British Overrun Task Force Marine HQ In Prize Delta Sim
by Alphaville Herald on 18/06/08 at 6:08 am
Musket fire downs marine aircraft, silences machine guns – Redcoats rally round the Confederate flag, force Marines off base with superior numbers — next step: possible taxation without representation, Earl Grey tea, crumpets?
by Caine Constantine
On the morning of Thursday, June 11th 2008, the Merczateers pulled their forces out of Prize Delta after a victory over the Task Force Marines — Marines who had just started rebuilding their home in the sim. But as the last Merczateers left for home to celebrate their definitive conquest, a new threat gathered on the horizon, as what first appeared to be role playing redcoats began appearing in the hub.
Roughly 20 invaders – all wearing tags naming them as “British Rifleman,” were assembling. They were not here for anything less than war. And an epic war is what would transpire on the war-torn lands of the Marines. The Royal Army was out for blood. And tea. And taxes. And the King and Queen, of course.
When the British first arrived, the Marines could not believe they were for real, with their muskets and their calls for the Queen’s tea. The picture above shows the Brtish army decked for war, holding a position they captured halfway through the battle. But at first sight, their intentions were not so clear.
Cole Pashinin, a truly devoted Task Force Marine, thought they were just roleplayers. Understandable considering some of the first things this army of invasion said. British General Ruin Nefarious, leader of the armed force, seemed like he was interested in a cultural exchange at first.
Ruin Nefarious shouts: We are here to represent the glory of our King. Do not fire upon us! We bring gifts. Beads. Etc.
Ruin Nefarious shouts: WE ARE NICE.
Then came the now famous last words.
Cole Pashinin: o..lol just rp’rs
And then…the King’s red tide let loose its angry fury on the Task Force Marines…
Cole Pashinin shouts: HOLY SHIT
Caine Constantine shouts: THE BRITISH ARE COMING! THE BRITISH ARE COMING!
*You died and have been teleported to your home location*
Taken down by musket shot, I returned as quickly as I could to the battlefield. With more of the King’s soldiers flooding in every second, I managed to get to talk to some of them. My first question was what the men were fighting for – they all had a response.
Ruin Nefarious: For King and Country!
Mikael Khalamov: GOOD SIR.
Mikael Khalamov: WE FIGHT FOR TAXES.
Mikael Khalamov: AND THE QUEEN.
Kazuhiro Schnyder: WE FIGHT FOR THE KING
IcedPhoenix Seferis: AND THE QUEEN
IcedPhoenix Seferis: THEY TOOK OUR WIGS!
Knightblade Fayray: Crumpets and Tea!
Knightblade Fayray: They took our scones!
Knightblade Fayray: they took our friggin scones!
Knightblade Fayray shouts: For king and country, eh chaps??!?!?!
Mikael Khalamov shouts: Righto!
Knightblade Fayray: this is the most epic battle evah!
Eazy101 Wilber: GO GO GO!
One of them, Mikael Khalamov, had been drafted into the King’s rifles only moments before the attack and he told me what was going on.
Caine Constantine: Mikael, can I ask some questions?
Mikael Khalamov: Sure
Caine Constantine: Are you all from different SL militaries joining in on this venture? I see a lot of Ordo Imperialis here.
Mikael Khalamov: Most of them are Ordo.
Mikael Khalamov: I’m the only AN.
Caine Constantine: How did this idea come to be?
Mikael Khalamov: Beats me, one of my friends was just like “Go get a musket and come to Prize Delta”. Plus, TFM is both our enemies.
Soon enough though, he had to leave the hub and charge forth, with his best cry of war leading the rest of the redcoats onward.
IcedPhoenix Seferis: FOR CROOKED TEETH EVERYWHERE!!
Knightblade Fayray shouts: KING AND COUNTRY!
Mikael Khalamov shouts: RAAAH!
British General Ruin Nefarious also put his stamp on the nature of the attack.
Ruin Nefarious: This is what happens when I have too much espresso.
So the differences in the previous and current battles were clear. The Merczateers fought the Marines on a roughly 1 to 1 ratio with their standard weapons. Ordo Imperialis and their supplementary soldiers, who will henceforth be collectively called the British, were all using muskets that fired one shot and then required a ten second reload time. To make up for their 18th century technology though, they had overwhelming numerical superiority – at times ranging from two or four British soldiers for every one Marine.
Their technology left the British only able to fight on the ground. The Marines though, not in the mood to lose Prize Delta to these invaders, had already pulled out a new jet fighter.
As airman jeff Lax landed in the middle of the Marine’s ruined town to survey the invaders, I asked for a ride back to the Marine’s base before the crossfire could gun me down again. He obliged, but the British were in close pursuit.
Intus Infinity shouts: THE QUEEN PROTECTS!
Knightblade Fayray shouts: Let’s show these blokes what limeys like us can do!
One of them, noticing the bright jet fighter, called it out.
Water Halberd shouts: METAL BIRD!
Water Halberd shouts: WITCH MAGIC!
General Nefarious pulled out his own musket and called on the men to do the same.
Ruin Nefarious shouts: CONCENTRATE VOLLEY ON THE AIRCRAFT, GENTS.
Ruin Nefarious: draw
Mikael Khalamov shouts: Righto!
British soldier Synth Fhang had a clear message for the Marines.
Synth Fhang shouts: REMEMBER THIS DAY, FOR IT IS THE DAY WE GAIN YOUR LAND! AH HA HA! FOR THE KING!
It was remarkable to watch – lacking their own assault weapons, the British were actually firing their musket balls in volleys to shoot down the Marines on the ground and even in the air. I soon landed in the Marines’ base, and the scene was still chaotic from the last attack. British troops were already closing in on outward positions and still more were arriving on the scene. Some of them though were less than historically accurate. The first flag on the scene was not the British Union Jack, but rather, the Confederate stars and bars.
British Rifleman Striker Dryke, now readying for another charge up the northeast hill, compelled me to follow behind.
Striker Dryke: HURRY CAINE!
Striker Dryke shouts: FOR KING AND CRUMPETS!
Striker Dryke shouts: FOR THE JEWELS!
Striker Dryke shouts: FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!
Eazy101 Wilber: OI CHAPS NO TIME TO DILLY DALLY!
Eazy101 Wilber: LET’S GET EM!
Striker and his fellow riflemen were charging the same derelict three story compound on the far northeast hill of Prize Delta that had been the first stepping stone for the Merczateers’ attack on the base. His war mask obviously struck fear into the hearts of the Marines.
The assault was staged up a rather steep hill, but the King’s men were not afraid to die in exchange for even a mere few feet of open ground. Striker was soon shot down by angry Marines, but with steel bullets whizzing past his head, and even explosives going off right behind him, General Nefarious was leading even more men in their charge on the hill.
The assault was fierce. Marine gunfire, raining down from two towers guarding the entrance to their main compound, could reach almost any point in the sim, and the King’s dead men were proof of it. But Striker’s inspirational charges motivated the men to rally ‘round the flag – albeit, the wrong flag – again and again and again, and eventually, it paid off.
After this last charge, the British took the compound – but this only meant that the fight was now moving indoors. The Marines still had to be cleared out of the structure, and volley fire was proving difficult with the numbers the British had on site. It was now up to marksmanship to win the day. And as Marine 3rd Admiral Mayra Roffo soon found out, the British had this as well. Running for cover, she was soon taken down by concentrated musket fire.
It was here that the British were gathering strength for their charge upstairs. The Marines’ presence in the compound was scattered, and though their technology was far inferior to that of the natives, the British acted as a unified force and worked their way upstairs.
Clearing out each level, they stopped to regroup on the third floor. I was given an invitation to follow them at this point by British rifleman MikeMurdock McMillan.
MikeMurdock McMillan shouts: There is no reason we can’t be civil.
MikeMurdock McMillan shouts: come up here Mr. Caine. We have tea and crumpets.
General Nefarious gave me a brief overview of who his men were. From musicians to servant boys and even Hessian mercenaries, they turned out to be a diverse lot.
Ruin Nefarious: You may photograph me. I am General Nefarious, leader of this battle.
Ruin Nefarious: These individuals are my lieutenants.
Ruin Nefarious: And this is my Quarter Boy, Janus.
Ruin Nefarious: Sergeant Schnyder is a Hessian.
Ruin Nefarious: We paid him in cookies.
Kazuhiro Schnyder:
Ruin Nefarious: Back onto the battle, boy!
Rei Kuhr: For King and Country!
Ruin Nefarious: Corporal Wilber!
Ruin Nefarious: FORM RANKS!
Eazy101 Wilber: TO BATTLE!
Intus Infinity: FOR THE QUEEN, THE KING, AND THE HESSIANS!
It was on the third level where the King’s men posed for an epic shot of their defensive perimeter.
Amidst oncoming gunfire though, they soon had to break ranks and take to the roof, for two reasons. Firstly, Admiral Roffo was back again with a vengeance and the high ground could more effectively provide a strong defense against her persistent and deadly gunfire. Secondly, the King’s messengers had come with new orders.
Ruin Nefarious: Lord Vesperia brings orders, lieutenants.
Ruin Nefarious: We are to take the east tower.
This would allow the British to take out the snipers who had been plaguing them the whole time. As General Nefarious compelled his men upward, British soldiers continued to play their instruments. Their violins and bagpipes continued to counter the Marines’ Shoop sirens still wailing over the chaos of it all.
After I took the liberty of enlightening the men to their historical inaccuracy and giving them a British flag, the King’s riflemen proudly put up the colors over Prize Delta after seizing the roof.
There was still a base to be taken to the west, however. And as all of this was happening – as the British turned the tide towards a victory for the Crown – Cole Pashinin and some of the other Marines still believed this was all some sort of joke and that they were not to be taken seriously.
Cole Pashinin: well…i think its more of a just foolish attack than one to harm us
Cole Pashinin: i mean come on..furrys with muskets..lol
Soon though, through the shouts of Mikael Khalamov, and commanding General Nefarious, even Cole was convinced of the need to go all out on the invaders.
Mikael Khalamov shouts: Volley fire, lads!
Mikael Khalamov shouts: FOR KING AND COUNTRY! CHAAAAARGE!
Ruin Nefarious shouts: RALLY ON THE LINE!
Cole Pashinin shouts:: GIVE THEM A TEAPARTY FELLAS..GIVE EM HELL FROM TFM!
The Marines were fighting but the battle was not going in their favor. Some of them had claimed success. Thompson Aeon, a Marine defender, claimed to have shot down many British riflemen, while angelneko Magic, who had taken part in the battle with the Merczateers, was still having problems. I had given her a free assault rifle during the last battle, and yet somehow she had managed to lose it. The two of them compared their situations.
angelneko Magic: i need a gun
Thompson Aeon: lol
Thompson Aeon: i killed alot
angelneko Magic: i need a gun plz!
At this point, their numbers were starting to thin. Combat in Second Life, where current rules mean you can’t really die, means that most battles are waged with sheer persistence being part of the ultimate path to victory. The Marine base looked like it was soon going to be open to British takeover. Imposing signs were part of all that was left defending it.
With the British by now commanding the highest ground in the area, it was up to them to take the base. British rifleman Sol Cult led the army of the King into the base. Holding not only the Confederate flag, but also dressed and made out to look like a black Confederate soldier, only his bagpipes gave away his true British identity.
Caine Constantine: Why are Confederate flags up here?
Rei Kuhr: One of our British soldiers fell on his head.
Rei Kuhr: Yes. He had an unfortunate incident with a cannonball.
Intus Infinity: Sol Cult isn’t very knowledgable.
Intus Infinity: He thinks it’s a British Flag.
Indeed, from a long distance the two flags could potentially be confused. Later on I was told by a British rifleman that Sol Cult was actually intoxicated during the fight.
Kazuhiro Schnyder: Don’t mind Sol, He’s a tad drunk like usual.
Whatever the case, he managed to evade the fire of the Marines still in the base. And now all that was left for the British – now rampaging through much of the Marine’s base and facing little resistance – was to claim victory. General Nefarious commanded one more barrage of musket balls on the Marines.
Ruin Nefarious shouts: VOLLEY ON THE HILL!
Thompson Aeon shouts:: get your own base!
Synth Fhang shouts: WE HAVE YOUR BASE NOW! FEAR THE BRITISH!
Knightblade Fayray shouts: ALL YOUR BASE BELONG TO KING!
Knightblade Fayray: HAIL TO THE KING, BABY!
And with that – with a bit more shouting and with a bit more gunfire, the British claimed their victory and headed for home, which for most of them was the sim Titan, home of the Ordo Imperialis. They were posing for a victory ceremony there when I caught up with them. Apologies in advance for the grainy shot, but the spirit of victory is evident.
Caine Constantine: Hello everyone, how do you feel about the battle?
Synth Fhang: The kings’ tea was pridefully protected!
Eazy101 Wilber: it was a glorious battle and a win for the queen!
Knightblade Fayray: Jolly good show chaps!
There were numerous remarks on battlefield strategy.
Caine Constantine: What was the British strategy for victory?
Rei Kuhr: Lots of biscuits.
Ruin Nefarious: Our victory was achieved by the pure faith in King and Country.
Krow Ames: Marching in columns and playing loud music with bright colors was our strategy!
Knightblade Fayray: And Tea, musn’t forget that.
To take the picture, which in the end refused to load completely for me, I asked them to maintain their positions.
Caine Constantine: Can you hold position just a bit longer? It is taking me a second to load it all.
Ruin Nefarious: Fighting in a pointless line is what we do best, sir.
Rei Kuhr: Who needs battlefield innovation when we have pomp and tradition!
Would the British army come back onto the military scene for more later on?
Ruin Nefarious: Most definitely.
During the battle, I enabled voice chat so I could hear what might be going on in the background outside of normal text chat. I heard someone cry out loudly the words “FOR HITLER!” after one of the British shouted out another round of “For the Queen!”
Caine Constantine: I heard someone say over voice “For hitler!”
Ruin Nefarious: !
Ruin Nefarious: What?
Ruin Nefarious: Who?
Instantly, at the same time, two of them blamed the same person who had soured an otherwise valiant battle with the Merczateers a couple hours earlier – Marine soldier Neko Zilz.
Knightblade Fayray: I saw that, was one of the enemy
Reiken Birge: That was Neko.
Intus Infinity: Neko.
I always like to find out what opposing forces think of one another after the dust of the battlefield settles.
Caine Constantine: One more question. What do you think of TFM?
Ruin Nefarious: TFM is actually the Colony of Lamestein.
Ruin Nefarious: We are reconquering it for the Crown.
And why did the British visit their wayward colony at all?
Intus Infinity: They had a temporary uprising. We crushed them
Rei Kuhr: They didn’t drink their tea.
DamionStJames Webb: No, [the problem was] they drank Chai Tea.
DamionStJames Webb: Not Earl Grey.
Thunder Rahja: Bastards.
Caine Constantine: So the new rulers of Prize Delta and the Task Force Marines, which you are calling now the people of the Colony of Lamestein, are the British Empire?
Ruin Nefarious: Exactly.
Rei Kuhr: They will be heavily taxed, as a reward.
Afterwards, I was given a round of salutes from the perhaps twenty men in attendance at this point, and as I bid my goodbyes, they gave one last round of cheers for the king.
loki Cramer: HUZZAH!!!!!!!!
Aelus Janus: FOR COUNTRY, FOR THRONE.
Ruin Nefarious shouts: Fuck representation!
Synth Fhang: HOOOOO FOR THE KING!
Kazuhiro Schnyder: God save the king!
Of final mention should be the man carrying the actual flag of the Ordo Imperialis into battle alongside the “British.”
Krow Ames: Make sure to mention our brave flag boy. Water Halberd.
Krow Ames: He kept the flag alive the entire battle.
To be sure, in the face of machine guns and “metal birds,” the victorious British died many deaths, and for one of them to have survived the whole fight is definitely a worthy mention.
I was headed back to Prize Delta to get the Marines’ response to their defeat at the hands of the British. The first person I tried to talk to was angelneko Magic, who had finally found a gun, but was in no mood to talk and was wearing a very interesting blue tag – “FUCK THE BRITISH.”
Caine Constantine: angelneko, how did the battle go?
angelneko Magic: not now sir
Admiral Roffo continued the conversation though.
Caine Constantine: So how to do you think the battle with the British Empire went?
Mayra Roffo: Very well, considering there numbers.
Mayra Roffo: They out numbered us 4 to 1.
Caine Constantine: Was there an overall strategy in the fight against them?
Mayra Roffo: Seek and destroy.
Caine Constantine: How many TFM were in the base during the fight?
Mayra Roffo: 6 or 7 TFM members
Caine Constantine: Wow, the British had perhaps 30 soldiers?
Mayra Roffo: Close to that.
Caine Constantine: Now I saw them briefly take control of the top level of this base. Did this happen?
Mayra Roffo: We had to clear them off.
Caine Constantine: So you took the base back quickly?
Mayra Roffo: For the most part, yes.
Caine Constantine: Any last thoughts on today’s battle?
Mayra Roffo: Every member did well, that’s a victory in itself.
Caine Constantine: Thank you for your time Admiral.
And so it was finished. The British had ultimately won the day. A spirit of undying loyalty to their King and country had overcome their outdated weapons, and now all that was left was to develop their new “colony.” But would the Marines comply with their wishes? Had they truly felt the sting of defeat?
No…it was not to be. The Task Force Marines might have lost this phase of the battle of Prize Delta, but they were not taking orders from anyone, and were not going to be anyone’s colony. And while the British guns were silent for the nigh – they would be returning in force soon to claim what they believed was rightfully theirs.
Alyx Stoklitsky
Jun 18th, 2008
EVERY E-MILITARY ARTICLE MAKES ME FACEPALM HARDER.
Vegna Fouroux
Jun 18th, 2008
I love these i seriously do.
Nidol Slazar
Jun 18th, 2008
what Alyx said
Eye Korobase
Jun 18th, 2008
When your army is destroy by a force of 30 men with rifles that take 10 seconds to reload and only fire one shot at a time, I think it is time to call it quits.
Rei Kuhr
Jun 18th, 2008
In the end, it was done for fun. Yes, we managed to defeat the TFM with nothing but inaccurate muskets. The TFM bombarding their own spawn repeatedly was a nuisance but not insurmountable. I expected though to see more sportsmanship, instead of being repeatedly spawncamped. Regardless, it was fun.
Stephie
Jun 18th, 2008
Protip: let shit load before you take a picture.
Also LOL E-MILITARY
Sparta Story Teller
Jun 18th, 2008
As a horde of Ordo soldiers and grunts in gasmasks surge over the
hill, Astra pilots screaming over head on their way to the final
battle, I can only imagine the fear in minds of those marines as Jim
and Jared sit in the deepest levels of the base, watching the battle
on monitors. “We had a good run, didn’t we?” “Indeed we did, old
friend… indeed we did…” An explosion rocks the complex, followed
by gunfire, as Merczateers Light Ops commandos breach the gate and
storm through the complex. With Harlequin lying dead on the
battlefield, Nanao’s fighter blown out of the sky by an Astra ace,
Jim and Jared take a drink of whiskey, reach for their service
pistols, salute each other, and two shots are heard by the commandos
right before they kick down the door to the room.
As it is fairly obvious to the educated reader, Thrax didn’t actually finish the story.
Sooo….I decided to do him the curteousy of finishing it for him. Below is my continuation
of Thrax’s little story.
The commandos came into the room expecting to find the two dead bodies of the
Alliance Navy Admirals.
They didn’t expect to see a squad of Spartan Phalanx that had used their teleport
beams to enter the bunker, their Javelin Shotguns now aimed right at the heads of these
two poor Mercz commandos. The shots had been made in order to trick the Mercz into thinking
the room was safe.
Bad idea.
The Phalanx opened fire, cutting the Mercz commandos into pieces, blood spilling
everywhere on the neocrete floor, leaving only a mess of black and red. The Phalanx Enomotarch
in charge of the squad nodded his helmeted head. “Area secure, move out to the hallway
and secure it.” The Phalanx squad nodded their acknowledgements and moved out to the hallway,
covering each other as they searched it for Mercz invaders. Seeing none at the present
moment, they signalled the enomotarch, who escorted the two still astounded AN Admirals
down the halls. Through the walls and ceiling, the shouts and gunfire of the battle for the
AN base could be heard, and while it had primarily been the Mercz and Ordo gaining ground,
it was now the same two groups who were now dying where they stood.
Unknown to the two invading groups, the Alliance Navy had put out a call for
assistance to Sparta on their home planet of New Sparta. Due to the vast distance between
the two planets of the allies, it had taken over a day for the message to Sparta to be
received. It had taken less for the Spartans to mobilize and send their fleet and
accompanying ground and aerospace forces to leave New Sparta and Jump to Mars, where the
ancient warriors began their tactical analysis of the situation, and decided to first
secure the inside of the base, followed by a full repulsion of the Roman and Communist
invaders.
“Where’s the rest of the Spartan forces?” Jim Herbst asked the Phalanx Enom,
who, like all Spartans, didn’t speak much. The Enom turned his helm to look at Jim and
replied, “Enjoying themselves.” Jim raised his eyebrows but didn’t have another chance to
ask any more questions, as he and Jared were pulled once again through the base, the
Phalanx squad assigned to guard them clearing the areas before them. Along the way, they
hooked up with other Alliance personnel who had been fighting the invaders and were
quite relieved to hear that the Spartans had finally arrived. One engineer, Mazer Ludd,
had been hurt badly, there were burns in his stomach where a Plasma Charge from an Ordo
Plasma grenade had hit him. One of the Phalanx attended to his wounds, spraying on a
liquid that bubbled up then formed a tight bandage around the wound, preventing the bleeding
from spreading. Painkillers were then offered, but Mazer shook his head, saying, “Just
give me a gun so I can kill the bastards, painkillers will only dampen my abilities.”
The Phalanx attending him nodded, then handed Mazer a pistol from a nearby armory.
Mazer stood up, eying his two commanders, and nodded to them. “Nice to see you two
are still alive, sirs. Maybe there’s hope yet.” Jared looked at Mazer and nodded back,
“We’ll make sure they regret ever doing this.” The two Phalanx who had been watching their
backs gestured to the Alliance personnel that they should get going, the rest of the
Phalanx were already starting to move out. As one, the group of mingled allies set off to
find more of the invaders.
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A squadron of Ordo Astra Mamba pilots screamed past the Alliance base towers,
looking for any other air targets to shoot down. They had laughed themselves silly when AN
Admiral Nanao Mahfouz was shot down, they only wished they could see his face as he had
gone down, hopefully screaming in terror, whimpering like a baby. In their lust for looking
for enemies on the ground or air, they had neglected to search for enemies from high above in space.
It was that moment that a squadron of Spartan Aegis Heavy Interceptor Aerospace fighters
swooped down right between the Ordo squadron, sending them all into a panic. Were these
new pilots mad? They had nearly collided with every Mamba fighter, just barely escaping
death by a few millimeters. The Ordo pilots turned on their radars and began looking for
these seemingly psychotic Spartan pilots. What the hell was Sparta doing here anyway?
They couldn’t have arrived this quick, such technology was practically impossible.
Whether they were crazy or not didn’t matter to the Aegis Pilots, they simply had
wanted to scatter the Ordo craft to make them easier to kill. The Air Lieutenant in charge
grinned and said into his Helmet mic “Divide and Conquer kids, lets get to work.” With
clicks on the radios signalling their confirmation, the Aegis squadron turned around and
came at the Ordo pilots from all sides. The Ordo pilots, not realizing their radar was
being jammed, didn’t even see the Aegis fighters come screaming in, locking their missiles
on the engines of the Mambas. Flimsy little craft, the Mambas were easily shot down, until
there was one left. This Mamba pilot had managed to evade all the missiles and autocannon
shots directed at it, but as the Spartan saying goes, its easier to run from a fight than
it is to stand and fight. The Aegis pilots formed up into a delta formation and went head
on at the Mamba, whose pilot decided he had had enough, and ejected from his craft. As the
Aegis pilots saw the white parachute, the squadron leader grinned and moved his finger
down to the autocannon control, feathering it lightly, as he sent the pilot to his death,
despite him having done the equivalent of a surrender by ejecting from the Mamba. “That was
for Admiral Nanao,” said the Air Lt, who then ordered his squadron to move to the AN base to
seek out new targets, linking up with another squadron of Aegis along the way.
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Aryte Vesperia, Imperator of the Novus Ordo, folded his arms and looked at
Merczateer leader Lurdan Huczar. “It would appear that Sparta has arrived to save their
little friends.” Lurdan nodded, and brought a mic to his mouth, saying “bring in the
Uriels and all reserve forces.” That done, he replaced the mic in its pocket, and looked
at Aryte. “You know what this means don’t you? Sparta has the technology to disrupt and
maybe even stop us. They don’t have our numbers, but you’ve seen what they can do. That
planet, Cordova….” Aryte nodded. “I heard. They burned the whole planet, just because
it harbored a few Ordo personnel and refused to give them up.” Lurdan shook his head,
murmuring, “Madness…..absolute madness.”
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On board the SNS Wrath of Sparta, Flagship of the entire Spartan Navy and its Kings
personal command ship, King Bruno Ziskey overlooked the tactical overlay of the planet,
seeing where the opposing forces currently were. He waved his arm over the
holographic planet, and zoomed it out to see the placements of the Spartan Navy spaceships,
all surrounding the planet at tactical locations, placed precisely to do their Kings’
bidding. An alarm sounded, and the hologram changed to show another fleet arriving to
challenge the intruders. Bruno Ziskey grinned and chuckled, “Why if it isn’t my old friends
….the SLSN.” Bruno waved his hands over the hologram again, and selected a small battle
group of destroyers and frigates to handle these pests. The ships, receiving their command,
moved to intercept the SLSN fleet, readying their Ion Torpedo launchers, Turret guns,
broadside cannons, and other weapons that could only be imagined in the mind of a Spartan.
Their shields raised, the ships flanked the puny fleet and began bombarding them, tearing
apart their ships piece by piece.
The SLSN fleet was by no means unarmed, of course. They launched their own weapons,
while making tactical maneuvers to evade the Spartan ships wrath. Their weapons however
failed to do much to the Spartans, as the blue flicker of the Spartan Shields reflected
every kinetic weapon thrown at them. There were a few dsestroyers in the SLSN fleet however,
armed with Plasma Cannons, that aimed their mighty weapons at the Spartan battle group and
opened fire, piercing their shields and causing damage to the mighty ships. One Spartan
frigate ended up with a hole in its bow, and the crew was forced to abandon their ship
via teleport rings installed in the ships. The crew was transported to a Lycurgus-Class
Destroyer, where they quickly took up new positions in the ship to aid with the fighting.
Despite the best efforts of the SLSN however, the Spartans were able to annihalate
the puny fleet, with only one loss and one severely damaged ship. Not bad, but the Nauarchos
Cloud Shackle, commander of the Spartan Navy, would likely be assigning this battle group
extra battle practice when this war was over.
Bruno Ziskey turned his attention back to the main battle, as the battle group
reinserted itself into the Navy ships surrounding Mars. Bruno waved his hands over the
hologram again, this time zooming in on the assaulted Alliance base. He saw that the foolish
infantry of the invaders had simply surrounded the base, not bothering to put any anti-space
weaponry in place. Perhaps they had none, but this was of little concern to King Bruno, who
ordered the Orbital Bombardment ships to commence their part of the defense of the Alliance.
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Anthony Lehane looked up from a field report handed to him recently from a Mercz
Grunt and wondered why his hairs were pricking up suddenly. The air suddenly seemed thick,
charged with something. Anthony didn’t recall it being stormy today, cloudy yes, but not
storming. As he stepped out of the quickly slapped together command base, he saw points of
red light in the sky, slowly making themselves larger. As he started to comprehend what he
was seeing, his eyes widened, and the first tendtrils of fear crept into his stomach, as he
mouthed, “My God….what have we done?” It was shortly after that the Merczateer and Ordo
ground forces surrounding the base were hit by great bolts of red beams of light, that hit
the ground and created red circles of plasma charges that spread, melting everything in
their path, guns reduced to liquid, tanks, jeeps, all burned to a crisp, and all the
infantry were melted, quite slowly. If anyone were to have looked close at these burning
invaders, they might have felt a sense of pity for these poor souls who were being sent to
hell while already being in it.
From the Alliance base, the destruction could be seen, as the red beams of light
came uncomfortably close to, but not touching, the installation. As the beams annihalated
the invaders, Jim Herbst put his binoculars down and said, “I can’t watch this anymore.
Even if the Mercz and Ordo were going to kill us, the destruction of living people like
this….I just can’t bear it.” Mazer took the binoculars and watched the Orbital
Bombardment. “Thing is, Jim,” Mazer said, “These bastards deserve it, more than anyone
else.” The Admiral nodded, and sadly replied, “But does it have to be so many? Why
couldn’t the Spartans have captured some of them, at least to interrogate?” The
Phalanx Enom spoke up, the three Alliance personnel having forgotten that the silent
Spartans were there, saying, “Because they are rats, nothing more than dirt. They are
inferior to the rest of us, and do not deserve to live. The King has made it clear that he
does not want any survivors left, it would only allow them to continue to multiply, forcing
us to fight them again and again. Mind you, we all love to fight, but theres only so much
dirt we can stand.” The Phalanx Enomotarch, having said the closest thing to a speech the
Alliance men had heard so far from any Spartan, stepped back to survey the area again,
serving his King the only way he knew how.
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Despite the immense Orbital Bombardment from Sparta’s spaceships, a number of
Mercz and Ordo had survived the initial bombardment. This included a number of Ordo
Terra and Astra, as well as the Uriels called out by Lurdan. Scattered at first by the
initial plasma barrage, the two groups slowly found each other, as Spartan Phalanx began
to arrive by Assault Pods, delivered from space-based Troop Carriers, while the higher
ranked Spartans arrived in the Alliance base via Teleport Rings. As the Phalanx commenced
the securing of the base and surrounding area, the Sparta Aerospace strikecraft patrolled
the skies, searching for these lost enemy units, hungry for a kill or two. The Russian and
Roman units grouped together in an underground bunker that had been underneath an Alliance
city before the Ordo Astra Bombers came in and levelled it. As it was, the two groups knew
they didnt have much time to escape the same fate of their brethren.
TO BE CONTINUED!!
anon
Jun 18th, 2008
oh god the rage
i love these british guys more and more
A Certain Ordo Officer.
Jun 18th, 2008
To the Sparta Story Teller,
Firstly:Get your own damn story page and not hog our glory >:O
Secondly: we dont even use Mamba’s anymore.
Thirdly: Spartan’s Couldn’t even shoot their own way out of a paper bag.
And lastly, Stop sleeping in the AN’s bed, Alliances is one thing but what your doing is brownnosing *shakes head* We enjoy a good fight with the AN from time to time but even they have to be getting bored of your stories.
So quit making up things and face on the field of battle,Sparta >:D
Caine Constantine
Jun 18th, 2008
While I appreciate the protip, sometimes you cannot wait for things to load because if you do the subject, or you yourself, will be killed. A bad picture is better than a staged picture or no picture at all.
Thank you,
Caine
A British rifleman
Jun 18th, 2008
Hahaha, glad to see this article posted. Awesome report.
Kytec ... of Britan
Jun 18th, 2008
The reload on our muskets was not the most challenging part. If fired while moving the shots fly off in all directions, if fired too soon after reloading the shots fly in all directions, if fired from a standstill after about 5 seconds of idleness the shots still arc so unless you judge distance appropriately they simply fall short, if you stand too close they don’t hit at all.
The challenges of using inferior dated weaponry against fully automatic guns and aircraft was great, but we pressed forwards.
God’s will is Death and Taxes, We bring both.
Steve319 cao
Jun 19th, 2008
Guys how the fuck did we get from what looked like an entertaining distraction to listening to ziskeys little band of cult members who drank the cool aide we all know hes a retard we all those who follow him are but are the spartans seriously that desperate for publicity that they attempt to hijack an entertaining story about a group of friends who just felt the need to grab a musket and shoot something you’ve reached new lows gentalmen (as predicted Bruno will no doubt respond with a dig at my spelling or some other crap or get one of his little muts to do it for him well done herald this is the most ive laughed in ages
Mikael Khalamov
Jun 19th, 2008
Lol.
anon
Jun 19th, 2008
0/5 on aspect ratio, by the way. lern2crop.
Loki Cramer
Jun 19th, 2008
AMAZING MORE MORE MORE
Matti Deigan
Jun 19th, 2008
Oh my god I lolled.
So that’s where all that supply is going to.
Sergeant Manners
Jun 19th, 2008
So you had to write a Spartan story to act like you can win from time to time? A masterpiece of fiction, there, good sah.
Zrazor Rozenstrauch
Jun 19th, 2008
This musket shit was funnier a couple months ago when Vanguard did it to Ordo with a Civil War theme.
D:
Kristian Kit
Jun 20th, 2008
That spartan story has been posted before and again it has nothing to do with this article but who cares. Well it made me laugh. Everybody should have dreams i guess.
Vegna Fouroux
Jun 20th, 2008
well Sparta are getting some kickass new ship I’ve seen them
so it’s not entirely fiction
Mikael Khalamov
Jun 20th, 2008
Let’s not have this comment section turn into a debate/flamewar over some story? Please? It would make me lose even more respect for humanity.
Ethan Schuman
Jun 23rd, 2008
The Spartan storyteller had an amusing take on things, however, it is far from realistic.
Firstly, I wrote the little story about Mercz and Ordo owning the hell out of AN (actually, more like a prophecy if you consider the level of pain we inflicted on Dorien in our last combined assault.
Secondly, that story, while entertaining… is far from believable, as everyone knows that Bruno pisses his pants and screams every time he’s up against a superior force (be it in armaments, training, numbers, or all of the above). A realistic version of the the story would have involved a few Mercz redirecting from Dorien into the Spartan base, Bruno screaming at them to attack only one person at a time as most of the Spartans are off somewhere else. Also, the Spartans in this realistic story would not be off fighting for their king against other militaries… they’d be defecting out left and right, just as they are now.
Bruno Ziskey
Jun 23rd, 2008
Ethan, Ethan..typical of Mercz you try to bring us down in writing such as here since you cannot fight us fairly on the battlefield. How about you actually just admit you can’t defeat us one on one instead of emo whining about how we actually want fair fights. Is it so bad to have one on one odds? But oh no, that would mean you wouldnt be able to have a chance in hell of winning…and of course, you’re obsessed with “Winning” Second Life, as if you could defeat every Boss Group around and then win the game with “THANKS FOR PLAYING” shown at the end. *Golf Claps* Good for you. You’ve won the game of Stupidity, by draining the fun out of fighting by throwing every person you have at the enemy and drowning them in people, as if that could be fun for the other guy. You might as well face up to it, Mercz are NOT interested in having fun for all sides. Your equipment lags, your bullets use ApplyImpulse (shame shame) you constantly find new ways to bend the rules until you almost break it but not quite. Your new av flying aircraft proves this point.
Now if it was set to something like a fuel count to make it more fair, NOT have a shotgun spread like it does, and IF it even had an ammo count (at this point most Mercz are pulling out their wrist cutters to end the pain), it MIGHT be considered fair. But no, you just can’t stop trying to gain every single advantage no matter what. Hell, our seeker missiles are actually just rockets with flak ability, they dont even turn! Yet, despite the fact that if you actually MANEUVERED (scary word I know, as you tend to use your aircrft more like turrets than real aircraft) you’d be able to escape it, as we have done in testing. As it is, you broke the agreement we had that if you didnt swarm we wouldnt use our seekers. Nice job at once again proving you can’t handle your own problems and instead emo whine on places like the Herald to reassure yourself that you’re NOT a failure. It’s sad how you operate, which is why Sparta does not seek to do that. Hell, our own propaganda paper, the Weekly Wisdom, isn’t even forced on you guys, versus the pathetic attempt you made most recently by sending it to Spartans individually. The WW is available in the hub, and you dont have to get it if you go in. It’s totally your choice whether you want to read it or not. Face it, you’ve lost the battle on the field, and now you’re trying to “win” by spreading emo drama within our ranks. Sad thing is, the Spartans who stay, who read your lies and recognize them as such, are the ones who are worth keeping, who are like me and want to stay out of any emo drama you’re trying. Go do that to the AN or something. I don’t fear you, Sparta doesn’t fear you.
Bruno Ziskey
King of Sparta
Steve319 cao
Jun 24th, 2008
Now believe it or not im not trying to start a debate here or insult the Spartan king for a change but I have some questions on his last post if he wouldn’t mind taking the time to answer them?
1″You’ve won the game of Stupidity, by draining the fun out of fighting by throwing every person you have at the enemy”
Does that actually mean that if the Spartans had the Mercz numbers the wouldn’t attempt to do the same thing after all ive seen the videos of the combined assaults AN were far from defenseless
2″Your equipment lags, your bullets use ApplyImpulse (shame shame) you constantly find new ways to bend the rules until you almost break it but not quite. Your new av flying aircraft proves this point”
I for one would like the know what he means by this firstly there equipment lags lets face it linden labs being what it is any sim will lag to death if you have enough people shooting pixel bullets at each other so I fail to see how a Mercz AK can Lag anymore than a Spartan pulse rifle perhaps Bruno would like to shed some light on this.
And secondly there AV flying aircraft witch is different how exactly from the Spartan aircraft or the 39th mech for example
3Hell, our own propaganda paper, the Weekly Wisdom, isn’t even forced on you guys
I would at this time invite readers to actually go to the Spartan base and acquire an article of wisdom in it you will find that there is an entire section not only devoted to belittling mercz/ordo but also specifically focusing on Ethan Schuman to the untrained eye it kind of appears Bruno’s doing exactly what he accuses Ethan of doing
Again im not trying to judge or start trouble but I feel if your going to go public and start bitching about someone you should have something to back it up with that said he Bruno may have proof of what he says but I somehow doubt it.
I suspect instead these comments are based on an intense dislike of Ethan and the Mercz with no substance whatsoever.
Steve319 cao
Ethan Schuman
Jun 24th, 2008
I literally fell out of my chair laughing at that post. You want fair fights? Lurdan and I came into your sim by ourselves, and there were at least ten of you. We fought for a few minutes before you banned us, claiming “Don’t attack while we’re training!” Then again, that screen shot you so kindly provided us of you molesting one of your plebes may explain why you wanted us out so badly. Let’s think about this, Bruno. You flaunt the supposed strength of your group while screaming that we fight you one on one, keeping your agent limit to 20 so as to prevent your precious soldiers that you have so much faith in from being overrun by armies who have actually worked to have those greater numbers. I laugh so hard every time you whine about “fighting fair” and “one on one” engagements. Leonidas didn’t moan and complain when a horde of Persians came knocking at his back door. Real Spartans were fierce, peerless, ruthless fighters. You, on the other hand, sit and cry every time someone kicks your ass. You’re no Greek, you’re a goddamned Frenchman.
You want to talk technology? Allow me to kick you around on a topic you have no ground to stand on. Our Uriels fire two rounds at a time. Two. Ammo count? Last I checked, Mercz were the ONLY army to use any sort of extensive ammo limiting system. Let’s talk about your Doru (or whatever it’s called) now. It is here where the hypocrisy of Bruno truly shines. Not only does the Doru rez more rounds per volley than the Uriel, it has absolutely no form of ammo limitation whatsoever. Of course, then again, considering that you all directly ripped off the freebie Talon scripts so badly that script errors from the original code still manifest, I doubt you have anywhere near the brain power needed to make something of your own. As for your “flak” missiles, all they are are another rip off. Take something that Ordo makes use of, expand the sensor area and blast radius exponentialy, and proclaim yourself amazing weapon scripters. Right. As for our gear lagging and our Uriel being an av flier? You should stop using secondhand crap and make your own equipment before even trying to engage on that field. The attachment based Uriel is not an av flight tool. Just get agent info on the pilot and you’ll see he isn’t flying. Oh wait, that’s right, Spartans lack the ability to generate anything of their own. Don’t worry, Bruno. I’ll toss you a bone and write a detector for your helpless ass. As far as lag with aircraft goes, I’ll do two things. The first is to inform you that our new Uriels generate MUCH less lag than standard aircraft using this new method. The second thing I’ll do, is point at your AD, and go “Lawl, Talon scripts.” As for us using ApplyImpulse in our ammo, I’d be interested to know how you can make that claim considering you’ve never looked inside our ammo code before, and wouldn’t know what did what even if you had.
Let’s talk about the Spartans who are staying. Or actually, let’s talk about the ones that are leaving, just like I told you they would. I bet losing Jordi had to hurt. I’m sure you’ll enjoy picking up the slack, if you can. Don’t worry, though. It’s not like you’ll have an army to host much longer. We’ll be scooping up Nana later this week, and we’ve been working on Tracy too. You might wonder why I’m saying this out loud, but there isn’t a thing you can do about it besides sit there and cry as we rip your army apart, one fed up soldier at a time. You might think you don’t fear me, Bruno. And perhaps throwing me up on a ban list (which is just evidence of said fear) and sticking your fingers in your ears while yelling “LALALALA I’M KING BRUNO AND I AM THE BEST! SPARTA RULES YOU!” will be enough to keep me from sneaking into your sim and stabbing you while you rape your Plebes. However, the amount of damage I’m already doing to your group from the outside is more than enough of a consolation for me. As for Sparta? Of course they don’t fear me. They know I’m right, and that you will be the death of the group. So, they either use me to help them jump ship, or make friends and wait for the day you throw yet another temper tantrum, punch a column, and collapse your base on top of you.
The Merczateers have three sims, one of which is a full Class 5. You have a full Class 5 (if I’m informed correctly) in which you keep a 20 person limit, which is less than half of what that sim is capable of handling in full out combat. The Merczateers develop their weapons entirely in house, which include some of the nicest models anywhere on the grid. You use ripoff scripts of Raideur’s stuff thrown in shitty builds that a kindergartener with a pile of Legos could put to shame. The Merczateers have a constantly evolving and developing air force that makes use of some of the most advanced and lethal military technology available. You have a jumbled mess of poorly textured colored plywood prims that contain unmodded Talon scripts taken right out of the box. The Merczateers are one of, if not the, largest military group in SL. You can’t even keep twenty of your own people in sim at a time to worry about the comical agent limit you have in place. Merczateers routinely engage in battles where they are outnumbered and outgunned, and still manage to win a victory. You scream and ban whenever someone shows up in your sim with something you’re mad you don’t have, be it weapons, numbers, skill, class, or all of the above and more.
In conclusion, Bruno, you are a pussy, and you are completely out of your league. You sit and ramble like you matter in some way or another, when in reality we could break your group in a week if we wanted to. You remind me almost exactly of Steve319 Cao back when he led the SLSN and they were allied with AN. Don’t believe me? We’ll raise a combat blockade on you so fast you won’t have an army left to look at when your head stops spinning. Stick to the insults you’ve had prepared for you by the Alliance Navy and other people who’ve actually managed to accomplish things during their time. Rip off what works, it’s what you do best. Go ahead and call us “emo” and “communists” and “children”. We’ll just continue to call you what you’ve proven yourself to be: a coward, a crybaby, a chicken shit, and an inept, arrogant moron of a leader who is on his way out the door, and will take his army with him if he’s not careful.
Don’t get me wrong. Sparta has some wonderful people in it. The only thing that has to happen for Sparta to break out and become a powerful force is for someone to step up and kick their hate seething wannabe of a leader into a pit like Sera Otoro should have done ages ago.
Eye Korobase
Jun 24th, 2008
Bruno, there is not one smart way to come back when Ethan Schuman rips you a new one like he just did, there is NOTHING you can fire back to insult or hurt the merczs or anyother military after his post.
Bruno Ziskey
Jun 24th, 2008
“directly ripped off the freebie Talon scripts so badly that script errors from the original code still manifest”
Yeah and guess who scripted your original Uriel? Oh that’s right…the same guy who scripted to Talon and used the same scripts from that Talon in your Uriel. Tsk tsk Ethan. Also, we dont use the Talon scripts anymore, Luci Himmel scripted entirely new ones that we now use. Also, she was the one who you Tped there, along with Tracy, and both of them said your aircraft was illegal, yet you said they said it was legal. Do try to get your facts straight.
“I laugh so hard every time you whine about “fighting fair” and “one on one” engagements. Leonidas didn’t moan and complain when a horde of Persians came knocking at his back door. Real Spartans were fierce, peerless, ruthless fighters.”
So…what’s wrong with having fair fights? You afraid to have them? What, you don’t think (or know, as the truth is) that we’re better than you tactics and training wise, so instead you say to yourself “LAWL I’LL OVERRUN THEM WITH PEOPLE SO THEY CANT EVEN MOVE OR FIRE” which would mean we’d have about….little to no chance to actually defend our base. You said in your “Crimson Star” that pathetic attempt to copy the Weekly Widsom that you supported “fair and fun fights.” The above quote of you shows you don’t actually like fair fights, since you already know you’ll lose if you actually try to go up against larger odds, which shows how little faith you have in your people, your training, and your equipment.
Also, the real Sparta had its entire population of citizens as soldiers, and if you actually did that thing called “research” which means actually checking facts, you’d find that Greeks actually found fair fights to be more honorable. They wouldn’t even use arrows since they saw them as cowards weapons. Leonidas only faced the huge odds because he HAD to or his home would be destroyed. He was NOT in a GAME where BOTH sides can have fun if they fight one on one and actually stay within rules, which YOU broke multiple times. That’s the point of games, to have fun. You don’t want to play with us, go ahead. I’ll put it as simply as I can: we don’t need you to exist. We have other enemies we can fight, and we always will.
“Take something that Ordo makes use of, expand the sensor area and blast radius exponentialy, and proclaim yourself amazing weapon scripters. Right”
I can believe Ordo made something like that, but I don’t have a copy of one. Luci just modded a seeker missile to explode but not turn. That’s it. No big “ripoff” just a simple mod. Next stupidity please:
“The attachment based Uriel is not an av flight tool. Just get agent info on the pilot and you’ll see he isn’t flying.”
Perhaps, but then it counts as a jump enhancer, which you always bitch and moan about… or what is it then? Can’t be a definable “aircraft” like in the current STABLE…oh wait thats right….I was recently told you ADDED A CLAUSE TO STABLE saying that the new Uriel type was legal. Now last time I checked, STABLE was regulated by ALL the groups who follow it. I don’t recall being told you have overruling power to add such a clause. Perhaps you can enlighten me?
“You have a full Class 5 (if I’m informed correctly) in which you keep a 20 person limit, which is less than half of what that sim is capable of handling in full out combat.”
Tell me then, how every Spartan, during your 15 member attack on our base a few weeks ago, was barely able to move in our sim, and I have one of the best computers around? Mayhap you’re bullshitting again as you always do about your weapons.
“You use ripoff scripts of Raideur’s stuff”
Now THIS made me laugh my ass off. Actually, 5 months ago we remade our weapon scripts from scratch, starting from a simple popgun script and working our way up from there. Helps to actually check your facts…something I seem to keep repeating, as you do seem to NOT do it.
“The Merczateers have a constantly evolving and developing air force that makes use of some of the most advanced and lethal military technology available.”
And despite all that “adcanced technology” you feel the need to attack 1 of our aircraft with 3 uriels…..nice going, looks like you still feel the need to make up for your failures. It’s called aiming Mr. Shotgun Aircraft, try it some time.
“We’ll raise a combat blockade on you so fast you won’t have an army left to look at when your head stops spinning.”
You already tried that with the AN and it didn’t work. Again, you seem to think that Sparta NEEDS you around to survive….simply put, we don’t. You’re laggy, inefficient, petty, drama-obsessed (no seriously, I find it hard to believe you’re an adult with all the crap you keep saying, you just don’t know when to shutup), and even Ordo, you’re most powerful ally, doesn’t really like you, and even controls Mercz.
Allow me to elaborate: Some weeks ago, Aryte Vesperia, the “Imperator” of the Ordo, insulted Phillip Hultcrantz of the Mercz AD. Phillip threatened to walk out of Mercz to the AN. Did Aryte get told off by Lurdan or Anthony for insulting an ally? Nope. They had to bribe Phillip to keep him. You can bet that if an ally came to our base and insulted one of my people, I’d demand an apology on the spot. You can’t be allies and insult each other like that, it’s dishonorable, and honor is something you keep laughing that.
Another thing which I don’t understand: you lack of wanting honor in combat. Remember the old days, before huge massed numbers were used in combat, when military groups were still new? Massed number attacks may only have been used by the AN, but besides that were less laggy. Now AN and our other allies can do as they wish, but Sparta refuses to use mass troops tactics. It’s even stated in our ROE to not use those tactics. Simply put, we don’t want to turn into you. Ever. That’s also why I recently issued less spammy weapons to my people. I don’t want Sparta to become a part of the “oh he has spammy weapons lets make more spammy weapons” group. We won’t do it. It’s not fair, causes lag, and takes away from our need to aim properly, which denies any purpose to training if all you’re going to do is throw a wall of bullets at your enemies. It’s not fair to them.
Also, please, please don’t say your scripts are the best. Jeremy Duport has time and again, proven Mercz weaponry to be the most inefficient weaponry on the Grid. Next time I find the log of the chat he had with you after your “Operation” on Dorien (which I laugh at….your attack didn’t last nearly as long as Operation Crucifix”) in which he proves you wrong on every point…yet you ignore him, going on to other points which he again proves you wrong. Let’s face it Ethan: Mercz are only so powerful due to numbers. You didn’t even have an AN until Jeremy came to you, scripted for you, saw your stupidity and rape of his scripts, and left, coming back to AN in the end. Seeing as he’s ranked as one of the top scriptors in SL itself and has been in Mercz and Ordo, it’s hard to imagine him making this stuff up.
See Ethan, here’s where we differ the most: You don’t care about your enemies chances of having fun or even fairly defending. You just want to win. That’s all. Sparta acknowledges that this is a game, and to be a game, one must have fun. You don’t want to play, so be it. People like Luci Himmel know what I am talking about. She’s not one of your brainless grunts who believes anything you tell her. She’ll ask questions, and she has every right to. I won’t give my Spartans orders like “shoot that guy in safe land” or something like that, as I have seen Ordo, Mercz, and MC do many times. We don’t want that for ourselves, we don’t want to follow the path you have. We’re taking the higher road of Morality. In the end, my conscience will be clear. Will yours?
Bruno Ziskey
King of Sparta
Bruno Ziskey
Jun 24th, 2008
Oh sorry steve, I passed yours over by mistake, I thought it was some random scribbling from a 12 year old who had somehow found his way onto this site. Allow me to AGAIN prove you wrong on every point you make, YOU, the guy who can’t even keep a single group he makes running for more than a few months and STILL thinks he can make it.
“Does that actually mean that if the Spartans had the Mercz numbers the wouldn’t attempt to do the same thing after all ive seen the videos of the combined assaults AN were far from defenseless”
No, see my above correcting of Ethan. Our own ROE forbids it, even if our allies use it. We travel a different path.
“for one would like the know what he means by this firstly there equipment lags lets face it linden labs being what it is any sim will lag to death if you have enough people shooting pixel bullets at each other so I fail to see how a Mercz AK can Lag anymore than a Spartan pulse rifle perhaps Bruno would like to shed some light on this.”
We’ve had Sparta playing wargames with 8 people on each side, in our current sim, and had a little lag, but not too much. Six mercz come in and you start to lag walk (aka walking two steps back, freezing and being pulled back three steps, and bullets start to move more slowly. I think that proves my point.
“And secondly there AV flying aircraft witch is different how exactly from the Spartan aircraft or the 39th mech for example”
Their new uriel is worn, and has NO place to sit that holds the flight scripts; it’s in the attachment. This can only be defined as a possible jump enhancer that has a more controlled aircraft feel to it, much like Vanguards, Rocket Packs which send them across the sim in a single blast, but more controlled and able to turn and do everything normal aircraft can do. 39th flight mechs use a few prims set to alpha that have the flight scripts on them, and that won’t change, just like Sparta won’t be using aircraft that you don’t sit down on to fly.
“I would at this time invite readers to actually go to the Spartan base and acquire an article of wisdom in it you will find that there is an entire section not only devoted to belittling mercz/ordo but also specifically focusing on Ethan Schuman to the untrained eye it kind of appears Bruno’s doing exactly what he accuses Ethan of doing”
Yeah I make fun of him…and you..and ordo…and CSL…basically anyone who does something stupid. However, I also report on matters within our own allies like new members, technologies, etc as well as give healthy food reports and new exercises (which nobody outside of the AI seems to understand, since they don’t do exercise…they think that sitting on their computer all day and shoveling food in their mouths builds up their biceps…) However, don’t think that our enemies don’t make fun of Sparta and our allies. We know they do. It’s inevitable in a GAME like this. I don’t mind it since it doesn’t directly affect me. Now if some enemy member found me in RL and tried to threaten me, then I’d start to get pissed. Until that impossibility occurs, I simply don’t care about what my enemies think of me personally. I don’t need them to feel special. I know I’m different by the very fact that I get told that I act differently from other SL military leaders.
“I suspect instead these comments are based on an intense dislike of Ethan and the Mercz with no substance whatsoever.”
How about you start remembering the days when you were allies with the AN steve, and had Mercz swarming over you. I don’t think you were thinking “wow I love being assrape swarmed by mercz, this is amazing!” No, I think you were cursing the very Mercz who set foot on your land. Now eventually you began to crack and gave into the Mercz, something Sparta will never do. As I said, Sparta is beginning a New Standard, a form of honorable, fair and fun combat that doesn’t require either side to swarm without looking like cowards. You don’t need massive numbers to win, just tactics, good training, and top notch equipment. Stop counting those on your fingers steve, you never had any of those after you left the alliance with the AN.
Bruno Ziskey
King of Sparta
Bruno Ziskey
Jun 24th, 2008
Also, note on the message I gave to Ethan” You never had an AD until Jeremy came along, at least not a proper one that worked.
Steve319
Jun 24th, 2008
“saying, you just don’t know when to shutup), and even Ordo, you’re most powerful ally, doesn’t really like you, and even controls Mercz”
Even if this is true which I severely doubt how exactly is this different from the AN Sparta relationship I loled at this particular little bit of Bruno’s rant.
Ethan Schuman
Jun 24th, 2008
Oh, happy day! You were stupid enough to respond and set yourself up for Round Two of a good old fashioned mudhole stomping. Point by point breakdown of your complete failure of logic seemed to work well the first time, so I’ll go on ahead and use the same formula.
Since you do so enjoy telling me to check my facts, I’ll take this opportunity to point out more of your idiotic hypocrisy early on. Jeremy Duport did script our Uriels, the initial versions of them. However, while Jeremy did do a fair amount of work on the Talon, most of his contributions were in the weapons department. The Talon flight core is a modified variant of the NOI Mamba, which Avil was able to snag when he was asked by them to write an authentication script. That’s right, your Dorus are nothing more than modified Ordo Mambas in a new shell. As for your “entirely new scripts”, would you care to elaborate on why your aircraft still generate the EXACT same runtime errors as the freebie Talon, down to exact syntax? Seriously, Bruno, if you’re going to lie, you might as well make some effort to convince people of it. I do have to thank you for revealing your scripter, however. We’ll take extra delight in taking her from you too. I also have to applaud you for your little “ZOMFG Uriels spin rapidly on their X Axis and thus are invulnerable!” theory. You have not only shown that you have ZERO understanding about the workings of physics and the capabilities of LSL, but you have also demonstrated a level of stupidity I didn’t actually think was possible, brought on by blind hatred and jealousy of something far greater and more wonderful than a simpleton like you can ever hope to achieve.
Fair fights? You want to talk about fair? I -SUCK- at combat, and I make no arguments to the contrary. But even I can kick the everliving shit out of your so called “elite” troops when outnumbered five to one, and have done so on numerous occasions. You might claim you believe in fair or honorable combat, but the fact of the matter is is that four Merczateers can easily take down 16 Spartans. “Beating us on the battlefield?” Sending in more numbers just adds to the hilarity. If you call getting held to your spawns by a group of grunts half the size of your defense force using only pistols and combat knives until you scream and ban them victory, then holy shit, you all must be some legendary army that not only has never lost, but is incapable of losing. Whether it be one grunt or a hundred, you can always count on a grunt to kick the ever living shit out of any Spartan he sees, no matter how badly he’s outnumbered. If you weren’t such a coward that you make up reasons to ban the majority of Mercz when you can’t find a legitimate one, you’d see this, and you’d see it quite often. Besides, part of keeping an army combat capable is making sure the troops all get active battle time. When you run a military as successful as the Merczateers and get yourself over 150 members, you’ll see that too. Oh wait… you’re never going to reach that point, because you fail completely as a leader and more of your men desert you by the day. You only have yourself to thank for that, by screaming “SPARTA IS MINE WE ARE GREAT! I CREATED IT AND IT BELONGS TO ME!” You ignorant ass. You are jack shit to Sparta. Sparta, just like every other military group, belongs to the rank and file who sacrifice and toil daily to advance the group. What do you do for Sparta besides pay part of the land fee and sit around jerking off to pictures of naked Greek men rolling around in olive oil? You serve as an inept, incompetent figurehead that only hampers the progress of the group you claim to love. Y HULLO THAR SHADOW KEEGAN 2.0! Actually, I take that back. Shadow tried his best, and he had the selfless foresight to step aside when he had become a liability to the group. Aryte took his place, and look what they’ve become in two years. It’s so sad to think that Sparta could be as great as the Ordo if only they didn’t have the SL version of GWB at their helm. By the way, just as a point of contention, the Crimson Star and other military newsletters have been in regular production since before the founding of Sparta. For someone who leads a military that uses 90% ripoff/freebie technology and at one point in time had their armor built by another military, you are in no position to cry copycat.
We repeatedly break the rules of combat, hmm? Well, one of the rules of combat in Pacific Breeze is that you can’t kill Bruno and humiliate him (true story), so yes, we do break that rule quite often, and proudly admit to it. Regarding the combat blockade we’re going to raise on you (and yes, after discussion amongst numerous groups we’ve decided to go ahead), you actually forced our hand on it. We’d much rather come in and kick the shit out of you on an hourly basis, but against a military led by a screaming baby in a diaper and a Burger King crown who bans entire armies every time he gets shot… well, there’s not really much maneuvering room there. So oh well. Believe what you like about the effects of the blockade on the AN. The AN are a larger, more dedicated, professional, disciplined, and regimented outfit than any group under your command can ever hope to be, and a six month long blockade of them still did heavy damage to their morale, as well as their combat readiness. That’s part of the reason why we kick their asses so easily now. They spent half a year stagnating while fighting small groups (when they had anyone to fight) and having sex with subordinates/four year old relatives, while the Iron Symphony researched, developed, trained, and hardened themselves. Now AN is stuck playing catchup. If a blockade can do that to them, a group already unhappy with the conduct of their leader will crack and fracture very quickly. Vanguard’s shrinking group numbers and increasing Merczateer/Ordo defections are perfect examples of this.
More technology time! A “simple mod to a seeking missile so it doesn’t turn.” Ehl, oh, ehl. So pathetic you can’t even script a basic proximity rocket up on your own, you have to resort to hacking apart other peoples’ code? Just more proof that Sparta couldn’t exist without handouts from other groups. That’s actually kind of catchy… “Join Sparta, the welfare military! Led by Foodstamp King Bruno Ziskey!” Iron Symphony has been using flak munitions for MONTHS now. Pioneered by Raideur, and put into the hands of infantry by Ordo, I’m surprised it actually took you this long to rip off the idea. Oh well. I guess once again I have overestimated the dismal depths of the intellect of “ME BRUNO! ME SMASH! YOU NO SHOOT, I BAN YOU! WE ARE WIN! HAIL SPARTA! *molests a Plebe*”.
I added a clause to STABLE to get our new Uriels legal? Wow, I was wrong. THIS is the funniest part of your post. Before I back up in time to show you how stupid you really are, I’ll remind you once more to subscribe to your own train of thought and check your facts. I’ve been an attending member of the new STABLE talks, and have been participating in them actively (I’ll also note that your face has been questionably absent. Must be quite a busy life raping recruits, constantly waiting on guard to ban anyone who outclasses you, and screaming to everyone in range about how awesome your group is. You and Christoph Naumova should really get together, you’ve got a lot of things in common.) Had you been present at the STABLE talks you so vocally champion, you’d know that not only were the attachment Uriels discussed, I outright TOLD everyone there about them ages before we began work on them. No one had a problem with them at the time, and seeing as the attachment aircraft exhibit the EXACT same movement and flight characteristics of a normal aircraft with less than a third of the lag, you have absolutely no real argument against them. You are just pissed off that Mercz has a new weapon you lack the ability to duplicate, and you’re throwing another one of your piss fit temper tantrums because of it, as is so characteristic of you. By the way, if you’re pissed about the Uriels, then I can’t wait to see the look on your face when the other weapons I specifically mentioned at STABLE and was given approval for come online. L$100 says your face turns redder than that red AN knockoff lego block armor of yours when you see what else we’re capable of.
How did we manage to lag your sim with only a few people weeks ago? Well the answer to that is quite simple… a few weeks ago, you were still in Gliding, a Class 1 void sim, which are ALL known to lag in combat, as they weren’t designed for it. So no, your top of the line computer wouldn’t help you. Don’t scream about us generating lag when you were the one stupid enough to sit in a sim not designed for it for months on end. Once again, chalk another supposed issue up to the dimwitted diaper waist who fancies himself a king, with a baby rattle for a royal scepter.
Let’s move on to your claim of us attacking one Spartan aircraft with three Uriels. Your post is beginning to get somewhat disorganized at this point, I can only assume it’s because you’re having a hard time formulating an attempt at a well-written response as you sit and shake at your monitor behind tears of anger, outraged that some insolent prick dare question the word of the mighty Bruno Ziskey! Anyways, while your claim is doubtful as one Uriel can easily down three Dorus, not the other way around, I’ll humor it for a moment. Dorus are now equipped with 20m radius proximity missiles. Those are a pain to deal with. Perhaps the three pilots in question decided to make use of their training. Flying in formation, a wing leader with two wingmen drew the single Doru out into a vulnerable situation, then made use of their superior maneuverability and spreadfire cannons (which still, no matter how much you may cry, only rez two rounds per volley) to neutralize the threat. It’s organized flying, teamwork, and co-operation to accomplish an objective. That sort of tactic requires heavy training and practice, as well as communication. Didn’t you say we weren’t capable of such? And besides, if Spartan training is truly superior to that of the Merczateers (which, according to every single member who has defected or is ready to, is not), then your pilots should be making use of the exact same tactics and learn to spot an ambush before leaping right into it. I’m anticipating you’re probably going to try to spin some cry for fair fighting and one on one combat here. Well, let me assure you, Bruno… with three Dorus RARELY being able to take down a single Merczateer aircraft, superior in both technological capability and pilot skill, making such a demand would be signing the death warrant of every last Spartan pilot. Go ahead and do so, I look forward to reading the notecard where you explain to your pilots they have to engage Uriels in single combat. It’s a shame I’ll never get that notecard, as you are too much of a hypocritical hot air bag to actually adhere to the standards you demand everyone else to.
Now you re-visit the combat blockade, and claim that it is no threat to mighty Sparta! Well Bruno, you’re now going to get a chance to put your money where your mouth is. And I’d wager that while you might be happy to sit around in your sim, screwing recruits and thumping your chest while masturbating to pro wrestling pay per views all day, your troops will not be so eager to be relegated to boredom simply to help preserve the pride of their angry toddler of a king. Good luck in dealing with that, you’re going to need it.
Oh, this should be entertaining. You’re claiming now that Ordo doesn’t like us, and that there was some incident where Aryte insulted Phillip and we had to bribe him to stay. Well, as an active participant and adviser to the Merczateer Komissariat, as well as a close friend of Aryte’s, I can tell you that this is news to all of us, especially Phillip. Once again, Bruno, follow your own advice and check your facts before making some half assed assertion. As far as Mercz and Ordo not getting along? Yes, we have our issues. Certain members of each group don’t get along with one another, and we take action to make sure that does not become an issue. However, there is one thing we ALL agree on, and will set aside our differences at any time to discuss, and that is that you, good sir, are a tool, a failure, and a disgrace both to your military and the combat community as a whole. So trust me when I say that as long as you’re around to poke fun at and ridicule (which won’t be for too much longer, much to the chagrin of my sense of humor), there will never be open hostilities between the Mercz and Ordo. Since we’re on the topic of aggrivated alliances, I’d like to take a quick moment to discuss the situation between Sparta and the AN. Now, having spies and alts in both groups, it’s easy to see that the strife among certain members of Mercz and Ordo is a picnic with punch and pie compared to the state of affairs between the group that sustains you all on life support with technology and military support. Did you really think that calling for AN reinforcements every time Mercz attacks and then refusing to go help them defend wouldn’t damage your image? Hell, the things I have to say about you are compliments if you’ve ever heard the majority of the AN talk. Hell, I used to think the craptastic neo-nazis in Supox were the only thing the rest of Ascendant Initiative and Iron Symphony could agree on. It’s quite comical to sit and talk with a group who normally is very hostile, and sit there on friendly terms and laugh at the child king of Pacific Breeze. Seriously, Bruno, if your closest allies don’t respect you, who do you think will?
Spammy guns and mass rush tactics. So you’re issuing new less-spammy weapons and it’s against your ROEs to attack en masse? Well, I have two things to say to that. The first is, I’m happy you’ve finally gotten your greasy little palms on some GOOD open source scripts to hack apart and claim as your own. The second is… Bruno, you are a fuck. Sparta doesn’t HAVE troops to attack en masse with. That’s like saying “Oh, I would have bought you this if I had the money” Sure, the thought is nice, but it has zero relevance when everyone around you has the numbers and the ability to back up their claims. You don’t have the manpower to organize a rush to begin with, so saying you prohibit your men from doing so is like telling them not to shoot people while issuing them unloaded guns. It just serves to further highlight your arrogance and your ignorance.
Let’s talk scripts now. Sure, I’ll freely admit that the Mercz guns can cause lag. However, they’re nothing when compared to the Spartan spam cannons (I’ll make a judgment on your new weapons when one is issued to one of my alts.) Yes, Jeremy is a talented scripter. He makes fine weapons. And yes, we did indeed have a scripter throwdown where we squared off in an attempt to see whose scripts lagged less, just as we said we would in the notecard. Funny thing about what you preach, Bruno… had you followed up on your “LOL CHATLOG!”, you would have found that Jeremy and I came to a draw, with our weapons causing such minute amounts of lag that sim fluctuations and anomalies were a noticeable factor, and were the only degree of separation in our weapons, which we tested multiple times to be sure. Jeremy is a very talented scripter, as I have said, but I guarantee you he would agree with me when asserting that YOUR gear is nothing more than cheap Made in China AN knockoff crap. Also, while I doubt you have any motivation or personal sense of integrity (even though you claim you do), you may also want to check your facts on why he joined and left both Mercz and Ordo, and ask him how he feels about the AN.
Your conclusion is every bit as pathetic as the rest of your post, so I’ll gladly wrap you up here. I -DO- care about my enemies having fun and enjoying themselves in combat. Why do you think I’m working to get rid of you? I like Sparta, and I like the people in it. I just agree with them that you are Sparta’s biggest enemy, and if you don’t go, the group will die. I’d hate to see that happen, but it just means more of your people, your good people, will come to us. If you claim your faux-honor and egomaniacal method of leadership to be the “high road”, then I’m glad that’s a road I don’t walk, as I’m going to laugh my ass off when that road collapses under the weight of your fat, ego-inflated head combined with your hypocritical nature and you go tumbling down the cliffs of Mount Olympus. As for the good Spartans like Luci Himmel, it won’t be long before she too sees your incapabilities as a leader, and begins to question you. And -WHEN- she does, for it will happen, and you react in the way you react to all criticism, I can guarantee you that while she may not be a brainless grunt today, and she may not be one tomorrow, I have full confidence that it won’t be long before I see her patrolling Salamis behind a gas mask with the rest of her old Sparta comrades.
Bruno, you are beaten. You cannot hope to ever achieve the level of respect held by the genuine leaders of the SL military community. Respond again, I dare you. Showing you to be the bitch that you are in front of large groups of people is quite delightful for me. In all seriousness, you need to stop crying, ditch your bottle and diaper, and grow up into a real leader. Continue to act like a baby, and Nanao Mahfouz might just pop in one day with his double demon cocks of terror and give you something to cry about.
Blade Syakumi
Jun 24th, 2008
“Phillip threatened to walk out of Mercz to the AN. Did Aryte get told off by Lurdan or Anthony for insulting an ally? Nope. They had to bribe Phillip to keep him.”
Ziskey, Ziskey, Ziskey. Once again, farcical hypocrisies;
“thing called “research” which means actually checking facts”
Well, Queen Ziskey. Kapitan Hultcrantz, a good friend of mine, -offered- to leave, in order to avoid drama and friction. He was not bribed, he was not begged. He was given the complete option to stay or go.
As for the Uriels. Well. Your grunts were disconcerted with the fact that two men in aircraft managed to push wave after wave of your “army” back, until your men got pissed off with getting it handed to them that they bitched to your “High Command”.
Don’t get me started on your Weekly-Goddamn-Wisdom. You openly denounced all real life enlisted that had the good fortune not to be in your ranks, which, I may add, are few. I, as a soldier, was maddened by this to the point of rage. How can you be so stupid? The Crimson Star offers fair views from either side, both side’s strengths and weaknesses, good moments and bad moments. Where as your “benevolent” hand writes garbage that lies, spreads false rumors and shows the egotistical idiot that you truly are.
As Mister Schuman will gladly back me up on, on the general scale of things, Sparta are pathetic and run by a moron.
Good day.
The Red Baron
Jun 24th, 2008
Script lag of the new attachment based “MiG” Uriel: 0.007 milliseconds
lag of the Spartan Doru fighter: 0.250-.750 ms
lag of the AN Talon: 0.19-0.49 (except when wedged in a sim border after pilot killed, script lag goes over 1.0 ms)
Measurements taken with estate debug tools.
Last week you were claiming the new Uriel exploited an “invincibility bug”, until your excuse making scripter/pilot was proven wrong in every way (like an attachment vehicle not being a physical vehicle, the alleged JIRA article not existing, etc etc etc).
Now, the only reason your Doru ever defeats the Uriel are twofold: a) your plane shoots an unending stream of sim-lagging bullets that spam up a sim, and b) you shoot proximity missiles that violate our rules. The Uriel has a limited firing rate in its railguns, and carries no air to air missile capacity, yet whenever one Uriel flies in Pacific Breeze you seem to need at least two to keep it down, and one point in a recent battle, one Uriel was keeping your entire AD out of combat.
When infantry overrun your base, you bomb your own base with 32 meter range bombs to root people out, which is now accepted to be the standard sign of defeat by the Iron Symphony, although we understand Ascendant Initiative groups commit such an act of desperation on a regular basis.
Steve319 cao
Jun 24th, 2008
“Oh sorry steve, I passed yours over by mistake, I thought it was some random scribbling from a 12 year old who had somehow found his way onto this site. Allow me to AGAIN prove you wrong on every point you make, YOU, the guy who can’t even keep a single group he makes running for more than a few months and STILL thinks he can make it.”
Now I asked the little moron a straight up civil question yet he shows an ever evolving ability to make himself some more retarded with every post lets dispense with he chest beating for a sec shall we the simple facts are is that Sparta is a great group of people who work hard fight fair and a genuinely nice people to talk to i.e Jaxx, Wassac Sparta’s biggest problem is Bruno he is the second life equivalent to Robert Mugabe single handedly isolating his own people and running out of friends fast also what kind of bableing bullshit is this that your ROE forbids mass attacks?
Does that mean if Mercz or Ordo attack on mass you’ll ban enough of them until the odds are in you favor GG my friend
now stop bitching that the Mercz have larger numbers than you as its starting to smerk a bit of jealousy and try doing something about it do whats best for the Spartans resign and head to AN
Lulz
Jun 25th, 2008
“Continue to act like a baby, and Nanao Mahfouz might just pop in one day with his double demon cocks of terror and give you something to cry about.”
Avil Creeggan
Jun 25th, 2008
A half-assed “point by point breakdown” of Mister Schuman’s post, mostly consisting of random observations:
“The Talon flight core is a modified variant of the NOI Mamba, which Avil was able to snag when he was asked by them to write an authentication script. That’s right, your Dorus are nothing more than modified Ordo Mambas in a new shell. ”
I didn’t think I would need to bother to address such a bold-faced lie again. The discussion has been had before, the proof has been given. The Talon scripts are not based, in whole or in part, upon any version of the Mamba flight core. Full-fucking-stop. Even a brief comparison of the Mamba flight core to the Talon flight core, both of which I will make available on request, will reveal next to no similarity to each other. They will reveal similarity to the root of both, the Hammerhead flight core, which I have admitted and will continue to admit was used extensively as a prototype for experiments that would, later, enter the Talon code base. Feel free to IM me personally with any questions.
“As for your “entirely new scripts”, would you care to elaborate on why your aircraft still generate the EXACT same runtime errors as the freebie Talon, down to exact syntax?”
I have not extensively examined the new Doru, however, upon a cursory glance, it does appear to resemble both the flight characteristics and logical structure of the Talon flight core which I released. Furthermore, Spartan High Command had, in previous discussions, given me the impression that the modifications being made to the Doru centered around it’s weapon design.
“I also have to applaud you for your little “ZOMFG Uriels spin rapidly on their X Axis and thus are invulnerable!” theory. ”
This theory is patently false and has been discredited multiple times. Following conversations with members of SHC, however, it appears that Miss Himmel’s theory was not given any implicit or explicit endorsement by Sparta; that is to say, her accusations are a product of herself alone.
“You might claim you believe in fair or honorable combat, but the fact of the matter is is that four Merczateers can easily take down 16 Spartans.”
It is a bit hypocritical to say this and then, previously and, no doubt, in the future, complain about Sparta’s illegitimate tactics and weapons preventing a proper Merczateer victory. The two states are mutually exclusive.
“I do have to thank you for revealing your scripter, however. We’ll take extra delight in taking her from you too. ”
“As for the good Spartans like Luci Himmel, it won’t be long before she too sees your incapabilities as a leader, and begins to question you.”
Didn’t you just fucking mock Luci Himmel, her scripting, and her knowledge of LSL at the start of this diatribe?
“Regarding the combat blockade we’re going to raise on you (and yes, after discussion amongst numerous groups we’ve decided to go ahead), you actually forced our hand on it.”
Are you fucking serious?
“I outright TOLD everyone there about them ages before we began work on them.”
I distinctly remember being told by a panicing Ethan Schuman not to discuss the details of the new Uriel engine after being told that I was a security risk and interrogated for a good deal of time about who revealed the mechanism to me.
That’s about it for now.
–Avil Creeggan.
Avil Creeggan
Jun 25th, 2008
A half-assed “point by point breakdown” of Mister Schuman’s post, mostly consisting of random observations:
“The Talon flight core is a modified variant of the NOI Mamba, which Avil was able to snag when he was asked by them to write an authentication script. That’s right, your Dorus are nothing more than modified Ordo Mambas in a new shell. ”
I didn’t think I would need to bother to address such a bold-faced lie again. The discussion has been had before, the proof has been given. The Talon scripts are not based, in whole or in part, upon any version of the Mamba flight core. Full-fucking-stop. Even a brief comparison of the Mamba flight core to the Talon flight core, both of which I will make available on request, will reveal next to no similarity to each other. They will reveal similarity to the root of both, the Hammerhead flight core, which I have admitted and will continue to admit was used extensively as a prototype for experiments that would, later, enter the Talon code base. Feel free to IM me personally with any questions.
“As for your “entirely new scripts”, would you care to elaborate on why your aircraft still generate the EXACT same runtime errors as the freebie Talon, down to exact syntax?”
I have not extensively examined the new Doru, however, upon a cursory glance, it does appear to resemble both the flight characteristics and logical structure of the Talon flight core which I released. Furthermore, Spartan High Command had, in previous discussions, given me the impression that the modifications being made to the Doru centered around it’s weapon design.
“I also have to applaud you for your little “ZOMFG Uriels spin rapidly on their X Axis and thus are invulnerable!” theory. ”
This theory is patently false and has been discredited multiple times. Following conversations with members of SHC, however, it appears that Miss Himmel’s theory was not given any implicit or explicit endorsement by Sparta; that is to say, her accusations are a product of herself alone.
“You might claim you believe in fair or honorable combat, but the fact of the matter is is that four Merczateers can easily take down 16 Spartans.”
It is a bit hypocritical to say this and then, previously and, no doubt, in the future, complain about Sparta’s illegitimate tactics and weapons preventing a proper Merczateer victory. The two states are mutually exclusive.
“I do have to thank you for revealing your scripter, however. We’ll take extra delight in taking her from you too. ”
“As for the good Spartans like Luci Himmel, it won’t be long before she too sees your incapabilities as a leader, and begins to question you.”
Didn’t you just fucking mock Luci Himmel, her scripting, and her knowledge of LSL at the start of this diatribe?
“Regarding the combat blockade we’re going to raise on you (and yes, after discussion amongst numerous groups we’ve decided to go ahead), you actually forced our hand on it.”
Are you fucking serious?
“I outright TOLD everyone there about them ages before we began work on them.”
I distinctly remember being told by a panicing Ethan Schuman not to discuss the details of the new Uriel engine after being told that I was a security risk and interrogated for a good deal of time about who revealed the mechanism to me.
That’s about it for now.
–Avil Creeggan.
Nexii Malthus
Jun 25th, 2008
Funny that Sparta accuse others of being drama queens when they have their very own story tellers that are ready to spam the herald with their fantastically written lies
Bruno Ziskey
Jun 25th, 2008
I find it quite sad Ethan, that despite everything that’s happened, you still rely on lies to “support” your claims. Care to explain to me how Tracy and Luci both said that the new Uriel is ILLEGAL and yet you flaunt the supposed “fact” that both of them said it was legal……so do tell, why do you think you have to lie? Answer: You have nothing true to back up your claims, and when you have no proof left, you come up with it.
As for the blockade: go ahead. We survived without you for quite a while, we’ll do it again. You’re not necessary to us. I will also quite enjoy seeing Mercz flee when Sparta enters Dorien’s base again the next time Mercz attack Dorien…since if a blockade is in effect, you’ll have to leave to not make any contact with us. You really should follow logic better Ethan.
Anon
Jun 25th, 2008
Sparta still exists? Last time I checked, 90% of them including “King Bruno” were one bus ride away from drool cups and crash helmets. Glad to see nothing has changed there.
Also, the new Uriel design was indeed brought up by Ethan at a STABLE meeting and was approved by all in attendance, including whatever person from Sparta who was there. (It wasnt Bruno, big surprise.) I’m not entirely sure who Tracy and Luci think they are to single handedly declare something “illegal” but perhaps a study needs to be done by all of the STABLE organizations to settle it once and for all.
Regardless, the fact remains that alot of Sparta is good, however Bruno himself consists of nothing but pure, 100% natural, not from concentrate fail. So the rest of Sparta will continue to suffer because of one man’s delusions of grandeur.
Avil Creeggan
Jun 25th, 2008
To clarify the rather incendiary remarks regarding the Sparta combat blockade:
Phillip Hultcratz and Lurdan Huszar are currently banned from Spartan territory for their use of the new Uriel type. As such, apparently, the Merczateers will not be engaging Spartan forces until such a time that these bans, and the bans of any other Merczateer personnel, are lifted.
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Also, to cut off the certainly coming argument regarding the new Uriel type, behold the following.
The new Uriel type falls under the following section of STABLE, left intentionally vague, under the assumption that common sense would be used as the defining metric for interpretation. Obviously, that assumption was wrong — it seems that common sense is, indeed, not common at all.
“Avatar flight is prohibited, as is any other controllable three-dimensional flight outside of an acceptable hovercraft, airframe, or other vehicle. Three-dimensional flight is defined as flight in which one can travel in either the positive or the negative direction along all three major axis (XYZ.) ”
The key phrase is “airframe… or other vehicle”, and it is appears to, regrettably, now require review. For reference, the “75 meter” argument which will shortly come up lies within the following clause…
“Jump enhancers (defined as devices which assist the vertical movement of an avatar past obstacles by means of upward thrust or negation of the effects of gravity) are not included in the definition of controllable flight. However, they are limited to a maximum jump height of 75 meters. (For systems that modify the effects of gravity on an avatar, this means that these systems may not reduce the effect of gravity below 5%.) ”
The key phrase here is “not included in the definition of controllable flight”. Please disregard these arguments out of hand.
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Now, compare the above to the following clause of STABLE, which, I assure you, is not at all vague or indirect:
“Ammunition which offsets it’s trajectory or rez location to maximize the probability of or ensure collision with and death of an avatar is prohibited.”
You may come to your own conclusions.
Lurdan Huszar
Jun 25th, 2008
Oh boy, I love Herald flame wars, guess I’d better join in.
Okay, so, we’re currently ceasing all interaction with Sparta until Bruno stops believing this ridiculous story Luci came up with about our Uriels. Because of what one Spartan pilot told him he decided to ban myself and Phillip Hultcrantz, my AD Overseer from his sim without even caring to find more evidence to prove if what he believes our Uriels are doing is even the case or not. Our Uriels don’t exploit /anything/. They’ve been re-designed to work as attachments which simply apply impulses to an avatar to simulate flight, which allows us 256 prims to design our craft and a substantially less amount of lag. Aside from that, they function and move just like its predecessor. I like dogfights, and I’ve been trying to improve the state of air vehicle use in Second Life combat for a while now. Why the hell would I make our Uriels invincible by exploiting a bug? I’ve shown Luci, I’ve shown Tracy. I even let him shoot me down with his rifle. There are no exploitations occurring. Even AN can tell Sparta this, I had a great dogfight with Jim Herbst last night and there were no problems. Aside from Bruno’s behavior, Sparta’s been great to us, and we’ve tried to be great to them. I’m sure the Spartans wouldn’t want to see a good adversary disappear because of one leader’s ignorance and emotionally driven decision making. During Bruno’s soon to be seen point by point attempt at “breaking down” my statements, he’s probably going to throw in a “well you guys don’t try to be fair and honorable by grunt flooding waaaaa” statement here. So, Bruno, did you have a blind-fold on a week ago when we attacked you with five men? Oh wait, you did, because you totally weren’t paying attention when you received my rifle butt to your face. We made it recent policy to only attack Sparta with roughly the same numbers that they have, and we’ve begun to treat other armies in this manner as well, because for the most part, your request for me to stop sending thirty grunts to take on your handful of plebes was understandable. It’s upsetting that you /still/ insist that we’re “grunt-flooding” you after two major attacks in which we exercised similar numbers, and also the fact that you have a twenty agent limit on your sim. I think you’re just blinded by your emotions Bruno, and it’s unfortunate to see in a leader of a group of genuinely good people that I enjoy having combat with. So, in conclusion, try to be more impartial with your judgments Bruno, because it’s damaging your group, and remember, I’m not trying to hurt you, but you keep thinking I am. If you’re willing to work with me, I’m willing to work with you.
Lurdan Huszar
Marshal Merczateers
Artemis Fate
Jun 25th, 2008
If Drama was bought and sold, military groups would be the Cuban cigars of drama.
Ethan Schuman
Jun 25th, 2008
For Avil:
(-) “I didn’t think I would need to bother to address such a bold-faced lie again.”
You may wish to speak with Jeremy regarding that, as I can expressly remember him informing me of the contrary. Having flown both Talons and Mambas, and noting the remarkable similarities in them both, it’s not difficult to believe the connection if it is proposed. However, since you are right that both are based heavily off the Hammerhead core, I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt here.
(-) “I have not extensively examined the new Doru, however, upon a cursory glance, it does appear to resemble both the flight characteristics and logical structure of the Talon flight core which I released.”
Pilots and scripters all throughout the SL military community are noticing this. Perhaps Bruno has some super secret version in reserve. I seriously doubt this, but given Bruno’s announcement of retrofitted aircraft entering service, time will tell the true story.
(-) “Following conversations with members of SHC, however, it appears that Miss Himmel’s theory was not given any implicit or explicit endorsement by Sparta; that is to say, her accusations are a product of herself alone.”
From Weekly Wisdom: “A: The Spartans mentioned are the honorable and talented Luci Himmel, training for Officer status in SAF, and Tracy Laszlo, beloved Air Marshal. What is NOT mentioned here is that BOTH of them reported the aircraft to be illegal to Bruno,
something the Mercz again ignore, seeking to create more lies when they have no
evidence to support their claims.”
If you were there when we spoke to Bruno, we offered to demonstrate the technology to him, but he declined, trusting the questionable testimony of his subordinate over an actual objective demonstration. Talk about ignorance. I wonder if we could bribe Traci into creating new uniforms for Bruno that can only be seen by worthy individuals.
(-)”It is a bit hypocritical to say this and then, previously and, no doubt, in the future, complain about Sparta’s illegitimate tactics and weapons preventing a proper Merczateer victory. The two states are mutually exclusive.”
We’ve said it before and we’ll say it again.. Sparta may make use of agent limiting, crying foul, spammy weapons, and ripped off technology, but that’s not near enough to present an insurmountable barrier to a Merczateer attack force, as we have demonstrated time and time again. It’s funny that for all Bruno claims that we’re afraid to send a small force in )and would be unable to win victory even if we did), he never mentions the times we DO send groups of three or four troops in and manage to press the entire Spartan defense force back to their spawns.
(-) “Didn’t you just fucking mock Luci Himmel, her scripting, and her knowledge of LSL at the start of this diatribe?”
Not exactly. I’m not sure what parts of Sparta’s armory are scripted by Luci. However, I will take credit for the assertion that any scripter who makes claims of “rapid x-axis rotation invulnerability” and cites phony JIRA reports to support it is a fucking idiot. Yet, a bad scripter is better than no scripter, and since the only way Sparta will be free of Bruno is to have the army around him collapse, some things just have to be done. Besides, it’s entirely possible Luci is an intelligent individual, and is just suffering the influence of the “BRUNO SMASH!” mindset.
(-) “Are you fucking serious?”
Quite serious. You can’t fight an army that bans your people every time you shoot them on a battlefield. You can either let them go be well enough on their own, or you can engage them on the political and psychological level. While we would let Sparta go, Bruno talks enough shit and suffocates his otherwise quality army to such a disturbing degree that this has become somewhat personal. Unlike Bruno, the Iron Symphony actually DOES work to improve the SL combat scene. If that means taking a restrictive faction leader out of play so his men can realize their destiny as a military superpower, then that’s exactly what we’ll do.
(-) “I distinctly remember being told by a panicing Ethan Schuman not to discuss the details of the new Uriel engine after being told that I was a security risk and interrogated for a good deal of time about who revealed the mechanism to me.”
Hell yes I wanted you to stay quiet about the new engine while it was still in R&D. We had no idea just what the implications of attachment based aircraft would be, or if we could pull it off in such a way where it would properly emulate vehicular movement. The uncertainty of the technology and its application meant that we couldn’t allow Merczateers to find out about the work we were doing until we were definite it was something we would develop into a combat weapons system. However, my larger concern, and why I was so zealous with my questioning, was that I simply didn’t know how much you knew, and I didn’t want the actual workings of the system out in the public domain at that point in time.
That being said, with the absolute AMAZING increase in resource consumption efficiency, as well as combat performance, it has become quite clear to the Merczateers that attachment based vehicles are destined without a doubt become an integral part of SL combat. What many of our adversaries who are complaining do not realize, is that this discovery and technology marks a VERY important advancement for ALL of us. While we constantly fight with one another on the battlefield in an attempt to establish military supremacy, we all stand united against one universal foe, and that is the restrictions placed upon our creativity and engagements by the technical nature of Second Life, especially with lag. I may think Bruno is a fucking idiot, but if his people came across some effective new method to greatly reduce one aspect of combat lag, I’d back them on it fully, and salute them for their ingenuity, and I’m sure most others would too. Our attachment aircraft are still experimental, and will likely remain that way for a while until we have the technology perfected. Linden Labs is requesting input for the deployment of Mono from scripting groups, so if Mono is close, we’ll probably wait for it. While I can’t make it a promise, I myself would have no problem in assisting other factions with the theory portions behind the initial development of attachment craft (No Bruno, we would NOT be giving code or builds, just telling your scripters where to start. If you’re too proud to accept that, then you really need to re-examine your priorities as a leader.)
Now, for Bruno:
Ignoring for a moment the fact that the only conversations I’ve ever had with Tracy are “Nice fight.”, “Good shooting.”, and “Hahaha, flew right into your wingman there.”, and that I’ve NEVER spoken to Luci… who exactly are they to dictate what is legal and what is not? You still have yet to explain just HOW attachment aircraft are illegal, only fiercely claiming that they are. Illegal to what ruleset? There’s nothing against them in STABLE, and not a soul had a problem with attachment mechs (which you used to make AMPLE use of), claiming that a vehicle must be something sat on then. The differences between our attachment Uriels and traditional aircraft are as follows:
1) They cannot be right-clicked.
2) They are much less laggy.
3) Attachment aircraft can be built to a high level of detail, with less sim resources being used.
4) While being less laggy, they are also less sensitive to lag, and respond more smoothly.
One of the big points of contention is that we can use them to instantly warp into a fight, combat ready. As nifty as that might be, we can’t actually make use of that advantage. The current Uriels do not reset on teleport properly, and must be reattached and started. Our hitboxes are exactly the same. Our flight characteristics are just like regular aircraft. So, I ask you again, why are they illegal? I’ve already proven they give us no significant advantage except for not being able to be right clicked. Is it because you can’t stand not being able to edit freeze enemy aircraft? Or is it simply because you’re jealous that we have a toy you don’t? If it’s the second, and I strongly suspect it is, you’re just setting yourself up for humiliation later when the technology becomes much more widespread. So, stop trying to claim I said something I didn’t to defend your coward’s code, and get with the program.
Showing up to defend AN while under a combat blockade presents an interesting situation. Mercz themselves will likely withdraw, and I’ll probably take the opportunity to grab names and convince more of your troops to defect, while spreading around more objects that create laughter at your expense. However, let’s look at this for a moment. The Merczateers and Alliance Navy are now enjoying regular, fun combat with one another. The battles between our factions are doing both sides good. Now, while I cannot speak for the commanders of the AN, I’m more than willing to bet that after all the times they’ve come to assist you in defense from us (which you claim you don’t need) and you have failed to return the favor, showing up in their sim while we fight with each other for the express purpose of getting the Mercz to withdraw will not only be unappreciated, but viewed as an insult. I know that’s exactly how I would feel in their situation. “OH HAI GUYZ, I KNO U HELP US ALL THE TIEM AND WE NEVUR HELP U BACK, BUT NAO WE HAS REASON TO COME RUIN UR FUN TO MAEK OUR KING FEEL GOOD LOLOL!” An alliance only works if both sides give something to the equation, which you have failed time and time again to do for the AN, and they know it. It would be foolish of you to believe that they will sacrifice their fun to support you simply to help stroke your pride.
You know what? I’m actually going to go one step further. You want “fair fighting”? You want one on one odds? Well then I’ll give you a chance to back up your talk. I’ve spoken with Lurdan Huszar, and we have the following proposal. Get with one of us, and we’ll decide on a time and date. We’ll send five Merczateers into your sim, and you can defend against them with five Spartans of your choosing. We’ll also be sending in a non-combative cameraman, who will record the whole battle. You may have your own person present to serve in the same role if you wish. One on one combat, us versus you, just like you like it. And this time, there will be footage to prove the outcome, whatever it may be.
So what do you say, Bruno? Up for proving what you say you stand for? Or is the thought of getting filmed as we kick your ass by your own rules too terrifying for the little baby? You can rant and rave about how “cheap” Merczateers are and how you don’t want to ever let another one into your sim, but all that will serve to do is to prove you the liar and coward the whole community knows you are. Prove yourself, and accept the challenge. Even if you lose, at least you’ll have done so honorably in defense of your beliefs, rather than kicking and screaming about how unfair SL is because other militaries who have worked hard and earned their place have better things than Sparta.
This is how everyone views you now, Bruno:
http://img164.imageshack.us/img164/9343/brunoportraitbb6.jpg
It’s time for you to grow up and start acting like a military leader, rather than a whining little baby. Earn some respect, for yourself and your group, or die in obscurity as the rest of the community presses down and snuffs you out. The choice, and with it the destiny of your group, are in your hands. Don’t let your men down.
Bruno Ziskey
Jun 25th, 2008
Besides your pointless babble, here’s something for you: “after all the times they’ve come to assist you in defense from us (which you claim you don’t need)”
I never said that and never will. Unlike Ordo, AN actually do help us and we always appreciate the help.
Bruno Ziskey
Jun 25th, 2008
Besides your pointless babble, here’s something for you: “after all the times they’ve come to assist you in defense from us (which you claim you don’t need)”
I never said that and never will. Unlike Ordo, AN actually do help us and we always appreciate the help.
Nexii Malthus
Jun 25th, 2008
Very well put Ethan, like a true member of the respectable military community unlike those of the griefer outcasts.
Ethan Schuman
Jun 26th, 2008
I’m sure you do, Bruno. Do you send tributes of kiddie porn to show your thanks? I mean, I sometimes go into Dorien. But up until today I’ve rarely, if ever, seen Sparta come to AN’s assistance.
“Unlike Ordo, AN actually do help us and we always appreciate the help.”
I’m not exactly sure what you meant by that, but perhaps if you, oh, I don’t know… stopped banning their people and trash talking them, Ordo might be willing to help you all too. See, it’s funny. Your pride is your biggest enemy. If you’d act like a respectable leader instead of a screaming baby, you’d find the community taking you more seriously, and actually helping you to better your military. I’m not talking about handouts, but if you put the “RAWR, SPARTA! HAET MURKZ! SCREW DIPLOMACY!” attitude aside, I can personally guarantee you that at least one person would come help you deal with issues, and do so in a much faster, effective, and efficient way than your current approach does. Every single military group on the grid has gotten help from another group at some point in their history, sometimes from their greatest enemies. AN helped Ordo when they were in their transition period out of Venuma. Ordo helped Mercz as AN II after the incident at Adscita. Mercz (including myself) chipped in money to help AN save Dorien when Jared wanted to offload it. I don’t think I need to mention the help that both you and SLSN received from AN. I’ve helped Raideur and MC with technology. The point is, you might hate me and I can’t stand you. But when it comes down to it, all SL militaries are family (No! BAD NANAO!). We might trash talk one another and wish bodily harm on our enemies, but when it comes down to it, when one group is in trouble, we band together, put our differences aside, and take care of business. It’s that kind of camaraderie that we usually only see during times of crisis that we SHOULD be trying to tap into more regularly, especially with the STABLE II conventions. However, like I said, until you grow up and start acting like a real faction leader, your group is doomed to never achieve its potential.
I noticed you also skipped right over my challenge. I’m hoping you just didn’t notice it and aren’t afraid. The offer is quite sincere. Five on five, battle recorded. With all that superior training and troop capability, you should definately be able to handle the type of fight you claim to want, right? We’ll be waiting for your answer.
Steve319 cao
Jun 26th, 2008
Its not often I say this but the Spartans do seem to be trying to practice this numbers rule they attacked U.N.I.T last night with the exact same numbers we had on sim unfortunately tps went down and it got a bit pointless so we all stood around doing pretty much nothing I would love personally to see a new type of standard evolve where the trash talking and mud slinging is dropped Im as guilty as most for talking shit about my enemy’s but its hit me through reading these posts that when we do this we just make the whole community look bad but the only way its ever going to happen is allot of people especially Bruno to drop there attitudes and start talking about just what is fair and what’s not for example the mercz attachment aircraft witch I can honestly say I have not seen in combat but I know for a fact STABLE makes no reference to its legality or the spartan pulse rifles who shoot bullets the size of basket balls and seem to have more bullets than STABLE allows its time to drop the crap and the divides sit down and start talking as we are only hurting myself anyways for those that give a fuck that’s my view on the matter anyone who wants to take a shot at it I don’t care.