can script badly enough to create something like this in 2 minutes. People who are actually good at scripting have much more fun and utilitarian ideas to create and wouldn’t waste their time or reputation annoying defenseless women (mostly) who are just here to have fun and be with friends.

    We can only hope the Lindens will implement a “Accept Notecard/Texture? Yes/No.” function and start charging AT LEAST a one-time cost to create an AV – hell, it costs L$10 to upload a texture/sound/animation, but it costs nothing to bring a new AV into the grid. That makes no sense at all.

    LL wants SL to be free for all, which is a nice warm-fuzzy dream, but the fact of the matter is, this is not a distributed network like most of the www is. LL hosts the servers themselves, so they have every right to charge for their use.

    I’d gladly pay $10 US to have the peace of mind that every ill-educated, inbred savage with a computer and teen-angst carried on through their 30 years in their parent’s basement is not allowed to shit anywhere on the grid they want to.
32. 

    mootykips
    

    Apr 27th, 2007
    

    “defenseless women”

    “ill-educated, inbred savage with a computer and teen-angst carried on through their 30 years in their parent’s basement”

    AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
33. 

    Hazim Gazov
    

    Apr 27th, 2007
    

    I herd u haet mudkips acronym? also, the PNs don’t use that spammer.
34. 

    Mako Mabellon
    

    Apr 28th, 2007
    

    mootykips: I’m sorry, but thanks to the open-source client it is theoretically possibly to defend against these notecard/texture spammers. (In fact, someone has already written a patch that deals with at least the original texture spammer; unfortunately, I don’t think it’s made it into a release yet.)
35. 

    Benson Willis
    

    Apr 28th, 2007
    

    “Err oh wait, how can you cause griefers? Duh, you piss them off, what else?”

    You, my friend, need to stop by Furnation or Istaria when the griefers come round.
    There’s no cause for it except that some people don’t like furries, or just like to harrass because it’s ‘fun’.
36. 

    JayR Cela
    

    Apr 28th, 2007
    

    Oh Great no more help of any kind! this is a bit off topic but I feel it does relate to LL total disregard for its residents, please read on.
    The folks at LL are out of their minds !!!!! PERIOD ! they cant even get the friends on line list to work correctly in world, and now the web page version of that no longer functions. Teleporting from one region to another is still a crap shoot at best. The problem that was introduced with LOCKED OBJECTS which was introduced with v1.4 is still here
    GO on ahead any one reading this I dare you to try it. Set down any object pre-made or one you have created, and open edit, observe the details about said object. ( Creator, Owner, Prim count, ect… ) and Lock It!!!!!!
    Now exit edit mode, and reenter edit and try to look at the Stats on that object. GUESS WHAT – They No Longer Exist !!!! No One Created IT ~ No One Owns IT ~ It Has No Prim Count ~ NOR ~ does IT Have A Texture or a Color.
    Real way to go, LL I have been complaining about this since 1.4 and repeatedly made LL aware of the issue. At that time it was no big deal because a step back to useing 1.3 or the First Look Client, would allow you to recover your seemingly now what does not really exist as it was, Expensive piece of furniture, or the latest great masterpiece build you had just put the finishing touches on. And not to mention all of the items you may have in your house or place of business that you had previously LOCKED in place ( with a previous version of the SL Client ) so no one could move them. Go on ahead all you folks out there that think all these supposedly wonderful new features you seem to be clamoring for, I Dare You! to take the challenge! Go back to your home or shop and try to edit some of your expensive Paintings. Rugs, Sofa’s, Tables, Chairs, Dance Poles, Dance Machines, Free Merchandise Gift Givers, Walls, Stairwells, Doors, Window’s, even a lowly 1 prim Cube you have just made, and observe the results.
    ( JayR gets a cup of coffee and waits )
    OK if you tried it, and seen the Giant Mess that has been created by LL’s ineptitude and seemingly total disregard for their catch phrase, YOUR WORLD , YOUR IMAGINATION, A WORLD CREATED BY ITS RESIDENTS……. Are you now Angry ??????? Are you now completely fed up ??? Are you now ready to scream ???? Want to strangle someone ???? And since this 1.5 viewer is now mandatory, Guess What YOU ARE SCREWED !!!!!!!!! You can not go back to a previous SL Client and unlock all the precious items you have spent your lindens on or designs that you have created. Try takeing that item back into your inventory and further observe the results. hmmmmm that expensive Pole Dance machine you spent some big bucks on is now considered by your inventory to be a simple Lowly Object, now Re-Rezz it, see result is still the same. SL RESIDENT”S , YOU HAVE BEEN SHAFTED, by the ULTIMATE BIG ONE !!!! Period !!!!! Done Deal !!! No Hope !!! Cry Cry, Hush Hush, there you are.! don’t worry some new extra features will make you forget all about this. NOTTTTTT !!!!
    Crap they even did away with Live Help so you do not even have them to at least try to assist you.
    Hey LL how about a novel new idea, something you have never tried before. FIX WHATS BROKE ! And Hire some people that are actually willing to work for a living.
37. 

    Artemis Fate
    

    Apr 28th, 2007
    

    “You, my friend, need to stop by Furnation or Istaria when the griefers come round.
    There’s no cause for it except that some people don’t like furries, or just like to harrass because it’s ‘fun’.”

    Well, furries are probably the highest profile griefer targets, because they’re a very large group, if you go there you usually won’t deal with someone with admin powers, and let’s face it they’re weird and give griefers the perfect reactions they’re looking for for them to go home giggling, bragging to their friends, and showing logs and photos.

    I’d say goreans next, but I don’t think griefers go after them much, because usually they have an admin on hand who bans first and asks no questions later. So it’s pretty much just furries sticking out there as a griefer-favorite.
38. 

    Panda
    

    Apr 28th, 2007
    

    JayR, I just rezzed an object, locked it, closed the edit box, edited it again, unlocked it, and took it back into inventory. I don’t see the problem here?
39. 

    Kahni Poitier
    

    Apr 28th, 2007
    

    I have zero problems locking and unlocking items.

    Maybe you’re being outsmarted by inanimate objects?
40. 

    Nacon
    

    Apr 28th, 2007
    

    Benson said: “You, my friend, need to stop by Furnation or Istaria when the griefers come round.
    There’s no cause for it except that some people don’t like furries, or just like to harrass because it’s ‘fun’.”

    Hahaha.. that’s even better example of “kids” on the grid, no matter if they are adult or not, still dumb at society world.

    Artemis got a good point there, that should be a pity for some furry people who DOESN’T do shit like that.
    Even some of us “human” people does that kind of shit, not that I’m proud of that society I’m in. It’s stupid.

    If someone teleported into my parcel and asked me how to build, I would help the newbie.

    However… If someone teleported into my parcel, rezzed bunch of signs and screams about unable to login, build and teleport at all… I’m banning the idiot, no question about it.
41. 

    Phantom
    

    Apr 29th, 2007
    

    with that last Post of Nacon I understand him. he’s bitter at the would, could be because he doesn’t like the way his life has turned out and it in his own mind is to late to change his life path so he lashes out.

    it could be that he thinks his life sucks but is to stupid to realize what he has and lashes out at people to make him self feel better but in fact all it does it brings down even more, and this is being an emo kid.

    his life could really suck but is to lazy or ignorant of his ways to change, and lashes out like before.

    there are other reasons to be bitter yes, but I’d spend a hell of a lot of time to list them all, but I’ll leave saying that it’s pathetic lashing out at people like that, just because your bitter doesn’t mean you have to being other people down with you.

    so what I have to say to Nacon, I don’t care how old you really are, but I believe it’s time for you to grow up, because you act like a child even worse then the ones you call “kids”.
42. 

    mootykips
    

    Apr 29th, 2007
    

    we go raid people at random all the time even if they’re not furries, so the whole “you won’t get hit if you aren’t a furry” thing isn’t really valid.
43. 

    Hazim Gazov
    

    Apr 29th, 2007
    

    I only raid Prokofy Neva, it must be PAINFULLY obvioust that I have a personal vendetta against her and her alone.
44. 

    Nacon
    

    Apr 30th, 2007
    

    What are you a doctor? Of course I am bitter when people had to be really dumb, but better when they aren’t. Oh well, that’s just the way I am, I guess? I’m sure I’m not only one who is like that in this world.

    What is there for me to grow up? I was a noob who hang out in weapon testing zone sim, thought I could make a difference by fighting but then… I grew up, I was smart enough to realize how retarded it is. Left that stupid sim and had a normal life. I never used any silly weapon for any real purpose of greifing ever since, which was about a year ago. I’ve had noobs run me over with their cars countless times while standing away from a track and blames on lag. I may say such thing like “ow” or “yay, another funeral day for me”, but most of the time… I just do nothing but returns to my spot from where I was standing.

    I’ve had noobs keep bugging me about custom build, even I told them no or was busy, they continue to beg. What did I do then? Just mute, not wasting my time dealing them in a long way.

    Few times I’m just talking to my friends about anything, noobs jump in and beg for money, we would say no. Then noobs would attack us and won’t stop till we give them the money. What did I do then? Ban, sit, or teleport away. Not wasting my time greifing while I enjoy talking to nice, smarter, successful people.
    Think I should be crying over to lindens? Forget it, I choose to grow up.
    Hell, noobs and lindens should thanks me for not reporting because I don’t want to waste my time and linden’s time over something that was retarded.

    Of course life sucks, the point is, how you deal with it. So I’m not sure why you’re all rifled up about me calling some retards “kids”? Did you wanted me to call them bunch of foul up names? “Kid” can’t be all too harsh than “damn fag fucker” that I’m hearing often from common greifers. Maybe you knew I would call you a kid too because of the way you act? Do you grief? Or maybe you thought you can be mature but still a minor? Forget it.

    Now, tell me, how you want me to grow up?
    Scratch that… tell me how you want the society to grow up?

    (You can’t)
45. 

    Hazim Gazov
    

    Apr 30th, 2007
    

    >>Insert drama here.<<
46. 

    Phantom
    

    Apr 30th, 2007
    

    no I’m not a Doctor but it doesn’t take one to know there is something wrong with Nacon.

    any idiot knows that weapon testing grounds is that, if your there you more then likely to get attacked.

    yea noobs will bug the piss out of you, but by not reporting being attack isn’t helping any one, if they attack you, they most likely will keep doing it until some one puts an end to it, most likely a linden, and now with the new system there should be no reason not to since it’s computer handled now.

    guess what calling some one a kid is name calling, and that is a child like behavior. by calling some one a name will make them less likely to listen to what you have to say.

    things you can do to start to grow up is stop acting like your any more of a “adult” then any one else, you have child like behaviors too.

    oh and if the only reason you post it to insult people that’s child like behavior too, but being the person I am I’m going to say you want to express your opinion, and the best way to do that is not by insulting people like you have been doing.

    the best way to express your opinion by “gently” letting them know they are wrong and give your reasons on why they are wrong. adding to many out right insults will just ruin what you have to say.

    I have three people posting behind me even when I insulted them they still think I’m “the smartest guy to post”(something like that). Is it because I’m really smart? no I’m no more intelligent then any one else, but I know how to express my opinion so others listen.

    and as far as bettering the world?

    do what is right, not just what will make you happy. donate to charities that mean something. plant a tree in your yard. recycle. don’t buy the V8′s cars/trucks and car pool to work. VOTE!!!, and yes I know it’s from the bible but treat others as you wish to be treated.

    this is some of the things what are simple for people to do, but I my self can’t make everyone do this simple things.

    will it fix everything? no, but it’s a start. but if you want to fix the world go out and do it, everyone has it in them to change the world. every one has a choose and there is no such thing as fate. fate is just an excuse people made up to be lazy.
47. 

    Phantom
    

    Apr 30th, 2007
    

    oh, and as far as my hobbies, I like building, I don’t grief, nor do I build items to grief with, I used to be part of a combat group, but it has since stop being much fun for me, and I’m 22 years old. you can take this as truth or believe it’s a lie, it really doesn’t matter much.

    even if some one is as old as dirt doesn’t mean they are mature then a person of 12. I’ve known people that are 16 that are by far more mentally mature then some thirty year olds. and I’m not taking about a thirty year old with a mental retardation either.
48. 

    shockwave yareach
    

    Apr 30th, 2007
    

    I am in my 40s. My RL you wouldn’t believe anyway, so I shan’t bother. I’ve been a part of the tech side and the social side of computing from the earliest BBS all the way to getting/sending files to the ISS.

    SL as it stands right now makes it too easy for people who like nothing more than ruining other people’s good times to wreak havoc on the grid. This is a problem, because if left uncontrolled, the users will leave and SL will collapse. Why should anyone be in the metaverse and spend money if they are going to be barraged by penises before being orbitted and needing to reboot? Perhaps under certain circumstances between friends, that can be funny. But doing it to strangers who aren’t part of your little game is far from funny. And simcrashers need to spend a year in the warm, protective embrace of the feds, as that breaks nearly every computer law on the books. No doubt if I simcrashed Baku over and over, the W-hats would want my head on a platter.
49. 

    NobodyImportant
    

    May 2nd, 2007
    

    Dear Shockwave Yareach:

    You believe that simcrashers deserve a year of federal prison?
    For crashing a sim on an online game, using… no, not exploits, programmed scripting possibilities within the game itself?

    Just making sure you’re bullshitting all over the place.

    Sim-crashing weaponry (at least the Doomsday/Grid Destroyer devices the ‘notorious’ PN use) is *not* made through exploits in the game’s programming. They’re made USING the game’s programming (scripting) language (LSL).

    And it’s laughable that you would expect the US government to imprison people for crashing a sim on a fucking game.

    -inb4 “slowpoke is slooooooooow” and “omg sl is not a game u fag”
50. 

    shockwave yareach
    

    May 2nd, 2007
    

    Whether you deliberately crash a server at someone’s business by means of a script, an exploit, holes in a firewall or by waving a dead cat over your head at midnight under a full moon is irrelevant. It is still Computer Tampering under the law. You cannot claim “accidental damage” when it takes deliberate effort and intent to create and use said scripts.

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