Interview with Aurora Ivy: What happens when good kids fall in with bad sims!
by Alphaville Herald on 23/12/03 at 7:53 pm
The past few weeks there have been rumors floating around Alphaville that Aurora Ivy was an avatar run by Evangeline. I am now in a position to categorically say that she is not Van. At least a dozen sims have come forward to vouch for her. Everyone affirms that she is a sweet 13 year old kid who has been in the game for over a year. She *did* however, briefly fall in with Evangeline and was pressured into participating in one of his scams. In this interview Aurora Ivy explains how she fell into Evangeline?s orbit and participated in one of his scams, talks about what she saw at Free Money For Newbies, and talks about life as a 13 year old on the mean streets of Alpha.
Aurora Ivy:
So what is the interview about?
Urizenus:
Oh, what it’s like to be a kid in alphaville
Aurora Ivy:
But umm Im not exactly a kid
Urizenus:
how old are you?
Aurora Ivy:
13
Aurora Ivy:
Theres alot of 13′s in AV
Urizenus:
really?
Urizenus:
do you know a lot of them?
Aurora Ivy:
Yup I’ve met over at least 15
Urizenus:
wow
Aurora Ivy:
I?ve even met 11′s and 10′s year olds
Urizenus:
What are some of the hassles you guys run into?
Aurora Ivy:
…Umm being misunderstood, for 1
Aurora Ivy:
But as for that I dun think I?ve ran into many hassles
Urizenus:
well, people thought you were evangeline…
Aurora Ivy:
That makes me angry
Urizenus:
how did that happen?
Aurora Ivy:
Ok ok Ill tell the whole truth =(
Urizenus:
ok
Aurora Ivy:
Nick or lilith’ ?
Aurora Ivy:
Had received a message from Voleur [Evangeline]
Aurora Ivy:
She asked him if he would ask me if i wanted to do one of her stunts
Aurora Ivy:
So i accepted cuz i was bored
Urizenus:
does he live with her?
Aurora Ivy:
..Not no more
Urizenus:
but he did?
Aurora Ivy:
ya he did
Aurora Ivy:
They turned on each other
Urizenus:
oooh
Aurora Ivy:
I got interested in voleur when he did [live with her]
Urizenus:
ic
Aurora Ivy:
But anyways so the plan was i would be her bait
Aurora Ivy:
And i would act like i won 5mill
Aurora Ivy:
I guess she was ONLY being nice to me cuz i was his [lilith?s] friend
Urizenus:
so you met evangeline/voleur, and she was nice to you?
Aurora Ivy:
She backstabbed me
Aurora Ivy:
But besides that
Urizenus:
how did she backstab you?
Aurora Ivy:
Complicated
Urizenus:
we have time (or I do)
Aurora Ivy:
ya but its really stressing
Aurora Ivy:
After i pretended to win 5mill
Aurora Ivy:
I soon took the “OMG i won 5mill at voleurs” right off my bio and went back to things as usual
Aurora Ivy:
I didn’t think anyone would care
Urizenus:
what did you get for doing that?
Urizenus:
(for putting it in your bio)
Aurora Ivy:
Umm nothin
Aurora Ivy:
Except people believe this lie
Urizenus:
so why did you do it
Aurora Ivy:
I dunno cuz at first i thought it would be coool
Aurora Ivy:
But then it turns out It wasn?t all it got me was in a big lie
Urizenus:
did you think it was cool to be in with evangeline?
Aurora Ivy:
No i would just hang at her house
Aurora Ivy:
I never would LIVE there or SCAM
Urizenus:
was it fun to hang there?
Aurora Ivy:
Ya a lil despite all the people bein called ugly
Aurora Ivy:
But I think Skull sims [sims with skulls for heads] , well lets just say I dun like those things
Urizenus:
well, what was that like, watching newbies being slapped and called ugly and being scammed?
Aurora Ivy:
Well It was really mean
Aurora Ivy:
But i mean its just a game
Urizenus:
did you feel bad for the newbies?
Aurora Ivy:
I was a newbie once
Aurora Ivy:
I had been treated like that in EJ
Aurora Ivy:
So i know the feeling even i was scammed when i was new
Aurora Ivy:
But ya
Aurora Ivy:
=( its not cool to make others feel bad I mean some people get that enough in RL
Urizenus:
so you just sat and watched the scamming and abuse?
Aurora Ivy:
Yes…
Aurora Ivy:
And I regret that now
Urizenus:
did you watch van and Celestie lock newbies in the freezer?
Aurora Ivy:
..I never saw that?
Aurora Ivy:
Did she really do that
Aurora Ivy:
I saw her once put someone in 4 walled room with no door
Urizenus:
that’s the freezer
Urizenus:
I saw her cage a black sim and call her a monkey.
Aurora Ivy:
…Dang that is cruel racism ICK so rude and evil
Urizenus:
what about the way black sims were treated.
Aurora Ivy:
I never saw that
Aurora Ivy:
Soon my friends were pleading me not to go there so now I no longer go there
Aurora Ivy:
I wasn’t there ALL the time
Urizenus:
Let’s talk about other things you’ve seen in Alphaville. what are some places you’ve been to that gross you out.
Aurora Ivy:
…Uhh I see lots of places and they usually always have this word…
Aurora Ivy:
*Sex*
Aurora Ivy:
That very much grosses me out that much of the game is this
Urizenus:
how do you get in those place?
Aurora Ivy:
lol I don’t go to them at all really i popped in some once or twice just to see
Urizenus:
ic, and they didn’t interest you
Aurora Ivy:
Pfft Im 13 Do u think I’m gonna be a young whoar NO!
Aurora Ivy:
of course not
Urizenus:
LOL, same goes for your other friends that are 13?
Aurora Ivy:
I dunno what goes threw their minds
Urizenus:
so where *do* you hang out (besides evangeline?s)
Aurora Ivy:
I don’t go there anymore i hope her house dies
Aurora Ivy:
But I skill and stuff like that
Urizenus:
so you go to regular skill places.
Aurora Ivy:
I go to money houses and skill houses so ya
Aurora Ivy:
Yup
Urizenus:
is that it, do you get bored ?
Aurora Ivy:
ya but you always have good people to chat with
Urizenus:
true… Like Polie!
Aurora Ivy:
So not really then sometimes i watch TV and move the mouse every 5 minutes
Urizenus:
lol, when skilling?
Aurora Ivy:
yes
Urizenus:
have you thought about playing other online games?
Aurora Ivy:
No
Urizenus:
you like this one?
Aurora Ivy:
Yes I do
Aurora Ivy:
I have a collection of every offline sim game
Urizenus:
oooh,
Urizenus:
what things about the game tso don’t you like?
Aurora Ivy:
uhh
Aurora Ivy:
Some people for starters
Urizenus:
like who?
Aurora Ivy:
SOme misunderstand me and some are rude and if i said the wrong thing by accident some would just go off like a fuse
Urizenus:
do they yell at you?
Aurora Ivy:
n Some believe rumors about things that aren’t true
Aurora Ivy:
I mean look at my web do i have any tags NO! accept Zipper but he was angry at a friend and tagged me
Urizenus:
that’s good!
Aurora Ivy:
pfft im always the bait for sumthin
Urizenus:
what do you mean by that?
Aurora Ivy:
Because i am used by other people
Urizenus:
like Van?
Urizenus:
who else uses you?
Aurora Ivy:
Like ill get tagged
Aurora Ivy:
And people will say they won’t remove it till a friend gives them their money
Urizenus:
oooh
Aurora Ivy:
lol not as in USE my account
Urizenus:
so they hold you hostage with a tag
Aurora Ivy:
Yes some people do
Aurora Ivy:
But I have no tags now ( i dun count zipper) ^_^
Urizenus:
Aurora Ivy:
But about the van thing Im soo not her Im nicer than her I have never scammed
Aurora Ivy:
And plus I would have tags and nasty comments [if I did]
Aurora Ivy:
Oh ya n also i would be able to rap about stupid things
Urizenus:
yes, a lot of people vouched for you and said you were good.
Aurora Ivy:
=’) aww that is so sweet
Aurora Ivy:
Its things like those that i like about this game
Aurora Ivy:
But 1 thing is i think the voleur thing is cleared up now
Urizenus:
Do you and the other 13&14 year old players get together and talk about problems you have in the game?
Aurora Ivy:
Uhh Nope
Aurora Ivy:
I usually talk about RL stuff
Urizenus:
so you don’t hang with them?
Aurora Ivy:
Huh what u mean by hang?
Urizenus:
so you talk about RL problems? by hang I mean chat.
Aurora Ivy:
Ahh yes I chat with my 13 year friends on here
Urizenus:
so that must be nice
Aurora Ivy:
yes =)
Aurora Ivy:
Like if I was sick or if someone in RL stole my money or RL things like those
Urizenus:
you would talk about that with your friends here?
Aurora Ivy:
Yep
Urizenus:
tha’s cool
Urizenus:
those are my questions. anything else you wanna say to the people of alphaville?
Aurora Ivy:
Oh ya
Aurora Ivy:
“People of AV Im not Voleur for one Cuz I have been here since 2002 and have been nice ALOT and also ^_^ I’m always here for new people”
Urizenus:
no more hanging out at Free Money for Newbies?
Aurora Ivy:
lol Free Money for Newbies can Burn!!!
Aurora Ivy:
I think its cruel what they do
Aurora Ivy:
Locking people up and slapping and scamming
Aurora Ivy:
So No more hanging with them hopefully if everyone in AV stops going there we won?t have this problem
Urizenus:
Thanks Aurora!
urizenus
Dec 27th, 2003
Guys, so far I’ve only had to delete one post on this site and that was an add for viagra. I don’t wanna have to start deleting real posts. Now I know you guys are young so I’m cutting you some slack and I also understand that there are a lot of emotions to vent here and you really don’t have any other place to vent, but can you do me a big favor and cool your jets for a day or two? OK? No one gets a prize for getting the last word in, so don’t worry about that either.
Or at least change the subject and tell us about sneaking into 18+ lots or something.
Shadow Boy
Dec 27th, 2003
Lol Uri, alright, well I went ot dinner and I’m chilled…dunno about Annon though…*thinks in confusion*..I sneaked into a 18+ lot once
FedUp
Dec 27th, 2003
OK, let’s say there’s a kid who constantly lies, for MONTHS. Then one day starts telling the truth. Do you believe them? No. That is where I stand when it comes to everyone who has ever lived on Evangeline’s lot, or anyone who has spent numerous hours there and won a 5 Million Sim Dollar contest, a contest I KNEW Aurora would win after witnessing her conduct for weeks prior. The way she went to various other welcome lots close to bumping Free Money For Newbies from the Number One slot trying to get people to leave them, trying to get people to buy a house she said she never owned or stated later was full of bugs (so you would sell a bugged lot to some unsuspecting sim? That’s rather nice of you…not.) I will give Aurora this, it was fun for a while following her around, watching how her profile emulated that of Evan and every other one of his sims or how it changed every two seconds just like Evans. How they always seemed to be on the same lot, because we all know it’s easier to control two sims at once if they are on the same not TOO busy lot, which Free Money never really was.
I also find it beyond hilarious how children love to use the harsh, or moronically sexual language (This aint Penthouse Forum boys) language because they do not bother looking for a thesaurus, or bother just sing their minds.
I came to the conclusion recently that TSO really isn’t for those of us over the legal drinking age. Sure it’s enjoyable, but it’s become a hangout for kids to yell words they’d be slapped for saying out loud in real life. Or taking advantage of new people playing the game who don’t quite understand the ropes because girls won’t talk to them, let alone date them in real life. Whatever your reasons are for doing this Evan, I can’t nor do I even want to imagine the real you, if it’s anything like the person you portray in game.
Patiently waits for some infantile responce from the above mentioned jerk….
And Aurora…just stay away from the above mentioned jerk, his cronies and or other sims and stay a good trustworthy sim and you won’t have to worry about anyone believing you are him. This being from one of your biggest disbelievers.
evangeli ne
Dec 27th, 2003
does anyone understand? I run this game? do you think i care aBOUT BEING NUMBER 1 IN welcome? when im good and ready ill make up a contest and be number 1 in day..yawn..you people dont understand all my followers
Van..
Dec 27th, 2003
Why is it lately?
These jealous hoes gotta hate me
Newbies won’t give me no space
They suffocate me
I try to be myself haters won’t let me
They’d rather sweat me
Ice, freeze, and briget me
But I ain’t impressed with your hot car
Nigga I ain’t got the lock jaws
I ain’t fixin’ to drop draw’s
These newbies chase me like a cop-cop
In and out the char’ bottle
They wanna all get with a hot star
They offer me grands for one night stands
Fuck that one night plan
RB
Dec 27th, 2003
Talk about sim trash, jeeze. What does this site say? Alphville Herald OR Jerry springer on the net?
go someone else with your ranting and raving and personal vendettas against each other you bums.
Utter utter disgrace.
- RB
Shadow Boy
Dec 27th, 2003
OK FedUp, you seem to be another person who thinks Aurora is Van. Obviously you did not read my post. You can believe what you wish, that’s free will which I can’t interfere with, but before making accusations, try to be at LEAST 99.9% positive. Sure, Aurora LIKED to hang out at Van’s lot alot. Sometimes when it was calm, it was a nice place to be. Sometimes. So she changed her bio very often, plenty of people do. So she went to other welcome lots that were about to bump Free Money For Newbies. Maybe she likes welcome lots? Did any of this ever cross your mind? And don’t tell me I’m wrong either. I’m speaking my mind. So she got a lot full of bugs that she didn’t know had bugs in it. People make mistakes. And it seems you just made quite a few of them in posting that.
-Shadow Boy
Shadow Boy
Dec 27th, 2003
OH! BTW! So I lived at Van’s lot for A month, and told many lies, used vulgar language, and denied people some money. Then I started telling the truth. So? I changed my ways. Problem? Deal with it. Do you really think that you’re going to walk into someone’s lot, and instantly be handed half a million bucks? Well let’s see here..let’s say I’ll go to your house. Will you hand me half a million bucks? No. While it’s true this is a virtual reality game, there is some influence of reality in it. Some more noticable than the rest. While this is not a very noticable portion of that influence, it is there. Again, this is jusr another example of someone who can not just drop a topic. But whatever.
-Shadow Boy
Paul "Phinehas" Schwanz
Dec 27th, 2003
RB> “What does this site say? Alphville Herald OR Jerry springer on the net?”
Hehe. Now isn’t that an interesting question. To me, it kinda says both. But I suppose when you have the guy that’s running the place (who is supposed to be some sort of reasercher with journalistic integrity) making wild, unfounded allegations based on hearsay and then insisting they are “categorically” true, it is hard to take the site seriously.
The ironic thing is, now that he’s made such a big stink about Maxis’ “censorship,” it is going to be difficult to clean up his own sty without coming accross as a hypocrit.
Ain’t free speech grand?
–Phin
kale
Dec 27th, 2003
Mr. Schwanz,
I’m not sure what your particular problem is….you have repeatedly called our research crap in a number of forums and if it tickles you to do so, by all means, live it up! (Free speech *is* grand). Although it’s obvious to me that you do enjoy ragging on Uri, me, and the Herald and the job being done here (and if I have any say in the grand scheme, such will remain your constitutional right), Peter has publicly thanked you for your input. What more can he do? You offer no positive proposals to make the research better, and I dare speculate that although Uri never bitches about the work he’s doing, can you even *fathom* what it takes to hold down two appointments at a top university, deal supremely with those administrative and teaching functions, have some semblance of a personal life and run an on-line blog (single-handedly and without pay)? If you have *the* magical way to navigate these fairly uncharted waters, I for one would love to hear *that.* As to Uri’s “integrity”— he’s never boasted that he is pure integrity, at least not in my field of vision. Speaking from my own personal knowledge of Uri’s character, though, I’d like to call you on that one (respectfully, and in the name of “free speech”). Running around posing as different characters and knockin’ on our project— is that’s your idea of integrity? I’ll pass, but thanks just the same.
Thank you, Uri; thank you for not adopting *that* brand of integrity. I’d have to jump board if you did.
Stephanie Stewart
Dec 27th, 2003
I am so glad this article was brought up.I was always wondering really about the Simoleans.
And whoever stands up for Van,wake up.
She is just a little insecure brat that puts down other sims to make her self esteem rise just a little bit.
*So what if I take this game serious,this is My Second Life!*
syl
Dec 28th, 2003
IF YOU REALLY WOULD LIKE TO GET RID OF RIZZO EVAN GRANNIE CELES ETC……… HAVE ACTUAL TSO MEMBERS PETITION TO CANCEL ACCOUNTS I’M SURE IF HE HAS MORE THAN 20 AND 100 RESPOND TO CANCEL THEY’D TAKE THE 100 FOR FEAR OF MONEY LOSS, URI TRY HAVING SIMS SEND IN E MAIL AND EXPLAIN THEY WILL CANCEL IF SHE /HE /GENDER CONFUSED , IS NOT REMOVED
syl
Dec 28th, 2003
BY THE WAY i WONT SAY WHAT I KNOW DUE TO PEOPLE ACCESSING MY IP ADDY I READ ABOVE BUT MY FIRST TIME POSTING IF YOUD LIKE TO CHECK BUT FIGURED IF YOUD ADVERTISE CANCELING MAXIS WOULD HAVE TO TAKE A STAND , I WILL NOT POST HERE AGAIN FOR FEAR PEOPLE WHO CHECK IP ADDYS I JUST KNOW ALOT MORE THAN SOME KNOW ABOUT A CERTAIN SIM NAMED HERE!
RB
Dec 28th, 2003
Don’t be an idiot. Only the admins of this site can get your IP address from your posts. Your paranoid.
- RB
Aurora Ivy
Dec 28th, 2003
Ok I just got on my PC real quick Im still in Virginia =( Omg After reading this all I didn’t even know half of Alphaville Hated me this much I never EVER knew this. =( I guess I should have never came into the lives of everyone else I feel so ashamed at all this *People of Alphaville I really wanna say Im sorry please forgive me all for hanging with evangeline =( if you all don’t I understand I guess it also comes in RL that not everyone will ever like you* =’( I just hope you all do forgive me =’( I never ever wanted to make people this angry n’ NO im not evangeline cause she can’t even say a *SORRY* if she tried!!
-from sad aurora ivy
Aurora Ivy
Dec 28th, 2003
Ok I just got on my PC real quick Im still in Virginia =( Omg After reading this all I didn’t even know half of Alphaville Hated me this much I never EVER knew this. =( I guess I should have never came into the lives of everyone else I feel so ashamed at all this *People of Alphaville I really wanna say Im sorry please forgive me all for hanging with evangeline =( if you all don’t I understand I guess it also comes in RL that not everyone will ever like you* =’( I just hope you all do forgive me =’( I never ever wanted to make people this angry n’ NO im not evangeline cause she can’t even say a *SORRY* if she tried!!
-from sad aurora ivy
Aleson Natson
Dec 28th, 2003
Aurora Ivy,
I forgive you.Evangeline is just a cruel person and soon her empire shall fall.
Don’t be sad,just rebuild from where you are.And no everyone doesn’t hate you,just a little upset.
Everything will be ok And if yah ever need anything look me up: Aleson
Aurora Ivy
Dec 28th, 2003
I wish I could beleive thayt aleson =’( But I can’t You cannot speak for all of AV and tell me they don’t hate me. I’m glad you forgive me but I have hurt all of AV and I guess I should have never ever came to the game if this is what happens. And theres nothing you *can* do for me all I want is be forgiven by AV.
Aurora Ivy
Dec 28th, 2003
I really should say why I came to this game.
I came to the Sims Online to chat with people all over the world forgetting that not everyone is gonna be nice to me like in the real world. I came to this game and made lots of friends =) which I am glad to have made yes I made some ememys but you know the 10 comandments *sorry if i didn’t spell it right* say umm i think its the 5th one says “Love yer enemy” and the 2nd one?? i think says “Treat others as you would like to be treated” I have 1 comment for this one I guess you all hate me and call me someone Im not cause I must have done the same to you *I want to say to this* I have never made something this big about someone if I thought someone was somebody else who had hurt me I would for sure never have pulled this and tried to Hurt them.. as for love yer enemy well right now you all wanna be my enemy but i will STILL treat and respect you all…
Sad Aurora Ivy-
Xan
Dec 29th, 2003
Three things…. #1… The house in question, Free Money For Newbies, in my opinion should be closed. The owner has been tagged so many times that in of itself should alert Maxis that there is a problem there. But… Maxis wont’ close it because they simply do not care. So it’s up to the rest of us to simply stay away from it and try to keep newbies away from it so it loses it’s #1 status and falls off the lists.
#2… Maxis likes it’s money and in my opinion really doesn’t care one way or another what anyone does while on the game or how old they are while they’re doing it. They may suspend the token account here and there to make themselves feel like they’re enforcing rules but honestly… they like that $10 a month and aren’t going to lift a finger to risk losing it for any sort of valid reason.
#3… Mazes/Economy. I’ve heard it said that the reason Maxis disabled mazes was because the people who were using them were ruining the economy by selling money on Ebay etc and the people who weren’t mazing were complaining, but I ask you… who was buying the money to begin with? I say the very same people who were complaining about the people who were making it. In addition… Maxis, introduces rare animals… which everyone wants… and which are so rare it takes 10′s of millions of dollars to get one. So without people making and selling money the average sim doesn’t have a prayer of ever owning one. To this I tell Maxis… I pay my $10 a month. Let me make, or not make, my money the way I want to and as I see fit. You don’t care about anything else, why care about this? Seems to me that by disabling mazes all those people who were using software to maze for them won’t need all those extra accounts they bought for that purpose. And if they don’t need all those extra accounts you lose money. So what’s the big deal? You make everything so expensive the average sim can’t get it without buying money or using illegal software to get it anyway. I mean really… $9k for a pair of pajamas??
RB
Dec 29th, 2003
So totally agree with everything the above said in his/her ” 3# ” section.
Hell i don’t even have enough money to freely *help* people out by moving thier existing money to other cities anymore cause those bastards removed Maze. They have not only stopped selling tempory but also a good decent honest helper service as well.
- RB
RB
Dec 29th, 2003
above *person said………………
Paul "Phinehas" Schwanz
Dec 29th, 2003
Candace, you know, if you hadn’t decided to call your crap research, I wouldn’t feel at all obligated to be here pointing out that your research is crap. I didn’t come over here to AH out of the blue. On the contrary, you guys came to Terra Nova, a site that is deserving of the research label, and began spouting your drivel, most of which is clearly motivated by Peter’s pique over having gotten himself banned.
Until then, you guys weren’t even on my radar. If you’d really like to drop of my radar again, then quit trying to foist your virtual Jerry Springer show off as something legitimate.
In addition, I’m hardly “running around posing as different characters.” This is just more of your typical unfounded allegations and smear-like tactics. My real name and email address is included in every single one of my posts, save for the two I posted with the obvious intention of making a point about annonymity–a point both you and Peter seem determined to ignore in favor of slander. As before, I’ve freely admitted that both the comments from sim1 and sim2 were posted by me. It was never my intention to hide it. I intended it to be obvious from the beginning. I’ve retracted the statements and also apologized for any harm the comments could have caused to Aurora Ivy, though I seriously doubt they really had any effect.
Yes, Uri could indeed learn something from this sort of integrity. He still refuses to take back the slanderous and pattently untrue allegations he made about Brekkee addmitting to not enforcing the Stratics ROC when she in fact denied exactly this. Her denial is plain to see in black in white, although you will have to wade through a PM conversation rife with Peter’s ludicrous threats, cajolings and immature tantrums in order to get to them.
–Phin
kale
Dec 29th, 2003
Mr. Schwanz,
I don’t want to waste anymore time on this, so I may leave room for thoughtful and pertinent commentary. Your feelings on this matter are quite obvious. I may point out that Terra Nova is indeed an excellent blog and Peter didn’t simply post his own opinions on there or try to pass himself off as anything other than what he is— I believe he was trying to add to the discussion about the site that had been started by a moderator. As yet, I don’t see any positive comments forthcoming from you about ways to improve the site and as I said, there’s really no point in my engaging in dirt-slinging. It’s a yawn. We simply disagree. Indeed, I said some may see our research as crap. Maybe we should consider re-naming our blog header with “Don’t buy or sell: it’s crap” (a Replacements’ rip-off, but I doubt they’d mind) to make you happy. So, rest assured that opinion is *sufficiently* noted (and noted, and noted once more). You can consider yourself relieved of your “obligation” on that front, but if you feel the need, by all means, do persist and best wishes.
Paul "Phinehas" Schwanz
Dec 30th, 2003
Ms. Bolter,
I consider integrity in journalism to be a subject deserving of thoughtful and pertinent commentary. I don’t consider striving for such a waste of time. This blog could actually become a respected source of news in virtual worlds and it is my sincere hope that it does. Instead, it has demonstrated a decided slant toward sensationalism, opting for headlines that include things like “Sexy Jesus,” or “Bondage Discipline & Sadomasochism” or “Child Cyber-Prostitute.” Actually, some of these topics are probably worth some real research, but AH has instead chosen to undermine its own credibility with sloppy journalism. You cannot expect anyone who has the slightest bit of internet-savvy to swallow whole your claims to “categorically” know something based on the report of a dozen constructed identities and fabricated personalities. Making such claims will only server to undermine your credibility. You also should not allow your own pique to get in the way of good journalism to the point that you start making accusations that are pattently false. And when you realize that you’ve misrepresented the truth, you should not allow pride to keep you from posting a complete retraction. People will write you off rather quickly once they get a hint that you have a personal beef interfering in your reporting. You are the one who chose to push controversial buttons in the first place, so there really is no call for temper tantrums over someone responding to the button you chose to push. You’d do much better to maintain your professionalism in such cases. Failing to do so will undermine your credibility.
Whether or not you choose to see any positive comments about ways to improve the site in this is up to you. But I don’t consider it a waste of my time either way.
–Phin
Julian Spillane
Dec 31st, 2003
Y’know, after reading a few of these AlphaVille posts, I have become quite intrigued. I do not play the Sims Online, and nor do I myself playing it, mainly because I would rather spend my money elsewhere. But, as a game developer myself, I see the validity in the game’s existence, and its possible fun factor.
That being said, what has intrigued me more than underage cyber-brothel owners, and the turmoil of users that have been affected by these types of trickery and malice has been the reaction of the SO community.
If this truly is being used as a social behaviour research site, then Uri, you truly must be having a field day. As a member of the industry, I understand the concept of digital immersion, but I am blown away at the extreme devotion of those users that have made their lives on this game. Love, hatred, revenge, friendship, and other human social behaviours can be spotted in the replies to these posts. In a way, even this blog itself has become a microcosm of human behaviour.
So my point, in the end is, no matter where you are, what you are doing, what you are playing, who you are taking to…take a step back and analyze why it has become so important to you. Because there is immersion in everything, and if you are letting something like the Sims Online upset you on an emotional and personal level, then you should seriously reconsider your devotion to such a thing.
Sorry for being a tad long-winded, I just felt that I should say my peace. Hope I didn’t offend anyone, and if I did, well, then it is simply another facet to this social microcosm, then, eh?
-Julian Spillane
syl
Dec 31st, 2003
AS FAR AS RB POSTING YOU SPEAK INAPPROPRIATE “DONT BE A IDIOT ” IS THIS HOW YOU TALK TO PEOPLE ? HOPE YOU DON’T WORK WITH THEM , SOME ARE NOT COMPUTER NERDS WHO KNOW EVERYTHING , I READ URI SAYING A PERSON WAS POSTING DIFF NAMES BUT SAME IP ADDY READ ON , THAT IS WHY I SAID THAT TRY READING AND NOT CALLING OTHERS IDIOTS BECAUSE YOUR SPECIAL AND HAVE MORE TIME TO LEARN ABOUT COMPUTERS , I SPEND MY TIME LEARNING ABOUT LIFE COMPUTERS ARE NOT IMPORTANT TO ME SO THIS IS WHY I DONT KNOW BUT GLAD YOU DO LOL , KINDA RUDE OF YOU DONT YOU THINK ,BECAUSE THEN ANY PERSON NOT KNOWING WHAT A IP ADDY IS A IDIOT IN YOUR EYES , MAYBE TO THEM YOUR A LONELY COMPUTER GEEK , ISNT THAT CATAGORIZING?AS I SAID BEFORE IVY HAS LIED TO SOME SHE CLAIMED 17 YEARS OLD NOW SAYS 13? AND ASK MANY WHERE ARE YOU AT ? IN INSTANT MESSAGE FOR WHAT REASON DOES SHE NEED TO KNOW WHERE PEOPLE ARE? SHE IS VERY SENSITIVE HATES PEOPLE CALLING HER A BEAR HEAD BUT HEADS TO VANS ? SHE HAS CLAIMED SHE HAS MAFIA FRIENDS IN OTHER CITIES MAYBE JOKING TO COME TAG ONES HERE, BUT PEOPLE KNOW THEY TALK AND SHE KNOWS IVY ADMIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YOUR MORE THAN A INNOCENT FRAMED LIL GIRL , YOU HANG WITH SSG , BUT GOT CAUGHT UP IN A WEB OF LIES? YOU PUT YOU WON 5 MILL ON YOUR PROFILE AND IT WASNT FOR A 5 MIN DEAL IT WAS TIL PEOPLE MESSAGED YOU .THATS WHEN YOU TOOK IT OFF , SSG SHOULD KNOW SHE WATCHES YOU ALL , THEN PLAYS INNOCENT LIKE SHE OOPS MADE A MISTAKE!! I HIGHLY DOUBT THAT
urizenus
Dec 31st, 2003
Julian says:
>If this truly is being used as a social behaviour research site, then Uri, you truly must be having a field day. As a member of the industry, I understand the concept of digital immersion, but I am blown away at the extreme devotion of those users that have made their lives on this game. Love, hatred, revenge, friendship, and other human social behaviours can be spotted in the replies to these posts. In a way, even this blog itself has become a microcosm of human behaviour.
Jinjo
Jan 1st, 2004
Now, not all 13 year olds that play this game are like that. Ive met quite a few young people that are pretty intelligent. And as far as their parents being “Lazy Asses” goes, How does letting your child play a game make them a bad parent? I mean its along the same lines as “You cant see everything they do” thing. You just have to trust them. Im sure youve probably met a fair share of young players that you would have no clue are young.
RB
Jan 2nd, 2004
Syl get a new keyboard. your caps lock is broken.
Why All The Drama
Jan 2nd, 2004
This is so much DRAMA. We really don’t need all this DRAMA. Come on people its just a game.
Aurora Ivy
Jan 2nd, 2004
Fine , this is last time i post on here.
Ya I use to lie about my age so people wouldn’t go “OMG yer so young you shouldn’t be on here” then I told some people i got to know “who are now good friends how old I was” but theres one thing i didn’t lie about 1st of all syl I DUN PLAY GAMES IF YOU WANT ME TO PLAY GAMES THEN FINE!! But im not gonna do that. and 2nd of all I dun give a care about evangeline wanna know how to get rid of her STOP giving her attention all she wants to see is people angry and sad and its horrible… there im done
syl
Jan 3rd, 2004
FIRST OF ALL VAN AKA IVY YOU ARE ALWAYS AROUND A SIM OF HERS ,…… TAKE A LOOK NOW AND ANOTHER WHY DO YOU NEED TO KNOW WHERE CERTAIN SIMS ARE? WHY DO YOU ASK ? YOUR SENSITIVE ABOUT YOUR HEAD YOUVE EXPLAINED THAT TOOO SOOOOOO MANY AND IF WVAN HATES BEAR HEADS ? HMMMMMM i WOULDNT WANT TO BE YOUR FRIEND ALSO WILL WARN SOME OF YOUR WEB THAT DOESNT READ THE HERALD PLUS YOU NEVER COMMENTED ON THE MAFIA CORRECT? WHY NOT , TIS TRUE RIGHT ? THOUGHT SO YOUR A SAD SAD CASE AND HOPE FRIENDS REALIZE THT CHANGING YOUR BIO FROM FREE HOME TO CHARGING IN 2 MIN GOSHHHHHH MONEY MONGER ARENT YOU SINCE YOU CALIMED 5 MILL ON YOUR WEB FROM YOURSELF?
syl
Jan 3rd, 2004
BY THE WAY THE HOME YOU WERE GIVING AWAY WASNT NUMBERED ON A TOP 100 LIST , NOW YOUR IN THE HANDS OF ONE VAN ? TSK TSK!!!!!!!!!!!! YOUR SUCH A SHAM
syl
Jan 3rd, 2004
MARTHA WITH YA VAN ? KEEPING YOUR 500 SIMS GOING?YOU KNOW WHAT I MEANS SINCE LOCKED LOL
syl
Jan 3rd, 2004
OOPS YOU LOGGED OFF VASN OTHER SIMS? OHARE? SSG SHOULD BE SCARED OF YOU YOUR A COMPLETE LIAR !YOUR SO HURT RIGHT ? YOU NEVER WERE , YOUR FEELINGS WERE ONLY PLAYED TO OTHERS TO MAKE YOU LOOK INNOCENT I HOPE I GET YOUR SKANKY BUTT AS A RUG !OR POSSIBLY SELL YOUR FUR TO ANOTHER , ID REALLY LIKE TO NOT HAVE YOUR DIRTY FUR IN MY HOME VAN
Aurora Ivy
Jan 3rd, 2004
OK im posting again.
SYL what is yer problem GEEZUS I told you i’m not her but noo you won’t beleive me then FINE! I know my friends do and theres plenty of people in AV who know me ASK Them!! And if you still don’t beleive me oh well. Someday maybe you’ll realize to trust most people.
hopefully syl will stop harrasing me -Aurora Ivy
umok
Jan 3rd, 2004
So Ivy, what’s this I hear about you caging Polie?
RB
Jan 4th, 2004
how old are you syl? do you think before you type? it helps, trust me. Better than the barley comprehendiable spew you have spouted in all caps in the last couple of posts. You make hardly any sense at times.
- RB
syl
Jan 4th, 2004
OMGGGGGGG YOU PEOPLE SHOULD SEE THIS SUPPOSEDLY 13 Y/O SHES ON NOW , FRIENDS WITH A FRIEND OF VAN HMMMMMMMMM GIVE ME A BREAK TAG THIS LIL BOY , YOUR FAKE IF YOUR SO INNOCENT YOU KNOW EBS TRY LOOKING , BUT THEN AGAIN VAN WANT YOU ALL TO KNOW IT ISNT HIM , NOW IN A 5 MILL MAZE HOME HMMMMM IVY 5 MILL IS YOUR MAGIC NUMBER , URI TRY A REAL INVESTIGATION ON THIS SIM REALLY! SHES A BIG FALSE SIM PLAYING INNOCENT , AND WAY TO NEAR VAN LOOK AT HER ROOMIES WEB !
syl
Jan 4th, 2004
BY THE WAY YOUR PARENTS DONT CARE WHAT YOU DO? YOUR ON IF YOUR EAST COAST TIME ITS 5 AM FOR YOU AND YOUVE BEEN ON ALL NITE , EITHER YOU HAVE UNFIT PARENTS OR YOUR A OLD LADY , AND IF UNFIT I SHOULD REPORT YOUR YOUNG 13 Y/O BUTT TO AUTHORITIES , ARE YOUR MOM AND DAD DRUNKS AND DONT CARE ? OR????????? YOUR A FULL GROWN MAN ? WANTING TO BECOME A FEMALE?
Whatever
Jan 4th, 2004
Even though it’s hard to make out everything he says, Syl makes some sense and I for one and many others don’t believe Aurora basically seeing the way she acts and what she has done in the past.
anon
Jan 6th, 2004
*yawn*… you people take this so seriously, it’s making me sick
Aurora Ivy
Jan 9th, 2004
What Was I this mean in the Past was I really That mean in the past..?!?!
Syl
Jan 11th, 2004
I’M TIRED OF SEEING YOU EVAN AKA IVY MAKING FRIENDS WITH , EVANS FRIENDS AT THIS TIME IT WOULD BE YET! A LATE NITE AGAIN! ALSO EVERY OTHER DAY YOU BUY A HOME SAY YOU MAKE A MISTAKE AND SELL , YOUR TOO IFFY FOR ME I HAVE TO WATCH YOU WELL YOU ONLY BLOCK WHERE YOUR AT WHEN EVANS HOME IS ONLINE , AND MOST KNOW WHY , YOU SHOULD UNDERSTAND YOU ARE ONLY FOOLING PEOPLE WHO DONT WATCH YOU WELL IF YOU PEOPLE WANT TO SEE HOW SHE IS WATCH THEN WATCH EVANS WEB AND SEE HOW FUNNY ONE OF EVANS FRIENDS WILL MAKE HER ONE BUT SHE WONT TO THEM , PLEASE LISTEN I HAVE BEEN WATCHING HER FOR ALMOST 8 MONTHS , SHE HAS NO IDEA WHO I AM BUT TALK TO HER OFTEN , BUT WATCH HER WEB AND SEE THE NEW SIMS AND WHO THEY LINK TO SEE HER INNOCENT SMILE ON IT AND ALSO SEE CORI A EVAN SIM IS STILL THERE , SHES REALLY ONLY BEING NICE TO FIND SSG AND THE GOSSIP JUST WATCHHH IS ALL I ASK WATCH HER HOP FROM HOME TO HOME AND WHAT SIMS SHE KEEPS COMPANY , THAT WILL SHOW YOU WHAT I KNOW AND WHAT MANY DO , TAKES A MOMENT TO REALLY OPEN YOUR EYES AND SEE
Urizenus
Jan 11th, 2004
Syl, you need to stop harassing Aurora Ivy now or you are going to land in some real world trouble. I also want you to return the money that you scammed from her. You should know that this blog logs ip addresses, so you are not anonymous here.
RB
Jan 12th, 2004
And stop writing every bloody thing in ALL CAPS you child. ffs. Grow the rest of your brain. *sigh* noob.
- RB
Muwahahaha
Jan 13th, 2004
I think you all can suck my ass! Evangeline and her crew makes this game fun for me and others. I don’t pay $10 + other accounts a month to listen to newbies whining for THEIR money! It’s my money and if I wanna give it to you I will, if not then get the fuck over it! You all are such idiots! Love, ME!
Aurora Ivy
Jan 14th, 2004
Thats not nice Muwhahaha >=( You don’t have to use vulgar language I think people who are new to the game deserve some decent respect and help in the game I pay 9.99$ a month to meet people online not to be a bank or to steal to make friends and have fun. Muwhahaha if you do not wanna pay 9.99$ a month to help newbies and others than PPPPFFFFTTTT -Aurora Ivy
Syl
Jan 20th, 2004
WORLD OF TROUBLE?????? YOU KNOW WHAT URI FOR A PERSON WHO CHECKS HIS FACTS OUT CORRECTLY YOUR COMPLETELY WRONG , I SAT HERE THINKING SCAMMED HER OUT OF WHAT MONEY? . IS THAT WHAT SHE TOLD YOU ? IF YOU BELIEVE HER THEN YOU TRULY HAVE NO SENSE IN FACTS IF YOU KNEW WHO I WAS YOUD HAVE TO RETHINK THAT AND ALSO BRING THE WORLD OF TROUBLE ON .ID LIKE TO SEE FACTS ON ME EVER ONCE SCAMMING ONE PERSON ON TSO , BELIEVE ME MY DEAR YOUD BE APOLOGIZING VERY QUICKLY , SO BEFORE YOU SPEAK CHECK YOUR FACTS VERY WELL , AS I SAID BEFORE CHECK THEM WELL !