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34 Responses to “History of the SSG, part 2: Interview with Mia Wallace on the formation of SSG”

1. 

   Dyerbrook
   

   Dec 28th, 2003
   

   First of all, players should be warned that when they write what they think is a private e-mail to Urizenus, he will use it in an interview without asking for consent, unlike a real, scrupulous journalist. But since I don’t mind if my e-mails are published, it’s helpful to put my actual remarks about Mia to him in an e-mail into the blog, in context:

   “The Sims Shadow Government did not exist at the beginning, but what existed was Mia Wallace and her desire to buy, beg, borrow, or steal balloons. It was Will Wright himself who talked about how fun it was to have the contest of getting the balloons in the game, even buying them if you have to, so that you can get to be the most popular sim. One of the things many of us were annoyed at was the way Will Wright (Das Kapitaen in the game originally) made Mia Wallace a balloon friend, wrote something nice in her balloon, and didn’t remove it even after being bombarded with proof that she was the overlord in an evil organization. It made many of us feel that he was actually pleased that there were evil groups in the game to make it more interesting. We were happy to play that game, but then our URLs were deleted from our Sim profiles, and the SSG URLs flourished and remained in the game.”

   Note that when it says “buy beg borrow or steal” it is largely a figure of speech, like “by hook or by hook”. It doesn’t make a specific charge about Mia paying a specific price for her balloons, although I think it highly likely she could have — and who is to know or check, given the torrent of lies we hear from the SSG’s mouths, which this “journalist” Urizenus does not seem at all moved to check? Note also that my comment only notes that *Will Wright* whose Sim was one of her balloon friends, talked about buying balloons, and one of his balloons was with Mia.

   It’s hard to know where to start with this incredibly skewed history of the SSG. It’s extraordinary that Urizenus never seeks any other sources to balance the skewed representations. Fortunately, unlike the BDSM debacle, there are many bloggers giving the lie to some of these general premises right here on this website’s comments. It ought not to have come as any surprise that the SSG was based on a spoof of a “RL” SSG that appeared not after 9/11, BTW, but was on the Internet before TSO. I already told Urizenus this.

   But I am puzzled by this story of Hallowkween. For the longest time, the balloons between these two only spoke of Hallowkween almost behaving like a sub of Mia’s. Sorry if I have subs on the brain. She is a rather young girl, I think even a minor as we saw on realsims.com or whatever it’s called. So gushy were these comments between these two, with Mia calling her “my girl,” that some wondered if she was gay. If they quarrelled over the number one spot, who knew? It was all fights under the carpets.

   I’ll never forget my first visit to the Sim Sorority House. There were a lot of girls showing off saying the word “vagina” perhaps for the first time in their lives on air. It was oh, so thrilling. They were in the hot tubs, and Im’ing. It was rather dull. I didn’t come back until much, much later, when Mia unbanned me, after my lamp deliveries, merely to ridicule me.

   It’s also interesting that Mia should mention Kaliena. Kaliena isn’t here to defend herself — she left the game. It’s important to understand why Mia lists Kaleina among “griefers” but any even 10-minute-a-day player from last year knows this wasn’t the case. Kaliena mounted a significant challenge to the SSG by attempting to create a positive, interesting neighborhood called PlayTime (a name the SSG claimed as its own its history). It was a neighborhood with lots of contests and payouts. Supposedly, if you came to this neighborhood you would be safe from the SSG. But she then had her own internal quarrels, and the SSG infiltrated her anyway, as I had warned. Kaliena stood up to the SSG in ways that I could only dream of, by actually organizing hundreds of Sims, in dozens and dozens of lots with real activities providing an alternative to their silly round of balloons and gloves. So bear that in mind as you hear whatever slander Mia may produce about Kaleina. I realize there is a whole I-Hate-Kaleina click out there for other internal PT reasons. But my hat is off to her in her early period for attempting to build an alternative.

   And I, too, am included in this list of people who gave “trouble” to the SSG. Well, God bless us! But keep in mind that this “trouble” never consisted of red-lining, evil green-ballooning, pissing on lawns, putting out dirty plates, sending remote roomie invites and all the other delightful things that the Wallace Family and the associated SSG operatives did in the game.
   This trouble consisted of writing the truth and delivering lamps.

   I do recall once catching the SSG paying people to sit on lots to drive them up to the top 100 slot. I have the screenshots of that. That was back in the days when it still seemed scandalous.
2. 

   RB
   

   Dec 28th, 2003
   

   new speed record set by Dyerbrook. lol. you got 24hr watching on AVH for new stuff to comment on? lol.

   - RB
3. 

   Pinki aka Myrrh
   

   Dec 28th, 2003
   

   WOW!! Just WOW!!, the ability for some folks (Dyerbrook) to be so completley out of touch with the reality that TSO is a GAME!!, that the antics of a group of FREINDS (ssg) could be considered EVIL!! WOW!! But then I was proudly listed with some of my buddies on Dyerbrooks most wanted list, I’m probably biased a tad…..So WHAT if someone paid, begged, cybered or whatever for balloons (not that they had to) It’s a freakin BALLOON!! OMG! Get a grip! First and formost ssg is a group of friends. We play, laugh, and yes cry together. We support each other however we can and I think that unity threatens some others that are..lets say, less unified! If someone has a problem with a griefer we do what we can to help them out, simple as that. I must say though that some of the characters like Dyerbrook and Merril have given great entertainment to an otherwise pretty boring glorified chat room…I do have to thank them for that! LOL! I’m glad I’ve moved on from the sillyness of tso and people that are so bored with a boring game that they have to create huge drama to entertain themselves…Long Live SSG, the best group of friends I have ever known. Yours, Pinki
4. 

   Dyerbrook
   

   Dec 28th, 2003
   

   Gosh, Pinki, I just feel all tingly inside when you say I have given “great entertainment” (beams). Remember when I made that card that said “Whenever I think of Pinki, I wonder, ‘Where’s the Brain?” ROFLMAO. Boy, did we have fun, huh, Pinks?

   Now, OF COURSE it’s a game, duh. Sheesh, I knew that! But it is a game you need to play to the hilt, n’est pas? And I would submit that if you wanted to do the things you said really motivated you — just hang out with a bunch of friends and help each other out, you might have called yourself the “Good Neighbours’ Club” or the “Concerned Citizens of Alphaville” or just “OuR ChIlL sPoT.” Instead, gosh, you called yourself (shudders) “the Sim Shadow Government”. Silly me! That seemed sort of, oh, noir, wouldn’t you say???

   And on your web page, you not only parodied (i.e. copied word for word) the RL SSG, you created a structured, militarized, and secret organization with military and intelligence tasks. You announced publicly that your aim was to control the entire money supply, property relations, and ties to the outside world of the community. Hey! Call me an idiot, but geez, that sounded like a conspiracy, not just a bunch of girl scouts! And heck, it’s only a game, we realize that but boy, were you pretty vicious in attacking all the top lots, bullying the owners to sell or cede their property, buying out properties of “tired” Sims, using your network of some 100 or more people with all their muliple Sims, through Yahoo Messenger, to go and babysit lots and jack them up to the top 10 spot, etc. Why, this is all legal activity. But it’s a menace nonetheless, especially if you add lawn pissing, plate-leaving, gloving, etc. and all the other lovely tactics for which the SSG is known. Because you consistently lied about those things, and made innocent eyes and plausible deniability about all the attacks in Alpha, there is no way in hell that any one can buy your story of just a bunch of chillin’ girl-friends. I understand SWG gave you your own server, there are so many of you! And I’m sure you’ll swarm back to TSO when it gets boring there, or swarm on to the next game out there, hmm, would sociolotron suit you better? In any event, let this crappy hotel owner be on the record as saying: no sale. I don’t buy your bullshit, I will never delete.

   P.S. If you’re bored of TSO now, could you do me a favor and tell Charlie Dae of the SSG, whoever she is to take her glove off, or at least write some interesting red balloon text? I don’t even know her and she prevents me from making more friends, which I don’t mind, as long as she also advertises her evil among my balloons to expose the SSG. Furthermore, do you think, if you’re done with TSO, now might be a good time to recall all those evil skeletons (about 6 at last count) totally surrouding my lot who opened up properties with names like “Dead Club” and created an entire neighborhood showing up in bigger letters called “Death Becomes You” with skulls as the roof art so that whenever I come back to my house and neighborhood, I’m surrounded by death? Heck, these grim folks won’t even come over for a barbecue and give me some visitor points, as I’ve complained to you before. One of them used to send me remote roomie invites hundreds of times a day, but seems to have disappeared. They were deleted by the latest Maxis purge so, somebody is still keeping them. Oh, and I don’t know whether it’s you or Merrill (I don’t see why Merill would bother because she/he doesn’t care about neighborhood creation as you do) who placed the bug on my lot that prevents me from changing my neighborhood affiliation. If I press on my neighborhood tag, my game crashes. Maxis engineers have been studying this for months, I’ve written to them dozens of times, and no one can figure it out. Pretty clever, huh? Even when I or other family members play other Sims with different accounts in other cities *on this very same computer* the bug DOES NOT affect those lots and they can change their hoods freely. Wierd, eh? The effect is that Dyerbrook is trapped forever in his own singleton neighborhood, fondly called Dysfunction Junction, and that is where he will stay LOL. Bye for now!
5. 

   Dyerbrook
   

   Dec 28th, 2003
   

   the skels were *not* deleted in the Maxis purge so somebody is still keeping them.
6. 

   Jon
   

   Dec 28th, 2003
   

   I have been starting an underground group for a while now… the SFLM, the sims free liberation movement… We are here to stop the SSG……… Maybe I can talk to those who can help me advance. Who would be that person, or people.
7. 

   Anonymous1
   

   Dec 28th, 2003
   

   Dyerbrook, may I just make a small hint … that Perhaps all this that happened with the SSG is nothing but a figment of your imagination? How the bloody hell could SSG (Sim Shadow Government) possibly manipulate the gaming structure and interface – leading to you not being able to change your neighborhood name? Have you ever thought about all the security interfaces we would have to go through just to get into the gaming files of Maxis/TSO/Your personal portfolio of contents. My guess is that all these complaints and rumors you are spreading are from your over- hyped imagination

   Call me crazy … but what the hell does buying balloons or helping friends move up the lists truly hurt? Not saying we did – but hypothetically what does it really hurt? Yes we gloved…but dear me, I’m sorry for warning people that could initiate in future transactions with scammers that they are about to lose all there hard money…so for all those that I’ve warned by redlinking scammers with my TWO(!)accounts (not 40 Dyerbrook)… I’m truly sorry guys May your hard earned money end up in the pockets of people like JackUK, Evangeline, Buddy Rogers/Bucks Aplenty

   Also Dyerbrook, on your critisms of SSG claiming to want to control the mainstream activity in AV…Seems to me by you saying no one can buy balloons (face it, now a-days half the top 100 people have “I’ll buy balloons” on their profile) or help there friends move up lots (LOL you fool, that sorta means no one can visit lots at all) that your attempting to control the mass orginization of Alphaville from participating in such activitys that you deem “evil”. (seems to me there is no defination of evil, it is what one believes in – therefore stop answering for the whole of AV)

   As for the Kaliena aspect you mentioned – Play Time was the cover up for something she did to a good friend of many in SSG – and to more than that. Kaliena and *censored* were having a very good relationship in TSO…both were single in RL, and both (seemingly) had a RL . After a couple months being together, Kaliena invited *censored* to visit her for the holidays…After *censored* got the plans, even debated about quitting his job to be with the one “he loved”, he arrived at Kalienas home in San Diego (I believe, I may be wrong on where she lives – If I am someone please correct me – but where she lives is unimporant) and found out that Kaliena had lied about everything about her. She was 10 years older than she claimed, did not have the amazing job she had claimed, did not look anything close to what her pictures she had given *censored*. Therefore *censored* basically came close to having his real life destroyed. So *censored* came back home and went on living…this is where SSG comes into place. Kaliena went to Mia Wallace and the “higher ups” of SSG and stated her ideas of the facts – Which later came out to outbursts from the mislead SSG on redlinking *censored*. after some many talks between neutral partys who were friends with both, SSG learned they had been manipulated by Kaliena. This is when “Play Time” really shot off as a cover up for the manipulation she aimed towards SSG. Play time itself was a good neighborhood, I enjoyed living in it for 2 weeks, but I soon found out alot. Kaliena had 6 accounts, which she would sit and leave AFK with bots at her friends house to get them to the top (don’t really care much about this, although I think it’s worse than paying for people to stay, which basically is what the 15k an hour is). But she soon started taking almost all control – publicity – and compliments to herself. She demanded that Play Time had a major say in the runnings of it’s Chief partner “Fueled Radio” – Which Fueled denied her in. Once they did this, Kaliena immediatly put up links to a major source of rivalry in SimzUnderGround Radio (now Our-Radio) – leading to the break up of Fueled Radio and Play Time partnership. The contest money was made off of 6-7 sims slaving for Kalienas ambitions mazing 24/7 – While in return Kaliena barely mazed at all, yet took all the money that she was given

   (please excuse my spelling and grammar errors, this was typed fast and without much care since I am leaving in 10 minutes for the weekend)
8. 

   Waynie
   

   Dec 29th, 2003
   

   Its interesting Dyerbrook that you speak like you know the truth. You dont. You know what we wanted you to know. Simple as that.
9. 

   Dyerbrook
   

   Dec 29th, 2003
   

   Yes, you wonder how the gaming interface could be affected without inside help from Maxis, hmmm? So I pose that question. I can only report that my game is bugged, and only that account. Maxis engineers say this would be impossible to achieve as a hack. Precisely.

   Anonymous 1, where did I advocate *not* buying balloons? Huh? Go back and read my post. I described Will Wright himself talking about it, and what greater imprimatur could there be? I myself have bought or sold balloons on an occasion — those few rare balloons I manage to scrap up in between tags. If people are using map bots to coin simoleons, and using their ill-gotten millions to buy up balloons, that doesn’t make it exactly a level playing field, hmmm? So I open that up for discussion, but it is Maxis’ problem to sort out.

   I cannot at all verify all the slander laid at Kaleina’s address. Spouting such character assassination says more about the cowardly Anonymous than it does about Kaleina. I don’t know her, only talked to her a few times, and then published an essay decrying her deal with the devil in the pact between SSG and Play Time. It seems besides the point to raise things that happened with her Simmy relationship gone bad and her RL foibles. The point about Kaleina is that she tried to create an alternative to the SSG, and for that was slammed in every known and unknown way the SSG has at its disposal.

   Now look at Waynie’s comments! An admission that the SSG engages in propaganda, disinformation, and mind control efforts so that people “only know what we want you to know.” That’s rich! Keep talking!
10. 

    Pinki aka Myrrh
    

    Dec 29th, 2003
    

    I have never been more flattered!! To think I am (in part anyways) responsible for moving house after house up the top 100 list…yes I will claim responsibility for that…did it by busting my ass and playing for hours and hours on end. And to think that I bugged Dyerbrooks lot!! I am so impressed with myself I think I’ll run for President..or better yet overthrow Bill Gates and take over Microsoft!! I had no idea I was so talented! Thank you for the cheap entertainment Dyerbrook, me thinks its time you got back on your meds now. LOLOLOLOL…oh oh oh and to think that Sony Entertainment actually GAVE US our own server!!! AHAHAHAHA!! I am impressed! And why on earth would we choose some boring Mr. Rogers Neighborhood type name when we could create a parody that was oh so much more fun! Also Dyer just think how bored YOU would have been without making us your mission in your little simmy life! And yes thankyou for the fun Dyer, I look back on it and ROFL! this is my last post…respond as I’m sure you will because this stuff seems to just eat you up inside…wont matter I dont play with you anymore. Yours truly with dipkisses and all that crap, Pinki
11. 

    JC Soprano
    

    Dec 29th, 2003
    

    I have proof that Mia is very incorrect on several of her statements about me. Mia came to me, not the other way around. No one asked for protection. I helped create the Wallace family. They started the SSG becuase they could not handle the mafia life. In fact, why would I try to extort money from someone who was a friend at the time and who had just sent me a Sopranos Hockey Jersey.. The same one you see me in on the AP article. I demand someone at the AV Herald does there job correctly and gets both sides of the story before they publish libel like this.
12. 

    Ana-
    

    Dec 29th, 2003
    

    first of, Dyerbrook.. you say you know that this is just a game. don’t take everything personally. what do you care that someone bought balloons or anything?? they’re not you. no need to keep repeating and repeating all that crap. and all your stories about the SSG hitting all those houses. do you seriously seriously believe they did *ALL* that?? some of that could quite possibly be the work of some other people ya know. and as for the bug in the changing neighborhoods… that is WAY TOO farfetched. come on now, what do you think of us, stupid idiots who believe anything you say?? that is too much. why don’t you take a break from tso for a bit.. go watch a movie or something. all i can say is that you’re spouting alot of nonesense and you’re acting like what i think Mia Wallace said.. “an attention whore”
13. 

    Ana-
    

    Dec 29th, 2003
    

    or at least she described someone as being an “attention whore”

    and you people! don’t you realize he was interviewing one person and they are telling THEIR SIDE of the story! yes, it will be different from your version of it JC Soprano
14. 

    JC Soprano
    

    Dec 29th, 2003
    

    Also, if you want to see the truth behind the SSG go to our website.. http://www.thesimmafia.com Under the Paparazzi section you will find a Real Video file of the CNN interview between me and the the leaders of SSG.. Mia Wallace (2 people, 1 account). You will see the pictures of the lot jobs they did. For the record, I have only authorized 2 lot jobs in my entire career in the sims. 1 owed us money, the other was an enemy in war. The SSG is about propaganda, not truth. My website sheds the light on the Sesame Street Gangsters and there corrupt regime under Mia Wallace.

    People always assume mafia is a bad thing. Ask one in AV.. We have done nothing but good for the city. We keep the truly bad out and protect civilians in the game via the services we offer. We don’t go to anyone. They come to us. Go to our website. You’ll see. Some people need to realize this is only a game. People like Mia can’t grasp that and take things far too personally.. Ever since I called the SSG on there BS and called them the Sesame Street Gangster on live national television they have been mad. Go to our website.. Read all about us, and then watch the CNN interview. Even the reporter sees them for what they truly are.. Greifers.

    Jeremy Chase
    aka JC Soprano
    http://www.thesimmafia.com
15. 

    Dyerbrook
    

    Dec 29th, 2003
    

    Go, JC. Tell you what. You keep fighting and exposing the SSG, we’ll compare notes, and hey, after the Lightsavers Liberation Partisan Movement comes to power in AV, we’ll go easy on that RICO legislation in parliament the first 100 days. Or…how about this? No prosecutions for 180 days? OK? Deal?
16. 

    Storm
    

    Dec 29th, 2003
    

    Here’s the “helpful” services JC offers…ROFLMAO

    MEDIATION
    $2.5K per 10 minutes of mediation; Pay up front in full
    Have a dispute with another Sim? Want to work it out, but don’t want to contact them directly? Maybe your on there ignore list? Either way, let us be your messenger and try to help you work it out by offering a non-biased opinion in your dispute. We’re very effective businessmen and know how to mediate in any given situation, no matter how hostile it might be. We’ll communicate between the two of you and try to find a common ground to work out your issue as quickly as possible.

    BRIBERY
    1/4 of the bribery amount to get unbanned from lot
    Did you make someone really mad and get banned from their lot? Are you an innocent person and have no clue why you got banned? With our help and a little cash we can get you back on that property in no time flat. You tell us your monetary limit and we’ll negotiate your reentry onto that property without going over the amount you specify. If you don’t get unbanned there is no payment.

    SENDING A MESSAGE
    $2.5K to $10K; Pay up front
    Want to get your point across to someone or a group of people? Old fashion tactics not working? Try the Sim Mafia. We’re the masters of sending messages. We’ll make sure your point gets across whether it wants to or not.

    DEBT COLLECTION
    1/4 of the debt is our fee; $10K minimum debt amount; No down payment
    Someone owe you money? Having a hard time getting them to pay up? Let us try. Our patented methods are sure to give you a better chance at getting your money. Our fee may sound high, but if you get paid that’s more money than you were going to get before we got involved. If we’re unable to get your money back for some odd reason, there is no fee.

    PROTECTION
    $5K to $20K per 1/2 hour; Maximum of 2 hours; 1/2 down payment
    Piss someone off? Afraid to be home alone? Maybe you just want to look cool and have a couple of bodyguards hanging around you? Whatever the reason you may need for protection, we’re the people you want protecting you. More secretive than the Secret Service, The Sim Mafia will make sure no Sim interrupts your game play under our watch. Bodyguards also help your visitor bonus if protecting you on your lot.

    GAMBLING
    Minimum $100K bet; Maximum $1M bet
    We offer all sorts of gambling options. For more details go to ‘The Sim Mafia’ lot in Alphaville. Bet limits depend on the dealer. High rollers are always welcome. We have the dice games that people can’t get enough of.. Texas Poker, Vegas Craps, Hi-Lo, Russian Roulette, Triple X, Match Game PM, Rock Paper Scissors, and 21 and Up. Some odds are as good as 49:51. Sims have won billions playing our famous games! High-rollers only.

    ASSAULT
    $10K to $25K; 1/4 down payment
    Did another Sim beat you up? Steal from you? There are lots of reasons for wanting another Sim assaulted. Whatever your reason may be, we’re more than happy to handle the situation for you. We have several ‘mean’ options available and muscle with high body ratings to bring the victim’s social, fun, energy, hygiene, and hunger down until they pass out or logout.

    HIT
    $100K to $250K; 3/4 down payment
    Want to take a Sim out of the picture? Maybe you want to make sure that Sim never messes with you again? A Hit is something that we cannot discuss on this website or in-game. Let’s just say we take the victim out of the picture for a few days to think about what they have done. Unlike raids, hits are very clean and effective and a great way to remain anonymous if you want to. Our fees are high for this service, but we’re very good at what we do. Call us Murder, Inc.
    PROSTITUTION – FORMER SERVICE
    $2.5K per 10 minutes; 20 minute limit; 1/2 down payment
    Want to get laid tonight? Like being talked dirty to? Maybe you like to be the one talking dirty? Whatever your fetish is we have the woman for you. We have some of the hottest lipped Sims in Alphaville to please you and tickle your fancy. ID’s are checked on every visitor to our brothels… No, you may not bring a note from your mother saying it’s OK. And remember.. NO ABUSING OUR WOMEN UNLESS THEY ASK YOU TO.

    RAID – FORMER SERVICE
    $50K to $100K; 3/4 down payment
    Want to hurt someone’s business? Want to send a message? A Raid consists of a crew or several crews coming onto a property and slapping around a few of the customers to let them know how you feel. Once we’re done with the customers we go after the intended target and assault him in front of all his lot’s visitors. Raid’s can get messy and are rarely done. For this reason, we require 1/2 down payment if we decide to take the job on. Keyword is if.

    Very truly helpful JC…Looking back I don’t see a damn thing I would consider helpful Where is the protecting people from scammers, helping those in need move up the lists.(Oh yeah Dyerbrook, be happy, they don’t sell balloons LOLOL
17. 

    Harvey
    

    Dec 30th, 2003
    

    ROFL… get a bunch of Sims to chip in on a hit on Voleur (or whatever her name is these days…).

    I’d contribute… : )
18. 

    JC Soprano
    

    Dec 30th, 2003
    

    Obviously you missed the section that also says we will not harrass innocent Sims and we investigate all claims by our customers before we do anything. Basically, the people who come to us have been wronged in game by someone else and we help solve the situation. Simple as that.

    JC Soprano
    http://www.thesimmafia.com
19. 

    Storm
    

    Dec 30th, 2003
    

    sounds like SSG JC – yet we are the evil ones and you aren’t…hmmmm
20. 

    JC Soprano
    

    Dec 30th, 2003
    

    This forum isn’t an arguement over who is right. The truth will be published soon. All I will say is the main difference between our two groups is we target those who have it coming and know that they have it coming.

    JC Soprano
    http://www.thesimmafia.com
21. 

    Cheshire
    

    Dec 30th, 2003
    

    I see alot about Mafia Families and claims of being the true Family in Sims. I see JC and know of him being there in the very begining during Beta. He was not alone in forming the Mafia in Sims. No where do I see him or anyone giving credit where credit is long over due. Big Italy. The real truth will include this man, he was as much responsible for Mafia as Jc. I, in no way, am disrspecting JC. He took the Mafia to great heights. I just think with all of the claiming to be the true creator, lets hear the whole story.
22. 

    JC Soprano
    

    Dec 30th, 2003
    

    Yes, Big Italy helped me create the Sim Mafia. It was mine and HER idea. Unfortunantly, 2 weeks into it Big opted to choose a woman over the family life and had to be dealt with. So 2 weeks in the family I would not say Big did a whole lot with anything involving the family. Italy may have been a co-founder of the group, but Italy did nothing with it. So in regards to Italy getting credit that’s long over do.. Go back read the Sims Stratics Interview (on our website), this stuff has all been covered. I gave him credit as a co-founder, but as far as I am concerened that’s all the credit Big Italy has coming.

    Don’t worry I didn’t take offense to what you said.. Everyone is entitled to there opinion and unless no one asks questions or just questions things in general, the truth is always left to assumptions. =)

    JC Soprano
    http://www.thesimmafia.com
23. 

    Storm
    

    Dec 30th, 2003
    

    I have proof that Mia is very incorrect on several of her statements about me. Mia came to me, not the other way around. No one asked for protection. I helped create the Wallace family. They started the SSG becuase they could not handle the mafia life. In fact, why would I try to extort money from someone who was a friend at the time and who had just sent me a Sopranos Hockey Jersey.. The same one you see me in on the AP article. I demand someone at the AV Herald does there job correctly and gets both sides of the story before they publish libel like this.

    Posted by: JC Soprano at December 29, 2003 05:03 PM

    uh huh – You certainly aren’t fighting over who’s right and who’s wrong *rolls eyes*
24. 

    Aangell
    

    Dec 31st, 2003
    

    OMG! I love all these old memories!!!
25. 

    Storm
    

    Dec 31st, 2003
    

    and my last comment before I go out and enjoy my new year – I would like to just remind JC that Uri was planning on interviewing you – you on the other hand got all in his face telling him he would interview you or else – and in return Uri got sick of you and didn’t interview you right away =D Remember Jeremy … Patience is a virture
26. 

    JC Soprano
    

    Dec 31st, 2003
    

    Once again.. SSG has to try to get the last word in.. Like a typical child. Anyway, think what you want.. Nothing has been delayed, if anything it was hurried up. You got’s no clue as to what’s going on as usual Andy. You think your in the know, but your on the outside. Get a life, you need one. Let’s not forget who was having a hard time realizing Yahoo harrassment is not part of the game and had to be told off by the SSG leader as well as reported to Yahoo to knock his stuff off. It’s people like you that cannot decipher the difference between TSO and real life and make the game unenjoyable for others and it’s players like you that ruined SSG. The SSG at a point was actually a decent group that I respected very much. The more you talk Storm, the more your maturity level and ignorance comes out. Maybe you should just stop while your ahead. At this point I am not even gonna reply back to your comments, it’s a waste of my time, especially when I am 26 and have a life outside of TSO, unlike some. So if you want to sneak in that last word again and prove your age, feel free.. I’m done at this point with ya.
27. 

    Storm
    

    Dec 31st, 2003
    

    Hey Jeremy – May I just make a point that you were the one that got the last word in hehe?

    no more childish taunting for me…for real this time Good job on the interview Uri
28. 

    Jinjo
    

    Jan 1st, 2004
    

    Heh, well I know firsthand that the ssg is a load of crap. Look at the no-mafia neighborhood they put up in a couple of days. Like they didnt pay people and use temp accounts to do that. We all know SSG is just a coverup for a mafia that has a grip on the city. Thats all they are is a big mafia that thinks they can outsmart us by telling us they are for the good of alphaville, Or by telling us they are just “A group of friends”. Well Ive met a lot of ssg and they all seem like backstabbers to me. With the exception of Tommy Morta that is.
29. 

    storm
    

    Jan 1st, 2004
    

    uhm Jingo – not going into taunts or insults…just facts…but isn’t that exactly what Twitty did?
30. 

    Jinjo
    

    Jan 1st, 2004
    

    Sure twitty did that, only after the ssg did it first though. Not that im saying twitty was a great leader anyways. The minute I leave for a vacation or something hed always have things screwed up somehow. I admit my partnership with twitty was pretty stupid. But it wasnt like I had a whole lot of options…
31. 

    urizenus
    

    Jan 1st, 2004
    

    Speaking of Twitty, where is that little deviant? Haven’t seen him around for ages.
32. 

    Jinjo
    

    Jan 1st, 2004
    

    Well he sent and email to my friend nymphadora tonks the other day. According to him he is in mexico and is in some “Satanic Gang” *Rolls eyes*. But honestly I think his “Mommy” grounded him. He lies so much I dont know when to believe him.
33. 

    Dyerbrook
    

    Jan 2nd, 2004
    

    Well, lo and behold, that neighborhood “Death Becomes You” which has haunted me for like six months has poofed. Those skeleton Sims that were all around me with all those cheerful names about bones and death and killing and so on are all gone. I can’t imagine why, but I guess it’s because Pinki loves me. Oh, they aren’t gone completely, because there’s still *one* last holdout from the “Death Becomes You” neighborhood with a lot that is wittily called “I Eat Babies” urging people to stop by his lot and help him er, eat little babies. You know, that sort of thing actually seems a little bit *over the top*. I never press the complaint button on things like that. But I just hold that out as an example of the SSG’s sense of humor and point out that really, if you want to finish this good deed of dismantling the “Death Becomes You” neighborhood, this guy really out to be given a nudge.

    Oh, but in the vacuum left by the disappearance of all those skeletons, there is now the cheerfully-monikered “BDSM Recruiting Station” which is designed deliberately as a harassment lot and a spoof lot to taunt Dyerbrook. Laff riot, kids!
34. 

    Yeah Right
    

    Jan 2nd, 2004
    

    I’m just glad that the SSG is dead and has moved on to other galaxies. And Ana, are you just new to TSO or that stupid? I would say stupid and uninformed about what realy goes on in TSO. SSG is now run by a handfull, at best, of 13 yr olds that have no idea what they are defending. I could go on forever, but the SSG is dead, so why keep whipping the dead horse, eh?

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