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74 Responses to “Op/Ed: Babyfurs – Gross Anarchy With Diapers”

1. 

   dandellion Kimban
   

   Dec 5th, 2007
   

   Another frustrated scribomaniac in the troops of SL Herald….
2. 

   It's true
   

   Dec 5th, 2007
   

   Wow, this news blog site is :-whaked!-:
3. 

   Crimson Darcy
   

   Dec 5th, 2007
   

   And you have my axe…

   No but srsly, thanks for the informative article. Adds more fuel to my fire.
4. 

   Izaea Qinan
   

   Dec 5th, 2007
   

   You know what I think is gross?

   People who can’t stomach the thought that other consenting adults have sexual feelings that don’t agree with their own.

   -Izaea Qinan
5. 

   Just Me
   

   Dec 5th, 2007
   

   “it seems more and more wherever I go there is always a babyfur ”

   I wander around to a lot of places and have never seen one.
6. 

   hmmmm
   

   Dec 5th, 2007
   

   oooooooooook dude you have some issues with furries and babyfurs

   first things first……and i know this for fact
   babyfurs dont have sex or cybersex
   babyfurs are ppl you are roleplaying young furrys who love there childhood and they have fun.
   babyfurs are scary i agree but there scarly cute an makes ya wanna go “Aaaawwwwww” and pinch there cheek n give em a lollypop

   the ppl behind babyfurs, would it surprise you that there active against peadophiles and it was some babyfurs that outed some of the worst assholes in SL.

   i’ll put it this way…i logged in one day and was ruthed because of the assest server and i dont wanna name names ~coffcofffaytebaxtercoffcoff~ who thought i was a baby fur and well lets just say i was made an offer which opened my eyes and could have made me a cool 50k but i was actualy sick to my stomach.

   yes babyfurs are ageplaying FURRYS but they are the best at sniffing out sick fucks and reporting em.
   babyfurs are NOT exempt from the ageplay rule, they have there own sim and they obey the rules, there just here to look sickenly cute n cuddly but behind the avatars are real ppl who enjoy reliving there childhood.

   also what defines a babyfur, a fur whos 2 feet tall wearing kiddy clothes.

   yaffle you REALLY need to get a grip and grow up, leave em be, if they break the rules then they get fucked by LL theres no need to throw gas on the already flaming hot fire.

   because its ppl like you that cause trouble by spouting hate against furrys…….even tho you DO have a furry av which i know and i know you hang around the valley sims a LOT a HELLVA LOT and well lets just say….that fur you were with last week…that wasent what you thought it was
7. 

   DINGOS ATE MY BABYFUR
   

   Dec 5th, 2007
   

   wait, babyfurs don’t have sex?

   Yiffstar.com – The Furry Story and Art Archive
   http://yiffstar.com/index.php?action=search&search=Age-play (Link VERY NSFW)
   Your search for the term “Age-play” yields 309 Results

   It’s all innocent and lollipops, huh?
8. 

   Puck Goodliffe
   

   Dec 5th, 2007
   

   Any human who named himself “Righteous” is probably a twat by default.

   Also, when real children are being harmed by ageplay or babyfurs then let me know. Until then, you’re just whining about something that affects no one and are just applying your personal sexual desire on others who are harmless.

   My advice to you is to get a life and stop worrying about what people are typing when they’re jerking off to SL.

   You’re welcome.

   Puck
9. 

   ichabod Antfarm
   

   Dec 5th, 2007
   

   Fuck you, Sklar, for printing this.
10. 

    dandellion Kimban
    

    Dec 5th, 2007
    

    but this frustrated person who is pretending to give an opinion is getting really wildly horny on fur, especially young. Instead of talking with professionals who could help him getting a grip of the problem he is masturbating here. Sure, SL Herald is welcoming all the stupidity-spitters because they bring page-views. BTW, in about page it still says: ‘Its mission, as described the next day, was to observe, record and study “the legal, social, and economic implications” of life in the virtual world.’
    Pathetic.
11. 

    fargo
    

    Dec 5th, 2007
    

    Furries, How you react to them says more about you than it does about them. nuf said
12. 

    Babyfur Supporter
    

    Dec 5th, 2007
    

    You know, babyfurs aren’t out there just for pedophiles looking for a way around the law. Some of them just like the idea of being able to roleplay as the child they can no longer be, a way to escape the adult world and revert back to just playing and having someone else watch over them, perhaps even scold them for doing wrong.

    Some of the babyfurs are in it for the ‘yiff’, but not the ones I know and am friends with. Not all of us furries are in it for the sex! So shut the hell up already and quit whining about us. Or perhaps we should whine about how dumb and unoriginal humans are… how perverted humans are in the real world and how they seem to commit more homicide, rape, etc. etc. etc.

    Get over yourself. Your furless skin doesn’t make you any better than anyone.
13. 

    Tom
    

    Dec 5th, 2007
    

    Some anti griefer furry in sl was im’ing me complaining about some shit I didn’t do (like most anti griefers, before attacking random people). I looked at his profile, linked to an account on a site called Furaffinity, he had a picture of him irl in a diaper playing guitar hero, then he brought the pic down because the other furries were laughing at him, and he was like “omg you guys are so ignorant”.

    I’d say that describes babyfurs.
14. 

    Cub Conclave Supporter
    

    Dec 5th, 2007
    

    Fuck you all fargo is right if you hate on us cubfurs it means YOU are the freaks for being ignorant.
15. 

    Apollonia
    

    Dec 5th, 2007
    

    Okay = what the blue FUCK is up with the Herald? All last week was “Hug a Babyfur” week. Shit – a little consistancy if you will.
16. 

    Reformed Hater
    

    Dec 5th, 2007
    

    Wow, I’m forever sorry for all the hate I had for the cute little cubbyfurs. After reading the articulate, well-written posts made in this thread, I now understand the intense struggle of the babyfurs. The hard hitting, point by point rebuttal of the article’s salient points hits home, and now I too feel the plight of our young furries.

    Cub Conclave Supporter, Babyfur Supporter, ichabod Antfarm, amd hmmmm, I see the light. Keep up your shining example of prose, illuminating us all.

    VIVA LE FUR!
17. 

    UhNope
    

    Dec 5th, 2007
    

    1. Things are puzzling indeed. I”m quite baffled as to why it is that a place where freedom is (allegedly) embraced by its creator, can and does attract to it the type of person who does not embrace freedom and who wishes or attempts to exercise control over the others’ thoughts and behaviors (such as suggesting what others “should” do with their (alleged) freedom).

    2. There are already limits on what can be done inside Second Life – the behavior and thought policing authority known as the “Community Standards” put in place by the formal morality patrol known as Linden Lab (formally now that it admitted to that in its “sexual ageplay” press release) – so the author of this article has his or her wish already in that regard. I myself believe there are too many limits as it is and the mere propensity to “offend” is not justification enough to enact restrictions carrying substantial penalties in any community (such as banishment which is presumably being advocated here).

    3. “Ageplay” how Linden Lab defines it must involve a “virtual child”. “Child” has different definitions around the world, but by US federal law, it’s a person under 18 years old. How to tell the difference between a virtual 18 year old and say a virtual 17 or virtual 16 year old, short of a virtual ID card, is beyond me but in any event, a person is a human being. Presumably real life babyfurs have their own regulations about what is “legal sex” in their community but since no babyfurs exist in real life to my knowledge, I wouldn’t know how to find what it is, or whether they think that virtual babyfur sex is immoral or illegal. Of course, Linden Lab, the joke that it is, could well have its own ideas about all of this – necessarily self contradictory and perhaps even hypocritical – so I suppose the author would have to ask Linden Lab for the answer to that question, as any actual rational thinking (as opposed to moralistic thinking) could be for naught. Instead of all of that though, I actually think a more interesting question to Linden Lab would be whether virtual fetuses and virtual fertilized embryos can have virtual sex, and thus whether Linden Lab believes [virtual] life begins at [virtual] conception and these qualify as virtual “persons”.

    4. “Ageplay” as Linden Lab defines it (including sex and lewdness) and the author here appears to define it, where no real child is involved, aren’t that uncommon in American culture, even outside explicit BDSM (sub/dom) and adult entertainment industry (cliche “Barely Legal”/”Fresh Out of Highschool”/”Whos Your Daddy”-esque “ageplay” roleplay), but in pop culture, whether it’s singer Britney Spears sensuously prancing around in a schoolgirl outfit in a school setting, or singer Fergie doing so in a girl scout uniform, and many others. These are just some quick examples; more wouldn’t be hard to find. If you believe this sort of “ageplay” is intrinsically related to pedophilia, then you must believe that pedophilia is a bit mainstream because these are not small industries or niches. The fact is, adults roleplaying with adults has more to do with inter-adult relationships, in this apparent case submission/dominance/mutual innocence, not sexual fantasy urges for children (which is what pedophilia is). So the answer to the question of whether by itself, roleplaying virtual babyfurs (even those involving virtual sex) must necessarily be hiding pedophilia, even bear-on-bear or fur-on-fur pedophilia (if such things existed) is an obvious no.

    5. Of course, nothing is illegal unless there is an actual law prohibiting it, so if the author believes what is being written about in this article is illegal, then I think the author should be able to at least cite the law, rather than make readers guess which law it is. Otherwise, it makes it a bit more difficult to argue against the author’s interpretation of the law or that if it is indeed illegal, then while it may be illegal, the law prohibiting it probably unconstitutional. I say this because I know of no law that could make this prima facie illegal like the author assumes.
18. 

    Inuyasha Deere
    

    Dec 5th, 2007
    

    The most disgusting thing in human society and the study of sociology is intolerancy in its self.

    I don’t agree with the majority of opinions most of the sexual subcultures in Second Life harbor, but if the stuff they do is consensual it’s their own buisness. If they’re not being forced to do unorthodox, fetished actions, they can do it. They chose to do it, and they’e not harming us.

    If two gay fursuiting men want to swing from chandaliers eating pomellos and throwing buckets of viscous liquids meaning to immitate semen around, and they do these actions consensually away from others…. What can be wrong with it? If they do it in their own secured areas, don’t publicly display lewd and bizzare actions, and don’t harm us in any way, how can it be wrong?

    If you want to write several paragraphs immitating my poor grammar and lack of vocabulary, go ahead and do it. Im not going to get mad about this, or immerse myself further in the topic. It’s just my opinion, and im trying to say this people aren’t doing anything wrong; Im keeping it at that.
19. 

    Why bother
    

    Dec 5th, 2007
    

    Clearly to be free we must have sex with digital babies, or else we’re living under fascism.
20. 

    Malcom
    

    Dec 5th, 2007
    

    I wonder what Martin Luther King Jr. would say if he saw what kind of freedoms you people “fight for” on the internet.
21. 

    UhYep
    

    Dec 5th, 2007
    

    Oh wow, pedophile furries on the internet.

    Your parents and family must be really proud of you.
22. 

    Kes
    

    Dec 5th, 2007
    

    1. It is not illegal for two consenting adults to pretend to be baby animals and type dirty words at each other.

    2. You have the right to complain about it, just as they have the right to do it.

    3. The fact that you think babyfurs are “gross” means nothing. It’s an opinion, not law or fact. On the basis of your opinion, let’s ban them? Uh, last time I checked, the opinion of an ex-griefer means sh*t to most residents and sh*t to LL.

    4. STFU
23. 

    Kes
    

    Dec 5th, 2007
    

    I forgot to ad that I have never seen a babyfur in SL… I have seen tinies. There was never anything sexual about them, either. (Although I don’t doubt they exist and don’t doubt that some of them have sex. My point is that I doubt they are as prominent as you make them out to be.)

    The one time I personally talked to a tiny, he was a griefer. (He had a little kitten av.. tiny or babyfur, I don’t see the difference..)

    He was probably one of your friends.
24. 

    GoldenFox
    

    Dec 5th, 2007
    

    Reformed Griefer my ass! You’re just out to cause more trouble. Babyfurs are NOT Pedophiles. We all feel that Pedos should be shot. You’re a miserable fool who needs to have his eyes opened. Those of us who are considered babyfurs are more than likely people who have experienced trouble childhoods and would like a chance at reliving them in a different circumstance. So SHUT your mouth about things you don’t understand and have no basis to judge on. How many babyfurs have you met? 1? 2? Chances are what you met were damn griefers just like YOU, or hell, it might even have been just a figment of your damned twisted imagination! You’re probably just spouting off your butt, making crap up.

    We’re sick of people telling their own damned side of the story and toting off without getting things straight. You’re an idiot, a vile, ignorant fool who gets off on trying to give us a bad name when all we’ve done wrong is found our way into your crosshairs. We obey the rules just like everyone else, except people like you who crash sims and get their kicks off making people miserable.

    We’re all sick of this stupid crap, and it stops now.
25. 

    Cedar Musketeer
    

    Dec 5th, 2007
    

    Hmmmmmm, this is odd, I read the title of the piece, I read the piece then I look back at the By Line. Hmmmm, I believe I says Reformed Griefer, if I am not mistaken. You know, this is just another form or griefing, but just not on the grid. You still get your rocks off making life horrible for others, but now you write it here on a blog and call it being a concerned citizen? What about all the sims you crashed in the past, all the spam bots and the like that you dropped leaving vulgar images and annoying sounds then running off like the coward you are. Maybe if you got your facts straight and didn’t assume the media was right about everything then maybe you wouldn’t write things that would make you look like a complete ass hat.

    You also seem to contradict yourself, you say “These are not just furries, which are bad enough,” but then you later say,”I don’t really give two shits about furries,” If you don’t care for us or about us, why are you hanging out around us? The only way you are going to even come across a baby fur is if you hang out in furry places. Does this mean you enjoy being disgusted by what you see on SL? Maybe you should just quit while you still have a shred of dignity left. Oh wait you tossed that out here in this article.

    To anyone reading this, I will say I am a fur, and while I am not a baby fur I do happen to be friends with several baby furs on SL. I am like an uncle to them, and the like being taken care of as children. Maybe they didn’t get the love they wanted from their parents and they are not trying to start over, but I can say this, there is nothing sexual about this at all. In fact, I for one frown on anyone who would even consider doing something like that to one of my nieces and nephews, and will quickly dispatch anyone who would try such a thing.

    I have had my say, now you can go about your business.
26. 

    Kanji Jessop
    

    Dec 5th, 2007
    

    I’ll be the first to admit that I’ve been a babyfur for a long time, and that babyfurs outside of second life do have their own sexual desires and escapades into the realm of wierd fetishes. I’ll also be the first to admit that there ARE in fact pedophiles in the babyfur community, as well as the AB/DL community and the BDSM community in general. However to say that all babyfurs, adult babies, or ageplayers are twisted pedophiles who just want to bed your children is a gross overstatement. Its just about on the same level as saying all Mexicans are going to steal your rims, or all Blacks can’t read. It simply isn’t true, its prejudice and ignorant and makes the writer look like a fiercely shortsighted moron who only knows how to blather out what he or she feels rather than digging into hard evidence.

    Yes babyfurs yiff on their own time, in real life or in private chat where things are concensual between two adults. While there have been instances where babyfurs have done rather innapropriate things in public, generally harming the community as a whole due to their actions, the vast majority of us do what we can to make the Second Life experiance as far as Babyfurs are concerned as clean as a PG sim. We have strict rules against public nudity, sexual conduct, hell even cursing to some degree. In all respects the babyfurs as a community are trying their damndest to present a clean and efficient image.

    And you know why? Because we respect the ageplay rules, the real rules in which Linden Labs dictates innapropriate ageplay as an underaged avatar engaging in sexual acts. They also have dictated that underage avatars are permitted so long as they do not engage in sexual acts.

    I would also like to remind you that the act of pedophillia and the act of ageplay are two different things. Pedophillia involves sexual acts with a real child, that is someone who is actually under the age of 18, or whatever the legal concensual age is in any given country. Whereas Ageplay involves ROLEplaying a certain age to achieve various means, the key modifier here being that ageplay involves playing a ROLE. Everybody has ageplayed at least once in their life, whether they would like to admit it or not.

    The next time your daughter plays house with her little friends, are you going to stop her and call it disgusting ageplay? The next time your little boy wants to be Indianna Jones or any other big time hero, are you going to stop him and call it disgusting ageplay? The next time your lover and you decide to spice up the relationship with some kinky play, are you going to chastise yourself for commiting ageplay, I mean come on, naughty school girl, hot for teacher, the cheerleader… There are tons of scenarios normal everyday people run through their collective minds that would be consider ageplay.

    We are not exempt from the rules, we follow them like everyone else. Just because you can’t interperate the rules like a intellegent being doesn’t mean we have to catch the shit the runs out of your mouth as fact. I’m not saying that everyone is going to like us, I don’t like half the babyfurs I meet. I don’t like half the people I meet in general, but there’s a key difference between me and the author of this editorial. I don’t make it my personal mission to make the people I dislike feel bad, nor do I hang my personal prejudices around my shoulder like a mantle.
27. 

    Cedar Musketeer
    

    Dec 5th, 2007
    

    Hmmmmmm, this is odd, I read the title of the piece, I read the piece then I look back at the By Line. Hmmmm, I believe I says Reformed Griefer, if I am not mistaken. You know, this is just another form or griefing, but just not on the grid. You still get your rocks off making life horrible for others, but now you write it here on a blog and call it being a concerned citizen? What about all the sims you crashed in the past, all the spam bots and the like that you dropped leaving vulgar images and annoying sounds then running off like the coward you are. Maybe if you got your facts straight and didn’t assume the media was right about everything then maybe you wouldn’t write things that would make you look like a complete ass hat.

    You also seem to contradict yourself, you say “These are not just furries, which are bad enough,” but then you later say,”I don’t really give two shits about furries,” If you don’t care for us or about us, why are you hanging out around us? The only way you are going to even come across a baby fur is if you hang out in furry places. Does this mean you enjoy being disgusted by what you see on SL? Maybe you should just quit while you still have a shred of dignity left. Oh wait you tossed that out here in this article.

    To anyone reading this, I will say I am a fur, and while I am not a baby fur I do happen to be friends with several baby furs on SL. I am like an uncle to them, and the like being taken care of as children. Maybe they didn’t get the love they wanted from their parents and they are not trying to start over, but I can say this, there is nothing sexual about this at all. In fact, I for one frown on anyone who would even consider doing something like that to one of my nieces and nephews, and will quickly dispatch anyone who would try such a thing.

    I have had my say, now you can go about your business.
28. 

    lol
    

    Dec 5th, 2007
    

    All the babyfurs are coming out of their SL sex dungeons to write massive comments.
29. 

    CaptainAmerica
    

    Dec 5th, 2007
    

    @Kes

    “2. You have the right to complain about it, just as they have the right to do it.

    4. STFU”

    Paradox?

    I think a certain babyfur doesn’t like freedom of speech, or America for that matter.
30. 

    wtf?
    

    Dec 5th, 2007
    

    In my honest opinion:

    It is one thing to have a strange fetish. I would be /almost/ fine with furfaggotry if it was merely a fetish. But people take it so fucking srs bsns that it is not fine. Then when I ask them why they like yiffing, they are so defensive: “WE DON’T DO IT FOR THE SEX!!1!!!1 BAWWWWWW!!!!” That’s the problem.

    Also, @Babyfur Supporter:

    “roleplay as the child they can no longer be”

    Who can say, “Michael Jackson”?
31. 

    NO MOAR BABYFURZ
    

    Dec 5th, 2007
    

    “All the babyfurs are coming out of their SL sex dungeons to write massive comments.”

    Wait – does that mean that Prok is a baby fur?
32. 

    JustThinking
    

    Dec 5th, 2007
    

    Awhile ago there was this incident where the Milwaukee Brewers had to share a hotel with a furry convention, and the whole team was creeped out by freaks in costumes that “look like they hadn’t left their mother’s basements since the last convention”, and there were diaper smells and barking coming from the rooms.

    Honestly, I’m sure it’s very easy to say that its legal or that it’s not technically hurting anyone, and go on and on about freedom, but in the end, are you really able to justify wanting to be an animal with a diaper? Or wanting to have sex with an animal in a diaper?
33. 

    corona
    

    Dec 5th, 2007
    

    I thought intolerance on grounds of sexuality was against the LL TOS
34. 

    A non-e moose.
    

    Dec 5th, 2007
    

    No… it can’t be… Captain America is dead! I saw him die!

    I. SAW. YOU. DIE.
35. 

    anon1
    

    Dec 5th, 2007
    

    *chortles and applauds*
36. 

    Dusk
    

    Dec 5th, 2007
    

    If you furries were really “not like that”, you’d do a better job of self policing your own fucked up community instead of letting pedophiles and practitioners of beastiality hide out within it. YES, there ARE pedos who dress up their illness in the guise of babyfur. There are horrid, disgusting animal abusers in the furry community.

    However, the vast majority of you are just retards.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Htq3FwZ1mw8
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZlNH5jOhWVE
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vCzBUCrck14

    You can see the point on her face where she realizes what ruined individuals you are. For the love of Christ, quit BAWWWWWWW’ing and accept that your community is what it is – this cry of “MUST ACCEPT ME, MUST ACCEPT EVERYFUR” is what damns you in the end.

    Pedos. Animal Abusers. Individuals who take advantage of other’s need to feel ‘accepted’ or ‘like they belong’. These things are not acceptable in normal society, why do you let them persist in your little freak fringe group?
37. 

    natu
    

    Dec 5th, 2007
    

    wow, so really just about anybody can post what ever they want on the herald huh? just a giant free-for all hate site where you can dress up opinion as an article
38. 

    Kitten Martynov
    

    Dec 5th, 2007
    

    No, not anybody.

    I submitted a satirical “rape IS sexy” piece in response to Penance Sauterau’s closed-minded article “rape is NOT sexy” and wasn’t even given the decency of a response. So anybody with a judgemental, morality-minded opinion can be published, but no radical free-thinkers allowed.

    Right, because bigotry is much less offensive.
39. 

    Penny Sautereau
    

    Dec 5th, 2007
    

    Kitten Martynov; Rape, real rape, is NOT sexy. It’s traumatic and horrifying and leaves lifelong scars. My article wasn’t closed-minded it was an OPINION. Rape Fantasy may be sexy to some but keep it in private. REAL rape is never sexy, and my opinion, repeat OPINION piece was about assholes who try to virturape people publicly thinking they’re being funny. Do I personally think rape fantasy shouldn’t exist? Yes, but I’m not calling for it to be banned between consenting adults in private, I never was. Get the stick out of your own ass before bitching about the one you think is in mine.

    As for the original article here? People who waste time typing about how gross babyfurs are and blatantly lying about how all of them MUST be pedophiles because a handful actualy are, well, you have really screwed up priorities and need to get a life. Babyfurs are like every other group. Most are decent people being made to look bad because a few total fuckwits become the ones everyone identifies the whole with. Like evengelists being mistaken as representing all Christians, or the sick fucks of NAMBLA being mistaken as representing all gay men. To judge a whole by a tiny fraction of it’s parts is just ignorance, plain and simple, and you need to grow up and open your mind.

    Besides, if Babyfurs are everywhere, why have I met only two in my half-year on SL.
40. 

    anon
    

    Dec 5th, 2007
    

    There is no such thing as a “reformed” griefer – only one who was not a griefer in the first place.

    Ohmmmmmmmmmm.
41. 

    Kes
    

    Dec 5th, 2007
    

    @ CaptainAmerica

    Yes I hate America because I told someone to shut up after posting offensive garbage. That’s a perfectly logical leap of logic. *claps*
    Are you telling me the author of this “article” cares about the freedom of expression? Or only when it applies to individuals the s/he finds acceptable?
42. 

    CaptainAmerica
    

    Dec 6th, 2007
    

    @Kes

    How long have you hated America?
43. 

    Bob Stoops
    

    Dec 6th, 2007
    

    This article proves that the Herald hires 7th graders occasionally to “write” “articles” ..is this legit? Or, I bet that the editor forgot to log out while editing, went to the restroom – and his pimply-faced, Dungeons and Dragons partner typed this out in about 3 minutes as a joke.. except nobody is laughing.
44. 

    Neko ageplayer
    

    Dec 6th, 2007
    

    Okay here’s the hilarious part of this whole furry VS antifurry BAWWWWWfest from both sides.

    Aside from writing ‘baaaawwwww babyfurs are evil pedophiles whine maon bitch’ ‘articles’ in this ‘newspaper’ like blog, there is NOTHING else that babyfur, ageplayer and furry haters can do about it.

    They can bitch and moan here and on other blogs, 7chan, and wherever they want, and they can try to bring the furry and babyfur sims down temporarily with their little griefer toys, but there’s nothing else that they can do.

    Cause fact remains, that LL doesnt mind furries, (hey, there’s a furry AV in the library now, that should be a clue!) they love furries. Also, only SEXUAL ageplay is against TOS, not ageplay in general.

    So keep on bitching you losers, cause theres no way you can get LL to make all ageplay and having a furry AV against TOS.

    It wont make a lick of difference.

    Short recap for the /r/tards:

    You can bitch
    you can whine
    you can BAAAAAWWWWW
    you can write 1001 Second Griefer Herald articles
    you can lulzcube
    you can particlespam
    but
    you can NOT stop us.

    In other words…

    Bring it on mo-fo
45. 

    Anonymous
    

    Dec 6th, 2007
    

    there’s a typo in the article

    it should be “Your limit is the linden’s and the “community’s” imagination.

    do anything beyond what’s considered “acceptable” by people who designate themselves as the community and various linden pawns, and you get blacklisted and harassed.

    Which says something when LL will not touch an issue like this.

    You know why babyfurs get to stay while other kinds of fucked up pedophilia and various sick fetishes get booted out?

    Simple. furries are the ones buying all the useless shit and pouring more money into the grid than anyone else because they practically live on the internet, and to support their little fetishes and “cultures” they have to use the internet as reality would more or less shun them and laugh at them (much like online! lol) except they’re less likely to be beaten to death online.

    So in the end, LL will put a little more protection on any and all furry interests in SL.

    If you say, griefed a normal sim like a strip club or something, your chances of being banned would be about 50%

    grief a furry sim, expect, within seconds a linden to show up and personally handle the matter, or just being “normal” looking while people grief a furry sim, you may find yourself completely banned from second life, account deleted and wiped with no way to contest it, along with an ip ban and a mac address ban.

    I know a few people who experienced the above scenarios. not the best examples, but the point is. LL cares about whoever nets them the most money, aka, the people pouring the most money into SL.

    So the next time you see something unfair, remember kids, Linden Labs doesn’t care about you unless you’re part of a group that gives LL their bread and butter.

    plus, if you’re part of a group that bitches loud enough, you can make LL do anything you want. there are a few non-furry groups who have their own personal lindens because of this.

    Furries own SL. sad, yet true fact.
46. 

    BrickTamland
    

    Dec 6th, 2007
    

    Righteous Yaffle, so called reformed griefer

    First of all griefers don’t reform, the continue griefing until it dosen’t become fun anymore, at which point they stop playing this shitty game.
    you are a poser.
    Secondly, you make it sound like griefing is something wrong, and here you are a getting bent out of shape at the very thing the most powerful griefing organization in second life, the Patriotic Nigras, have sworn to destroy. Seems to me like you still want to grief these sick fucks. Come over to the side of truth and justice. Join the Patriotic Nigras Righteous Yaffle, and help us wipe the grid clean of this abomination once and for all.
47. 

    ichabod Antfarm
    

    Dec 6th, 2007
    

    I don’t think “reformed” means what you think it means.

    Articulate enough to sign my, albeit SL, name.

    Cheers,

    ichabod Antfarm.
48. 

    Kes
    

    Dec 6th, 2007
    

    @CaptainAmerica

    Ever since you got here.
49. 

    CaptainAmerica
    

    Dec 6th, 2007
    

    @Kes

    So do you agree that you hate freedom?
50. 

    Anonymous
    

    Dec 7th, 2007
    

    if the PN are the most powerful griefers in SL, then there isnt much of a threat at all. kind of invalidates all the anti-griefer groups as well, imho

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