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66 Responses to “JLU Wiki Leak: Second Life Abuse Report Frenzy”

1. 

   corona anatine
   

   Jan 18th, 2010
   

   One thing this list does make very clear,
   the members of the JLU are greatly in need of english spelling lessons.
2. 

   Robble Rubble
   

   Jan 18th, 2010
   

   I remember the “Ahern Woodbury raid”.

   So baiting maverick into making physical threats counts as a raid now? Also a lot of the names on that list appearing as “part of Woodbury raid on Ahern” aren’t even members of Woodbury. Some of them are just goons who hang out at Ahern wayyyy too much.

   The JLU is trying to imply that any person from Woodbury University leaving their sim in a group of more than 2 counts as a raid.

   …Fucking internet superheroes.
3. 

   Gaara Sandalwood
   

   Jan 18th, 2010
   

   Gaara Sandalwood Maverick Grunfeld 2009-12-31 04:01:38 Justice Island Member of a Woodbury University raiding party on this date at the Jewish Zeide Kamp region. The attack was foiled by JLU intel.

   lolwut?

   Not even gonna bother explaining how faked that is.

   Anyway, I gotta say, though, I imagined he’d be a bit…..smarter, in this case. As unusual as it sounds, I did imagine Kalel would try something a bit more thought out than yelling “DMCA! TAKE THIS DOWN, IT’S ALL COPYRIGHTED!” to every site that has it available for download, but I was wrong. lol.

   Luckily offshore hosted sites don’t give a shit and neither do people like this Sean.

   I had no clue my own existence in SL was copyrighted by the almighty self-proclaimed Superman.
4. 

   Billyjoe Benoir
   

   Jan 18th, 2010
   

   I find it hilarious how many people I know on this list and for the petty reasons they got AR’d. Most of these seem to run along the lines of “OMG he annoys me/I don’t like him, AR’D!!” rather then clear cut cases of actual TOS violations.
5. 

   Joanna Falmer
   

   Jan 18th, 2010
   

   I found this report on myself hilarious.

   IR#: 4045
   Subject: Joanna Falmer
   Stalker…, eh Filer: Kalel Venkman
   Date Filed: 2009-10-25 04:56:16
   Reported From: Ravenglass
   Report Text: Member of Woodbury University – spotted at WU rented parcel on Ravenglass.

   I was also added to their “Griefer List” because of this (it’s their only report on me).
6. 

   Senban Babii
   

   Jan 18th, 2010
   

   “Was talking with Scott Tal in Sandbox Goguen about griefing techniques and wanting to visit the PN website and collect scripts from it.”

   So?

   “Confessed /b/tard”

   So?

   “Known associate of WU raiders.”

   So? (I’m friends with two members of WU, can I be on your list too?)

   “Continued to follow me around, talking to me, despite clear indications of my not wanting to interact with them. AR Filed after continued interaction.”

   You’ve never heard of the mute button? Of course, the mute button doesn’t generate a report that shows how you’re protecting the grid….

   “Made sexual advances in public chat in a PG sandbox”

   Again, you’ve never heard of the mute button? Oh wait, that doesn’t allow for the fact that people can make up their own mind as to what they find objectionable or not.

   “Was harassed by him, filed an AR.”

   Mute button mute button mute button mute button. Repeat as necessary.

   Is this sinking in yet?
7. 

   A corruption of LOL
   

   Jan 18th, 2010
   

   In brightest sandbox, in blackest sim,
   No griefing shall escape my prim
   Let those who worship Woodbury’s shrine,
   Beware my AR… Green Lantern’s whine!
8. 

   Anon Reporter
   

   Jan 18th, 2010
   

   Searching the entire files I find lots of interesting things such as

   [8:48] Kalel Venkman: Pixeleen has been moving comfortably in griefers’ circles,
   and is a strong supporter of /b/tard interests. That’s why the Herald is
   essentially little more than a griefer apologia, as Samantha Lowell would put it.

   ..and there is sooo much more…
9. 

   Ulgy Blokke
   

   Jan 18th, 2010
   

   Oh, so that’s why I got hardware banned that day. And the funny part is, I don’t even associate with Woodbury/4channers. Go figure.
10. 

    Gaara Sandalwood
    

    Jan 18th, 2010
    

    4272 Script Riddler Kohaku Owatatsumi 2009-12-18 15:26:44 Sandbox Goguen Reported Skyyyyyyyyyyyyyy Yexil as being a copybot user – seems odd for a near-total newcomer to observe

    4271 Skyyyyyyyyyyyyyy Yexil Kohaku Owatatsumi 2009-12-18 15:25:33 Sandbox Goguen Script Riddler said this person was wearing copybotted items

    Wow.

    Alert: Having a new avatar and claiming things newbies normally don’t know makes you suspicious.
11. 

    Neo Citizen
    

    Jan 18th, 2010
    

    Anybody notice it’s the same dozen or so asshats posting over and over again?

    You got busted. Get over it.

    They got your wiki. Get over it.
12. 

    GreenLantern Excelsior
    

    Jan 18th, 2010
    

    @ Pixeleen

    “Apparently I have been classified as a griefer by the JLU after placing flowers for banned accounts at a memorial for the dead as part of an story on crowdsourcing grief. Do all superheros suffer from a serious irony deficit?”

    I will repost my comment of April 28, 2009 in the referenced SL Herald article:

    “As stated in the SL blog, the garden was designed “…to remember all the wonderful people we have known and loved in-world, who died in Real Life…” And as Steven Hawkeye noted in the comments, the garden is already being griefed by people entering the names of avatars who are still alive in SL just to harrass them. Placing Hunter Talon’s name in the garden is appropriate. Placing Corsi Mousehold and Tizzers Foxchase there is not.”

    Since there seems to be some confusion over griefer designations, let me explain that. When a JLU member files an Abuse Report, Linden Lab’s response email is forwarded from the member’s email program to Brainiac, and information the email header is stored there. Brainiac creates an entry for that resident that looks something like Pixeleen’s profile entry from the wiki (shown above), but with more information. Initially the “Role” is not set to anything.

    A JLU member can create an “Article” through Brainiac describing something about the resident (I’m not sure why those Articles showed up as “Incident Reports” in the list). An Article can be about anything, good or bad, and does not necessarily have an Abuse Report associated with it. For example, Articles 4338 and 4339 describe educating a resident about filing ARs. Article 4311 shows that a JLU member returned from a leave of absence. Articles 4310 and 4360 concern Haruhi Thespian, who leaked the JLU wiki information. Note Article 4306 regarding rejected JLU Applicant Seijin Roo – apparently Haruhi was next in line to apply for membership. Creating an Article about a resident doesn’t set his “Role” to anything either.

    A resident’s “Role” is set separately. A JLU member can designate a resident as a “Griefer” or an “Applicant” or a “Linden” or whatever, just as a general description to help other JLU members in the field. I have my own opinions about the Roles, which won’t be aired in this forum, but suffice it to say that a person can be designated as a Griefer without having any ARs or articles written on him.

    Now what does this mean to the average resident? Absolutely nothing. A person can cruise through Second Life, blissfully unaware of whether he has a JLU Brainiac database entry. If he’s designated as a Griefer, the only people who will know that are members of JLU. So when people approach me and ask why they’re designated as a Griefer in the leaked version of the wiki, my response from now on will be “Why do you care what some random JLU member wrote about you in his private diary?”
13. 

    corona anatine
    

    Jan 18th, 2010
    

    Member of Woodbury University – spotted at WU rented parcel

    a captial crime clearly

    suggest JLU read up on the term

    ‘mission creep’
14. 

    Ahern
    

    Jan 19th, 2010
    

    There was never a raid in ahern from any woodbury what ever.
    Woodbury is just a bunch of kids running around with 2004
    scripted objects…that btw don’t work in ahern ..ahern has
    been griefed better but a drunkin raged 16 year old then these
    tards …please don’t give these *woodbury* idiot’s any credit.lol
15. 

    Obvious Schism
    

    Jan 19th, 2010
    

    @GLE

    “4163 raziel Istmal Kohaku Owatatsumi 2009-11-23 18:22:35 Sandbox Island Extension Rezzed several freebie cars in a public sandbox”

    Um isn’t that what sandboxes are for? Why is this of interest to anyone?

    But I take your point – why am I bothered that entries like this are on the “private” JLU Wiki? Well its because it creates a culture of paranoia amongst JLU members and in the above case, falsely hints at those residents that are named on the Wiki as being troublemakers. Moreover, the hitherto private nature of this Wiki made it impossible for residents to know they were on there and hence impossible for them to be able to challenge any listing about them.

    BTW I have no connection whatsoever with raziel Istmal, I am just using this entry as an example of the type of obsessive behaviour that members of the JLU are obviously capable of.
16. 

    Tuomy Boa
    

    Jan 19th, 2010
    

    GLE, Invasion of persons privacy is still invasion of persons privacy.
17. 

    MattyK Snowpaw
    

    Jan 19th, 2010
    

    Fascinatingly Bullshit. So yeah… Apparently I’m Copyrighted by an unregisterred trademarked character in a virtual world of hypocrisy…

    …Why did I ever leave Garrys Mod. _._;
18. 

    Gaara Sandalwood
    

    Jan 19th, 2010
    

    Okay I just went back to look through the reports.

    Narcissus Mint was with me at Zeide Kamp? I don’t even know who that is.

    And sitting and talking to the self proclaimed “Goddamn Batman” Maverick is raiding?

    Eh. The more you know.

    @Neo: The same dozen or so asshats? There are a lot in their that were added for almost no reason only once or twice. Check your math.
19. 

    Senban Babii
    

    Jan 19th, 2010
    

    Why is it that the more I read about Kalel Venkman, the less I visualise “Superman” and the more I visualise “cartoon school janitor plotting against those pesky kids”? Or for those of you who are fans of the British TV series Red Dwarf, think Arnold Rimmer in series one’s episode “The End” with his notebook listing every imagined crime that Lister has ever committed against him including mutiny against the Space Corps (by treading on the toe of a superior technician), humming and being quiet 8D

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t354R6-KkoA
20. 

    Neo Citizen
    

    Jan 19th, 2010
    

    @Tuomy Boa

    That’s only true if you think Second Life is the real world.

    It’s your game character. Your game character doesn’t have privacy rights. Anybody can write anything they want to in their personal notes about any game avatar they meet. There’s a tab in every person’s profile where you can write your personal notes on any given avatar, and that’s actually stored by the server for you when you’re in game, so Linden Lab has it if they want to look.
21. 

    marilyn murphy
    

    Jan 19th, 2010
    

    it’s similar to nixon’s enemies list. i feel a bit left out that i’m not on it. i have sat and talked to people too! i know some people too! it’s unfair.
22. 

    Kiddoh
    

    Jan 19th, 2010
    

    Kalel Venkman reminds me a lot of that version of superman that wears black and white. You know, the version of superman that tends to be a real douche?
23. 

    Darien Caldwell
    

    Jan 19th, 2010
    

    “Now what does this mean to the average resident? Absolutely nothing. A person can cruise through Second Life, blissfully unaware of whether he has a JLU Brainiac database entry.”

    Except that it’s likely the person didn’t give you permission to collect data about them. This is where you guys are morally in the wrong. And it’s kind of scary and sad that you don’t see that what you’re doing is wrong. You’re just a few steps away from making George Orwell’s 1984 a reality in SL.
24. 

    Joanna Falmer
    

    Jan 19th, 2010
    

    The Stasi also had secret files on people.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stasi
25. 

    GreenLantern Excelsior
    

    Jan 19th, 2010
    

    @ Darien

    “Except that it’s likely the person didn’t give you permission to collect data about them. This is where you guys are morally in the wrong.”

    What kind of data should be protected, what permission do you think should be requested, and how would the request be transmitted? “Excuse me, sir, I noticed that you have rezzed 412 screaming lolcubes here in the Sandbox. Would you mind very much if I wrote your name down?” Is there any expectation of privacy for someone flying around and causing problems in a public sim? If you’re a member of Griefers United or whatever, do you think people shouldn’t make a note of that if it’s visible in your profile? What do you believe is immoral about writing someone’s name in a database?
26. 

    icallbullshit
    

    Jan 19th, 2010
    

    “The Stasi also had secret files on people.”

    When you start to compare this e-drama to the likes of the Stasi and emo-tions get to be sounding like Serious Business,

    then you need to have your serious head examined.

    Seriously
27. 

    JustMe
    

    Jan 19th, 2010
    

    That spreadsheet is great .. it gives me a nice list of sims to avoid .. not that I’ve ever been to any of them anyway.

    It looks like the dozen people doing the ARing hang out at those 6 or 7 sims, so all of this drama can be avoided by simply spending my time at the other thousands of sims out there.
28. 

    uk fur
    

    Jan 19th, 2010
    

    i have stood back and watched the JLU go on and when i did get a copy of what was put online i just need to say this

    DATA PROTECTION ACT UK 1984, 1988, 1998, 1999, 2000

    this stricly prohibits the gathering of any type of personal data of anyone and or anywhere

    if JLU has any data of anyone from the uk then JLU are in deep shit as this act IS reconized by the US goverment and has already seen a lot of people in the USA jailed.

    under the agreement with the usa and uk goverments it is a federal offence to gather any data and this act is being amended to include virtual worlds,

    not a lot of people relise this and also if i were anyone from the usa or any other country, check up on your personal data laws.

    since linden labs has an office in the uk, they are BY LAW to report this type of breach, if they do not Linden Labs (brighton) can face fines upto £50,000 per Breach and a possable Jail sentence.

    so it seems JLU has broken a fuck load of laws
29. 

    who
    

    Jan 19th, 2010
    

    The thing I find the most amusing is that out of all of those ARs, most were regular SL residents, while the actual griefers are so few. The JLU spins this as them winning the battle against griefing, but any actual resident of SL knows that if anything, the JLU has only made it worse by going after legitimate residents and pursuing the people on their enemies list instead of dealing with actual griefers.
30. 

    Joanna Falmer
    

    Jan 19th, 2010
    

    Nope. Kalel is not like the Stasi. Kalel is like a pathetic school janitor who wish he was as powerful as the Stasi, and who is only important in his own mind. A 54-year old looser who spends all his time policing a cartoon world, making thousands of notes like “Member of Woodbury University – spotted at WU rented parcel”… ROFL.
31. 

    Tuomy Boa
    

    Jan 19th, 2010
    

    JLU is like Texas minutemen. Fat ol yankees who sit on their lawn chairs all day and goggle around inbetween cans of beer and at the end of the day pat themselves on back and go back to their trailerparks.
32. 

    corona anatine
    

    Jan 19th, 2010
    

    Given what has been revealed about the methods of the JLU group

    can it be said that the ends justify the means?

    A question the members of JLU perhaps should ask of themselves.
33. 

    corona anatine
    

    Jan 19th, 2010
    

    would Kalel care to comment on what this was about:

    “Not actually a griefer so far as we know, the griefer designation was set so that his emergency signal would burn out.”

    surely there are a large number of avatars who are not actually griefers as far as the JLU know ?
34. 

    GreenLantern Excelsior
    

    Jan 19th, 2010
    

    @ Tuomy Boa

    “GLE, Invasion of persons privacy is still invasion of persons privacy.”

    That’s correct. But this isn’t an invasion of anyone’s privacy, so…it’s not an invasion of anyone’s privacy.

    @ JustMe

    “It looks like the dozen people doing the ARing hang out at those 6 or 7 sims…”

    @ who

    “The thing I find the most amusing is that out of all of those ARs, most were regular SL residents, while the actual griefers are so few.”

    Please note that the only Abuse Reports shown in this article are the three that were written against Pixeleen, shown in the first picture on the page. The large table below that shows Incident Reports (Articles) 4034 through 4384. These are not Abuse Reports and they have nothing to do with the Community Standards or Terms of Service. An Article is an internal JLU note about a specific SL Resident. The big table is not a list of ARs.

    @ uk fur

    “under the agreement with the usa and uk goverments it is a federal offence to gather any data and this act is being amended to include virtual worlds”

    Thanks for the information, but that is a British law, so it wouldn’t apply outside your country. It sounds like it doesn’t even apply inside your country to Second Life…yet.

    On a side note, it looks like this thread is coming to a close, since most of the comments are ad hominem attacks (“Kalel is like a pathetic school janitor,” “JLU is like Texas minutemen”) rather than discussions of the issue.
35. 

    Seijin Roo
    

    Jan 19th, 2010
    

    Irony: A 5 year old avatar with demonstratable experience and perhaps questionable group ties sits in their applicant group for over a month before finally being rejected based on those group ties. Might have been able to do great things with them.

    An 18 month old avatar sits in the applicant group for a week, and is accepted into their group. And now has done perhaps the most damaging thing to the JLU possible.

    Good judgement, there.

    As amusing as it is to think I was attempting to be some kind of mole for WU, the truth is much simpler. I’ve always kept some degree of controversial company in my time on SL. Some of these people eventually have ended up in the folds of Woodbury, Emerald, or other groups with controversy surrounding them. Group invitations are sent. I see no reason to deny, so take them. But then as more controversy builds, some group tags get hidden. I may have friends who are in Woodbury group, but that doesn’t mean I act on Woodbury interests. I may have friends who became Emerald devs, but that doesn’t mean I act upon Emerald interests. Others I’ve tangled with make the mistake of assuming group tag == group loyalty, so why would I open myself to attack from that angle again?
36. 

    Aree Lulibub
    

    Jan 19th, 2010
    

    “4035 Aree Lulibub DianaPrince Carter 2009-10-19 14:36:03 Antiquity Texas This person represents a clear and present danger to the League. Setting as Griefer”

    I guess I might pixel someone to death. Or maybe type at them dangerously.
37. 

    IntLibber
    

    Jan 19th, 2010
    

    What this is, is defamation per se and libel. Most of the information in the JLU wiki about myself is either blatantly false or misleading. This “information” about me has previously been passed to SL users by JLU members.
    For instance, the absurd claim that I “own” the Merczateers. While I am most definitely NOT embarassed to be associated with and belong to the group, there are hundreds of SL residents who know for a fact that I am NOT the owner of the group, have never claimed to be owner, and if the JLU had done even the smallest modicum of genuine research they would know this. But, they do not, and this reflects the poor quality of all the information in this wiki, including false claims of griefing by myself, Pixeleen, and other respectable SL residents.
    In my case this false, defamatory, and libelous information has impaired and damaged my business reputation and contributed to the collapse of my large land business (over $150,000.00 USD gross revenues per year). I hold Kalel, the JLU, as well as Prokofy’s similar defamation/libel, responsible, and I am pursuing my options in court.
38. 

    All Seeing Eye
    

    Jan 19th, 2010
    

    /me moves hands from the All Seeing Eye with a great flourish…

    I see endless opportunities for a new machinima show called “Secondlife Night Live”
39. 

    Imnotgoing Sideways
    

    Jan 19th, 2010
    

    Y’all’s is crazy. =^-^=
40. 

    GreenLantern Excelsior
    

    Jan 19th, 2010
    

    @ Seijin

    “Good judgement, there.”

    This was a lapse in judgment that we are addressing internally to ensure that it never happens again. And it’s nice to know you weren’t a potential mole – thank you.

    @ Intlibber

    “Most of the information in the JLU wiki about myself is either blatantly false or misleading.”

    There are many statements about you on your wiki page. I would assume that most of the information has at least some basis in fact or it wouldn’t be there. If you would point out the false and misleading statements, I will do my best to get them removed from the current password-protected wiki to ensure accuracy.

    “This “information” about me has previously been passed to SL users by JLU members.”

    I have not seen that happen. If you have names and dates it would be helpful.

    “For instance, the absurd claim that I “own” the Merczateers.”

    I found that statement in the wiki and removed it. Do you still own Badnarik and Salamis?

    “In my case this false, defamatory, and libelous information has impaired and damaged my business reputation and contributed to the collapse of my large land business (over $150,000.00 USD gross revenues per year).”

    Such a claim would need to be supported with very large amounts of high quality evidence. Unfortunately, such evidence is hard to come by on the Internet and in Second Life. For example, the JLU wiki information that’s posted on the Internet is not the same as what currently exists behind several layers of password security elsewhere. There’s no telling how much information was added or changed prior to publishing by those who stole it.

    “I hold Kalel, the JLU, as well as Prokofy’s similar defamation/libel, responsible, and I am pursuing my options in court.”

    Don’t forget to add all of the members of “The Wrong Hands” to that list, since they’re the ones who published the wiki where it could be seen by the general public and Prokofy Neva.

    @ All Seeing Eye

    “/me moves hands from the All Seeing Eye with a great flourish…

    I see endless opportunities for a new machinima show called “Secondlife Night Live”"

    Brilliant!
41. 

    Baht McMahon
    

    Jan 20th, 2010
    

    A few observations: comments without documentary or evidential substantiation are just opinions. When one makes statements against a group to show the group is flawed or misguided one needs to show the group behaves that way consistently, and that the behaviour is group policy not simply the act of a lone member or members on one or more instances. If on the other hand the groups aims are benevolent and its conduct on the whole is of a helpful nature then surely the group deserves the benefit of the doubt rather than a targeting in a mudslinging contest. If there are better ways to achieve the goals of this group, or improvements to its methods of operation then by all means put them forth. If not then perhaps one might examine what grudge is being held by the author of this expose’, or perhaps ask why the author does not go out and do the job better than the JLU, since it is obvious the author knows how easy the task can be accomplished.
    Simply my 2 lindens worth.
    Baht McMahon Garda Siochana
42. 

    whatever
    

    Jan 20th, 2010
    

    Irony: All these morons on the Herald appointing themselves police over a group of people that appointed themselves police in SL. No, not irony. Hypocrisy.

    All of you dipshits are exactly the same. So quit trying to pretend you’re something better.
43. 

    Gundel Gaukelei
    

    Jan 20th, 2010
    

    GreenLantern Excelsior wrote:
    So when people approach me and ask why they’re designated as a Griefer in the leaked version of the wiki, my response from now on will be “Why do you care what some random JLU member wrote about you in his private diary?”
    ———————————-

    Because its not private. Its not in a little book at your home under your pillow – its on the internet in a wiki (you know, that famous tool for the whole purpose of collaboration) and you do make it available to random strangers on the internet you don’t even know well, let alone in person (like the one that made all the stuff available now to almost anyone in the world – q.e.d.)

    So when I would write in my own “private” wiki false information about you being a criminal and invite your neighbors – wouldn’t you care?

    There have been references to our german Stasi above. Its right – these guys did have much greater powers, but its similar by intention and system. Systems like that are an invitation to false accusation, defamation, slander …simply put: mischief. Thats even more true, if some kind of authority (like the Lindens are in the picture of this virtual world in question) gets involved in some way.

    You JLU guys may have started this whole thing with best intentions. But such things always end the same: the cure becomes worse than the decease. Yes – griefers go on my nerves. But _you_ guys really scare me. Especially because there seems to be not the merest hint of a doubt in your doing. Don’t you realize how you turned from a list of affirmed griefers over to a blacklist of dissidents?

    Das groesste Schwein im ganzen Land, das ist und bleibt der Denunziant.
    Translation left as an excercise to the reader..
44. 

    Haruhi Thespian
    

    Jan 20th, 2010
    

    **Hey, if anyone (including JLU/LoH) wish to contact me about anything, IE questions or rage rants, through second life, I will listen/respond as best as I can.**

    “For example, the JLU wiki information that’s posted on the Internet is not the same as what currently exists behind several layers of password security elsewhere. There’s no telling how much information was added or changed prior to publishing by those who stole it.” – GreenLantern Excelsior

    This is a perfect example of how the JLU continue to deceive. There is telling how much information was added or changed (which is 0%). I have about 3 different site rips, all untampered (in an odd and unconnected format, IE links are broken). I left my username on the site rip for this purpose. I went to great lengths to have proof that I never “tampered” with the wiki. I have added to the wiki (Before the site rip mind you. The rip is exactly as it was at the time of ripping) and what I added was Incident Report #4364, under the direct command of Maverick Grunfield (which you can view in the list given above). If you would like these documents as evidence in court IntLibber, I will be happy to hand you a copy. I also have a video proving that the brainiac system can retrieve chat logs from the wiki and display it in world.
45. 

    corona anatine
    

    Jan 20th, 2010
    

    those who want to roleppaly police in Sl should remember that for the police in the first world their power comes with accountability

    the JLU appear to want to just have the power without the associated accountability to those they are pledged to serve

    the police are servants not masters
    and the servants of all not just a selected minority

    [something some of the police in UK/Europe seem to forget sometimes - but that is another matter]
46. 

    GreenLantern Excelsior
    

    Jan 20th, 2010
    

    @ Haruhi Thespian

    “I also have a video proving that the brainiac system can retrieve chat logs from the wiki and display it in world.”

    Why not post the link here so we can all see it?

    @ Gundel Gaukelei

    Rather than an Informer, I think of JLU and all the peacekeeper groups as more like a Nachbarschaft Beobachter (and I hope Google translated that correctly).
47. 

    SirLordChikkinz
    

    Jan 21st, 2010
    

    @GLE
    Informer isn’t the right word to describe the JLU I agree. But; “neighborhood observer” is also not a good term to describe them as they do not merely watch actions and report them. Although I am a griefer I have observed members of the JLU and self appointed SIM police orbiting and caging anyone under a week old in the sandbox cordova region. Greifing in an attempt to stop griefing does nothing. Even if you used such tools on anyone in our organization we could still easily grief/crash the sim, caged or orbited. The only thing that does effect is your reputation, and these new players wrongly cast as us could AR you. In light of this, the term militia is far more appropriate.
48. 

    GreenLantern Excelsior
    

    Jan 22nd, 2010
    

    @ corona

    “those who want to roleppaly police in Sl should remember that for the police in the first world their power comes with accountability”

    JLU and other peacekeeper groups make sure their members know in training that “we are not the police.” We have no power over anyone in Second Life. We are just regular residents who know how to find griefer objects and write Abuse Reports to get them removed so they don’t bother people.

    @ SirLordChikkinz

    “Although I am a griefer I have observed members of the JLU and self appointed SIM police orbiting and caging anyone under a week old in the sandbox cordova region.”

    Please post the name of the JLU member who orbited the new residents, and provide the date and time that it happened (I suspect that the details will be conveniently unavailable). JLU protocols require that members do not attack anyone under penalty of expulsion.

    I haven’t seen a lot of roleplay Police folks around, although I’ve heard that they generally have bad reputations. I have heard that the “sandbox rats” sometimes take matters into their own hands and orbit griefers to stop their griefing. I’m friends with many of the sandbox rats, and I suspect that our mutual respect keeps them from orbiting griefers while I’m around, thereby sparing me the dilemma of writing an AR on a friend.
49. 

    EsterMoy
    

    Jan 22nd, 2010
    

    Personally, I found this report priceless:

    4040 Kat Alderson Kalel Venkman 2009-10-21 03:11:06 Justice Island Approach with caution – she believes that any intellectual property not used by its original creator is infringement.

    Beware, someone might actually call you out on copyright infringement

    ———-

    Not only is JLU subject to copyright infringement, but their own wiki is subject to DMCA as they file images and posts which are copyrighted to other people on their wiki. Kalel claims that this is not subject to DMCA because it’s “private” and therefore, not “published.”

    What idiocy – That’s like saying a person who copybotted an item is not subject to DMCA so long as they keep it on a private sim where only an exclusive group allowed access to the sim can see it. It makes no difference if it’s private or public, bud, it’s still published and distributed.

    Finally, I can’t up but point out the following:

    4355 Seratuhlis Firanelli Oki Korobase 2010-01-02 10:14:05 Ashford Park Anti-furry sentiment on profile “I also support the systematic genocide of the subhuman race known as “furries”.”

    Apparently the reporter, Oki Korobase, was too busy being inflamed by the joking profile remark to look at the profile picture. Seratuhlis Firanelli IS A FURRY!
50. 

    Seijin Roo
    

    Jan 22nd, 2010
    

    “Not actually a griefer so far as we know, the griefer designation was set so that his emergency signal would burn out.”

    Oh yeah, I loved that bit too. The life of not actually being a griefer is a hard one.

    The lesson I take away from this is that group affiliation in one’s profile (especially when that affiliation is made not public) is more important than how one presents himself personally, or how much relevant experience can be shown. Based entirely on this, I am a griefer to JLU. Nice. All while I’m being told that “my skills are not a match” and I “can try out again another time”. Yeah, I knew that line was bullshit, but it took this public outing for me to learn why.

    Admittedly, until seeing that documentation I had never caught wind of this trick or treating incident at Kalel’s RL home. If that is indeed the truth (I have no idea) then I can sympathize with the paranoia. That doesn’t excuse it or make it right, but I can at least understand why it came about.

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