Gossip, Rumors, and Cooking School
by Alphaville Herald on 09/10/08 at 12:32 am
by Idoru Wellman, staff writer and professional cooking student
rumors and gossip gathered from generally reliable alt accounts
Pixeleen dashed out of the Herald offices saying something about secret preparations for the SL Herald 5th year anniversary party later this month — and could I deal with the tips and gossip column? I didn’t mind that much – my wild mushroom risotto was not working out, and I’m used to dealing with the Herald scut work like cleaning out the nest Jimbo Quality used to sleep in back when we let him in the Herald offices.
Beside the party preparations, Pixeleen said she was busy facilitating the liquidation of some collateralized debt obligations offered by several Fur and Gorean Investment banks specializing in Second Life rental properties in Ravensglass, FurNation Hell, and Fort Longcat sims – apparently each investment was supposed to hedge the risk of default in the others, but then Hamet Au published one too many Linden Lab puff pieces which strained investor credibility to the breaking point further destabilized the futures market leading to a stampede of european Tinies shorting Stroker Serpentine’s SexGen stock in the Wapanese overseas markets, which caused the L$ spacebux denominated secondary hedge fund market to go into a powerdive — or something to that effect.
So I’m taking a break from working on the wild mushroom risotto they taught us in class today to type up the gossip column. If this doesn’t work out I’m going to try making a local specialty: grits and arugula.
Did the Electric Sheep Company and Cory Edo part company? Why don’t the sheep have a link to Cory’s blog anymore? Or is our source confused about Cory being listed on ESC blogroll back in the day? Maybe it is time for Cory update some of the web pages on her site – like this one.
By the way – did anyone else notice that the Electric Sheep no longer mention Second Life on their web site? If you did, don’t tell anyone — M Linden is trying really hard to turn things around, and Hamlet Au is with him every step of the way. Kool-Aid tastes great!
A very special wedding for two W-Hat goons – and most of the account suspensions from the wedding ceremony should be over by now
Despite the crusade of Mr. Prokofy Neva – the all-knowing, all-seeing, infallible virtual gadfly, it appears that Woodbury University is real, and is an expanding presence in SL. Woodbury now has three sims – and Intlibber Brautigan is large and in charge. Look what we found on the grounds of the Metaversity sim:
Could this mean that Mr. Neva was wrong about Woodbury University? They do seem to have an educational mission. Would anyone like to take out a loan to buy some virtual world CDOs at a special low price?
Draxamus
Oct 9th, 2008
This news is old. Lyxzen and Toast are already almost divorced!
Angel
Oct 9th, 2008
Where is Jimbo?
Curious Rousselot
Oct 9th, 2008
Ya, where is Jimbo? He is usually good for a laugh.
Witness X
Oct 9th, 2008
Well – you got part of the Woodbury rumor correct: IntLibber’s large.
However:
a) Only one sim is being operated on behalf of Woodbury. The rest are simply positioned near one another. Woodbury has not paid for three sims, only one.
b) Woodbury would not have paid for the one sim if they had any understanding of what’s been being done in their name in SL, i.e., Woodbury has been lied to, casting the legitimacy of the operation in serious doubt (as was always the case), so this doesn’t change a lot.
c) The cornerstone of this whole operation is still Tizzers Foxchase, who complains that he can’t teach class because he’s – *gasp* – BANNED FROM SECOND LIFE. So how much “teaching” do you think is really going to be taking place here?
So – Tizzers is a kid who’s been banned from SL, and can’t legally participate. It’s broadly known that IntLibber never does anything unless he can do it for money. It says so in his profile.
So what exactly is Tizzers able to provide to IntLibber for doing this? It’s not money, because that money had to come from Woodbury – money IntLibber desperately needs, if rumors of his 35 thousand dollars worth of red ink are to be believed.
So what is it?
Karl Riesman
Oct 9th, 2008
Woodbury University indeed exists, You get off the 5 at the Hollywood Way Exit (Same to go to the Burbank Airport) but go north and follow the signs. Unremarkable Corporate architecture, but it is indeed real.
Miya Butreekz
Oct 9th, 2008
@ Karl I believe the article was refering to the WU presence in SL, not the actual university itself.
@ Witness X As true as all that is, what can you do about it?
Tizzers Foxchase
Oct 9th, 2008
@Witness X
CO 450 – Thematic Seminar:Virtual Worlds / Lecture / F1
These advanced special topics seminars seek to address the changing nature of communication processes in relation to a single grand theme. Previous offerings included themes related to the future, the global context, and the virtual world. Thematic Seminar may be taken twice for credit in the major. Lecture. Prerequisites: AW 112, Academic Writing II; and CO 307, Rhetorical Theory or CO 312, Communication and Culture or CO 329, Visual Communication.
Location: DESIGN D201
Description: These advanced special topics seminars seek to address the changing nature of communication processes in relation to a single grand theme. Previous offerings included themes related to the future, the global context, and the virtual world. Thematic Seminar may be taken twice for credit in the major. Lecture. Prerequisites: AW 112, Academic Writing II; and CO 307, Rhetorical Theory or CO 312, Communication and Culture or CO 329, Visual Communication.
Credits: 3.00
_____________________________________________
We hold class from 4:00-6:30pm PST every Tuesday in Mac Lab 201 in the Design Center building. WitnessX you are more than welcome to come sit in on the actual class. Send me an email at thatfingcat@gmail.com if you would like a tour of the campus. I will personally introduce you to the administration and allow you to express your thoughts about the Second Life project.
Love, Tiz.
A for Anonymous
Oct 10th, 2008
@ Witness X
All I have to say is wow. You like to think you know a lot. Sadly what you have to say here is far from the truth. Isnt it fun when you’re terribly out of the loop? It makes you look like an idiot when you spout your stupid bullshit.
Witness X
Oct 10th, 2008
Let’s see – we have a kid with a police record “teaching” a seminar only slimly related to a virtual world he’s not even allowed to log onto because he’s been banned, at a university known for being one of the most notorious diploma mills in the western United States, whose sim is being run by a guy who pays for beer blasts at conventions for Griefer Appreciation.
Way to go, Jordy.
You must be proud.
Corsi Mousehold
Oct 10th, 2008
@ Witness X
Okay I can take lies that get posted about me with a grain of salt since I know where they generally come from. Your lies I would have to say are very similar and I generally have a good idea on how this is going to get replied to as well.
But honestly … Even with the bad relations FurNation and Woodbury have had in the past I have to toss you the Emo award. I swear, it seems every little thing that gets posted in the Herald lately that has me, mine, or Woodbury on it you meet with hostility and outright bull5#!7
I got four words for you
Get a First Life.
Kiddoh
Oct 10th, 2008
Witness X is a giant walking fallacey. Saying anything even remotley legitimate would undo his very existance.
Witness X
Oct 10th, 2008
Here’s the real story.
Jordan Bellino has rich parents, but no friends. He gets involved with 4Chan on the Internet, because he has no friends. He gets involved with the Patriotic Nigras because he has no friends, and has no moral compass. He comes to Second Life because of the Patriotic Nigras.
He lies to everyone, because he believes nobody will like him if he tells them he’s 90 pounds of boy in a 100 pound body. Every single thing he tells anyone is different than what he tells the next person, and he often says one thing while simultaneously doing exactly the opposite.
Jordan wants to be important. He can’t do it in the real world, because he has nothing to offer the real world. I mean really, nothing. So he invents this Tizzers Foxchase persona, whom he thinks will be more attractive if he plays it as a girl. It works. He plays the witless ingenue, and people start buying into it. By manipulation, lies, and good acting, he builds a cadre of sycophants. But he’s starting to get into real trouble, so he needs the protection of some public institution to hide behind. He chooses the worthless papermill college he goes to and in early 2007, creates Woodbury University in Second Life.
The real Woodbury University knows nothing about this, and denies any knowledge when queried by telephone and email.
Jordan, now Tizzers Foxchase, is still friends with his PN buddies, though, and allows them free access to his sim. They use it to plan raids. The Lindens finally decide they’ve had enough and delete his sim, shortly after having it trashed anyway by a disgruntled IntLibber employee. Later, he gets himself deleted as well because the abuse reports have finally piled up to critical mass.
Oh, the pain, the humanity! Banned from the only life worth living – Second Life. (And how truly deeply sad is that, that this is the only place Tizzers can even function?)
In the meantime, IntLibber Brautigan goes from angel of vengeance against the PN to simply buddying up to them to save his own skin, because his business is hurting from all the attacks. He claims he “defeated the PN”, but all he does is hire them to work for him! They take his pay, but keep griefing – they just do it elsewhere. Jordan gets inhaled into the Brautigan machinery along with the rest of them, but he takes center stage because he wants something from IntLibber – somebody who can pay for the resurrection of Woodbury who isn’t actually Tizzers – because Tizzers has so pissed off Linden Lab that they will never take his money again.
Tizzers leverages IntLibber’s self-serving PN buyout and gets really cozy with him. IntLibber negotiates with the real life Woodbury University to get them to pay for a sim in Second Life. At the same time, Tizzers helps Madelina Rossini get a job with the University teaching a seminar. Madelina is near broke – eventually spending a couple of months sleeping on Tizzers couch before heading back to England for good.
The only problem is that she’s still technically Tizzer’s teacher.
IntLibber announces his “Jillette” sim will be renamed “Woodbury University” and moved to join two other sims, one a void sim he owns, and one called “Longcat” owned by Scout Detritus.
The Lindens absolutely refuse to name any new sim “Woodbury University”. As a compromise, IntLibber has it named “Metaversity” instead.
There is no program at Woodbury University about virtual worlds. There is one seminar, at a tiny school dwarfed by most elementary schools in the same city, a class whose description is so vague it could be about practically anything, and Tizzers is involved with it – now. The entire thing is a hoax, perpetrated on SL and now on real life University students, solely to stroke Tizzer’s and IntLibber’s egos.
I left out a lot. But that’s the history of the whole thing.
2cents
Oct 10th, 2008
The real woodbury’s involvement in the SL woodbury sim(s), or the lack thereof, doesnt say anything about the ‘rumors’ of griefing being true or not.
Woodbury is indesputably connected to the chans trough their use of all their memes and whatnot, an association held up high by the woodbury’s own residents. And in turn, the chans are associated with the PN trough their use of the same memes and /b/haviour.
So it’s understandable where all the rumors have come from.
Once you get painted with a broad brush, it’s hard to get out from under that. Look at furries for instance.
There’s several ways of dealing with the ignorant silly or more often plain stupid misconceptions and preconceptions; one is to throw a hissyfit at every mention of it, or just ignore it alltogether. One of these is the wisest, and I dont think it needs further explainig which one.
(spelling? grammar? meh. too much trouble.)
Witness X
Oct 10th, 2008
Also note that the signature on the letter is an illegible scrawl, with no subscript in readable text identifying who it is. It’s possible that it’s legitimate. It’s also possible that it simply took this long to sneak a piece of stationary out of the administration office and forge a letter.
IntLibber Brautigan
Oct 10th, 2008
lawl at Witness X,
MaldyAngelKalelKaraButtplug, whatever you are, its amazing the conspiracy theories one can devise when one knows nothing.
a) All three sims are operated by and for Woodbury University: Metaversity sim, Woodbury Sea (both in BNT’s Woodbury estate), and Longcat sim, the endowment legacy of virtual philanthropist and pirate tycoon, Scout Detritus. As the legally authorized representative agent of Woodbury University in Second Life, I have estate ownership or management authority in all three sims, and all three sims are operated as WU projects. I understand that Woodbury Sea is going to serve as a virtual laboratory of wetlands environmental science this semester.
b) Woodbury University, in fact, paid for two sims: a full sim and an openspace, through BNT, for a full 6 months, while Longcat is fully funded by Scout’s content business in SL. We had some delays in moving Metaversity sim due to some corrupt influence by JLUfags and Prok, with some LL objections to the sim being named “Woodbury University” on the bogus excuse that I was not authorised to use the WU name and LL claimed to be “protecting WU’s trademark rights”, until authorization was provided (see the big letter posted in the sims), then they switched gears and made vague excuses about events over a year ago that they have openly admitted had nothing to do with BNT or present WU staff. We compromised on the name in exchange for immediate moving and renaming and LL refunding three months tier on the sim due to their unreasonable delays in the move which should not have been held up by the naming dispute. Marty Roberts (Marty Linden), Chief Counsel of LL, agreed to this settlement and we are now awaiting payment of the refund. All is well and everybody is happy.
c) 35k eh? lol, actually we have a 44k suit going against certain individuals atm. We are debt free. Lurk moar. We are still expanding, now at 52 sims.
IntLibber Brautigan
Oct 10th, 2008
Actually witness x, the scrawl in the signature is because Dr. Rosen is generally annoyed that demagogic idiots like yourself are not more easily prosecutable for slander and libel. Keep it up tho, you’re getting there. Oh, and keep your eyes open, there is news afoot of the future….
Roland the Headless Thompson Gunner
Oct 11th, 2008
Witness X is just the other side of the “Reality” coin.
Like “Reality”, he’s been here for years, spouting the same old tired bullshit.
Get a new act, retards.
YAWN
The Horses Mouth
Oct 11th, 2008
@Witness X
Jordan gets involved with 4chan because his friends from Woodbury show him the site in 2005. Jordan leaves Woodbury for a year to work in digital operations at Dreamworks in Glendale. Dr. Edward Clift approaches Jordan and offers Jordan an independent study in New Media while working at the studio. Jordan takes the class and is asked to build a Second Life campus by Dr. Clift. Jordan leaves the studio and goes back to Woodbury to finish his BA under the newly formed school of Media, Culture, and Design.
By this time (January 2007) Woodbury has outgrown their 4012m lot in Campus North which was given to the school by Linden Lab for the semester. Clift places the order for the sim in February 2007 and it is delivered the first week of March. Woodbury University sim sits empty for a month. Jordan’s friend DarthBlueAfro Cummings is teleported to the sim and they get the idea to terraform a hangout room under the school.
Soon, the two find themselves putting funny pictures on the walls of this secret hangout and Darth starts teleporting his friends to the sim. Ron Graves brings Woodbury to the attention of the Patriotic Nigras and the nigras begin flooding the sim and hailing it as the new Fort Longcat, calling it the “shrine.”
The JLU show up and start abuse reporting the freebie boxes containing old Doomsday guns and Linden Lab takes the sim offline on April 12, 2007.
WitnessX knows nothing about “the real story.”
Alyx Stoklitsky
Oct 11th, 2008
Witness X’s comments are A+ Comedy Gold. Not only are his ‘facts’ completely and provably wrong, but he demonstrates a complete ignorance of what is currently going on at Woodbury.
IntLibber Brautigan
Oct 11th, 2008
moar lol at Witness X,
Geeze, you’d think Kalel would realize that Halloween is coming up again…. Trick or Treat this time buddy?
mootykips
Oct 11th, 2008
witness x’s comments have one hidden gem of humor and that is reading them in crazy accents
Fontaine comes ta’ Rapture because of the Pahtriotic Nehgras. Gawd dahm nigrahs, hit ‘em wid da won-two paunch.
>IntLibber announces his “Jillette” sim will be renamed “Woodbury University” and moved to join two other sims, one a void sim he owns, and one called “Longcat” owned by Scout Detritus.
more like the “jeanette” sim got inflated, amirite
Alyx Stoklitsky
Oct 11th, 2008
“witness x’s comments have one hidden gem of humor and that is reading them in crazy accents”
I smell some dramatic reading potential.
/me fires up audacity.
At0m0
Oct 12th, 2008
LOL WitnessX.
I’ve actually talked to representatives from Woodbury. They know about the virtual worlds class, and they also find the drama that people like you have created as A+ comedy gold. That’s right, people in the real world laugh at what you take so seriously. Also, I wouldn’t say that the virtual worlds class is made up when the school knows about it and is actively funding it.
If you’re saying it doesn’t exist because it isn’t posted on their site, fyi, it falls under communications.
However, by all means, please continue to spout ignorant half-truths, it’s quite entertaining.
Corsi Mousehold
Oct 12th, 2008
@ Witness X
Okay the only thing you got right in the long ‘Explination’ of a post was Tizzers had her sim deleted cause of the PN’s And it’s the PN’s fault. WU was not a Patriotic Nigra playground and that can be shown in the fact that Tizzers was even allowed back on the grid later. Oh … and guess what … Tizzers has an account on the grid.
As for Intlibber paying off the PN’s … Um … Dumbass … It’s well known the PN’s came after me personally to the point of having the police at my door cause they think I tried to bribe them. To this day I STILL have no clue what the hell that’s all about but meh. Hell with it. Either way the PN’s … Do you honestly think for a second anyone’s going to beleive that Int would pay them money or two that they wouldn’t just take the money and fuck with Intlibber more? No. Something else happened.
From there your entire story is outright fabrication.
Now excuse me here while I have a real life to attend to.
Witness X
Oct 12th, 2008
That’s exactly what they did do, Corsi. They took the money and just fucked with him some more.
The PN were using Woodbury as a launching platform for grid raids – that’s well documented fact, and why the Lindens deleted the sim.
And by bribing, I mean he hired them away so they’d stop hitting his sims. For about 5% that worked – the rest just took the money and kept on griefing.
The part about Madelena sleeping on Tizzers couch is true (and Tizzers is a boy, not a girl.) The part about Tizzers getting Madelena a job teaching the very class he was attending is also true. Can you say “conflict of interest”? How about “disgrace to the teaching profession”?
And while Tizzers has an account on the grid, he’s not good at keeping it. One evening he went through a dozen alts, and they were each deleted within five minutes time. How long this one will last is anybody’s guess, especially since the account is being shared among two or three other people at present.
Alyx Stoklitsky
Oct 12th, 2008
“The PN were using Woodbury as a launching platform for grid raids”
If you still honestly believe that, I’m inclined to suggest that you might require psychiatric evaluation.
Witless X
Oct 12th, 2008
~”The PN were using Woodbury as a launching platform for grid raids – that’s well documented fact, and why the Lindens deleted the sim.”
Once again, you are full of shit. The email from Linden Lab stated:
“Many members of the Woodbury University group (which controls the region) have been detected before and after that date causing severe problems in Second Life”
It made no mention of using the sim to plan grid attacks. These avatars were not legitimate Woodbury members, but rather PN alts that were invited to the group, only to go around causing trouble with the group tag on.
~”Tizzers is a boy, not a girl.”
While the typist behind Tizzers may be a boy, Tizzers Foxchase the avatar was female.
~”How long this one will last is anybody’s guess, especially since the account is being shared among two or three other people at present.”
If you are referring to Tizzers BnT you are sorely mistaken. That account is being treated as an alt of Intlibber Brautigan. Tizzers has had her current account for months.
Witness X is a troll that knows nothing about Woodbury and is obviously somebody that has harbored a deep personal hatred for Tizzers.
Corsi Mousehold
Oct 13th, 2008
Okay … Last post.
Witness X I am issuing you a challenge.
You have accused me of being a scat loving diaper fetish pedophile.
You have accused Tizzers and Int of goodness knows how much more.
We are all denying your accusations and calling you a liar. So put up or shut up. There’s nothing on me cause none of it is true. And I will bet the same is true for Tizzers and IntLibber.
Instead of posting bullshit and trash talk … put your money where that cesspool of a mouth is. Show me something.
IntLibber Brautigan
Oct 13th, 2008
Firstly I want to thank Corsi for his supportive comments here, its evident that he’s been investigating, learning the facts, and thinking a lot recently and I think that demonstrates some real maturity (diapers notwithstanding). Everyone else who has posted, its clear that a lot of people are starting to realize the true source of lies and propaganda here. Every post by Witness X further discredits the JLU, as a sad group of people whose inadequacies seem to drive them to cause and feed drama for others in order to boost their own importance on the grid…
“Importance on the grid…” … Listen to that phrase. Really, the idea of being an slebrity is rather laughable, funnier yet, those who obsess over slebrities, drum up and fester so much hostility, resentment, and jealousy for people who compared to RL really pale in significance. “ZOMG UR the famus IntLib, hiss, UR a bad bad man!!” …..
Take me and BNT for instance. People who post so much hostile drama here about me and BNT act like my company is some sort of massive monopolistic company, when in fact we own a tiny percent of the grid. We have grown in two years to 52 sims, but really, in the grand scheme of things, our business has more in common with a mom and pop pizza joint than some big monolithic megacorp.
Whenever we get interested in entering some market with a product or service, it seems like existing players in those markets immediately turn on the slander and smear wagon rather than welcoming competition as a chance to expand and promote SL business as a whole. Every new made-up story seems more outlandish than the last, people dredge up BS from ED as if its some sort of authoritative source (omg wtf) and expand upon it. I recommend people actually find out for themselves the truth, as many others have done, and are doing here. As many have already learned, I am an open book and have no trouble answering any question.
Same goes for Woodbury. By all means contact the WU administration and ask them about its virtual worlds project. Dr. Rosen (VP of WU) has his phone number on the authorization letter present in the WU sims. You are invited to contact his office to verify the facts. Spend some time around the sims, nonjudgementally.
FIRST AND FOREMOST: If you actually see WU students misbehaving, report them to myself, or other administration in the campus. WU’s agreement with BNT specifies that the student code applies on its virtual campus, and in SL. I have seen several examples of campus administration taking proper action against troublemakers (we’ve seen slightly more furries griefing than nonfurries, and Corsi Mousehold has graciously approached us about dealing with idiots who grief from furnation, so we look forward to further responsible operations in the sim into the future). One underage user was agebanned just yesterday.
Any remaining griefing on the grid today tends to be perpetuated by the JLU harassing people in the sandboxes and leading younger players into the delusion that there is some sort of big cops and robbers game going on in SL. Furthermore, furry on furry griefing also remains.
The PN stopped raiding us because they realized they had been manipulated by the spy alts of Angel Fluffy and Kalel Venkmans JLU into hitting us in order to get me to join their proactive security group and play their massive grid-wide capture roleplay sim rape game… Today the only people left attempting to perpetuate this conflict is the JLU. Kind of illustrates the true source of the conflict. Now Witness X is left to bawww and lie in such an obvious manner that nobody believes their BS anymore.
mootykips
Oct 13th, 2008
if there’s one thing i’ve learned over the past..coming up on two years now, it’s that when somebody says the PN need a “platform” for grid attacks, they’re so hopelessly stuck in the game as to fundamentally not understand that people can hop in between the two at will. in that case, alyx, they actually do require psychiatric evaluation.
Witness X
Oct 13th, 2008
The previous poster obviously does not have any inside track on Linden information.
The PN were – and still are – in tight with the Woodbury crew, and they’re still active there. The PN alts that were brought in were done so with a nudge-nudge, wink-wink from Foxchase in the first place, so pop goes that claim.
I know about his alts. I also know he won’t be keeping the one he has, which has only escaped detection because he dares not leave the confines of the three sims. And there’s more delicious fun in the works.
Witness X
Oct 13th, 2008
Oh, and Alyx Stoklitsky, current member in good standing and PN toolsmith: sit down and shut up. You’ve already peed your pants. Why embarrass yourself any further?
http://foo.secondlifeherald.com/slh/2008/03/oped-a-year-in.html#more
2cents
Oct 13th, 2008
“Many members of the Woodbury University group (which controls the region) have been detected before and after that date causing severe problems in Second Life”
does not say that
~”The PN were using Woodbury as a launching platform for grid raids – that’s well documented fact, and why the Lindens deleted the sim.”
It (LL’s ‘official’ explanation) does say that woodbury members have been causing problems. Which could very well be PN members in the woodbury group launching grid attacks… Possibly from within the woodbury sim itself.
To deny that such ever took place, like Alyx above, is just silly. The very first woodbury sim would still exist today if no trouble at all was caused by anyone from the woodbury group.
Theres more evidence pointing to troublemakers in Woodbury then there is that there are no troublemakers in Woodbury.
And as I stated a few comments above, the fact that the real Woodbury University is connected to the Woodbury sims, doesnt prove there’s no griefers in the sim, or even at the Uni. (look at Urizenus Sklar, AKA Peter Ludlow, professor at a university and selfproclaimed Patriotic Nigra – or at least PN fan.)
I think Woodbury residents have to go trough a lot more trouble if they want to ‘clear’ their griefergroup name then just posting a scan from some official letter from the real university.
2cents
Oct 13th, 2008
“Many members of the Woodbury University group (which controls the region) have been detected before and after that date causing severe problems in Second Life”
does not say that
~”The PN were using Woodbury as a launching platform for grid raids – that’s well documented fact, and why the Lindens deleted the sim.”
It (LL’s ‘official’ explanation) does say that woodbury members have been causing problems. Which could very well be PN members in the woodbury group launching grid attacks… Possibly from within the woodbury sim itself.
To deny that such ever took place, like Alyx above, is just silly. The very first woodbury sim would still exist today if no trouble at all was caused by anyone from the woodbury group.
Theres more evidence pointing to troublemakers in Woodbury then there is that there are no troublemakers in Woodbury.
And as I stated a few comments above, the fact that the real Woodbury University is connected to the Woodbury sims, doesnt prove there’s no griefers in the sim, or even at the Uni. (look at Urizenus Sklar, AKA Peter Ludlow, professor at a university and selfproclaimed Patriotic N*gra – or at least PN fan.)
I think Woodbury residents have to go trough a lot more trouble if they want to ‘clear’ their griefergroup name then just posting a scan from some official letter from the real university.
Aree Lulibub
Oct 13th, 2008
@ Witness X
For cryin’ out loud get off Tizzers. Obsessed much?
Who the heck cares about WU the PN and what they’re doing in SL? Griefing is down to almost nothing and your usefulness in SL is gone. Why not contribute something useful to the grid instead of wasting your energy posting here?
EX JLU member and proud of the “ex”
Everyone just shut up
Oct 13th, 2008
There’s such an easy answer to all of this. Just apologize. Either side, it doesn’t matter. All the griefers and the antigriefers want is a moral victory, so if you give it to them, they will stop. I’ve gotten a lot of harassment that had been coming my way to stop with simple apologies here and there. The fact is, your reputation on the internet doesn’t mean much even if you’re a big shot, so it’s not really worth it to defend it at the cost of so much heartache. Apologize then clamp down, and you would be shocked at how much trouble just seems to fall off.
That being said, most of you need to shut up on something here.
Witness X, how do you know Tizzers isn’t transgendered in real life. There is a huge population of transgendered individuals that use SL to express their real gender in a way they may not be able to in real life. Using someone’s RL identity in such a way as you are is immature and loses you the moral argument, despite the validity of most of your other claims.
Intlibber, the JLU is not the source of all griefing/antigriefing nonsense on the grid. In fact, aside from that Horse’s Mouth post up there, you hardly ever see them comment on these stories or such. DO you honestly think a bunch of overgrown kids in spandex could keep that much conflict going?
Alyx, mootykips, etc., the bad reputation PN and their friends have is for the most part deserved. Trying to deny the grid crashing past is silly, and trying to say everyone’s innocent when half of them have an account banning in their past is foolish. So yeah, there is some ground to the argument that when the PN are mentioned, it’s going to be negative. An innocuous present does not negate a shady past. Furthermore, calling those who disagree with you as insane, or needing psychiatric evaluation is beneath you.
Alyx Stoklitsky
Oct 13th, 2008
@Witness X: Why are you linking me to an article that I myself wrote? Do think I have forgotten about it or something?
I’ll tell you yet again why Woodbury isn’t a ‘platform’ or ‘launchpad’ for PN raids: They have no need for one, and absolutely nothing to gain from having one – except maybe, the the fear and paranoia of people like you, hopelessly lost in the game.
Think about it – what function does it possibly serve for them?
mootykips
Oct 13th, 2008
Urizenus is a PN fan? Jesus christ, masochists the lot of you. Intblub got his land attacked, Urizenus got his e-newspaper spammed.
Is this some sort of Stockholm Syndrome-esque thing?
Razrcut Brooks
Oct 13th, 2008
/me yawnz. next.
2cents
Oct 14th, 2008
bwahahaha
Mooty, you just won me 50 bucks
I bet a friend of mine who’d come in next to deny and wordsalad stuff… I said, has to be mootyfurfag.
And it is!
Wish you lived here, I’d take you out for a beer. Gotta leave your afro and fursuit home, tho. lol.
Anonymous
Oct 14th, 2008
You do realize, that if even ordinary people see nothing wrong with what the PN are doing (including college professors) you have to ask yourself, why are you getting this worked up over a bunch of avatars spamming cubes in a videogame? It’s fake, and those in the real world see it as that. Try to tell them how it’s harmful and how much it hurts you. They’ll laugh at you, not because they’re evil people. No, it’s because they’re human and have their head in reality and find you and your little e-squabbles pathetic. There is worse shit going on in the real world and people are so worked about about imaginary villians in a videogame that they go to great lengths to discredit those they see as evil and try to convince people to hate certain individuals because they’re “evil” because they do shit someone just doesnt like in a videogame.
uh huh. yeah.
get a fucking grip. seriously, it’s just sad now, mr. witness x. Everyone has stopped caring, and I think the only reason the lindens care is because they just tire of getting bitched at by little blowhards like you who want to be more important that they really are. in 10 years, no one will give a shit about what you did in SL.
IntLibber Brautigan
Oct 14th, 2008
“The PN were – and still are – in tight with the Woodbury crew, and they’re still active there. The PN alts that were brought in were done so with a nudge-nudge, wink-wink from Foxchase in the first place, so pop goes that claim.
I know about his alts. I also know he won’t be keeping the one he has, which has only escaped detection because he dares not leave the confines of the three sims. And there’s more delicious fun in the works.”
Quoted for lulz. I see that no matter how much the wind howls, Witness X sticks his fingers in his ears and hums sweet melodies of ‘Greedo shot first’ and ‘the grassy knoll’ and ‘Tizzers is behind an international illuminati of griefing, shit, and lies’. I actually do disservice to the former two by even associating their plausibility with WitnessX’s sheer lunacy. Have you ever considered writing fiction? If so I would pull weight and get you published because you certainly add a little chuckle to my mornings along with Garfield and Dilbert.
Suffice to say, I am sick of repeating myself seven times and again to counter your lies. I have better things to do with my time and while it has been nice and pleasant debating the finer points of why you should be committed, I really must be going. Have fun talking to yourself while everyone around laughs at you acting like a diarrhea-prone monkey at a Russian zoo.
In one final parting shot to you, my poor dear friend who is so prone to bawwwwing, Tizzers wouldn’t have to worry about alts if dickheads like you did not goad the Lindens into punishing innocent yet high profile people like her out of silly jealousy and vendettas. If I had my way, we wouldn’t need Lindens at all, but on that hand we wouldn’t have the entertainment of watching you spout bullshit like tubgrrl.
Have fun. Lurk Moar and Prosper.
Joan of Pork
Oct 14th, 2008
I miss Jimbo Quality too. Bring him back, please please.
woodbury
Oct 14th, 2008
WOODBURY OH WOODBURY
——————–
Woodbury, Oh Woodbury,
I’m learning at your Meme University…
Lolicubes and Jello Spam,
Then off to Ravenglass as fast as I can…
:p
General Drama
Oct 14th, 2008
Ya we need Jimbo to debate Palin…
mootykips
Oct 14th, 2008
2cents: no no you see you don’t get it. the PN or furries might bitch about being called furfags but it’s not really an issue unless you’re constantly under the shadow of an “ex-furry” overlord or have too much invested in the word ‘fag’. i’ve been accused of being everything under the sun so at this point it doesn’t really matter.
anyway enjoy your 50bux.
Everyone just shut up: actually no, you’re wrong. i realize how retarded it is to call people insane or whatever but there’s really no other explanation for how some (like Prok) actually operate. now, correlation != causation, and these people might be drawn to these sort of ‘virtual worlds’ because of a prior psychiatric issue but I’m not going to make that judgment.
and yeah bring back Jimbo he was the best
Tekiya Gimei
Oct 14th, 2008
Mooty:
“now, correlation != causation,”
please stop cribbing from /.
that is all.
^_^
needs moar
Oct 14th, 2008
JIMBO
Witness X
Oct 15th, 2008
Very generous offer, Tizzers, and if I thought for a minute you planned to pay for my air fare from Ireland, I’d take you up on that tour offer.
And IntLibber, so quick with the threats, assuming he knows anything.
Here’s a hint: I’m a member of Woodbury, in your inner circle, and always have been.
See if you can figure it out. The clues have all been there right in front of you the entire time.
Witness X
Oct 15th, 2008
You wouldn’t be able to figure it out with light from a lantern beating down upon you.