Commie Award Winner: Kalel Venkman
by Alphaville Herald on 17/01/08 at 11:07 pm
A note from the Editrix:
Here at the Herald we maintain the highest possible standards of journalism and literary arts. This means that we are careful about handing out awards. For instance, the “commie” or comment-of-the-week award, has only been awarded once previously – but Kalel Venkman has risen to the occasion with a terse, yet world-class comment, reproduced below:
I’m going to humor this silliness for a while, because there are a few things that I think really need to be said.
Tizzers Foxchase is no martyr. He was not banned for pasting a single chat log. To my knowledge, he was banned for a number of serious ongoing violations of Terms of Service and community standards, including but not limited to unnumerable counts of disclosure, harassment, disturbing the peace, intolerance, a possible misrepresentation of the educational status of the Woodbury University sim (the potential fallout of which would have been the defrauding of Linden Labs out of approximately two thousand dollars in United States currency), creating a monument to intolerance in the form of Woodbury University (as has been well documented in other Herald articles) and knowingly contributing to organized griefing. Despite his claims to the contrary, he was in full knowledge that the PN were at Woodbury the entire time they were there – I have been told by Lindens that the chat logs bore this out.
I am not privy to everything Foxchase ever said about anyone else, or everything he ever did, but the only true friend he had in Second Life was himself. The others were his playthings to manipulate or torment.
At the very moment he was trying to apologize to me for the multiple ToS violations it took to orchestrate a trip to my home in real life, and swearing off griefing, he was photographed trolling Prokofy Neva using his Azzu Manga alt ( http://secondthoughts.typepad.com/second_thoughts/2007/11/lindens-deny-gr.html ).
The Justice League gives out emergency signals so that residents can call for assistance if they’re being griefed. At the same time as Tizzers was attempting to negotiate peace with me a second time on January 1, the day of his final permaban, he was also working with a member of the Patriotic Nigras to reverse engineer one of the emergency signals so that the Patriotic Nigras could either break into our database or destroy our ability to communicate with one another.
There has been a quixotic campaign in the Herald of late, to perform a character assassination of myself and the Justice League. Two articles were penned by Nikola Shirakawa, decrying me as the root of all evil in Second Life. Nikola himself was a member of the Justice League, and when it became clear to him that he could not commandeer the group to his own purposes, decided he would attempt to destroy it instead. He used his inside access to feed a near-continuous stream of information to the Patriotic Nigras. When caught, he at first tried to shift the blame to innocent League members to avoid having to face the music. Once ejected, he committed dozens of acts of disclosure within Second Life and received a suspension for that. He also published my personal information in such specific and great detail in the Herald that he would have gotten an instant permaban had he done these things in Second Life. He uses the Herald as a shield to commit acts of aggression against myself and others without fear of consequences.
He formed the Free Fandom Project. This was to make science fiction and media fandom more accessible to the average fan – these things should be free, he said. This appeared very noble. Four months later, he wrote a letter of resignation complaining that the members all wanted things for free and weren’t contributing, and complained that he was perfectly justified in taking the free things that others had donated to his group and selling them on SLExchange for a personal profit.
He called this a “service fee”, but what had actually happened was that he, once again, had gotten caught with his hand in the cookie-jar, having said one thing and then doing the opposite.
We once had a picture of the Teen Titans Unlimited in the Justice League Watchtower – however, this had been taken down in August of 2007. The only “recently ejected JLU” that could have seen it to report its existence to Ms. Mason would have been Nikola Shirakawa, so this very directly identifies this article as yet another attempt by Nikola to take his revenge on the people he once counted as his friends, and then betrayed.
Nikola was ejected from the League – let’s see now – it would have been over half a year ago, and he still hasn’t gotten over it, and he’s still deeply engaged in his complex (though transparent) vendetta against both myself and the Justice League.
His vendetta, these articles and the vitriolic posts, arent’ about the saving civilization as we know it from the “evil” Justice League – a group of teachers, doctors, lawyers and creative professionals from all walks of life who have come together in the common goal of trying to make Second Life a better place for its residents. It’s about Nikola Shirakawa, Tizzers Foxchase and others being angry
about getting caught doing something they know in their hearts they’re not supposed to have been doing, and being forced to take responsibility for their own actions.
And because the League reports what we see to the people who can evaluate their actions and do something about them, we’re “evil”. Almost without exception, the posts here in the Herald against me and the Justice League have been made by people who have had to face the music as an indirect result of our actions. Since they cannot do anything to the Lindens, they take aim at us instead.
Shoot the messenger.
We’re not the bad guys here. Let me illuminate.
The “bad guys” are those people who make us afraid to stand up for what’s right, because we might be the victims of character assassination in public if we try it.
The bad guys are those who make us distrust joy and dread victory, because of the retribution it might bring, who make us hide in our holes and sit on our hands, doing nothing instead of rising up.
The bad guys are those who try to stamp out every scrap of generosity, and decency, openness and courage, who’ve made reaching upward to something more, to try to lift those around them nothing more than an an exercise in futility. They have taken hope and made it a horrible thing, to be feared and shunned, and bound and gagged it and thrown it into the abyss.
The bad guys belittle caring about your fellows, standing squarely in the sun and speaking the truth, and tell you that the only possible path is despair. They make us forget what we are capable of as God’s creations, and we turn our backs on what we could become and what we could truly accomplish. We lie hidden in the half light and when somebody comes along to tell us it doesn’t have to be that way, we cover our ears because we’re just as sure that it does.
They want us to stop caring and surrender to all this, because hope is dead – we should surrender instead of fighting, because there’s nothing we can do, and never will be.
Why did we pick comic books as our theme? Why not more police, another SWAT team, another fake FBI group? Or just plain clothes?
The flashy costumes and comic book personnae are a lot of fun – if it wasn’t fun, we wouldn’t do it. But they do more than that. These costumes are a part of our culture. They stand for something people want to believe in. They represent truth, and justice. We’re more than people in brightly colored costumes. By wearing these costumes, we become symbols of hope – not only to other residents of Second Life, but to each other as well. They remind us of what being on the side of good is really all about.
When I first came to Second Life, I didn’t realize how much like real life this place can be. This virtual world is populated by the complete spectrum of humanity. The vast majority are generous, thoughtful, intelligent and caring. A few, however, take delight in tormenting others. It’s these few that can destroy the very fabric of this virtual society.
So when you read the posts that will surely follow this one, think about all this. We don’t have to be afraid to stand up for what’s right and just and true in the world. We don’t have to let other people push us back into the darkness for trying to make the world a better place. And we don’t have to be afraid to join together in that common goal.
Let us not allow those who carry hate in their hearts to dissuade us. Our allies are still truth, and justice, and hope. And above all, our faith and belief in each other.
The Justice League still exists and is thriving despite all that’s happened – and despite everything that’s happened to me at the hands of Nikola Shirakawa, Tizzers Foxchase and people like them, I still believe.
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Okay – go ahead and start posting lies and vitriol, and get it out of your systems. But you should really consider just letting go of it and moving on. Hate is a luxury no one can afford – it taxes you, and takes your energies away from the important things in your lives that really need your attention – like your families, your relationships, your jobs and your schoolwork. Think about the futures you have and what you’re sacrificing.
All the griefers I have known have far greater potential than they realize – even the really heinous ones. Everyone has something in them that makes them worthwhile. Take a moment, and breath for a while, and find that something, and spend some of that boundless energy on something that will do you some good.
- Kalel
Robert
Jan 17th, 2008
/self important rant.
Tl;DR
Spazm
Jan 17th, 2008
The commie award? So what you’re saying is that Kalel Venkman wins the communist of the week award? Okay, I agree with that.
Cut the crap, Venkman. You and your colorfully dressed peers aren’t here for “the common good”. You may have had good intentions originally, but your entire group is now simply in a desperate bid for power.
And in the game of power, you will NEVER rise above the PN.
Madelena Rossini
Jan 18th, 2008
“All the griefers I have known have far greater potential than they realize – even the really heinous ones. Everyone has something in them that makes them worthwhile. Take a moment, and breath for a while, and find that something, and spend some of that boundless energy on something that will do you some good.
- Kalel”
You know Kalel I can honestly say that I was deeply moved by a lot of what you said in this post. I too stand for truth and justice, for honesty and freedom and hope. I am also pleased to see that you recognize the potential that lies within each and every individual human being, and behind each and every avatar in Second Life. My question to you is this: At what point do we give up on an individual and say they have nothing left to contribute? Who are we to pass judgment on others and tell them to move on and move out of our way? No matter how bitter and cynical we may become when encountering the flaws which exist in human nature, let us not forget that we are called to forgive 70 x 70 x 70. The ball is in your court…
anon1
Jan 18th, 2008
Hear hear! We must stop the PN from impurifying our precious bodily fluids.
Holy shit, Kalel. It’s a fucking game. This is either some incredibly deep roleplaying or a sign that you should pick a different hobby.
GreenLantern Excelsior
Jan 18th, 2008
Having grown up during the Cold War, the word “Commie” means “Communist” to me, and that was a very bad thing when it referred to the government of our enemy the Soviet Union. So I was all ready to come in here and say something mean. But now I see it means “Comment of the Week,” and I agree with the award because it was a great speech. So, like Rosanne Rosanna Danna, it’s time to say “Never mind!”
Lao-Tzu
Jan 18th, 2008
***yawn*** could not stay awake long enough to read the entire comment by Kalel Venkman . I began snoring at paragraph 27 and now I have a stream of drool that connects my lower lip to the keyboard… What day is this ??????? I think I have developed bed sores from sitting at the computer too long.
Could someone please provide a Cliff’s Notes version for me? No doubt he had something interesting to say in that thesis. My scroll wheel incerated as well while reading as the friction produced a small fire during the non-stop scroll-down .
I hope this does not start a trend where readers feel the need to type a 42 paragraph comment in order to win the coveted Commie award.
Prokofy Neva
Jan 18th, 2008
Oh, so Tizzers is really a he? I didn’t know. It had never occurred to me.
Yet another example of a man cross-dressing as a woman in SL who specifically targets me, as transgendered in SL.
Examples abound, all over. Right here *cough*.
Why?
They hate our freedom.
anon
Jan 18th, 2008
Really? All I’m hearing is “bawwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww.”
Yiffy Yaffle
Jan 18th, 2008
After the way JLU treated me a year ago for a reason i still don’t know even to this day, all i gotta say is Kalel’s words make me wanna hurl… He talks about justice and freedom, yet he’s hardly the person to lead such a role. He allows himself to be told what to do by griefers like angel fluffy, who love to damage innocent peoples reputation like mine. He also doesn’t stay within the rules, in situations like re-scripting weapons so they backfire which would actually make him the one who griefed.
When i joined SL it took me 6 months to get my foot on the latter of success. Since then i worked my way up and became a security head for a popular furry sim. I guarded it with my life and became a estate manager. A year ago angel and kalel removed me from a lot of that success, by using their power over the people, to tell them i was not to be trusted. Didn’t give anyone any answers as to why. People believed them over me because i don’t have the kind of power they got.
Now here i am a has been who tries to gain enough money to pay my rent each month… Without any ties to anything… And i still don’t know why. All i know is once i made it up that latter i got knocked off by a couple of powerhogs. I respect the members of JLU i just don’t like kalel. I had a lot of friends in JLU when i was a member a year ago. I still have some of them as friends to this day.
Darthblueafro
Jan 18th, 2008
getting prok riled up is easy. all you do is stand there. she will freak and ban you from the land. then assume you are playing tricks on her by “dancing” in the parcel next to it.
she said it herself in one of the older herald articles.( if someone can link that forward that be great because i don’t want to read back pages to find it myself)unfortunately for her she does not understand the fact that when you are banned from someones land you are moved the the closest area to it.also the picture does not shot ANY form of griefing or trolling being done. azzu is just floating there. above the water. even normal people do that.
i went and took a look there myself at the exact same location given in the picture.and in order for prok to take a picture from there she would have had to be in the water with azzu. so who went to who? the only thing we CAN assume is that azzu was at carlisle at 6:33 SL time. so this picture could have been taken from anyone. fact she had a mudkip hand puppet on has no real relevance whatsoever to that matter. also what exactly is being typed at the bottom? i don’t speak moon speak. all i want is clear as day proof that azzu at that time was actually with prok. and was trolling her. nothing else matters.
WitnessX
Jan 18th, 2008
-”There has been a quixotic campaign in the Herald of late, to perform a character assassination of myself and the Justice League.”
You have assassinated your own character, Kalel. The Herald is just bringing this to light.
-”I have been told by Lindens that the chat logs bore this out.”
This is a disturbing comment. You have just publicly admitted that the Lindens intentionally disclosed information about one resident to another resident.
-”The “bad guys” are those people who make us afraid to stand up for what’s right, because we might be the victims of character assassination in public if we try it.”
By your own definition, YOU ARE THE BAD GUY. People are afraid to stand up against you because they fear ending up banned just like Tizzers was.
-”He also published my personal information in such specific and great detail in the Herald that he would have gotten an instant permaban had he done these things in Second Life.”
How about that Brainiac wiki of yours? If you are so righteous, open it up for the entire world to see. I’m sure you don’t have anything to hide, right?
-”They want us to stop caring and surrender to all this, because hope is dead – we should surrender instead of fighting, because there’s nothing we can do, and never will be.”
You are the reason people grief.
Archie Lukas
Jan 18th, 2008
silly title
just go with letter of the week
or blog of the week
or
even better
Blog of the Weak
Chav Paderborn
Jan 18th, 2008
Waaaait, Tizzers is a man? Just today someone told me she’s deffo a woman IRLs.
“We’re more than people in brightly colored costumes. By wearing these costumes, we become symbols of hope” = A+ comment, would LOL again.
Fuck You Prok
Jan 18th, 2008
“Yet another example of a man cross-dressing as a woman in SL who specifically targets me, as transgendered in SL.”
Listen up you waste of fucking skin, you spew out hate-filled bile and attack people’s sexuality when it suits you, then you hide behind this transgendered tag. It’s a total fucking smokescreen. You add nothing to the transgendered community and are actively reviled inside it because of your bullshit. You are no more transgendered than some fat trucker pretending to be a stripper so he can get with other “lesbians”.
Oh but it’s your AV that’s transgendered right? Nice try you fucking shitbag hypocrite. Just FOAD.
Anonymous to avoid complications
Jan 18th, 2008
I can honestly say that was a pretty good speech. Though some aspects ARE disturbing as witnessX pointed out. But I believe in the general message you tried to give, and i believe you believe those words. But actions speak louder than words, and your personal actions, not your organization (your organization is a decent one though a bit too militant for people that are simply supposed to report griefings to the true authroity in SL, the Lindens. But irregardless the people in it are good people with a few bad eggs), but your actions simply are not those of a hero.
A hero is not there to judge someone else, they are there for compassion and with ever shining hope of rehabilitation. A hero is not condecending, which in turn drives alot of these “griefers” into taking it to the next level. A hero should always be aware that they are meant to inspire, not critque others when they do not meet to your standards. Forgiveness is a requirement not something to be doled out as a reward.
When I saw you got this award for your comment, I was agast at what I saw. But after reading it I can see why, it was eloquently written. But words are words, and action is action.
You have done some very good things in SL. But these become tarnished with the witch hunts, the slander, and judgemental nature you secretly portray when you think you are just amoungst friends. If you were simply content to help others you would not have to respond in this manner, nor would there be negative articles written about you (based on fact or slander).
Simply put you put yourself in the limelight when all you should have been content with was helping others out. You self proclaim your actions noble when in fact they are what any resident should do when they see griefers. You are just a bit more organized about it. Only when you stop tooting your own horn will you in essence become a hero, which IS a thankless job, so don’t expect any.
I don’t know about some of these people who claim you ruined them for your own personal gains. Your words say no, but your past actions say another so this one would tend to believe them because that is the reputation you have cultivated. Undeserved or not it is how the public eye views you (and no just because they see you negatively they are NOT griefers. I myself am not a griefer and try to help people at all cost.) And you will get such ridicule, and such negative attention.
If you stop responding they go away. Let your actions speak for you and be the better man. This comment should not be commended because once again it is you saying what good you’ve done, when what you should have done was nothing at all, as long as you, and your friends continue to strive to do good that should all that matters. You would THEN be making a difference.
DaveOner
Jan 18th, 2008
“azzu is just floating there. above the water. even normal people do that.” should have won the award.
But yeah Kael’s comment was lame. I think he’s Prok’s alt by the way he meddles in other people’s lives and just fucking rambles on and on in his comments.
And I know this whole “Commie” thing is completely a joke by this…
“Here at the Herald we maintain the highest possible standards of journalism and literary arts.”
GreenLantern Excelsior
Jan 18th, 2008
“This is a disturbing comment. You have just publicly admitted that the Lindens intentionally disclosed information about one resident to another resident.”
Wrong. Tizzers Foxchase is not a Second Life resident.
“By your own definition, YOU ARE THE BAD GUY. People are afraid to stand up against you because they fear ending up banned just like Tizzers was.”
And yet the Herald is full of hate-filled comments and outright lies (like yours) about Kalel and the JLU. Fearless comments. If people were afraid, as you say, there would be only silence.
“You are the reason people grief.”
They said they were only in it for the lulz.
Artemis Fate
Jan 18th, 2008
You know, that would have been some speech, if it were pertaining to anything that really mattered. If it had been around fighting Genocide in Africa, or stopping us from nuking the fuck out of each other, or just dealing with minor gang crime in real life. It would have been really something. But it’s about a virtual world where at worst people are just mildly inconvenienced, against a bunch of people who spam crap or bug you which can be solved quite easily with mute and no build options, perpetrated by people who dress up in Spandex to “battle” these people, despite the fact that they have no real power more so than anyone else to do it. Considering that, I just found the speech a bit self-important and ridiculous.
You know what the problem is with the real JLU? The one from the comics? They labeled themselves the ultimate good, and decided they’d do whatever it takes to expand their concept (and self-belief of) ultimate good to everyone. So they take it upon themselves to build a giant space station with information on everyone and the capability to spy on people, as well as having an army that can’t be stopped by any of the governments of the world that they casually interject into all walks of life across the world without any real permission. Sounds like the budding of fascism to me.
Good and Evil is subjective, it’s when one person decides that they are good, and not only that, but that their good is so ultimate that it must be enforced on others to make the world a better place, that you get tyrants and “evil” like that.
Corona
Jan 18th, 2008
why is it we only ever see or hear of the JLU and the PN in the herald?
outside the Herald they dont even ripple the surface of SL
they are that insignificant
A-Non-E-Moose
Jan 18th, 2008
I’m not really sure what personal actions of Venkman’s “Anonymous to avoid complications” is talking about. All this talk about Venkman banning people from SL, enacting witchhunts, and griefing himself is bullshit griefer propaganda. You should be embarrassed that you fell for it. If the Lindens believed that Venkman and crew were the notorious villains that the PN trolls, Shirakawa, Tizzers, et. al. portray them to be, don’t you think they would have taken some action? Are you so deluded that you think the JLU has any more power in SL than any other resident because some butt hurt griefer who lost his 20-minute old alt told you so on the HERALD?!? What the hell is it that you think anti-griefer groups like the JLU and GLC do? I’ll clarify for you:
They use the AR system to report infractions of the TOS and CS (just like any other resident can); then the LINDENS make a determination whether the report has any VALIDITY based on EVIDENCE and SERVER LOGS and take appropriate action. Its just not possible for Venkman or any other resident or group to ban someone from SL. If someone got reprimanded, suspended or banned by Linden Labs, you can bet there was a valid reason and a paper trail. Wake up and welcome to reality.
Kiddoh
Jan 18th, 2008
Oioi~ You people bend the truth more than politicians and Listerine ads. Do you seriously write these articles for the good of the people and for the sake of knowledge? How do people benefit from reading this article?
Nothing you said was credible at all. It’s just some opinionated write-up with absolutely no attention to the facts, false conclusions, and no substance. How could you not have known Tizzers is a woman and yet claim to have knowledge of her that even her closest friends don’t know about? You’re just one big scam!
Alyx Stoklitsky
Jan 18th, 2008
Prokofy:
“Yet another example of a man cross-dressing as a woman in SL who specifically targets me, as transgendered in SL.”
You can cut that shit right now.
Do you HONESTLY think your targetting has ANYTHING to do with the fact that you play a differently gendered avatar?
It can assure you that it is completely, 100%, irrelevant.
Kalel Venkman:
“Let us not allow those who carry hate in their hearts to dissuade us.”
Last I checked, it was YOU who muted ME.
I don’t recall ever being particularly hateful towards you.
Good GOD, woman.
Green Lantern Excelsior
“Wrong. Tizzers Foxchase is not a Second Life resident.”
Erm… How do you work that out?
Not only was the statement in question made long before Tizzers was banned, the fact that Tizzers is NOW banned makes absolutely no difference whatsoever.
Anonymous
Jan 18th, 2008
Oh wow, lovely waking up to the scent of bullshit in the morning.
Kalel, if you honestly cared about freedom, you’d try to work with people more than you do, you tend to ignore people because they’re “hopeless” or report random people on sight because you think they might do something.
The whole thing with woodbury and tizzers foxchase could have been avoided very very easily if you had sat down and discussed things. instead of you decided to keep communication on the down low and enforced your own draconian measures against her and Woodbury’s sim, reported anything you saw from Linden land instead of reporting it to the sim owner, and assuming everyone there were griefers and that was that. Why didnt you? Oh right, you ASSUMED that the sim owner wouldnt do anything. In fact other mods even listed in their profiles “REPORT TO US.” You ignored all that because you assumed everyone was in on it. You know the funny part, Kalel? Woodbury actually ended up being hated by the PN because many of the top members defected because woodbury offered a constructive environment. I witnessed this first hand. Oh and the “griefer tests” you’ve referred to? yanno, testing their weapons in woodbury and all? that was the PN attacking the damn sim.
We had an open door policy and they’d convince the then-naive tizzers foxchase that they were interested in the school. Then when none of the mods were around, they’d crash the sim repeatedly. So, you know, if you were all for justice, you might have sat down and discussed the issues and maybe offered some helpful advice instead of going on the warpath.
Oh right, you don’t care about justice, you needed your bad guy so you matter. Without bad guys, you’re just as pointless as all the other anti-griefer groups out there.
Now that Tizzers is gone, who’s gonna be your next target? getting Nikola completely banned from Second Life? Ripping apart the reputation of cid jacobs and the GLC, try to get their sims taken away from them because “They dont deserve them?”
If you were at all understanding, you wouldnt put people on your axis of evil because they rub you the wrong way. I’m sorry, but no amount of bullshitting will hide your actions. Publically you’ve reacted in obvious ways against people who have done nothing wrong other than do what you dont like and then create a campaign to illustrate them as the ultimate evil on the grid and they must be wiped out.
Oh what about yiffy yaffle? You dont seem to like to talk about him much, how you, for little or no reason made him out as public enemy number 1 before you set your sights on woodbury and created a campaign to rip him apart. Was he your test of power? Your reassurance that you could push people around?
In any case, this article is full of shit, and everyone can see it, the fact you more or less admitted that Lindens give you the inside scoop is very bad for your credibility, as it is for Linden Labs, oh and let’s nix this “Lindens” moniker and call him by his name, Plexus Linden. Who is more or less your personal hand of god. if you want power wielded, you go to him. He tries to play dumb and neutral about working with you, but he gives it away as well.
I personally hope both of you get your comeuppance.
You’re both lower than a snake’s balls.
Penny Sautereau
Jan 18th, 2008
To anyone applauding the JLU becase it’s intentions are good even though they act deplorably?
Old saying…
“The road to hell is paved with good intentions”.
Yiffy Yaffle
Jan 18th, 2008
I agree Kiddoh. Not everyone buys Kalel’s bullshit. I know i don’t. Sounds just like those Asian Gold Farmer companies to me. “Buy cheap WoW gold! It’s 100% safe! You can trust us!” >.>
If you’ve seen Kalel like I have, you wouldn’t trust him either. Same for his buddy Angel Fluffy. I have a pretty clean account record. I never do anything to hurt anyone, unless they hurt me.
I’ve mostly tried to keep out of Kalel’s affairs, but theres only so much bullshit you can listen too ya know? Anyway whatever happens happens i guess.
Kalel Venkman
Jan 18th, 2008
The posts I’ve seen are pretty much what I expected to so far. And as I predicted – with the exception of Yiffy Yaffle – they’re all from people who have been sanctioned by the Lindens in some way for their anti-social, belligerent or downright dangerous activities.
Keep posting – get it all out of your systems. It’s a good catharsis.
Kalel Venkman
Jan 19th, 2008
That’s a confirmed match – Penny Sautereau is in fact just another one of Nikola Shirakawa’s alts. He’s talking to himself back and forth using three different aliases that we’ve confirmed so far.
Honestly, pretty transparent, Niko – don’t you have homework that needs your attention? You’re really not helping yourself by keeping this up. You were released from the League over six months ago – it’s really really time to move on.
Anonymous
Jan 19th, 2008
Hey Kalel, stop talking like you’re the word of god.
By the way, I have asked random people on the grid, people who have nothing to do with woodbury, just out of curiosity, just to see if you were right or not, about the JLU, and most have a negative view of your group and see you all as nothing more than a bunch of nosy powermongers who are bored and want to tell everyone else what to do, same with most other anti-griefers.
You dont need an anti-griefing group to do what you do, which is sit around and fill out AR’s, which anyone can do, I’ve successfully rid a sim I lived in once of PN items and the griefers themselves by myself. I even tipped off one of your subordinates once about the sim I was in being a constant target (I dont know if it still is or not) and no one ever did a thing. Which is why I can honestly say, you’re not in this for helping others, but for your own power gains. You watch the sandboxes because there are lots of people there, and it’s an easy place to score some bans so you look like you’re being effective.
Meanwhile, you’re also busy buddying up with Lindens to wield your personal morality hammer on people you personally dont like or dont see as “worthy” of playing SL. get over yourself and stop acting like your very voice is law. You’re in the same boat as the rest of us.
Madelena Rossini
Jan 19th, 2008
Kalel,
How have I ever been ‘sanctioned by the Lindens for my anti-social, belligerent or dangerous behavior?’ I think you conveniently overlook the fact that people are engaging in this conversation who are upstanding members of the SL community and yet do not agree with your methods with regards to security. Oh, and before you mention the fact that I have recently become a faculty member at the real life Woodbury University, all that does is tell you that I have a little bit of insight into what makes Woodbury so unique. Check out http://metaversemuse.blogspot.com/ for my reflections regarding this. Unlike some of the people who are speaking here, I have absolutely no desire to see your head on a platter. I do however applaud “anonymous to avoid complication” who defined for us what it means to be a true hero, and hope that you are able in the midst of this to recover something of your roots. I hope that you are able to find within yourself a passion to enable people to truly be the people they were created to be and not discard them as trash before their time.
Yiffy Yaffle
Jan 19th, 2008
I’m shocked but glad kalel doesn’t count me in that category. After the grief Angel caused me and Kalel had a hand in, I figured it was because i mated/partnered with Sha. If that’s the reason, it’s the dumbest reason ever. Sure i partnered a untrustworthy person, but that doesn’t make me one too. You gotta get to know a person before you judge them. Sha and I broke up the relationship before Halloween. I had enough of the cheating, and everyone’s grudges over things they shouldn’t even concern themselves over. I moved on and found a new partner. But whatever real reason it was i still don’t know and probably never will. But i will be sort of a thorn until i get a apology and the truth. The damage to my second life has been done and is probably irreversible though…
Alyx Stoklitsky
Jan 19th, 2008
Anon:
“In fact other mods even listed in their profiles “REPORT TO US.” You ignored all that because you assumed everyone was in on it. You know the funny part, Kalel? Woodbury actually ended up being hated by the PN because many of the top members defected because woodbury offered a constructive environment. I witnessed this first hand. Oh and the “griefer tests” you’ve referred to? yanno, testing their weapons in woodbury and all? that was the PN attacking the damn sim.”
This is perhaps the most accurate post I have read here so far.
It is absolutely, 100% true, and the section I have quote is a particularly important one as it addresses two key factors:
1. The Woodbury staff (Of whom I am one) recieved virtually no aid whatsoever in keeping their group clean of griefers. For months I requested that people report things to me, and yet in all that time, I was probably made aware of perhaps 2 alts. TWO! There were dozens!
2.There were absolutely NO ‘weapon tests’ in the Woodbury sim. The ‘weapon tests’ were simply PN attacks. Anyone caught crashing it intentionally recieved a swift sim/group ban and an abuse report.
Kalel:
“The posts I’ve seen are pretty much what I expected to so far. And as I predicted – with the exception of Yiffy Yaffle – they’re all from people who have been sanctioned by the Lindens in some way for their anti-social, belligerent or downright dangerous activities.”
Meanwhile, Yiffy Yaffle was only ‘sanctioned’ by you and Angel Fluffy.
Anonymous
Jan 19th, 2008
Oh I’d like to point out how you accuse everyone on the herald of character assassination.
Pot meet kettle.
L
Jan 19th, 2008
I’m going to imitate Prok for a nice TL;DR moment, since I rarely ever get to type much, let alone refute so many blatantly wrong and ignorant posts.
“Wrong. Tizzers Foxchase is not a Second Life resident.”
Yes, but Tizzers WAS a resident when the information was disclosed, thus LL has violated its own policy. With their draconian information retainment and their partnering with Integrity/Aristotle, you’re all going to be one mouse-click away from having your identity stolen.
To “A-Non-E-Moose’s” TL;DR comment:
Lol, if you’re not trolling and that’s what you really believe, then I almost feel sorry for you. There’s a reason that the JLU have been banned from countless parcels of land. They plant chat relays into random innocuous objects, they place items that track avatars across the grid, and have huge Brainiac wiki indexes of anyone or everyone they ever meet. Angel Fluffy and his little groups also do the same sorts of things.
Your definition of griefer is sorely lacking in full detail. A griefer is a person that harasses other players within a game universe using the laws and coding of the game to their advantage. Sound familiar? As a member of the PN, I consider myself more of a troll, but we also fall into the clear definition of griefer, to which Angel Fluffy, the JLU/GLC and the other “Anti-Griefer” forces, and even Intlibber and Maldavius fall into. The difference between PN and these types of griefers is that Linden Labs won’t do anything about them because as we have seen in the past, LL plays the favorite game. Plexus Linden is completely in the JLU’s pocket, he even made them a lovely little platform in Sandbox Cordova and handed sandbox ownership completely to them.
As for deciding who bans who, LL doesn’t really go through the work, they just take the JLU’s word for it so that they can speed ban whoever they can find. This has resulted in countless innocents being banned, which is really funny to us: seeing LL turn away their own potential customers due to absolute fear and paranoia of what we are truly capable of. Ever notice how since the PN arrived that the steady stream of spacebux has turned into a trickle?
Also, Alyx is completely correct. We targeted Woodbury intentionally, because we had discerned that we were not welcome in their midsts, and discovered they had actually hired the JLU onto their group for security purposes at one point, which I noticed the JLU doesn’t want to talk about. Woodbury practically BEGGED for assistance, but instead of actually helping them, the JLU relentlessly griefed them. Kara Timtam used to teleport into the corner of Woodbury and crash it just to stop us, when none of us were even there. The JLU effectively griefed Woodbury, and it came to a climax when Maldavius got mod permissions and went on a rampage across the sim. Kalel officially sanctioned his actions, but quickly stepped away from him when as they say, “the shit hit the fan.” Months after the PN completely abandoned WU, WU was wiped off of the map by Kalel. MISSION ACCOMPLISHED, right? Wrong. The PN only increased operations and attacks, and we continue to do so, finding a steady stream of membership from the angered and disillusioned ranks of former SLfags and land owners. The spies, who were once the bane of PN’s existence, have become nothing more than small gnats, posting IRC chatlogs of nothing, and spoiling operations that never actually exist or are performed at differing times. They are a boon to us, as they keep the misinformation alive. Many of those very members that quit SL due to people like the JLU became some of our greatest allies and weapons. They become just like us, true revolutionaries on the path to the Internet Hate Machine.
The screams of anger are our nourishment.
The tears of anguish quench our thirst.
We are Anonymous, We are Legion.
We do not Forgive, We do not Forget.
We are Justice, We are Vengeance.
We are All, We are None.
Witness 24
Jan 19th, 2008
It’s pretty amusing that someone has to spoof Kalel’s name to keep this pathetic thread going. Anonymous, you have so much mis-information in your last post that the tears are rolling down my cheeks from laughter. Srsly, where do you get this stuff? Looks like a lot of BAWWWWW! to me.
Artemis Fate
Jan 19th, 2008
“The posts I’ve seen are pretty much what I expected to so far. And as I predicted – with the exception of Yiffy Yaffle – they’re all from people who have been sanctioned by the Lindens in some way for their anti-social, belligerent or downright dangerous activities.”
Glad you’re trying to group all detractors in a conveniently little category for your digestion, but what “anti-social, belligerent, or downright dangerous activities”, I’m curious to know, have you decided that I’m involved in? Since obviously, if I wasn’t, then I’d only be able to rant about the glory, truth, and justice of the JLU. Since obviously everyone who disagrees or thinks your little superhero anti-griefer pajama-party is kinda ridiculous MUST be some sort of griefer.
L
Jan 19th, 2008
oh hai Witness 24, or should I say, Maldavius?
Witness X
Jan 19th, 2008
Wasn’t Penny S the girl who said about Nikola, quote
“Oh and for the record, the “Free Fandom Project” is the brainchild of Marcus Propero. Anyone else claiming to be behind it, let alone stealing and selling donated items is a fraud. Whether anyone has ACTUALLY done this I neither know nor care, but the actual Free Fandom Project is very much a GOOD thing, and Marcus runs it honestly.”
which one of those comments that led him to abandon the Free Fandom Project? And talking back and forth with himself? Just where do you see his name as having posted on here? Paranoid much?
Penny Sautereau
Jan 19th, 2008
*just laughs*
“The posts I’ve seen are pretty much what I expected to so far. And as I predicted – with the exception of Yiffy Yaffle – they’re all from people who have been sanctioned by the Lindens in some way for their anti-social, belligerent or downright dangerous activities.”
Indeed? Funny, I’ve never once been reprimanded, warned, chastised or even spoken to by a Linden anywhere anytime ever, because I behave myself.
“That’s a confirmed match – Penny Sautereau is in fact just another one of Nikola Shirakawa’s alts. He’s talking to himself back and forth using three different aliases that we’ve confirmed so far.
Honestly, pretty transparent, Niko – don’t you have homework that needs your attention? You’re really not helping yourself by keeping this up. You were released from the League over six months ago – it’s really really time to move on.”
I am? Funny, no one told me. But Thanks to Kal El for proving his detractors right. After all, all I’ve done was post my observations that his OWN behaviour proves he’s the paqranoid bully everyone thinks he is and that he needs to get his head out of his ass to see what he’s doing. People warned that when anyone says this about him, even an innocent bystander like me, he’ll begin a smear campaign. So apparently I’m someone else’s alt now and he has proof. I’d personally love to see what he thinks constitutes proof.
My expressing concern at a notice of intent to commit suicide?
My pointing out who runs the Free Fandom project?
My donating some of my teeshirts TO the free fandom project?
Do tell Kal? Let’s please see your clearly paranoid Fox Muldar mind at work. I’d love to see this.
Witness 24
Jan 19th, 2008
“oh hai Witness 24, or should I say, Maldavius?”
Pfft, hardly! That assumption is even more amusing than your last post.
just sayin'
Jan 19th, 2008
do you know how short the list of peeps is from sl that call kalel “kal el”?
Kahni Poitier
Jan 19th, 2008
“We’re more than people in brightly colored costumes. By wearing these costumes, we become symbols of hope”
That’s funnier than listening to the furries.
Artemis Fate
Jan 19th, 2008
“do you know how short the list of peeps is from sl that call kalel “kal el”?”
You DO realize that “Kal El” is the proper spelling of Superman’s real name from which Kalel obviously derives his SL name right? So you don’t have to be a part of a secret society of evil to mistakenly call him that.
Captain Tightpants
Jan 19th, 2008
“We’re more than people in brightly colored costums……”
We’re people in brightly colord costumes who are fail and full of aids… come fap with us to the music of brainiac as we tp through the intergrids….
Trudeethreedee
Jan 20th, 2008
Wowies.
All the worst of SL’s self important idiots represented in one thread. Anybody got an extra canister of cyanide gas?
Closeted PN gayboys waxing Palpatine-esque, nerds in tights who think they are super heroes because they discovered how to abuse report people, and disheveled cat ladies blathering about freedom. It’s no small wonder that when I talk to people who are aware of SL, but don’t play it, have a prejudiced negative impression of it.
Wire, briar, limber-lock
Three geese in a flock
One flew east, one flew west
And one flew over the cuckoo’s nest.
Hewee Zetkin
Jan 20th, 2008
> So apparently I’m someone else’s alt now and he has proof. I’d personally love to see what he thinks constitutes proof.
How about Linden Labs’ public server logs; your (rather blank) profile and that of an open enrollment group? Just in case anyone missed it in the other thread, why don’t we spread the wealth?
You absoultely sure about that claim of not having an alt, Penny? Maybe you have an alt you’ve used in the last seven months or so? Otherwise, how can you know what’s going on in our virtual world–and come even close to knowing what the heck you are talking about–if you haven’t logged in since last June? I’m even wondering what you know about SL at all, when your maximum in-world time was spent over the period of a month.
I’m sure you’ll login sometime today, to catch up on your user experience a little and add some credibility. With that in mind, I’ve taken the liberty of including a screenshot URL, so our friends the readers here will know what I am talking about.
http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/9343/pennyjoinandlastlogindabh7.jpg
Have you just been been “Fox Muldered” (yes, with an E)? Please, let’s watch the lies pile up some more as you try to backpedal. It’ll be interesting.
Witness X
Jan 20th, 2008
OK, that suggests that there might be two Penny S. accounts floating around. Great sleuth work there. But the Fox Mulder shit she was most likely referring to,
(sorry had to correct your consistent misspelling my dear.)
is your connection of either of these accounts with that of Nikola Shirakawa. Just because someone has an alt account, or might be an alt themselves , does not mean they’re all this one guy. Trying to write off all opponents as part of this vast alt conspiracy from one person is paranoid and delusional.
Witness X
Jan 20th, 2008
Furthermore, I believe Penny here to be abbreviating her name. If you will look up the name “Penance Sautereau”, you will see a much more active and recent profile. I’m sure Penny can back me up that this is her real account, as much of the information on it, including her first life information, you will find perfectly matches what she’s said here. Check and mate, Justice Lords.
Witness X
Jan 20th, 2008
http://www.geocities.com/ann.montana/realpennys.jpg
Could this be the real Penny who has in fact been active all this time? all signs point to yes! Congratulations Zetkin. You proved there is somebody with a similar name. Now let’s really see the Mulder shit and have you link either of these two with each other, and then to Nikola Shirakawa. Oh wait, maybe it would make more sense to your feeble little Justice Lord mind if we put it in your terminology. Go put on a Question avatar and concoct some bullshit theory for us. We’ll be waiting.
Artemis Fate
Jan 20th, 2008
@HEWEE
“I’m sure you’ll login sometime today, to catch up on your user experience a little and add some credibility. With that in mind, I’ve taken the liberty of including a screenshot URL, so our friends the readers here will know what I am talking about.
http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/9343/pennyjoinandlastlogindabh7.jpg
Have you just been been “Fox Muldered” (yes, with an E)? Please, let’s watch the lies pile up some more as you try to backpedal. It’ll be interesting.”
You ARE aware that the “last login date” for groups has been glitchy for sometime and prone to displaying incorrect information, right? In this case, it says she last logged in June of 2007, well I can personally vouch as to seeing her November 10th, 2007 in person, after she accused me of being a troll in that attack article in November, and I was teleported down to talk to her about it after an IM conversation.
Penance
Jan 20th, 2008
BWA HA HA HA!!!
Kal you idiot, you just pwned yourself. Penny is shortform for PENANCE you simpering delusional gestapo whackjob! AHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
The TINIEST bit of research would’ve shown you that! All you had to do was look up my Post 6 appearance! Ohhh god! The laughter is killing me! AHAHAHA!!!
My SL name is Penance Sautereau! Hell I even spelled it out in my post pointing it out and asking you for proof! I wondered what the hell you were on about mentioning my blank profile, since my profile ran out of space and I had to continue the “about me” in my Picks! Good god man do you realize you have just singlehandedly discredited yourself for all time by proving exactly how paranoid and sloppy you are? And how easily duped BY your own paranoia? “Penny Sautereau” may indeed be someone else’s alt. But I’m PENANCE Sautereau. I sign as Penny because it’s what everyone I know calls me, when I can’t be bothered to log into my typekey/pad account to post a comment, I just leave it as Penny, but I don’t have Penny Sautereau as an alt on SL, it was already taken so I used Penance. My god, Ohhhhhh you just gave everyone who hates you the perfect ammunition to destroy you Kal. Next time put a little elbow grease into your smear campaigns, I mea come on! If you’re this lazy in your smear efforts, how much can anyone believe you put into anything else?
Thank you oh swami of Time-Warner Copyright Infringement, for pwning yourself. You deserve whatever you get.