Op/Ed: Babyfurs – Gross Anarchy With Diapers
by Alphaville Herald on 05/12/07 at 6:06 am
by Righteous Yaffle, disgusted resident and reformed griefer
You can do pretty much anything you want in Second Life – the only limit is your imagination, but it is time someone spoke out about an issue that affects all of us – ageplay – and something far worse: babyfurs.
In case you’re new to the internet, you might not know what a babyfur is. These are not just furries, which are bad enough, but they also role play underage fur sex. What kind of sick person wants to be a babyfur?
For some reason, babyfurs seem exempt to the ageplay rules of Second Life. Why is that though? Does it have to do with the fact that those who come to Second Life to live out their wildest fantasies and spend upwards of thousands of dollars (seriously) receive immunity from the Lindens? It looks to me like large landowners are paying the Lab off by way of their land purchases.
Are babyfurs being used to hide pedophilia? Is being a babyfur a sort of a loophole, since the avatar is not human, so babyfur sex it is not against any rules or ‘real life laws’? For Second Life to be a place for everyone, free to build and do whatever they please – as long as that is not fucking children — the Lindens need to enforce the ageplay rules.
I don’t really give two shits about furries, but it seems more and more wherever I go there is always a babyfur – and some of us feel that we shouldn’t be subjected to that. However, if we speak out, we’re flooded with messages about fursecution and “SEXUAL FREEDOM 4 ALL!”.
This doesn’t even have to do anything with sexual freedom, this has to do with the fact that its fucking gross. If you’re going to do it, at least have some decency – when you take a break from fucking a five-year old bear cub, please switch to a normal avatar when you go outside your house or whatever weird sim you happen to be doin’ the nasty in at the time. Babyfurs everywhere are getting really old really fast.
I’m all for doing whatever you want, but there should be a limit to what you can do in Second Life – if there isn’t, then its just gross anarchy with diapers.
There are many sims that encourage babyfurs, and they blame it too much on the whole “sexual freedom for all” thing, which doesn’t hold any water. I’m sure that the Lindens are doing whatever they can to “stop illegal activity”* in Second Life, but they aren’t really doing as much as they should be.
But I guess that’s what Second Life is, no-holds-barred freedom of expression for everyone, no matter how weird and how sick and how off the wall one might find the actions of another.
Babyfurs are still pretty gross though, but you really shouldn’t take my word for it. Feel free to form your own opinions – chances are you’ll feel the same way I do. Remember, on the internet furry cubs have no rights.
@captainAmerica
Dec 7th, 2007
LOL
America, free?
pay attention buddy.
UncleTom
Dec 7th, 2007
loling @ pedophiles trying to be e-tough.
Mario
Dec 7th, 2007
@Anonymous
About time.
If there wasn’t someone bitching about PN for no apparent reason, then it just wouldn’t feel like a SLH article.
CaptainAmerica
Dec 7th, 2007
“America, free? pay attention buddy.”
Let me take a wild guess, you’re not allowed to marry your gay partner in most states, so you scream “fascism”. Good thing you never lived in eastern europe, china, or an islamic state then.
Have you always been a freedom hating communist?
Angelita pierterson
Dec 7th, 2007
Isn’t it wonderful by the way how the people with the most abrasive opinions are the ones who post annoymously?
Anyway, I know some babyfurs, I support them. IF I thought they were pedophiles I’d have nothing to do with them. *shrugs*
Oh and Mario, you have to call him a nazi. Know your internet flaming ettiquite.
Kes
Dec 7th, 2007
@ CaptainAmerica
“Have you always been a freedom hating communist?”
First accusing me of something ridiculous and irrelevant, and now someone else. Quit pulling stupid, random comments out of your ass.
Even if I *did* hate America (I don’t, just in case you can’t understand sarcasm,) that has nothing to do with liking freedom. Half the world hates America with valid reason. Hating America does not equal hating freedom.
CaptainAmerica
Dec 8th, 2007
@Kes
You clearly stated that you hated America, and by doing that, admitted that you hate freedom.
Do you hate the brave troops?
Kes
Dec 8th, 2007
@CaptainAmerica
Wow. Surely you are not this stupid? Surely you’re just being a dick, right?
Please explain to me how hating America automatically means hating freedom. Until you can do that, I will assume you are too much of a moron to even bother with.
@captain America
Dec 9th, 2007
”
“America, free? pay attention buddy.”
Let me take a wild guess, you’re not allowed to marry your gay partner in most states, so you scream “fascism”. Good thing you never lived in eastern europe, china, or an islamic state then.
Have you always been a freedom hating communist?”
L-A-W-L
okay, okay. Since you brought communism into this.
Remember what the KGB used to do?
Tap everyones phones
arrest those with the ‘wrong ideas’
torture their political prisoners, those with the wrong ideas
Now, let’s see what America does, these days…
Tap everyone’s phones
Arrest those with ‘terroristic ideas’
torture thier political prisoners, eg, those with the wrong ideas
And yes, yes, I know that you are going to say that being treated like dirt in G.B. is something a LOT of people would pay good money for. Difference is, not everyone is into whipping, water torture etc etc.
Do you feel *really* free?
Do you feel you can safely say, even jokingly, that Bush is a dick and should be killed, or something?
Or that it’s a shame the plane never made it to the white house?
Do you?
America hasn’t been free for a long while now.
One used to be able to make people dissapear, simply by stating thei’re communist spies.
Now, you only have to call them a terrorist. That kind of a country is not free.
And a county, also per your own example, that treats gay people like they did black people in the first half of last century… I don’t even call that a civilized country. You however have one point in that, by the fact that theres no special gay people busses. That kind of a country is not free.
Yes, I’m gay. Yes, I’m married. Yes, actually I am living in Europe.
I have a very very strong dislike what you, as a nation, does to this world and how you see yourself as the planet’s designated policeman.
That doesnt mean I have any sort of dislike for any of it’s residents. You cant help it what your government does to your country. I do believe you have tried, twice, to keep that maniac out of the White House, and I feel sorry for all of those who cannot make their fellow Bush supporting Americans see that the elections were fake, what is really happening in the prisons outside of US territorial waters, and it doesnt matter how you vote, the oil and wapons lobby run the country regardless.
No I am not a communist. Because I believe that due to human nature, true communism cannot work. Russia and China are a very nice example for this.
CaptainAmerica
Dec 9th, 2007
@Kes posting as “@captain America”
Sounds you are one of those freedom-hating islamic terrorists.
Im sure you approve of Sharia Law, stonings, persecution of women, ect, over good old American Freedom.
LieutenantAmerica
Dec 9th, 2007
@Kes
You seem to like complaining about America and it’s freedoms enough, but do you approve of the islamic terrorists, and the communists that were defeated by America and the free world?
Anon
Dec 9th, 2007
Far too long has the mentality of babyfur equals pedophile mentality plagued the minds of those who would rather keep a distance between them and anything furry than learn the reality of the situation. They stew in just how disgusting something is that they are blind to what the reality is.
Babyfur is in fact infantilism only applied to the furry fandom. Infantilism is a paraphilia marked by the desire to wear diapers and/or be treated as a infant or toddler. It has nothing to do with sexual preference for children, that is called pedophilia.
Ageplay as defined in the violation of Second Life’s standards and practices is sexual role play between two adults in which one adult takes on the role of a child.
It is not in violation of SL’s terms of service to merely have a child avatar or childlike avatar. Ask most SL denizens who have a child avatar and they will tell you that they do not have said avatar for sexual reasons, but rather to have fun.
Sure, babyfurs on SL can often be found wearing diapers or speaking in a corruption of English known as babytalk, but they are not sexual predators nor sick individuals who pander to pedophiles. They merely choose to represent themselves in baby animal forms in lieu of the countless vampires, robots, goths or BDSM folks.
I’m not saying you have to like babyfurs, but I am saying that you have to accept that fact that the majority are following the rules and have just as much a right to be on Second Life as that pony girl over there with the sparkling nipple ring and the prim pussy.
Kes
Dec 10th, 2007
@CaptainAmerica and LieutenantAmerica
Unfortunately I was not the one who handed your ass to you. “@CaptainAmerica” is somebody else much better spoken than I am. I am answering you anonymously right now, why would I comment with two different names? In any case I *wish* I had written it, I got quite a chuckle from that comment.
And I didn’t complain about American freedoms. If the only way to defend your opinion is by putting words into someone’s mouth, that’s pretty pathetic.
CaptainAmerica
Dec 11th, 2007
@Kes
“”@CaptainAmerica” is somebody else”
I’m sure.
*cough sockpuppet cough*
smellsliketeenbullshit
Dec 11th, 2007
:::”it seems more and more wherever I go there is always a babyfur ”
I wander around to a lot of places and have never seen one.:::
Yeah, I have been in SL since beta and the only babyfurs I’ve seen were on the pages of this publication, or in a box at a store.
But people lie like dogs and exagerrate like there’s no tomorrow to push agendas (re: Prokofy)when they have anonymity. You listen to some of these freaks and you’d think SL was wall to wall fucking and yiffing.
In my time in SL I have come across someone ABOUT to have sex ONCE.
I used to deal a lot of land, which took me all over the grid. I was also a dancer and hostess and therefore spent a lot of time in various clubs. In my spare time I check out various sims and mainland builds, as time permits. I have seen a LOT of SL, and I just don’t see the stuff people claim is in their face all the time.
Anonymous
Sep 27th, 2008
As a babyfur and an Anon, I take exception to your gross overgeneralization.
I RP a babyfur in Cub Conclave, and sometimes use a child shape when wandering the rest of the grid, but I’ve never EVER solicited anyone to treat me as a cub on there.
I don’t even wear diapers outside of CC, as a courtesy to anyone who doesn’t want to deal with that aspect of my personal, PRIVATE, kink.
I’ve been on SL for over a year, and I’ve never seen a babyfur, or even a child Ava, outside of CC and the adjoining parcels. If you found it, you were looking for it. If you don’t like it, that’s what Mute is there for. Suck it up and grow a pair.
Also, does anyone else but me find the definition for ageplay on SL a bit… broken? By their rules, an obviously adult Ava holding a baby bottle could break the rule.
Petit Kitty
Oct 30th, 2008
ok im sick and tired of humans calling us babyfurs gross, i may not go on second life but ive had humans come on and comlain that we surposebly rape children, im a babyfur, i dont repeat DON’T do anything to do with raping children or anything to do with pedophillia, i enjoy life roleplaying as a 3 year old kitten still in diapers just to get away from reality and stress. if you guys has a problem i will come down there and throw my soiled diapers in your faces.
sick
Oct 30th, 2008
Adults who want to be infants and want to wear diapers and then interact with other people in that state are sick in the head and really should seek treatment.
CaptainObvious
Jul 9th, 2010
I see im a bit late to the party… by 2 years. but the author has very valid points.
If a line cannot be drawn somewhere, its things like these that make people do stupid things.
If an adult wants to be a diaper wearing animal… their probably a little messed up.
okay a lot.
first, they want to be an animal, and now a diaper wearing, infantile one too?
I’m sorry. I wasn’t aware it was cool to want to shit your pants. but by all means, if there are adults out there who indulge in such incredulous acts… well i had very little hope for mankind anyways.
At this rate 2012 would be nice, just to give the earth a fresh start.
and sadly you can never talk to someone and rationally reason with them when they have already reached this mental state. Its a sad reality that we can just hope they grow out of… (how ironic….)
Its bad enough society is fucked up enough that you constantly have to keep an eye out for your child, but now i think i have to look out for my poor cat too, because it recently had kittens.
Walter
Jan 13th, 2011
Fur-fandom fetishs a simple method by-passing of local pornagraphy statutes.
Yep
Jan 13th, 2011
lol any adult running around wearing a diaper has to have a few screws loose in their head.
had enough
Jan 13th, 2011
Fur fags are a sick bunch any how. Now the teens are coming to SL and we have to worry about some over sexed furry trying to pick up on teens.
lolol
Jan 13th, 2011
LMAO do they wear Depends or Pampers?
DoomRater
Dec 7th, 2012
Now if sex wasn’t part of the deal would you be alright with it happening in SL, even if it’s still not your thing?