Op/Ed: RL/SL Fashion Faux Pas
by Pixeleen Mistral on 04/03/07 at 7:55 pm
Why is Sabrina Doolittle’s RL typist is rocking a faded red shirt and a drooling dog in print?
by Tenshi Vielle, Fabulous Fashionista
I have a rant to make.
Besides my intolerance for Linden Lifestyle’s Miss Sabrina Doolittle and her “never do wrong” attitude, her “fashion princess” facade, herein lies the truth.
A woman that can’t bother to do her hair. A woman that can’t bother to wear anything other than an ugly, faded red shirt while clutching her drooly dog. (Is that one of those damn cross-eyed boxers?)
Then again, a while ago, there was an event – an event that shall remain nameless – that advertised itself to the RL Fashion Impaired such as Miss Doolittle here as something they could attend in their pajama’s.
For god’s sakes people. Have some respect for yourself.
If you’re going to pretend to be someone else, don’t let us see the real you. However, if you ARE going to expose yourself as the “real you” – have the decency to be consistent. Nobody wants to see a washed up person parading around in SL as one of the main style icons.
Oh. One more thing.
If you feel the need to be snarky, mean, rude, or just to point out the truth – have the courtesy and the balls to leave your name. I do.
Signing off,
- Tenshi Vielle
Tenshi Vielle’s RL typist is rocking a black quilted down coat with faux-fur trim and denim jeans, along with her favorite high-heeled black boots
SunnyMarie
Mar 7th, 2007
Hey herald Editorial staff, you didn’t answer my question. You know, the question about what you thought of the fact that Tenshi attributed the thing things she was ranting about to the wrong person. Allowing misattributed op/ed attack pieces to stand and indeed supporting them tooth and nail is a bit of a bad place to be, is it not?.
An attack piece is already pushing it, but now we find out that Tenshi had the wrong “villain” and you have nothing to say about it and you just keep dodging.
Wow. Watta shokka!
Urizenus
Mar 7th, 2007
I stand corrected: The dog isn’t drooling. And ok, it’s cute.
But I still insist that you should only sport white or grey dogs in the winter. Maybe a nice Alaskan Huskie next time.
SunnyMarie
Mar 7th, 2007
Uri, you’re not funny.
But i imagine that is like telling Anne Coulter she is irrelevant.
m i s a t t r i b u t i o n.
Is that slow enough?
Artemis Fate
Mar 7th, 2007
“if youre a designer in sl you sit on your ass all day playing with pixels in photoshop . . last time i checked when i studied fashion in rl. . that wasnt the job description of a designer in rl”
Actually, if I remember right, that’s exactly what you do as a real life designer, the only difference is you take those sketches and concept designs and then put them into real life assembly where as SL ones just elaborate on the sketches and designs and put them into virtual assembly. After all, half the battle with fashion design is “design”.
Anyways yeah, stuff like this is when I was kinda “eeeeeh” on the thread where Urizenus got pissed off that another paper was claiming to be the first tabloid in SL, because it really kind of is. The Herald can be tabloid like some times, but other times like these it’s just a nasty second life blog. It makes the jump back and forth between “tabloid on a blog” and “blog pretending to be a tabloid” too much to really be considered one or the other.
Joshua Nightshade
Mar 7th, 2007
Mr Urizenus, is it true that you represent Anshe Chung studios as their corporate evangelist? If so how does this conflict with your work at the SLHerald and your ability to deliver legitimate news to SL residents? Thanks!
PIxeleen Mistral
Mar 7th, 2007
Uri,
That dog may be drooling after all – following standard Herald editorial policy I sent the picture to be fact checked before running the Op/Ed piece. The photoshop forensics people said it is nearly certain that dog saliva – even drool – is involved. We cannot rule out the possibility of a dog drool coverup conspiracy here.
I hope this does not distract people from the big issue – fashion designers should be wearing an appropriate dog at all times – or simply go dogless.
SunnyMarie
Mar 7th, 2007
Most dogs salivate, and the Herald staff bears this fact out!
Totally junkyard!
Crossed eyes, no make up, bright steel zippers and stringy blonde hair faux pas aside, you’ve got a really great publication here.
Really great.
Urizenus
Mar 7th, 2007
Thanks Pix, I stand corrected on my correction. It is drooling after all!
It is important to get the facts right on this very important story. The reputation of a virtual clothing designer is at stake!
Joshua, I’m not working for Anshe, but am currently sold out to another evil power. I could tell you who, but then I’d have to kill you.
FlipperPA Peregrine
Mar 7th, 2007
Point one, Sabrina and Salome have been nothing but utterly pleasant to me when I’ve interacted with them in the past. Granted, I’m not really into the fashion scene (my AV changes clothes about once a month), but they always took to time for a decent conversation when I had questions.
Point two, the Herald just keeps getting more and more super awesomer by the day. Now, I’m off to watch paternity tests on Maury Povich!
SunnyMarie
Mar 7th, 2007
>>>>It is important to get the facts right on this very important story. The reputation of a virtual clothing designer is at stake!<<<<
Funny that. If the target was an SL landlord, would the comedic professor be cracking wise?
Doubtful.
Some pixels are more equal than others apparently.
Urizenus
Mar 7th, 2007
Actually, we are working on a story on virtual babies that get left at home when their blingtard moms go clubbing. It’s a shocking development, and no doubt it will also incriminate many of the commentors above. I mean its not at the level of whether Sabrina’s dog is drooling, but not every story can be a Herald Classic.
SunnyMarie
Mar 7th, 2007
Uri, After you storm and enrapture the comedy clubs in An Arbor, could you contact me about a booking?
Given your gift for cutting sarcasm, I think you could be a hit at Sunny Acres in Mount Pleasant.
whateva
Mar 7th, 2007
Maria Malone is a dead account. I know this for a fact because I was her. Just wanted to clarify this.
As far as this op/ed I think it is classic Herald material. While I personally think both girls are dogs I got the point of the op/ed. What I found more entertaining was the responses to the piece. Great stuff! Keep it coming.
Urizenus
Mar 7th, 2007
SunnyM, Herald contributors *have* attacked Anshe in ways much more vituperative than anything Tenshi has said. Witness Heartun’s piece on “1 million dollars won’t buy a mother’s love.” http://www.secondlifeherald.com/slh/2007/01/by_heartun_brea.html
Maybe land barons have thicker skin than fashionistas. Then again, Anshe’s dog wasn’t involved.
Lorelei Patel
Mar 7th, 2007
It’s the Soaring Eagle in Mount Pleasant
And mean is never cool.
And spouting an opinion does not a reporter make. Quite the opposite. Spouting opinions negates your role as a reporter.
Artemis Fate
Mar 7th, 2007
“SunnyM, Herald contributors *have* attacked Anshe in ways much more vituperative than anything Tenshi has said. Witness Heartun’s piece on “1 million dollars won’t buy a mother’s love.” http://www.secondlifeherald.com/slh/2007/01/by_heartun_brea.html”
Eh, I don’t know how harsh a quickly worded and lightly posed “your mom” joke to Anshe is. I prefer the “Cold-hearted bitch who treats people as walking wallets to be drained and threw away” approach more.
“Maybe land barons have thicker skin than fashionistas. Then again, Anshe’s dog wasn’t involved.”
Course, Sabrina hasn’t as far as I know, tried to forcibly get this article removed like Anshe did at the rather light-hearted dick-parade festivalia video interruption on YouTube (as well as contacted and threatened law suits for all sites that dared display a screen shot of the event).
Thicker skinned indeed.
Urizenus
Mar 7th, 2007
Yeah, I guess we’re not going to know who’s thicker skinned until a fashion show get’s penised.
Artemis Fate
Mar 7th, 2007
“Yeah, I guess we’re not going to know who’s thicker skinned until a fashion show get’s penised.”
Sounds like a challenge
SunnyMarie
Mar 7th, 2007
>>>>Actually, we are working on a story on virtual babies that get left at home when their blingtard moms go clubbing. It’s a shocking development, and no doubt it will also incriminate many of the commentors above. I mean its not at the level of whether Sabrina’s dog is drooling, but not every story can be a Herald Classic.<<<
I asked about YOU.
Is there a YOU?
Or is it just “the team” any time one of you is caught with your pants down??
CoyoteMomiji
Mar 7th, 2007
It’s frightening when I agree with Prokofy Neva.
Urizenus
Mar 7th, 2007
>I asked about YOU.
>
>Is there a YOU?
Is that ‘you’ singular or ‘you’ plural?
Wayfinder Wishbringer
Mar 7th, 2007
>Actually, the real lesson here is that the Herald cannot be taken seriously. The contributors are unqualified, unskilled, and are dripping with obvious agenda. There is no editorial control, not even a modest pretense to real journalism, and when wrong, simply no class or willingness to self reflect. — Posted by: Persephone Milk< You’re 100% right Persephone. And I state this despite the fact that Uri is an old SL friend and acquaintance. I wouldn’t run the Herald like he does… but hey, it’s his zine. Your comment about “the Herald cannot be taken seriously” is right on the money… and sometimes I think the theme of the Herald in general. I think Uri does this strictly for the fun of it.
I don’t like a totally unmoderated blogzine. I don’t like a blog where people don’t have to register (it removes accountability). I don’t like a blog where kiddie trolls are allowed to run rampant, thinking they’re god’s-gift-to-the internet when they couldn’t make a valid point to save their hides (the world has no shortage of insecure people who have to constantly downgrade others to convince themselves of their own self-worth). I hate wasting my time cutting the heads off trolls (but to tell the truth… they make it so easy).
But… that is kinda what the Herald is… (forgive me Uri) a blatant flamerboard under the guise of an online newspaper.
Now mind you, I don’t think Uri tries to hide that fact. His up-front disclaimer equates Linden Lab with the “Dark Side of the Force”. Just about every post I’ve seen here from Uri is highly tongue-in-cheek (and quite a bit of it somewhat humorous). I neither defend nor condone Uri and the Herald– nor do I condemn it or flame it. The Herald is what the Herald is. I think people are often caught off-guard because of the name (Second Life Herald does sound a little “official”). Maybe a bigger and more direct disclaimer… LOL
SL Herald is a lot easier to deal with if one remembers a few vital facts: relatively low readership, relatively lowbrow articles, and nothing posted here has any lasting, all-important significance. Sure, I dislike it when flamers get on here and lie and slander and toss around propaganda. I wish the Herald had a staff that moderated both articles and responses and wiped the troll posts so we don’t have to mess with ‘em. I think the blog would serve the community far better if it did.
Did I find this article offensive? Yeah. Do I condone such nonsense? Nope. Do people have the right to climb all over Uri? Yup. Will it do any good? Depends on whether he’s had enough sleep or not. LOL. I’ve mentioned to him before that I’d like to see better editorial work here… but I don’t expect him to change the Herald just because of my opinion. It’s his paper. Beyond those thoughts… I got nothin’.
Oh and just to say it and keep him on his toes… Nacon has less than nothin’. He gets out of High School, goes right home and sees who he can next attack. Poor boy. Got no life and already brain damaged from sniffing too much kool-aid dust. Trolls are what happens when you’re bottle-fed as a baby. I fear if he ever actually made a valid point or observation, the two remaining brain cells would short-circuit, he’d realize the futility of everything he’s ever posted, and kill himself in despair. Not that anyone here would notice. We’d figure he’s just trolling under yet another fake name and never realize he was gone.
There Nacon, hope that makes your day. I know you just LIVE for this stuff. LOL
Allana Dion
Mar 7th, 2007
Ahhh the Herald Group Blog proves itself once again to be such a valuable sourch of SL information.
Tenshi Vielle
Mar 7th, 2007
”
>I asked about YOU.
>
>Is there a YOU?
Is that ‘you’ singular or ‘you’ plural?”
I believe, Uri, that the phrase “is there a YOU?” hints at the plural casual form of “you”.
Anyway, we’re only 26 comments away from 200, guys! Come on! Keep it up!
lorelei patel
Mar 7th, 2007
Seriously, Tenshi, what are you getting out of this? Do you have any remorse at all about attacking anyone like that? Or do you just glory in the flames? If so, that’s just sad, and you’re a person not to be hated or disliked, but pitied. Maybe you’ll understand that someday.
Allana Dion
Mar 7th, 2007
“I find it interesting that she fails to mention that she has just announced the start-up of her own fashion blog, which means she is hoping to become Sabrina Doolittle’s direct competition. Sheds a whole lot more light on her vindictiveness, doesn’t it?”
So Uri .. Is it Herald policy to PAY “reporters” to attack their competition as a means of promoting their own individual business endevours?
You know it’s sad, but the first few times I read the Herald, I thought it might be a fun publication to write for, at least well read. But after closer examination, I stand corrected. The Herald amounts to nothing more than a group blog with some advertising links and one or two decent writers who would do well to jump ship before the stink overwhelms them.
Rumgoat Pugilist
Mar 7th, 2007
Wow, Tenshi is adorable and mean. That gives her a free pass to insult anyone and anything she wants. But then I’m known to be a prick. An awesome shitstorm for an awesome girl.
I think the more important point here is the difference between Second Life and MMORPGs, and the difference between real-life and internet-life. Of course when I play Last Chaos or Urban Dead or whatnot it is obviously a game, and noone expects me to be a Titan or a paramilitary zombie-hunter in real life. But the nature of Second Life is closer to internet-life, that kind of pseudo us that we create for chat rooms and message boards where you expect the real person to resemble in some way the internet person. Anyone that sets themselves up as some sort of Second Life celebrity should expect to get some shit like this. Or pink dildos.
I had more of a point, but I’m known to be a lazy prick.
Urizenus
Mar 7th, 2007
Rumgoat, you might be a lazy prick, but you’re not wrong in that second paragraph.
Wayfinder Wishbringer
Mar 7th, 2007
Rumgoat may be correct. And people might expect that “celebrities” are going to catch some flack. Yeah.
That doesn’t make it right. RL celebrities sue tabloids all the time for character assasination. The metaverse is no different. Sooner or later, the wrong person to tick off is going to get ticked off enough to decided to make an example of Second Life. And when that happens, hoo boy, the offication is a gonna strike the rotary occilator. A lot of people are going to find out that Second Life (and Linden Lab) is still accountable to real life laws… and that goofy TOS is going to stand up in court for about 5 minutes before being torn to shreds by a saavy attorney. Then the fur will fly.
Rumgoat Pugilist
Mar 7th, 2007
The fur will fly, especially in a lawsuit involving Second Life. I made a furry joke. Told you I was lazy.
There already are numerous cases involving internet defamation of character, and it’s only a matter of time before this litigiousness spreads and we can all tell our children of the good old days, when all these tubes were full of flamewars as far as the eye can see. I fail to see how Linden Labs would be involved in much of this, and if they could be held liable for trolling and griefing then any message board could be sued for unlawful facilitation of trolling.
Tenshi Vielle
Mar 7th, 2007
Nope. Sorry, this wasn’t an attempt to undermine LL in order to gain popularity on SCD. I don’t feel LL is worthy enough competition. I don’t really feel any blog is worthy enough competition to warrant this.
Honestly, it’s just a call for LL to come down off their high horses. *shrug* If you don’t believe that, well, that’s your issue, and not mine.
Joannah Cramer
Mar 7th, 2007
“Honestly, it’s just a call for LL to come down off their high horses. *shrug* If you don’t believe that, well, that’s your issue, and not mine.”
I think the issue is ultimately yours Tenshi, since it’s you who failed to make your point in any sort of coherent manner. What you said in your piece was essentially “if you are not looking like your SL AV, don’t you dare to show your RL picture” … how does that translate to “get off your high horse”? If anything, it makes it sound like _you_ are riding one here, feeling entitled to tell others how they should conduct their second life.
Morgana Fillion
Mar 7th, 2007
Tenshi, come on. You only see them up on a high horse because something about them is making you feel inferior.
Instead of wasting effort trying to make others change, why not just your own attitude toward them – live and let live, enjoy what you’re doing in SL and if you don’t care for what they’re doing stop reading them. if this thread has shown you nothing else, it ought to be showing you that many people are living happy SL lives without dealing with the fashion scene at all.
SunnyMarie
Mar 8th, 2007
>>>Tenshi, come on. You only see them up on a high horse because something about them is making you feel inferior.<<<
Exactly, which is what I told her in my first post to her,which she of course ignored. Because she is smarter and better than all the rest of us, right Tenshi? Or did I strike a little too deep?. Or that’s the mechanism she’s utilising try and make herself feel better, because she obviously loathes herself. Just peruse her blog for a few minutes and you’ll see exactly where this bile is coming from. She can’t get along with anyone it seems, in her RL, so why would she be able to get along with people who she doesn’t even have to look in the eye on the internet?
The saddest part is that a grown up (Uri, and I use that term loosely) is latching on to this pathology, trying to politicise it, and to make it seem like it some great benefit to the ‘verse because it’s exposing the underbelly of some nebulous fashion FIC.
That’s ok, because anyone with half a brain can scan the names of the commenters here and easily determine that he is 100% full of shit.
Nice try Uri, but sad songs and waltzes aren’t selling this year.
*barf*
Alaska Metro.
Mar 8th, 2007
I didn’t have time to read through half of this, but felt it worthy to respond to this by Uri:
“Sabrina, I am but a humble contributing editor these days, and did not post Tenshi’s article, but yes I do stand behind her. Whether or not her article worked, it caused you no harm, and frankly I think that young reporters like Tenshi need room to find their voice. That means they need room to experiment, push boundaries, and learn to find the right note when they do so. That is not easy to do.”
I believe the correct place for young, inexperienced writers to spew forth nothing more than a vindictive, childishly-written personal attack would NOT be on a large website that supposedly contains journalism about Second Life. I would like to refer Tenshi to the following locations where she can learn her “voice”, post shitty webcam photos of herself, AND write personal attacks, all in one place!
Tenshi, Uri, are you paying attention? Here’s the list:
http://www.livejournal.com
http://www.myspace.com
http://www.blogger.com
http://www.facebook.com
http://www.friendster.com
You’re very welcome, and I do hope that cleared things up for you! Now to go read about some REAL news, like the latest age-play drama. *rolls eyes*
jesse aitui
Mar 8th, 2007
Wow, the Herald finally made history.
Wankette
Mar 8th, 2007
SunnyMarie wrote:
“I believe the correct place for young, inexperienced writers to spew forth nothing more than a vindictive, childishly-written personal attack would NOT be on a large website that supposedly contains journalism about Second Life. I would like to refer Tenshi to the following locations where she can learn her “voice”, post shitty webcam photos of herself, AND write personal attacks, all in one place!
Tenshi, Uri, are you paying attention? Here’s the list:
http://www.livejournal.com
http://www.myspace.com
http://www.blogger.com
http://www.facebook.com
http://www.friendster.com”
SunnyMarie -It’s apparent that the SL Herald is where YOU go to post personal attacks. Your opinions obviously place you high above the riffraff who frequent those sophomoric venues you listed to post their personal attacks.
SunnyMarie
Mar 8th, 2007
errrrm Wonkette – clean your glasses.
There’s sure is a lot of misattrubution going on here, speaking of which, it’s been noted over and over that neither Tenshi nor Uri has addressed the fact that Tenshi’s whole “article” is based on misattribution.
If the reasons they are avoiding that topic we’d all be going cross eyed.
SunnyMarie
Mar 8th, 2007
Hmm, somehow my last sentence in that comment above got half nuked.
It should read, “If the reasons they are avoiding that topic were any more obvious, we’d all be going cross eyed.”
Urizenus
Mar 8th, 2007
Alaska, I don’t know who appointed you judge of what content is appropriate for…
http://www.myspace.com
http://www.blogger.com
http://www.facebook.com
http://www.friendster.com
AND
The Second Life Herald
…but it wasn’t me. If you don’t like the editorial policy or the writers here, start your own blog/newspaper/facebook page. 53 million other people have started blogs. You can too!
Crispin Lover
Mar 8th, 2007
There’s an editorial policy here?
:O
Stylish Only When I Feel Like It
Mar 9th, 2007
How is it that something this pointless got published, and how is it, in addition, that there are so many posts in response to this drivel?
To the article writer: No, I am sorry, your point is totally invalid. You cannot push your personal fashion values on someone else. She is free to celebrate her self-expression as much, and in as many or few contexts, as she chooses.
Kudos to the girl you trash for having enough self esteem to show off her natural, un-frilled-up self, rather than NEEDING to wear 5 layers of makeup before even leaving the house, like many poor young girls.
another anon
Mar 12th, 2007
I have to agree with Tenshi, I think if someone is going to criticize or review anything in the fashion biz that they should at least dress and look. How can someone who appears as though they have absolutely no idea what fashion or shopping is, be a credible source for people. Sabrina should have just opted not to include that photo, most people would choose their best picture to be featured in an article, so it makes me worried to think that photo is her best.
another anon
Mar 12th, 2007
I have to agree with Tenshi, I think if someone is going to criticize or review anything in the fashion biz that they should at least dress and look the part. How can someone who appears as though they have absolutely no idea what fashion or shopping is, be a credible source for people. Sabrina should have just opted not to include that photo, most people would choose their best picture to be featured in an article, so it makes me worried to think that photo is her best.
Morgan
Mar 12th, 2007
Finally Someone tells it like it is!! LL is one of the most self important magazines that just lives in delusions of it’s own grandure. and most laughable is their taste isn’t even good. Finally we see exactly who’s behind the keyboard and no surprise it’s someone who just does it to nurture their own ego because in reality they don’t know what their talking about. I’m glad you wrote this article because when we look at LL and at that picture it’s what most of us were thinking!
Morgan
Mar 12th, 2007
Finally Someone tells it like it is!! LL is one of the most self important magazines that just lives in delusions of it’s own grandure. and most laughable is their taste isn’t even good. Finally we see exactly who’s behind the keyboard and no surprise it’s someone who just does it to nurture their own ego because in reality they don’t know what their talking about. I’m glad you wrote this article because when we look at LL and at that picture it’s what most of us were thinking!
Morgan
Mar 12th, 2007
Finally Someone tells it like it is!! LL is one of the most self important magazines that just lives in delusions of it’s own grandure. and most laughable is their taste isn’t even good. Finally we see exactly who’s behind the keyboard and no surprise it’s someone who just does it to nurture their own ego because in reality they don’t know what their talking about. I’m glad you wrote this article because when we look at LL and at that picture it’s what most of us were thinking!
Morgana
Mar 12th, 2007
Finally Someone tells it like it is!! LL is one of the most self important magazines that just lives in delusions of it\’s own grandure. and most laughable is their taste isn\’t even good. Finally we see exactly who\’s behind the keyboard and no surprise it\’s someone who just does it to nurture their own ego because in reality they don\’t know what their talking about. I\’m glad you wrote this article because when we look at LL and at that picture it\’s what most of us were thinking!
Morgana
Mar 12th, 2007
ugh sorry it said it didn\’t send so I kept pressing post
Tiffany Kubrick
Mar 13th, 2007
Morgan and another anon, both double posting “or” both preteneding they don’t know how to post so we won’t figure out they are both Tenshi Vielle trying to make it looks like she has some sort of support for her garbage ethics, oh and this i believe is post 199 so Tenshi (thanks to her double and triple posts here just now) is about to get her wish for the 200 mark. Congarts on geting so many posts about your hate mongering, hope it makes your day.