Justice League Unlimited On The Teen Grid?

by Alphaville Herald on 16/01/08 at 10:34 pm

by Chloe Mason

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Kalel Venkman’s controversial “anti-griefer” group – the Justice League Unlimited – have consistently claimed to strictly adhere to the Terms of Service. But some wonder if the similarities between the Justice League Unlimited and the Teen Titans Unlimited indicate a TOS violation on the part of the Justice League Unlimited or members of the Teen Titans Unlimited.

To protect minors from the adult content in Second Life, Linden Labs maintains two separate grids, the main grid and the Teen Grid. The Teen Grid is only meant to be accessible to youths between the ages of 13 and 18. The penalties for adults found to be fraudulently accessing the Teen Grid involve a near instant perma-ban as well as reporting identifying information on the account to the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children. The main grid is off limits to those who qualify for the Teen Grid, although the Lindens enforcement of this sort of TOS violation has been spotty, at best.

Investigating a tip from a recently ejected JLU member led this reporter to enlist the assistance of her younger sister to log on to the Teen Grid to search for the presence of a JLU branch on the Teen Grid. What was uncovered was a group calling themselves the Teen Titans Unlimited. Several key similarities between the groups suggest a surprisingly close alliance – or are some members role playing in another age-group’s gird?

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Both groups descriptions start with the motto “To protect the weak, and defend the innocent” and end with the phrase “To find out more, contact any of the officers in the Justice League/Teen Titans Unlimited”. Both groups also mention a key mission: “We do our best to help those in need of aid.” Is this just a coincidence?

“I knew they were on the Teen Grid,” said the ex-JLU member. “I remember seeing a texture of a Teen Titans tower in the Watchtower, which Kalel mentioned as having been on the Teen Grid. Of course with the way they talked about Cid, and their readiness to punish someone for passing word along, it really doesn’t surprise me that Kalel would have such big skeletons in his closet.”

Could Kalel have decided, for the betterment of the grid, to violate the Terms of Service and establish his own presence on the Teen Grid? How is it that there is such a close alignment of mission statements between two groups?

In related news, the Herald received reports earlier this week that Kalel Venkman was added to the mulit-sim Banlink list – a list used by a number of landowners to share land bans of undesirables. According to our sources there were no complaints about Kalel’s appearance on the land ban list – our sources tell us this is a sign of the karmic imbalances of the metaverse sorting themselves out.

41 Responses to “Justice League Unlimited On The Teen Grid?”

  1. ^ban^

    Jan 16th, 2008

    Oh man.

    I always knew they were pedos, but this? This is just great.

  2. Anonymous

    Jan 16th, 2008

    More proof of Linden Labs’ favoritism policy.

    If you make them appear to look good, they turn the other way and will even help.

    Just they wont claim to have ties so if you do something bad, they arent at fault.

    anonymous JLU backlash in 3…

  3. Kalel Venkman

    Jan 16th, 2008

    We know about the Teen Titans Unlimited on the Teen Grid – however, from what we’ve heard, the group really hasn’t done very much.

    I can’t say I think very much about an “investigative reporter” that doesn’t bother to check any facts before writing an article. The last two about the League were great works of fiction, having little or nothing to do with the facts, and this one seems to be following the pattern.

  4. Kalel Venkman

    Jan 16th, 2008

    It is true, however, that there has been an entry made against me in SLBanLink. Since the source of this ban was himself permabanned from Second Life for repeated and serious violations, I’m not terribly concerned, and this won’t have any real effect.

  5. Maldavius

    Jan 17th, 2008

    Justice at last.

  6. das_fuhrer

    Jan 17th, 2008

    Come on Venkman, this is just pathetic.

    Even the JLU can attain new lows.

  7. JLU fiddles kiddies

    Jan 17th, 2008

    If anyone belongs on that banlist, it’s Kalel and his band of mercenary vigilantes.

    Kalel: once you stop looking like Superman and acting like Dog the Bounty Hunter, maybe people will start treating you properly. Until then though, you’re nothing but an anal speck that needs to be wiped off the grid.

  8. Ilsa Munro

    Jan 17th, 2008

    Lord knows I’m no expert on SL, or comic books, or super heros, but isn’t there – let’s apply the old saying about imitation being the sincerest form of flattery – a huge amount of flattery in the comic book world? I mean in the real comic books isn’t everyone just a rehash of Superman or Batman?

    If that’s the case then isn’t it possible that someone on the teen grid read about the group on the main grid and decided to copy it? Or even contacted the main group and “franchised” it?

    Of course given the nature of teens (assuming that there actually are any on the teen grid) I’d have to say that they seem to be asking to be ostracized and mocked by the cool kids, but whatever floats ones boat.

  9. WitnessX

    Jan 17th, 2008

    Kalel was added to Banlink by Tizzers Foxchase who has become a martyr at the hands of the JLU. She was permanently banned for pasting a chat log, hardly a serious offense and something that everybody has done at one time or another.

    “I’m not terribly concerned, and this won’t have any real effect.”

    The fact that not one single person has disputed your entry on Banlink speaks for itself. Wake up and smell the roses Kalel, nobody likes you.

  10. Micheru Mathys

    Jan 17th, 2008

    Mind you that Kalel has a son, who could easily have legit access to the teen grid. I don’t think jumping to extremes is nessecary, as there are already DOZENS of JLU copy groups in the group search, most of which are populated by griefers and kids who want to pretend to be heroes.

    The Herald’s got major problems. Most of the posts I have no problem with, but the fact that it allows such vitriol from it’s writers is incredibly saddening. I remember when news organizations had to prove what they wrote. Now it’s slander and conjecture. You, my friends, are Charlatans. Not only charlatans, but idiotic predatory monkeys, leaping out to attack a perceived threat without provocation, without proof.

    Die, in an inferno.
    Yes, I am a JLU member, but I’m not blind. I keep my eyes open, I attend meetings, I see what goes on in the group, and if I thought for a second that what our founders and other members were doing was wrong, abusive, illegal, or against the creed set forth in any way, I’d walk out that instant.

    No love,
    -Micheru Mathys

  11. Kalel Venkman

    Jan 17th, 2008

    I’m going to humor this silliness for a while, because there are a few things that I think really need to be said.

    Tizzers Foxchase is no martyr. He was not banned for pasting a single chat log. To my knowledge, he was banned for a number of serious ongoing violations of Terms of Service and community standards, including but not limited to unnumerable counts of disclosure, harassment, disturbing the peace, intolerance, a possible misrepresentation of the educational status of the Woodbury University sim (the potential fallout of which would have been the defrauding of Linden Labs out of approximately two thousand dollars in United States currency), creating a monument to intolerance in the form of Woodbury University (as has been well documented in other Herald articles) and knowingly contributing to organized griefing. Despite his claims to the contrary, he was in full knowledge that the PN were at Woodbury the entire time they were there – I have been told by Lindens that the chat logs bore this out.

    I am not privy to everything Foxchase ever said about anyone else, or everything he ever did, but the only true friend he had in Second Life was himself. The others were his playthings to manipulate or torment.

    At the very moment he was trying to apologize to me for the multiple ToS violations it took to orchestrate a trip to my home in real life, and swearing off griefing, he was photographed trolling Prokofy Neva using his Azzu Manga alt ( http://secondthoughts.typepad.com/second_thoughts/2007/11/lindens-deny-gr.html ).

    The Justice League gives out emergency signals so that residents can call for assistance if they’re being griefed. At the same time as Tizzers was attempting to negotiate peace with me a second time on January 1, the day of his final permaban, he was also working with a member of the Patriotic Nigras to reverse engineer one of the emergency signals so that the Patriotic Nigras could either break into our database or destroy our ability to communicate with one another.

    There has been a quixotic campaign in the Herald of late, to perform a character assassination of myself and the Justice League. Two articles were penned by Nikola Shirakawa, decrying me as the root of all evil in Second Life. Nikola himself was a member of the Justice League, and when it became clear to him that he could not commandeer the group to his own purposes, decided he would attempt to destroy it instead. He used his inside access to feed a near-continuous stream of information to the Patriotic Nigras. When caught, he at first tried to shift the blame to innocent League members to avoid having to face the music. Once ejected, he committed dozens of acts of disclosure within Second Life and received a suspension for that. He also published my personal information in such specific and great detail in the Herald that he would have gotten an instant permaban had he done these things in Second Life. He uses the Herald as a shield to commit acts of aggression against myself and others without fear of consequences.

    He formed the Free Fandom Project. This was to make science fiction and media fandom more accessible to the average fan – these things should be free, he said. This appeared very noble. Four months later, he wrote a letter of resignation complaining that the members all wanted things for free and weren’t contributing, and complained that he was perfectly justified in taking the free things that others had donated to his group and selling them on SLExchange for a personal profit.

    He called this a “service fee”, but what had actually happened was that he, once again, had gotten caught with his hand in the cookie-jar, having said one thing and then doing the opposite.

    We once had a picture of the Teen Titans Unlimited in the Justice League Watchtower – however, this had been taken down in August of 2007. The only “recently ejected JLU” that could have seen it to report its existence to Ms. Mason would have been Nikola Shirakawa, so this very directly identifies this article as yet another attempt by Nikola to take his revenge on the people he once counted as his friends, and then betrayed.

    Nikola was ejected from the League – let’s see now – it would have been over half a year ago, and he still hasn’t gotten over it, and he’s still deeply engaged in his complex (though transparent) vendetta against both myself and the Justice League.

    His vendetta, these articles and the vitriolic posts, arent’ about the saving civilization as we know it from the “evil” Justice League – a group of teachers, doctors, lawyers and creative professionals from all walks of life who have come together in the common goal of trying to make Second Life a better place for its residents. It’s about Nikola Shirakawa, Tizzers Foxchase and others being angry
    about getting caught doing something they know in their hearts they’re not supposed to have been doing, and being forced to take responsibility for their own actions.

    And because the League reports what we see to the people who can evaluate their actions and do something about them, we’re “evil”. Almost without exception, the posts here in the Herald against me and the Justice League have been made by people who have had to face the music as an indirect result of our actions. Since they cannot do anything to the Lindens, they take aim at us instead.

    Shoot the messenger.

    We’re not the bad guys here. Let me illuminate.

    The “bad guys” are those people who make us afraid to stand up for what’s right, because we might be the victims of character assassination in public if we try it.

    The bad guys are those who make us distrust joy and dread victory, because of the retribution it might bring, who make us hide in our holes and sit on our hands, doing nothing instead of rising up.

    The bad guys are those who try to stamp out every scrap of generosity, and decency, openness and courage, who’ve made reaching upward to something more, to try to lift those around them nothing more than an an exercise in futility. They have taken hope and made it a horrible thing, to be feared and shunned, and bound and gagged it and thrown it into the abyss.

    The bad guys belittle caring about your fellows, standing squarely in the sun and speaking the truth, and tell you that the only possible path is despair. They make us forget what we are capable of as God’s creations, and we turn our backs on what we could become and what we could truly accomplish. We lie hidden in the half light and when somebody comes along to tell us it doesn’t have to be that way, we cover our ears because we’re just as sure that it does.

    They want us to stop caring and surrender to all this, because hope is dead – we should surrender instead of fighting, because there’s nothing we can do, and never will be.

    Why did we pick comic books as our theme? Why not more police, another SWAT team, another fake FBI group? Or just plain clothes?

    The flashy costumes and comic book personnae are a lot of fun – if it wasn’t fun, we wouldn’t do it. But they do more than that. These costumes are a part of our culture. They stand for something people want to believe in. They represent truth, and justice. We’re more than people in brightly colored costumes. By wearing these costumes, we become symbols of hope – not only to other residents of Second Life, but to each other as well. They remind us of what being on the side of good is really all about.

    When I first came to Second Life, I didn’t realize how much like real life this place can be. This virtual world is populated by the complete spectrum of humanity. The vast majority are generous, thoughtful, intelligent and caring. A few, however, take delight in tormenting others. It’s these few that can destroy the very fabric of this virtual society.

    So when you read the posts that will surely follow this one, think about all this. We don’t have to be afraid to stand up for what’s right and just and true in the world. We don’t have to let other people push us back into the darkness for trying to make the world a better place. And we don’t have to be afraid to join together in that common goal.

    Let us not allow those who carry hate in their hearts to dissuade us. Our allies are still truth, and justice, and hope. And above all, our faith and belief in each other.
    The Justice League still exists and is thriving despite all that’s happened – and despite everything that’s happened to me at the hands of Nikola Shirakawa, Tizzers Foxchase and people like them, I still believe.


    Okay – go ahead and start posting lies and vitriol, and get it out of your systems. But you should really consider just letting go of it and moving on. Hate is a luxury no one can afford – it taxes you, and takes your energies away from the important things in your lives that really need your attention – like your families, your relationships, your jobs and your schoolwork. Think about the futures you have and what you’re sacrificing.

    All the griefers I have known have far greater potential than they realize – even the really heinous ones. Everyone has something in them that makes them worthwhile. Take a moment, and breath for a while, and find that something, and spend some of that boundless energy on something that will do you some good.

    - Kalel

  12. whos looking

    Jan 17th, 2008

    oh cool! there are super heros on the teen grid too? oh wait. you logged in to the teen grid? pervert! pedo! oh. oh, i see. its okay. your sister was hitting the keys. whew. now i feel better. so, did you first subject her to the content on the main grid, or did you simply tell her exactly what to do on the teen grid. cause niether of those things would be at all creepy or anything. ciao

  13. DaveOner

    Jan 17th, 2008

    I dunno…this looks to me like a decent amount of fact-checking has been done. The screen captures speak for themselves, really.

    Also, I wouldn’t put it past these guys to come to the conclusion that if their “protection” is needed so badly on the main grid then those wacky kids are going to need even MORE protection from each other!

    My ultimate opinion on groups like JLU? They’re purely masturbatory. If you’re too dumb to figure out how to keep out of trouble with griefers then you shouldn’t be helped. You should figure out how to protect yourself BY yourself. It’s not like RL where people have physical or social limitations that cannot be overcome. In SL we all start as the guy with the white shirt and sandals or the girl with the pink shirt and sandals.

    What I do find…interesting, though is the reporter’s “little sister” story. I don’t buy that for a second.

  14. Nacon

    Jan 17th, 2008

    pedos-tards… Uriz… where’s the real news, ya crack head.

  15. GreenLantern Excelsior

    Jan 17th, 2008

    I’m a member of JLU. I would be willing to bet good money that none of our members has an account on the teen grid. For what possible reason would anyone do that? Why would someone risk being banned from both places? The consequences wouldn’t be worth the risk.

    Come up with something more substantial than vague similarities and accusations from discredited former members and your article may have more credibility. This is just silly stuff.

  16. Witness X

    Jan 17th, 2008

    The above comments made by a “Witness X” were not written by a Witness or NoName, nor are endorsed. It was more likely a PN member.

    This truly a trash article Pixeleen. The Herald did pretty good for awhile but now has sunken to even lower lows. All this article is based on speculation and heresy WITHOUT LOOKING AT THE FACTS and WITHOUT LOOKING DEEPER INTO THE MATTER.

    As for the banlink adding of Kalel. Intlibber allows many PN and characters of dubious moral character (such as Tizzers and possibly Alyx) to make entries on banlink. Since banlink is based on others subscribing to a person’s list I’m sure many do no subscribe to Intlibber’s list do to his dubious actions as of late and possibility that he himself might be threat to the grid.

    This article was obviously just made to fan the flames and bring in more clicks and give the PN and such yet another sounding box. This is the Herald’s speed now. It was been said in the past the Herald needs to drop the “Second Life” and just name themselves the PN/Chan Herald.

  17. Penny Sautereau

    Jan 17th, 2008

    I think we should start a petition to unban Tizzers, she’s a decent person, who fucked up minorly once or twice. Let he has has never screwed up or made a bad choice put on a costume and pretend they’re Brandon Routh.

  18. Nikola Shirakawa

    Jan 17th, 2008

    I would say there is a good possibility of the group being disconnected, but if that was the case, would it not seem more likely they would also call themselves JLU? I mean why would they make up a name like that except to identify with Kalel’s group?

    Nice reference to Tizzers as male. Considering this was never seen anywhere in her profile, or mentioned anywhere in-grid, you’re guilty of even greater disclosure there.

    And that Dog the Bounty Hunter comparison was just mean. Dog’s a far nicer guy to the dirtbags than Kalel would ever be.

  19. A-Non-E-Moose

    Jan 17th, 2008

    The only people who think the JLU is ‘controversial’ are 1) the pathetic griefers who can’t stay in world longer than 20 minutes before their activities get their latest alt deleted from the database by the Lindens, 2) the closet griefers who have skirted the Linden law for months and months and are one more cumulative infraction away from getting perma-banned themselves, and 3) the Herald, who manufacture false controversy daily to drum up readership for this sad, griefer-infested trash tabloid.

    Fresh out of Brittany sightings today, editor?

  20. A-Non-E-Moose

    Jan 17th, 2008

    And maybe the JLU got that picture from the Teen Grid the same way YOUR reporter got their Teen Grid pics for this article: some qualified teen took them and sent them to a grown up. Big freaking conspiracy you uncovered there. I can just see the Herald’s Pulitzer for crack investigative reporting now; or maybe its just the police report for the Herald’s crack smoking.

  21. anonymous

    Jan 17th, 2008

    Whilst I respect the fact that Kalel Venkman and the JLU probably began their Second Lives with good intentions, I think what is becoming apparent is that no one is above the law. In their relentless pursuit of evil on the grid, I suspect that they have stared too long at the beast and thus become like him. Perhaps it is time for Kalel and friends to swallow a dose of modesty and humility and to recognize that they were duped into believing Tizzers Foxchase orchestrated the actions of the PN. Remember the wicked witch who lived down the street, and that you were too afraid to knock on her door when your ball went into her yard? That is what you have become Kalel Venkman and shame on you for doing so.

  22. Libel

    Jan 17th, 2008

    “Now it’s slander and conjecture. ”

    Correction. It’s libel if it’s print!

  23. A-Non-E-Moose

    Jan 17th, 2008

    Who the hell are you people to accuse Kalel Venkman or anyone else of wrongdoing based on the specious ‘reporting’ of a Herald ‘reporter’? Apparently you’ll believe anything you see on the internet in clear defiance of the actual facts. If Venkman and crew had in fact violated the TOS and CS, don’t you think they would have been banned themselves by now? Or that we’d hear about them getting reprimanded or suspended? ANYTHING? But no, its only butt hurt griefer children who complain about the big, bad JLU for tattling.

    And the only reason Venkman is on the BanLink list is because Tizzers, while he had the power thanks to IntLibber, put him on the list as a premeditated act of vengeance. Unlike the Linden AR system which is based on EVIDENCE AND SERVER LOGS, BanLink is a ‘trust’ system: you can decide whether an individual providing names to the list is reliable or not. And if you think that ol’ (perma-banned) Tizzy was a reliable source then you must be smoking the Herald’s leftover crack.

  24. Anonymous

    Jan 18th, 2008

    “And if you think that ol’ (perma-banned) Tizzy was a reliable source then you must be smoking the Herald’s leftover crack.

    Posted by: A-Non-E-Moose | January 17, 2008 at 10:52 PM”

    The herald’s leftover crack is very nice. Thank you.

  25. Nikola Shirakawa

    Jan 18th, 2008

    Again, Kalel, slander and disclosure there. I protray myself as female, and I find it very offensive that you would disclose so so easily there.

    The free fandom items on the Exchange are the ones I MADE. Get them there, or in world, and double check yourself. Ask Marcus Prospero. Ask anyone who got them. Check those same group notices and see who first posted them. They’re all mine.

    I resigned not just because no one was contributing, but that in addition, I was being called a thief just like you see have there.

    I’m not the guy who said that, Kalel. You just love to assume everyone’s me. Was Candice me? Oh no, that’s right, that was tizzers, you just wanted it to be me. What about BCBUDDHA? Again, not me, you like to jump to your little conclusions.

    I must inform you, however, that this will be my only response, as I am preparing to hang myself. Not for sad reasons or anything, but I’m simply done with this life, and I want to move on to the next life where I will be who i really am on the inside, a proud woman. That’s right, in all your tolerant and talk, you never even thought about the transsexual possibility did you? No, i’m just some little boy, who never could grow up. I tell you right now, i’m as hap[py as I have ever been, and I’m sayign goodbye

    By the wya, I posted and made it clear JLU was not welcome in the Fandom Project. How did you get that notice except by poking your head in where you were not welcome, boyo?

  26. Penny Sautereau

    Jan 18th, 2008

    Um, Kal? I’ve never griefed or violated the TOS, I behave myself on SL, and judging by your own words and actions I think you come off as a mildly deluded, power-tripping, ego-driven bully lately. What does that do to your theory that only the “bad” guys disparage you? Your own actions and words put you on par with the griefers, at their level, and just as unpleasant. But anyone who says so is lying. Riiiiiiight.

    And christ I thought MY comments got long-winded sometimes?

    You are not a noble superhero righting wrns and fighting for justice.

    You’re a guy with an avatar on an MMO who bullies people in the name of justice and behaves in a fashion as pushy, obnoxious and repressive as those you fight against. Your words prove this even to the bystanders. Lighten up and do what the rest of us do; Ignore assholes and focus on better things. Fighting fire with fire just leaves everyone burned.

  27. Chloe Mason

    Jan 18th, 2008

    My sister has been on the grid for weeks. She’s actually got quite a nice little shop on there. All I asked her to do was bring up group search and take a picture of what came up. And I never spoke to Nikola Shirakawa before today. I mean recent when I say recent. I, and my source, have never said the picture itself was recent. You forget too quickly how many people you ejected, Mr. Venkman.

  28. Lord Kamina

    Jan 18th, 2008


    But seriously, if you don’t realize that Witness X is Kalel by now, you’re a moron. Look how quickly Witness X jumps to retract those statements and then try to defend Kalel. Check and mate.

  29. SqueezeOne Pow

    Jan 18th, 2008

    A police state becomes less and less necessary when the police are taken out of the equasion.

    Kalel and his buddies are causing the very issues they claim to fight. If they went away then all these problems would, too.

    They aren’t even really needed anyway.

  30. GreenLantern Excelsior

    Jan 18th, 2008

    “I must inform you, however, that this will be my only response, as I am preparing to hang myself.”

    Nikola, if you are speaking seriously and not just being overly dramatic, let’s talk about it first. There are alternatives other than death that you may find more acceptable. Hell, almost anything’s better than death, isn’t it? I’ll look for you this evening.

  31. A-Non-E-Moose

    Jan 18th, 2008

    What Nikola failed to mention to the ignorant readers of the Herald is that he only recently switched to a female avatar. For the vast majority of his time in SL he represented himself as male and noted such in the First Life tab of his profile. He alone is responsible for making his RL gender matter of public record. Just another of his sad attempts to discredit others and distract from the real issue; his continued ethical lapses and betrayals.

    Frankly, the Herald is in deep, deep legal trouble for publishing what is apparently a suicide note. They should have alerted authorities somewhere and that note should never have seen the light of day to feed Nikola’s delusional mental state any further. I hope the cops come knocking on their RL doors REAL soon asking for an explanation. The Herald better hope he was bluffing.

  32. Kalel Venkman

    Jan 18th, 2008

    To Nikola: Regarding how I learned about the conditions of your departure from your own Free Fandom Project, the remaining operators of the group reinvited us after you left. The notice was in the archives – just that simple.

    To Penny: my post was about hope and decency, and how everyone has a right to have these things in their lives. Anyone has the right to stand up and be counted in favor of these things if they wish to as I see it. I have a hard time believing that the vast majority of people disagree with that ideal.

  33. Penny Sautereau

    Jan 18th, 2008

    @Nikola Shirakawa

    I REALLY hope that’s just a bad joke. If not, PLEASE IM me in-world before you commit to it? Ending this life that way just gets you punished in the next, not rewarded.

  34. Penny Sautereau

    Jan 19th, 2008

    —”To Penny: my post was about hope and decency, and how everyone has a right to have these things in their lives. Anyone has the right to stand up and be counted in favor of these things if they wish to as I see it. I have a hard time believing that the vast majority of people disagree with that ideal.?

    No one argued with the ideal Kal. The problem everyone has is with your gestapo manner of trying to acheive it. And because I stood up and said “Dude, you’re acting just like the people you’re fighting against” I’ve now gotten sucked into your personal delusion and you think I’m someone else. Even claim to have somehow confirmed it which is frankly bullshit since Penny Sautereau is who I am, and the only avatar I’ve had or ever will have. I first joined SL 2 days before my birthday after reading about it in a magazine. I’ve never been in your vaunted costume party nor ever wished to. At a friend’s suggestion when Cod3c first began griefing me I asked for your help, and had never heard of the JLU on SL before that day we spoke in my old shop in Venture Square. You commented on my DC Teeshirts, especially the Kingdom Come Superman tee, of which I gave you a freebie for seeming nice and helpful. Then I never heard from you again. I suppose one person being griefed isn’t worthy of your mighty efforts. Fortunately Cod3c got boring and is now easily ignored, even though he still does it and claims it’s someone else using his lolcubez, he’s easily ignored now, but you? I’ve read your smug comments on these boards and you scare me. At least Cod3c and the PN know they’re being pointless assholes. You actually believe you’re noble and altruistic, and you actually believe any observation that you act like a domineering paranoid bully is a lie that is believed only by griefers and troublemakers.

    Except I’ve never gotten in trouble with the Lindens. I’ve never been contacted by them or warned about my behavior because I never violate the rules. I don’t harass anyone or misbehave. I make my buildings and my clothes and generally hang out with my family and friends on sl. I rarely go to anyplace outside of the 6 sims I most often visit, and I haven’t met or spoken to you in world since you gave me that silly JLU signal alert watch object in my store and then never talked to me again. And now because I added my voice to the crowd of people who observe the behavior you’re in such deep denial of, your defense against little harmless inconsequential me is to claim you have proof that I’m someone else’s alt?

    1) I’m not transsexual, I’m intersexed. And I’m neko on SL to a point, but I’ve never used the name Neko.

    2) I’m a woman, calling me he just makes you look further paranoid and reactionary

    3) I’ll lower myself to your level for a moment. I DARE you to post whatever imaginary confirmation you have that I’m anyone but myself. I’m curious to see just how Fox Muldar you are.

    If Superman were real Kal, he’d be ashamed of you.

    Maybe I’ll make you a Bizarro outfit to wear. It’d be a LOT more accurate, since you’ve become a twisted distortion of your vaunted ideals.

    Remember, Hitler too believed he was fighting for the ideals you espouse.

    That doesn’t mean the ideals are bad. It just means you don’t truly understand what they mean.

  35. IntLibber Brautigan

    Jan 19th, 2008

    What an interesting bawwwwfest. Of course Angel doesn’t want to touch this one with a ten meter penis (though I’m sure he’d enjoy it).
    Here are the facts: the former PN, who became spies for me MANY months ago, and were a key component of our own estate security (had to, Kalel and Angel, who use packet sniffer software to spy on anybody in SL they want to, illegally, which is the true source of their own intel, which they only grudgingly hand out in dribs and drabs to demonstrate their phallic superiority and fantastic intel kung-fu) and were crucial in some of the most epic psyops against the PN. Angel and Kalel got all butthurt that we at BNT embarassing them with their fail (of course, convincing Kalel to convince Angel to go along with the Angel = Mudkips story was its own epic psyop itself, which REALLY burns their asses).
    BNT’s banlist on banlink is the superior ju-ju, and everybody knows it, and banning Captain Tightpants from our estates via banlink has only improved our estate security. I invite everbody else to do the same. The JLU are griefer attractors, the PN lol and rofl when they hear the JLU is out, and they flock to wherever a JLU member is. You let the JLU in your sims, you will get griefed by the PN. We learned this lesson after several months. Since we divorced ourselves from Angel and Kalel, we have been griefer free. I invite the rest of SL to do likewise.

  36. Surprise!

    Jan 20th, 2008

    I think that’s the first time I’ve ever heard you guys spell IntLibber’s name correctly. I bet it was very difficult to resist the temptation to post as “IntBlubber” or one of your other pet names.

    /me applauds

  37. Hewee Zetkin

    Jan 20th, 2008

    > Penny Sautereau is who I am, and the only avatar I’ve had or ever will have.

    Umm, Penny? You sure about that? Maybe you have an alt you’ve used in the last seven months or so? Otherwise, how can you know what’s going on in our virtual world–and come even close to knowing what the heck you are talking about–if you haven’t logged in since last June? I’m even wondering what you know about SL at all, when the whole of your in-world time was spent over the period of a month.

    I’m sure you’ll login sometime today, to catch up on your user experience a little and add some credibility. With that in mind, I’ve taken the liberty of including a screenshot URL below, so our friends the readers here will know what I am talking about.


  38. IntLibber Brautigan

    Jan 20th, 2008

    Well that wasn’t me, but I cannot say that I disagree with that post much beyond the bad grammar. Might have been one of our security people, they know the facts, and that post is 100% accurate. I can only add that convincing Maldavius Figtree that the Angel = Mudkips story was his idea was the easiest part of the whole plan, him taking credit for it publicly resulted in him receiving a lot of drama, which I cannot say that I’m sad about, of everyone in SL, he deserves the negative attention the most.
    That whole scene, Angel, Kalel, JLU, PS, PN, etc is one huge festering pustule of drama by people with too much time on their hands and not enough creativity or ingenuity to put it to good productive, profitable use. JLU and the PN are like Bush and al Qaeda: they both need each other to survive, they boost and promote each other to add to the drama. I would not be at all surprised to find out that key players play on both sides of the fence, the sort of dialectical conflict that Prok loves to write about with her leninist consipracy theories. My Angel = Mudkips story was fiction, but I think that it reflects a much deeper truth about that whole conflict, which is why it struck so deep a chord on all sides.

  39. Witness X

    Jan 20th, 2008

    Or the name Penny could be short for Penance, which IS her name, as can be verified with a screencap that matches what she’s said.


    Try again, Justice Lord.

  40. Penance "Penny" Sautereau

    Jan 20th, 2008

    I think Witness X defending me there should count for brownie points towards him not being Kal. I doubt, as delusional as he is, that Kal would defend me right after attepting to MacCarthy me just to prove one poster isn’t an alias of his.

    As for Kal himself well…

    Comedian/Actor/Conspiracy flake Richard Belzer once posed the theory of “the Big Lie”, wherein if you tell a lie big enough, and tell it often enough, to as many people as you can, it becomes it’s own truth and nothing you do can disprove it, because enough people believe it and thus it becomes impossible to truly dissolve from the record as it were.

    Ask a murder suspect found not guilty how many people they meet that treat them as if they were guilty solely because everyone said they were until evidence proved otherwise? Well, except OJ.

    Seriously, that’s what the JLU is proving they’re about the last week or so on these threads.

    I vote they change their name to the JLM, the Jackass League of MacCarthyism

  41. Witness X

    Jan 20th, 2008

    There are more than one of us Witness X’s. This one happens to think Kalel is batshit fucking loco. Kalel’s probable X variant is an entirely different matter.

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