Rich Grainger – Coating the World in a Warm Blanket of Software
by Alphaville Herald on 06/01/09 at 7:22 pm
RGF Estates Corporation owns 450 sims – and growing
by Alessandra Narayan
In this interview, Rich Grainger, CEO of RGF Estates Corporation, says he runs a growing company in the virtual land business, and claims his company is growing at the rate of one new sim per day. An entrepreneur with hopes of becoming a mega-land baron, Mr. Grainger is willing to reach the top and fight head to head with the big sharks in SL’s estates, but doesn’t plan on issuing an IPO because «RGF doesn’t need one».
Ultimately, Rich Grainger confesses his dream: «Coat the world in a warm blanket of software.» Also, RGF’s CEO explains how his differences with the RGF's prior CEO, Frank Essel, led to a change in command of the corporation.
Alessandra Narayan (AN) – Is it true you said “I’ll make money out of any soul I meet in SL”?
Rich Grainger (RG) – I said I’d sell the souls of all I’ve ever meet to make money, RL or SL.
AN – What's that suppose to mean? That no one can trust you?
RG – I have many who do, more than most. I believe 99% of people like me on my sims. Ask around…
AN – Still, shouldn't there be higher principles or goals rather than money?
RG – Yes, of course, my purpose in life is to coat the world in a warm blanket of software, improve communication, thus increase yield. Example: in Vietnam 1 acre produces 3 bushels of products and in Japan 21. Difference equal to info, crop reports, the more communication, the faster we feed the people, shoe the children.
AN – How many sims do you own now?
RG – 450 approximately.
AN – And you intend to rise that number? And when will it stop?
RG – One per day and I’ll stop when demand stops.
AN – When will you launch an IPO?
RG – No need. Cash positive at the moment. Besides, I have no idea why someone would give away part of a business if capital not needed. So, I don’t intend to launch an IPO and if I did, it would be for something big. Also, I don’t want to be the only large real estate in SL. I think competition will grow all of SL faster and I think SL needs a human anatomy.
AN – Are you thinking of buying smaller corporations?
RG – Yes, but not hostile. Must be unanimous. All agree or no deal.
AN – And did you receive any investment proposal to join you in RGF?
RG – A few from RL and I didn’t reject them, I just don’t have a prospectus or capital need.
Becky
Jan 26th, 2011
Besides RICH, it should not matter what opinion i had, because as you said you dont fire for having an opinion.
rich grainger
Jan 26th, 2011
there is a chance the order was not passed along as i said it. did you submit your schedule?
Becky
Jan 26th, 2011
I did submit my schedule, it was emailed and I told marcus in the email that i could only work when i could since i have a real job im on call for, and the medical field is very irratic in scheduling.
rich grainger
Jan 26th, 2011
ahhh, i think it was just a simple confusion then. you are supposed to send in the days anyway, it doesn’t matter if you miss your shifts, we just don’t want to many showing up at the same time.
Becky
Jan 26th, 2011
That was not the reason I was fired, Smithers told me that they didnt like anyone working for them that didnt like how RGF was run. He told me that marcus told him to tell me that.
ry Nirvana
Jan 27th, 2011
when i was with your company it felt like i would never be promoted and all the experienced i gained i used it to go to another company now where i am a estate director….i only wish you rich would be more involved because i feel marcus and medhi are destroying your company i am a good worker yet they would promote someone who back stabbed and was rude to everyone
rich grainger
Jan 27th, 2011
Ry, from what i remember you were promoted very fast. Many of our employees have rl physical and mental challenges, part of our culture is to tolerate those who are having a bad day, or forgot their medication, or just feeling blue. back-stabbers are transparent, i know who is righteous and who is a joker. our challenge is to show them unconditional friendship and win them over to our side. you were not over-looked, you were being tested. Medhi and Marcus are two of the best in sl land, yet even they are not currently on speaking terms, and have not been for weeks. i doubt it will run me into the ground, my belief is all the internet will be rendered in 3d one day and we are riding the wave. i am here for the long term, and hope you are as well. if i can ever help you and your estate with land, plz let me know, i owe you Ry, you did good work at rgf.
Becky
Jan 27th, 2011
Rich what a load of horse shit you write. Marcus and Medhi have always bad mouthed other employees as well as customers, whether current or coming to RGF for land. What you are saying that because of a physical ailment that person has the right to be an asshole and treat others like shit? Get your morals right. I know of someone who had a personality disorder, a very severe one, yet because others didnt like how she acted even though they knew she had it they bad mouthed her then got her fired.
As Ry said you need to stop sugar coating every negative action your “favourite” employees do, and take responsibility for the fact that no employee should talk to or treat anyone in that rude manner. It is your company afterall, stop letting these low lifes give your company a bad name. I do not care if you are physically challenge and have one leg, or that you were beaten as a child by your father. It gives you absolutely no right to talk to others as if you are better than them. NO ONE HAS THAT RIGHT.
But i digress, I am beginning to see, very clearly, that rude and obnoxious behaviour seems to be a norm in today’s society and if you dont conform then you dont fit in.
Steve
Jan 27th, 2011
Becky, I have to say that although what you say is true, as I have worked for this company, there is no point in trying to change the likes of this company. Same goes for Ry, the big corporations always get farther by using the smaller ones as toilet paper.
Undisclosed Avatar
Jan 27th, 2011
Shameless just shameless.
I will never go to work or buy land from a company, where so many have something bad to say about it.
General Drama
Jan 28th, 2011
Wow what a lot of drama for a 7 month old article.
rich grainger
Jan 28th, 2011
Becky, i wish there was a way to change your mind. i have offered you your job back, a promotion, free land, free tier and nothing seems to appease you. So i wish you well, live long and prosper.
Becky
Jan 28th, 2011
You didnt offer me my job back, I am still waiting for that invite, yet it hasnt come
Steven
Jan 28th, 2011
Becky let us know if he actually does give you your job back or is just saying it to save face. Though I think if you do get it back, they may just find reasons to fire you again, because they do not want you there.
Bradley AER
Jan 29th, 2011
Hi Rich! Thank you for making the effort to speak with Android! I am greatly appreciative of this. It is always good to be kind to others, you never know when you might need them.
Shawn, I appreciate your advise, but I do not believe in that kind of turnover. I believe in just coaching and training will pay off
Becky, I have been reading those comments that you wrote and I do not agree. I have dedicated my life to advocating and supporting those with disabilities or mental/physical challenges similar to the one’s that are possessed by those employed by RGF. I do not merit all of their actions as right or the greatest good of the greatest number. I am simply stating that it must be tolerated and excused at times. I am also a person who grew up with certain challenges, and I know how hard it is.
Bradley AER
Jan 29th, 2011
And The comment about always being kind was meant for me, not Rich.
ry Nirvana
Feb 1st, 2011
– Instant message logging enabled –
[23:27] Shaun Kalil: (Saved Tue Feb 01 02:25:19 2011) and if you still have a problem with me ry… dont go behind my back to other co workers, say it yourself.
[2011/01/31 23:22] Tristan Endersleigh: he said you wouldnt talk to him
[2011/01/31 23:22] Tristan Endersleigh: that you made your jr em talk
[2011/01/31 23:22] Tristan Endersleigh: thats also not professional
[2011/01/31 23:23] Tristan Endersleigh: but im not inbetween you guys anymore thankfully
[2011/01/31 23:23] ry Nirvana: i was afk
– Instant message logging enabled –
so even when im not with rgf and working for another company im being talked to with the up most disrespect im not happy at all with this….
Marcusgay Lefevre
Feb 1st, 2011
hi all…
I´ve read all this comments some time now and i feel bad and sad about, actually i didn´t want to comment it, but now i think i may explain mayself.
Medhi and me are spending a lot of time on lands, fixing lands and boxes while other stuff mainly is supposed to be at office, welcome incoming residents and to show/ sell thme land. Besides this i`m doing tons of organsiatorical work no one knows or can see cause it requires certain permissions…Since RGF growed like it did in past year it disallows me to monitor office and employees like i was able to before…Now i`ve to trust our Sr. Estate Managers for their opinion about certain employees acting or other happenings at office or support. When RGF was “smaller” the time when i started to be Vice-Director i even was able to hold classes for different topics like i.e. terraforming or how to use estate menu. All this i can`t do anymore and i also can´t have the personal connection to each employee anymore, sadly…whenever i try my best. As far as i remember i appreciated Ry`s motivation for RGF and he actually was one of the fastes promoted ones…I admit, i`m not a friend of fast promotions and Rich will agree to that. I had to work hard to get my butt “up” there where i am and i don´t like to give promotions like a candy. But if i think someone really deserves it regrding i always agree w/ Medhi about and don`t hesitate to promote…., whenever we had a lot of bad experience w/ fast promoted ones. Actually my experience is, the faster promoted ones even leave RGF for some reason faster than the ones who had to work longer and harder, best examples are the current Sr. Estate Managers. Currently i`m again about to promote the one and other, also into estate manager ranks, and again there some i don´t have a “100%” feeling about, but i have to do unpopular decisions, even i know already not all RGF will agree to my decision. So far…being estate director isn`t a game…, there always will be someone who hates me for what I`m doing…i got over it w/ time. That includes also the part when i have to fire someone. I don`t like to fire or to demote someone, i even hate it…, but as writeen before, i have to trust the estate managers in their opinion…and as far as i remember Becky and me didn´t have much conservation, the few logs i reviewed were just straight about the job, nothing else. Actually i told Smithers to wish you good luck, but the decison to fire you just were based on the incoming complain about being disrespectfully and leaving coworkers alone at office while there was a crowd of customers and every helping hand needed. I do not publish any chat logs here or in SL like some others do to bring others in miscredit or even to use it out of context…, but if i have done a wrong decision i always will stand to it and if i have to straighten it, i will do as well. I also learned w/ time to give everyone a 2nd chance…that i got from Rich though.
About badmouthing…well…yes…sometimes i leave a “bad” comment about something what happened…, but isn´t it just human? I wouldn´t talk in front of any customer that way…and if i say something that way i do cause i trust my team…and i know everyone in estate business (not just RGF) feels bad treated by some residents same way than i do. We all try our best to fulfill all of our residents desires and some few even kick our butts for like we wouldn`t be worth a penny…you may say, get over it, it is your job…ok…but within a team there may be a ventil to get this pressure away and to laugh about….if we all would just suck the anger and depression we have about all that…how we are supposed to be happy worker? Do you kissass the customer who treated you like a cheap thing of meat even if they are not around anymore? I don`t think so.
Actually more sad makes me that we had a member in team taking all that into public, sharing chat logs w/ other residents and even here at a internet platform…how I`m supposed to trust everyone in my team if it goes that way?
Well, just some thoughts, and i have a lot more though, but not all can be written down and not all is supposed for public.
But at all…i love RGF, i love my team as the most are real hard worker and i love our residents as the most appreciate our individuality and have learned and love to laugh w/ us by times…besidens all hard business we are running.
I wont leave a further comment to this here as i`ve some work inworld which takes priority for me instead discussing around one thing.
Thank you for reading anyway.
Marcusgay Lefevre
Feb 1st, 2011
sorry my typos though, some day i`ll learn to type proper english
Tristan
Feb 6th, 2011
Ry i’ll thank you to keep my name out of your mouth unless you are going to tell the complete truth and not snipets of them. Anyone can manipulate text said in second life to be something malicious with little effort. I’ve been nothing but nice to you the first time you worked at RGF the second time you worked at RGF and the third time when you came back on an alt. I went above and beyond to help you and each time you QUIT. (btw you quit if you forgot) Maybe RGF isn’t the problem and you just enjoy drama?
Becky
Feb 10th, 2011
As usual the shit people say it all two faced.
as Marcus said “Do you kissass the customer who treated you like a cheap thing of meat even if they are not around anymore? I don`t think so” Uh sorry to bust your bubble marcus but being nice to another person even if they are rude to you is more mature than badmouthign them behind their back. The point of good business is to not treat the customer like crap after all they are the ones who make you your money. Anyone who says its okay to treat someone like crap after they are out of earshot is not someone i would ever put in high regard. Do i want someone badmouthign me just because they didnt like something about me as soon as i leave the room. Yous ee how immature and childish that sounds. You wont always liek what someone says get over it, thats life being mature about it makes you the better person.
Becky
Feb 10th, 2011
Marcus again doesnt have his facts…(and as far as i remember Becky and me didn´t have much conservation, the few logs i reviewed were just straight about the job, nothing else. Actually i told Smithers to wish you good luck, but the decison to fire you just were based on the incoming complain about being disrespectfully and leaving coworkers alone at office while there was a crowd of customers and every helping hand needed) I think you confuse me with someone else, i was fired because i didnt like how rich said he wouldnt pay us, though i worked a lot of hours for rgf. But apparently the hours i worked meant nothign if they werent scheduled, again another reason why these people are a bunch of ungrateful swine. I was never ever rude to anyone and treated all with respect. As far as i know no one had any complaints about me, so i think unless you know my sl name you dont have a clue who i am.
Nelson Jenkins
Feb 10th, 2011
I hate to add fuel to the fire, but RGF has really gotten out of hand. I had several bad experiences with them recently involving my company.
I purchased a sim (initially a homestead, but later upgraded to a full sim) along with my employee and we split the cost 50/50, including the cost to rename the sim to my company name (it was renamed to “Gentek” to prevent people from having to misspell “Gentek Technologies”). I was told I was listed as a co-owner of the sim; however, I was never able to get estate privileges because I had “a bad record with RGF”, despite never even knowing about them until I had found the land. I shrugged this off and figured the time and effort it would take to move my entire operation to another sim would just cause confusion and additional expenses.
About a month later, I was getting fed up with my neighbor’s sim. He had terraformed the land totally flat about 30m higher than the water line and was using a horrid terrain texture that completely ruined the island ambiance of my region. I contacted RGF to see if they had any policies on neighbor relations; they said it was their land and they can do what they want with it, but if I wanted to pay to move my sim, they would be happy to take my money.
3-4 months later, the employee who shared the sim with me was fired. I issued him a notice that he had to either give up his part in ownership of the sim or pay for 50% of the price for a name change to something that didn’t involve my company. He refused, muted me, and estate banned me from the region.
I contacted RGF about the matter and was informed that since I was not a co-owner on the rental box, there was nothing I could do. I explained that I was, in fact, a co-owner, but I wasn’t allowed estate privileges because of some bad history that nobody would explain to me. I was repeatedly asked if there was anything else they could help me with, such as finding new land (they’re really keen on you as a potential customer, not you as a person). I left.
I contacted Linden Lab and my lawyer, who both assured me that since the region is named in a manner that directly reflects my company, it is my intellectual property and fell under the DMCA. It did not qualify as my trademark, as “Gentek” is obviously trademarked by several other real-life companies. However, within the confines of SL, Linden Lab would be required to act upon the DMCA, as it would be valid, and the employee would actually not be able to counter-file without perjuring themselves.
So, I contacted the employee through email and informed him of the DMCA that would be filed if good-faith steps weren’t taken to resolve the problem. I restated my offer of either transferring sim ownership to me or paying 50% of a name change (L$10,000).
I also contacted RGF again to inform them of the DMCA, and asked them to contact the landlord to have the land transferred to me. They told me that they are unable to do anything because I am not a customer. I tried to explain the issue to 3 different people who all said the same thing. I told them that they would be listed as co-violators for failure to act on the DMCA; they said I could not do that, but couldn’t explain why. (My lawyer and a Linden Lab representative assured me that they could be listed as co-violators for this reason, and I tend to believe them moreso than this battalion of money-hungry salespeople). They once again offered to show me around their estate (no doubt to try to sell land to me), so I left.
As a last-ditch effort to get through to RGF, I contacted Marcus. I got an email back from someone completely different who asked me if I could verify that I was the owner of “gentak”. No signature, no letterhead, nothing, just their first name. I had a pretty hard time figuring out that this was actually Rich himself, who proceeded to lead me on a chain of no less than 29 emails trying to accomplish three things: obtain my personal information, obtain the real-life address of my business, and thoroughly convince me that I do not hold a trademark on “Gentek” and thus can’t file a DMCA. I tried to explain to him, time and time again, that intellectual property is totally separate from trademark, but no such luck. He continued to apparently google “Gentek” and copy-paste address results into emails, asking if these places were where I worked. (If he had bothered to google “Gentek Technologies” and click on what was clearly my website, he would have learned that our real-life location is in Southern California, the address of which he never found. Very sound investigative work, Rich!) I offered to send him signed, notarized statements of all of the claims I was making and the notice of the DMCA (along with why he was in violation as well for not making a good-faith effort to resolve it), but he would not give me a fax number or address which I could send it to. All I got was repeated emails stating such things as “I want to help!” but resorting to bland requests for evidence of me owning a trademark.
I have not filed the DMCA because, frankly, Linden Lab won’t do anything to RGF since they’re such a big customer, and the employee in question has since sold the land to another person so I can’t file against him.
All in all, as he said in the interview, Rich will quite literally sell your soul for a nickel. He sees nothing but potential profit in every single person that walks onto his sales floor, like some sort of vulture or used car salesman. He knows absolutely nothing about any sort of law, has zero ethics (nor does his sales crew), and thinks he’s the king of the world because he’s so successful. I strongly recommend against doing any sort of business with them.
I have since moved to Lionheart at the suggestion of a friend and have been utterly overwhelmed by their service. No wonder I could hardly find any open parcels here. It’s good to know that while asshole land barons like Rich squeeze your testicles for loose change, some land companies actually know how to treat their customers well and keep neighbors happy.
Marcusgay Lefevre
Feb 10th, 2011
@Becky …here in Germany we say “touch your own nose while talking about other people…i do that and admit i can be an asshole sometimes, but i learn every day and try to improve…to be better….erm…would you even consider to do touch your nose? Also…, Rich never said he will not pay RGF team…, it was only told, payments are on hold until the schedule is fixed like demanded…and well…schedule is fixed and all got payed…there wasn`t any reason to be mad about it and somehow every current RGF got over it and deals w/…only ones which try to bring RGF into a bad spotlight would use an internet forum and bring such parts into public which apparently hurt theirself, not telling that RGF acutally is a great team of really motivated worker and our customer get treated right way. And if you tell me you always be nice to someone even if they are not around anymore and you felt bad treated by them…erm…why do you make a drama here? I don´t get it, but the really badmouthing one seems to be someone else…huh…you???
@Nelson: When you sent me the email i read it very exactly and i had to admit, i do not have an exactly idea about DMCA since i`m located in Europe. I know there is a law about in USA and prefered to refer it to Rich. But my impression is, that we only would have had to act if the region actually would have been named “Gentek Technologies” About your new land company I`m happy though, RGF actually is happy if other estates are able to provide customer service and support like RGF tries to establish for all Second Life residents as we believe that only a good first time experience helps Second Life to exist and to grow. I`m just not sure about “bad record with RGF”, we do not record anything and refuse to give estate rights for paid lands then… I do have to apologize if there was an issue w/ your estate rights, it shouldn`t happen that a resident has to wait longer than 36 hours for this or anything…even if that happens and i get aware of, we always try to compensate this lack on any way the resident may feel convince w/.
But it is Second Life. A virtual world where everyone should be able to do whatever they are up to as long as it doesn´t cause a physical damage to anyone.
Further: the upcoming issues in past and prolly in future w/ neighbors quite are a pain in my butt…but RGF covenant clearly states that every resident is responsible by own for land, we cannot mediate between neighbors and we may not punish someone either, just cause they raise their land 30m up just cause they like it. I know this liberty we are granting our residents cause some disput but we believe that everyone in Second Life should be able to handle such “confusions” on ways Second Life provides…I do understand if you call a lawer (right word?) if your RL neighbor raise their garden 30m up…, i probably even would call next hospital to get them closed into a rubber cell for some time
Well, i didn`t want to comment this discussion further, but it really hurts me a lot if people think that bad about RGF…I´ve done a lot of afforts to improve RGF`s support and service in past year and i know very well there a lot of points which still need to get improved. That actually might be easy if i only hold a few or a bunch of regions…even if some few hundreds regions held it still is more easy than to straigthen a company which actually is 2nd largest realtor in Second Life, hires everyone who comes along to give a chance for a career and same time trying to provide best but fastest service for any customer, even if they “only” rent 512sqm.
Becky, you may feel ignored by me for future comments, cause i don´t see where your discussion should go to.
All others i may say my deepest apologizes for any problems. We will improve and everything i read I`ll keep in my mind and remember of it, if it comes to similar cases…doing it better that time then. Thats how i learned to work in Second Life…and well, in RL i do same…learning and doing next time better.
Thank you all anyway and sorry for my lack of english again
Yep
Feb 10th, 2011
Go getem Tiger
Becky
Feb 11th, 2011
typical people at rgf, never accept responsibility for your actions, blame others. Well as far as im concerned i will continue to badmouth rgf because they are not a good team to work with and their manners are awful and lacking. I repeat do not work for them if you do you will regret it…trust me.
Nelson Jenkins
Feb 19th, 2011
@ Marcusgay Lefevre
I understand how utterly confusing the DMCA is to Europeans (after all, the concept of intellectual property theft is a very difficult concept to grasp by most Second Life residents), but it still doesn’t cover up the fact that I am horrified by the manner in which a prosperous estate owner would handle a serious legal issue. In fact, I am still harassed by your employees to this day. Here is an example, over a month after this whole ordeal passed:
[20:46:51] Tristan Endersleigh: gentek is for sale
[20:47:16] Nelson Jenkins: Okay?
[20:47:39] Tristan Endersleigh: that’s all have a nice night
[20:48:11] Nelson Jenkins: Thanks for your advertising, I had no intention of doing any business with your company in the first place, but okay.
[20:49:48] Tristan Endersleigh: i just thought it was humorus
[20:49:58] Tristan Endersleigh: i wasnt trying to sell it to you
At that point I had another welcome resident on my mute list. To be contacted in regards to this situation is by no means any good faith act for any legal issue I can think of, so the only reason would be to either provoke or spam me, both of which are listed in an abuse report I just fired off to Linden Lab.
I am not going to report this employee to your organization, however (beyond this AH post, of course) because I, again, do not wish to have any further business with your company. In fact, I would greatly appreciate it if all of your employees (and your incompetent employer) would leave me alone from this point forward, but given the conduct I experienced mere moments ago, I doubt this will be the case.
Yep
Feb 19th, 2011
Yeah go getem Tiger
Marcusgay Lefevre
Feb 24th, 2011
@ Nelson
We have taken Gentek region from grid. The further content of your last post i do not comment…for certain reason though, but i understood and know what to do about. I often have to remember myself that few or less words often are more worth than one to much, especially this thread showed me that once again. I guess I`m not the only one who notices this and hope that my staff recognizes and keeps it in mind for future too.
Tashaann
May 11th, 2011
Rich your an idiot plain and simple. Telling me i have to create a gmail account or i cant work for you, who the hell do you think you are. Anyone who works for this asswipe or even considers buying land with them is an idiot. Why anyone would want to even associate with any of his minions is beyond me. What is worse is the land they sell is way over priced and the service they say they provide is really not as good as they delusion it to be. Dreamgirlc Miles if you ever meet her she is the butt kisser of the century. Marcusgay lefevre is an attention grabbing whore with nazi tendencies. Edge rexen well what can i say i bet he has never sworn in his life and never would cause he is a goody two shoes as they come. Medhi bury is never in office and its amazing he still has a job with the little amount of work he actually does plus he needs a serious attitude ajustment. Sonia is the biggest whiner i have ever met, you could say something about the weather being too hot and she would find a way for it to be an insult to her and her disability. Not to mention she is overly dramatic and needs to seriously grow up. Now this may be a mean rant but really it is a wake up call to those who call themselves RGF supporters, who buy land from these two faced ingrates, You would have to be completely insane to work for them since the only people who actually do work there all have some mental issues. All i can say is i am glad i got my wake up call and would never recommend anyone work for this company and if you do be prepared to be bossed about and told what to do and if you dont you get fired. Oh and as for commissions forget about them, you wont get them, they may say you will but that is all a joke on you expense. trust me they are so mentally unstable there is amazing they havent hung themselves by now, god hope they do soon save the world from these tyrants. There i said my peace, challenge me if you will but freedom of speech will always allow me the right to speak the truth and inform those ignorant of this Holocaust they call a company. So please if you have any brains in your head please do not even ste through their doors and walk the other way.
Rich Grainger
May 15th, 2011
LoL at Medhi not working, he has worked as hard or harder than anyone in SL. Tash, i am sorry you were treated so poorly. using gmail was for my benefit as i am not always able to login. i did a poor job communicating the caveat, being, if you would explain why you did not want to use gmail chat, you could be excused from that task (ask Medhi). If you ever want your job back, email me and we can talk, i hate the thought of you having such a bad opinion of rgf.
Oh noes
May 16th, 2011
SOMEONE ASKED YOU TO CREATE AND USE A SEPARATE E-MAIL TO CONTACT AND STAY UP TO DATE WITH YOU AT A JOB YOU APPLIED FOR?
GASP.
Tashaann
May 16th, 2011
oh no it wasnt to stay up to date on anything at rgf that is why they have an rgf group where they can send out notices and we will get them when we log on. There really was no need for a gmail at all and i found it quite intrusive on my real life. Rgf is a virtual company in a virtual world. Yes people put their real money into rgf but that is their choice and i shouldnt have to give up any control of my real life and should get to decide what i do outside of sl without any bullshit from the people who choose to play inside a game.
Nelson Jenkins
May 16th, 2011
@ Tashaann
Playing devil’s advocate here, but nobody really cares.
If a potential employer says “please make sure you register for a Gmail account so we can keep in contact with you” it is your responsibility to do so. If you don’t, then you simply do not care enough about that job to work for it.
Second Life is a game, yes. You are applying for a position within a company that is based in said game. That doesn’t mean that they are not allowed to transcend communication boundaries and chat with you about your performance and other company information out-of-world (which, actually, would be far better than trying to establish a connection in oh-so-great-for-communication SL).
You are simply attention whoring over a negligible employment requirement. If you don’t like it, then don’t work there. Is that a difficult concept to understand?
hobo kelly
May 16th, 2011
If it smells funny, its probably just a front for making German Shizen Machimas. Was there any mention of having to drink Prune Juice?
Tashaann
May 17th, 2011
you know nelson following the sheep is just pathetic i make my own choices in life and secondlife is a game we have communication in secondlife and many ways to do so there is no need for out of game communication. I choose to have both separate and that should be accepted and not be a deal breaker. Everyone choose to play the game how they want to and being dictated at is not one of the choices i choose to make. I wanted to work there yes but being forced to do somethign outside of secondlife that was not absolutely necessary was just rediculous. I dont consider me having an issue with a job in secondlife as attention whoring. It is just me thinking for myself and speaking my mind, maybe you should look up what attention whoring is Nelson, maybe you might learn something.
Dubbleyew
May 17th, 2011
How hard it is it to make a gmail account, it’s the only email service that doesn’t suck so why aren’t you already using it anyway?
Yep
May 18th, 2011
Go get em Tiger
Yep
May 18th, 2011
“There really was no need for a gmail at all and i found it quite intrusive on my real life.”
I know I have an extreme dislike for sicko’s that think rape is fun. So unless I am on a mission… I stay away from the sicko’s.
Just like if a person wants to talk to you using an outside chat program. If it that is something that you do not like… Don’t use it and find some thing else to do.
“you know nelson following the sheep is just pathetic i make my own choices in life and secondlife is a game we have communication in secondlife and many ways to do so there is no need for out of game communication.”
Hmm Nelson in a sheep suit………. Naw i like my Tiger better
Rich Grainger
May 18th, 2011
Tash, there was supposed to be an opt out clause the requirement anyway, i only ask you explain your opposition to using that chat feature. i would have accepted any other alt, like skype, etc. or if you have a reason(like i use my friends computer and dont want to install anything new), i would have excused it. i apologize this didnt reach me. i purposely test rgf on their ability to handle difficult circumstances. this was not a test, but was telling all the same as we were able to keep you. you are welcome back at anytime. my intent was not to invade rl, just maintain contact when i am not able to log sl. only about half of rgf does it now, and ive never fired anyone over this rule. as you know, the only way to get fired from rgf is being mean to a resident or fellow team member.
Nelson Jenkins
May 19th, 2011
@ Captain Self Centered, a.k.a. Tashaann
I wouldn’t really start throwing around the attention whore deal, considering you’re ranting and raving about this non-issue on a relatively unrelated forum.
Nonetheless, let me reiterate: nobody really cares that you rejected a hiring requirement. I’d love to be able to walk up to my boss and say “I’m not going to follow this rule in the SOP’s but you can’t fire me!” because that would, obviously, get me fired (or, at the very least, laughed out of his office).
There is no “right” to employment (unless you’re black, that is). If you find one of the hiring requirements abhorrent, then you simply cannot work there. Why can’t you comprehend this simple concept? Sure, RGF is a bunch of assholes that nobody should do business with, I’ll give you that, but nobody’s hiring policies can be arbitrarily ignored.
I bet you went to the Wal-Mart and they said they weren’t hiring, so you wrote your local congressperson to protest their hiring policies. Here’s an idea – stop attention whoring over a pointless job with a half-rate virtual company and get a real job like all the rest of us sheep.
Seeekret Purson
Aug 9th, 2011
@Tashaann
You should be ashamed of yourself for insulting dreamgirlc Miles like that. yeah so what if you said she’s a buttkisser or whatever, but she had cancer and NOW SHE’S DEAD. In america at least, or at least where I live, it’s a horrible thing to insult a dead person, well unless it’s bin laden, or hitler
RG is a fag
Jun 14th, 2012
IF YOU DONT RENT HIS LAND YOU WILL BE BANNED FROM
HUNDREDS OF SIMS IN SL .
THIS PIECE OF SHIT BANNED US FROM ALL REGIONS FOR NOT RENTING ON HIS LAND NOW 7 OF US CAN NOT GO TO OUR FAV SIMS LIKE BALKANIK STORE AND MANY MORE !!
THIS THE WAY TO TREAT PPL RICH ? SPENT ALMOT A YEAR HELPING YOUR LEARN AVATAR PROGRAM . TEACHING PPL HOW TO BUILD . FOR FREE FOR YOU TO ACK LIKE THIS .. YOU FUCKKING PIECE OF SHIT
MY NC TO RG.
I was banned off all your sims for stnding with my friends who were looking to rent land from you and now i cant get to my fav store in sl … not cool …. ( my friends were about to pay the tier box then her lindens would not upload and your director banned them and me for standing there ) can you kindly remove me so i can go to my fav store please …. ) i have rented from you in the past and also helped teach at learn avatar wen that program was round )
[04:04] Inventory item offered
[04:08] GG: why ?
[04:09] GG: they were gonna rent
[04:09] GG: her lindens did not load …
( this fag psted my convo from local here )
[04:09] FA: [11:47 PM] (GG): hi
[11:47 PM] RG ( aka FA ): Hello
[11:47 PM] GG): they dont want it
[11:47 PM] GG): have a nice day
( the truth is her lindens did not upload she was imbaresed
so i said she didnt want the land.. )
[04:09] RG: i mute you now, you steal my time
[04:10] GG: she couldnt and she was imbaresd to say to them
RE: No. I was the director who banned you.
LOL
Jun 17th, 2012
What do you expect? Professionalism on Second life? HAHAHA Fat chance of that!
Rich Grainger
Jun 17th, 2012
Dear GG,
I am not a fag, but i like fags and many are my best friends. the term fag is meant to be offensive, however most people take it more as a compliment, so perhaps a different term could better describe me, like thief/crook.
the reason i banned you was many people buy land then resell it without ever paying the tier, yet they collect tier form those they sold the land. this type of scam leave sl with a bad rap. i will unban you if you come to the office. my intent was not to anger you, rather protect others. i apologize for this misunderstanding and hope you will make a ticket on our site so i know who to unban.
Writer
Jun 18th, 2012
This thread is old and stupid.
Rich Grainger
Jun 21st, 2012
thanks writer. i still remember the interview that spawned this thread so long ago. i still follow as a way of keeping tabs on rgf. many times the drama is sorted out before i hear about it. with this thread i can address the actually resident, and hopefully provide a solution.