Rich Grainger – Coating the World in a Warm Blanket of Software
by Alphaville Herald on 06/01/09 at 7:22 pm
RGF Estates Corporation owns 450 sims – and growing
by Alessandra Narayan
In this interview, Rich Grainger, CEO of RGF Estates Corporation, says he runs a growing company in the virtual land business, and claims his company is growing at the rate of one new sim per day. An entrepreneur with hopes of becoming a mega-land baron, Mr. Grainger is willing to reach the top and fight head to head with the big sharks in SL’s estates, but doesn’t plan on issuing an IPO because «RGF doesn’t need one».
Ultimately, Rich Grainger confesses his dream: «Coat the world in a warm blanket of software.» Also, RGF’s CEO explains how his differences with the RGF's prior CEO, Frank Essel, led to a change in command of the corporation.
Alessandra Narayan (AN) – Is it true you said “I’ll make money out of any soul I meet in SL”?
Rich Grainger (RG) – I said I’d sell the souls of all I’ve ever meet to make money, RL or SL.
AN – What's that suppose to mean? That no one can trust you?
RG – I have many who do, more than most. I believe 99% of people like me on my sims. Ask around…
AN – Still, shouldn't there be higher principles or goals rather than money?
RG – Yes, of course, my purpose in life is to coat the world in a warm blanket of software, improve communication, thus increase yield. Example: in Vietnam 1 acre produces 3 bushels of products and in Japan 21. Difference equal to info, crop reports, the more communication, the faster we feed the people, shoe the children.
AN – How many sims do you own now?
RG – 450 approximately.
AN – And you intend to rise that number? And when will it stop?
RG – One per day and I’ll stop when demand stops.
AN – When will you launch an IPO?
RG – No need. Cash positive at the moment. Besides, I have no idea why someone would give away part of a business if capital not needed. So, I don’t intend to launch an IPO and if I did, it would be for something big. Also, I don’t want to be the only large real estate in SL. I think competition will grow all of SL faster and I think SL needs a human anatomy.
AN – Are you thinking of buying smaller corporations?
RG – Yes, but not hostile. Must be unanimous. All agree or no deal.
AN – And did you receive any investment proposal to join you in RGF?
RG – A few from RL and I didn’t reject them, I just don’t have a prospectus or capital need.
Professor C
Jan 6th, 2009
So lets see if I am reading this right.
Rich is quite literally stating that he will do anything to make money by being a Land Barron.
I heard one Anche Chung mentioning that a few years back and now she is a minor player trying to do what she can to get out of the game. Notice she is not heard from since the mainland bubble popped back in the days where 512 SqM’s were selling at 15K apiece. She lost ALOT of money.
You don’t rush in and build your own personal mainland. And Bragging about it will only serve to entice those of the lower class of people to come track you down and rip you apart Rich.
I can’t wish you the best of luck cause I know that you won’t have much luck. Here’s what is about to happen. Posting here will get the attention of those that troll these boards. Ones like me.
Now allow me to have a look around your sims and uncover a few things. This could prove to be entertaining.
I am not amused
Jan 6th, 2009
This is a joke, right? Seems about 3/4 of all mainland and privately owned sims are for sale in SL now. Just like RL, people drop the prices to next to nothing and still the land doesn’t sell. Now this guy is building new sims?! I think he’s about two years too late on his business idea. Good luck with that.
Prokofy Neva
Jan 6th, 2009
This guy sounds like a douche. I wondered for a minute if he were an Intblubber alt. He’s somebody’s alt, because look at his profile inworld: 2006 birthdate and as his profile picture, that ridiculous library stock photo of the old SL sunset. Real avatars don’t make profiles like that. Who ever heard of this company? And what prompted them now to try to get a free ad in the Herald? Why didn’t the Herald take ad money for this infomercial?
“in Vietnam 1 acre produces 3 bushels of products and in Japan 21. Difference equal to info, crop reports, the more communication, the faster we feed the people, shoe the children.”
This is retarded. Japan yields more products than Vietnam not because of info, or knowledge of crop reports, or communications. That’s insane. The difference is the peoples, their culture, their governments, and their history. Japan has been able to build free enterprise with a high work ethic and entrepreneurial spirit precisely because over history, it renounced rigid authoritarianism. Vietnam still languishes under communism. When the government kills off a lot of its own people in purges and wars, it harms the labour stock terribly. Unsupressing information flow in Vietnam would help, but can’t magically lift people up from poverty and oppression in a day.
And the objective isn’t to “feed the people and shoe the children” like some communist oligarchic shill. Those goods will come naturally when there is a responsible democratic government and free media – but the real world shows that even that is not enough.
Clearly, this guy labours under one of those awful extremist Extropian/libertarian mind cages, not sure what the particular brand is, but he sounds like he and Intlibber were separated at birth.
Professor C
Jan 6th, 2009
Just …. WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW
Okay do yourself a favor and have a look at something called a Places search. Search the letters RGF and you will see something really interesting.
32768 sqmeters L$89 for land price 60000 a month tiers please contact RGF estates for information
Lets put that into perspective. As of this writing the linden sells for 261 to a dollar. Which comes out to 220$ USD
On the Mainland that same 200$ USD will get you a FULL FREAKING SIM!!! Other places around are asking FRACTIONS of what this guy is charging. The guy is still selling Openspace sims at the moment too at the old rates. What this tells me is that he’s not just a land baron but he is purposely overpricing his sims.
He is also selling Openspaces knowing full well that the prices have changed and will likely be cramming the new increase down the residents throats. These prices are so out there … The residents need to be informed. They need to know they can do better. RGF is lying to the public of SL … Be warned to stay well away and go shopping for your land before picking something up from this charlatan.
Rich Grainger
Jan 6th, 2009
to I Am Not Amused:
I have no idea why sl keeps growing other than the original reason I fell in love with the concept. The logged in # grows each day, it makes sense sales continue at this time.
I don’t buy sims then wait for clients, they come to me, mostly from referals. If I am out of land, only then do I build new islands.
to Professor C:
My goal is to connect as many people as possible. SL seems to be the best way to do such. I am worried that my attempt at humor has been miscommunicated by me. My qoutes about “selling souls” have been taken literally, I wasnt aware such pratice actually exist.
As far as making money, everything I get goes back into SL. I have no interest in building a private mainland. Most people perfer private regions away from other regions.
Rather than post, I was interviewed and somewhat reluctanly as I know there are some people out there that will grief me now. All I can do is offer you or anyone in SL a piece of land and free tier like I have for hundreds in our “LearnAvatar” group.
I do encourage you to have a look around any of my sims. Ask anyone about our islands. If you can find one unhappy person, I will give you a free sim for a month.
Rich Grainger
Jan 7th, 2009
to Prokofy Neva:
You hit the nail on the head, Libertarian/Douche/Noob.
2 days ago some unique residents required I stip to close a sale, which I did. Not having anything “extra” proved quite humilating. As you can see from my pic I couldnt even re-attach my hair.
Concerning rice and commies… Being a redneck by birth, I don’t like either much, although Marx had some good points. Japanese are ok in my book because they invented sushi. Vietnamese have this noodle soup I like calt “Pho” I like. In addition the ones I have met are always happy and friendly to me.
“The 10-year program, led by the Philippines-based International Rice Research Institute with support from the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation and the U.S. government, aims to produce an additional 5 million tons of grain annually”
[http://www.tmcnet.com/usubmit/2009/01/05/3890412.htm]
Concerning shoes, children, and internet magic..
here is a map of happiness:
http://www.fahad.com/pics/world_map_of_happiness_lrg.jpg
notice how this map of bandwidth mimics the happiness map:
http://wireless.ictp.it/simulator/img/world.jpg
Anonymous
Jan 7th, 2009
It’s intlibber’s clone, cloned from his backfat.
though intlibber is getting out of the game so I doubt this is him.
Baron Cuttlesmith von Blogharder, Esqu, MD
Jan 7th, 2009
Another idiotic businesstard, complete with stock suit. Further proof that anyone with a suit in SL is a wanna-be Trump dipshit.
This seems like another “Let’s interview an idiot or get them to write something for LOL” article on SL Herald.
Protip: the TRUE businesspeople in SL who actually make something and aren’t just scummy middlemen don’t wear suits on their avatars. They are by necessity going to be creative types, not milk-a-dollar-from-your-mother assholes. They are the ones making the money. You’re just like any other plotpeddler.
mootykips
Jan 7th, 2009
>Japan has been able to build free enterprise with a high work ethic and entrepreneurial spirit precisely because over history, it renounced rigid authoritarianism
Um, no. Japan was able to build “free enterprise” through infant-industry protectionism, Keynesian public works investments, and close ties between government and business, all which were orchestrated through MITI and other ministries, something that was decidedly authoritarian in nature. Try again, cat-lady.
Professor C
Jan 7th, 2009
“Ask anyone about our islands. If you can find one unhappy person, I will give you a free sim for a month. ”
I suggest one person rent a small plot from this guy and bitch about it. Then everyone point to him and get a free sim for a month.
He’ll be out of business in a week.
But for fun points of note. If someone is not happy living there they’ll … LEAVE! ANd thus would not still be there to make good on your promise. I bet if one looked around long enough there will be residents that did leave.
Ziffle
Jan 7th, 2009
I just have to chuckle at a 50 something like Prok using insults like “douche” and “tool”.
You’re not going to make yourself relevant by adopting WoW forumz kidz’ lingo, you walking sack of potatoes. You’re just the other side of the Intlibber coin. Fat assed old losers living in a fantasy world, so it’s quite amusing to see you spew hate at him, as much as he does deserve it.
Rich Grainger
Jan 7th, 2009
To Professor C:
Concerning Mainland vrs Estate Land..
“the Mainland that same 200$ USD will get you a FULL FREAKING SIM!!!”
True, however not the ability to change the textures restart the same, set divide or sell permissions, control the sun, locate scripts, and many other features in the estate menu.
“The guy is still selling Openspace sims at the moment too at the old rates.”
True and False. We are passing the new price increase to our clients.
However, our “new” prices are about the same as some others “old” prices, so I can see how this is confusing. In Addition, much of our land is priced at 1L as we have more inventory in stock now.
Rorok Longstaff
Jan 7th, 2009
Some pretty funny comments above on this tool, most of which I cannot disagree with, especially about him being an alt of Ineptlibber.
Out of habit, I post notes in other avatar’s “My Notes” records upon meeting them so I will have a reference point in case I run into them again.
I searched for Rich Grainger and found that I had this on his record:
“met at meta bank 12/18/6~ – later sent me IM asking if I loaned money. He has lending options on land 10K to 1000K plus. Short term hard money at 50-180% p.a.”
Just adding this for flavor, but those sound like Brautigan’s family rates. Never had any further contact with him.
Professor C
Jan 7th, 2009
@ Rich
“True, however not the ability to change the textures restart the same, set divide or sell permissions, control the sun, locate scripts, and many other features in the estate menu. ”
True but in owning half a sim on the mainland one call can make almost all of that happen plus you get better visibility on the mainland and for 100$ USD cheaper for a half sim? Just so I am clear you would rather I pay 100$ USD so I can change the texture of the ground. Now you will argue that I can’t Estate ban on the mainland. No I can’t. But The Lab will take a call and have someone’s ass kicked for me real fast. I have it happen all the time. But to those that deserve it.
“True and False. We are passing the new price increase to our clients.
However, our “new” prices are about the same as some others ‘old’ prices, so I can see how this is confusing. In Addition, much of our land is priced at 1L as we have more inventory in stock now.”
Actually no I was looking at your prices and quoting that they were far too high as it is. Not that they were increased. And you’re renting out 1/4 homesteads? Isn’t that why everyone went through the entire SOS protest because of people like you? Why so many have lost everything they had. All the beautiful low lag homes? Because some assfucks like you decided it would be a good idea so squeeze every last dime you could out of the community by splitting up an OPENSPACE SIM that you know will not be able to handle the load?
Thank for for clearing that up for me. Now I don’t think you are an asshole. I think you are a fucktard AND an asshole.
Rich Grainger
Jan 7th, 2009
Anon:
1st off hiding your identity in an anonymous metaverse amuses me to no end, bravo.
I am no clone, but rather an example of genetic engineering gone awry.
My rl father is rattlesnake and my mother a leech. (a mysterious addition of Elvis dna was added in the form of crotch sweat from the white jumper he wore in “Live via Honolulu 1976″)
Baron Cuttlesmith von Blogharder, Esqu, MD
I have no idea where to start oh medical lawyer of noble birth.
Thank you for your new cutdown “milk-a-dollar-from-your-mother asshole”
I will replace my standard “your mother wears combat boots” which has drawn more than a few tears from the other kids (given our current rl 2 war deployment) at Mcdonalds playland who like to pee in the playballs. I prefer having playland to myself and a 37 y/o can’t really discipline other people’s preschoolers by force these days without earning a child abuse rap. I am anxious to see how this new insult is perceived as the younger kids appear to have such dribble on they chin already.
On wearing suits..
This is why I have been fired from several rl jobs and still live in a tiny apt.
Dress code is a symbol of service. The ability to conform and serve. This is the impression I require my employees to present, as well as the reason many have quit.
As I pen this tomb of vile directed back at those who love to hate, I am wearing a pile top from the 70′s (Patagonia gear is indestructible), boxers, and flops.
The suit is an illusion. I never realized it would be such an issue for my employees to dress up their avatars.
Please add “plotpedderler” to the above mentioned : Libertarian, noob, tool douche label I so deserve. Creating virtual space has always greased my gears.
On being creative…
I had to rely on my last 42 braincells to come up with a CrEaTiVe way of holding on to my GLUT of openspaces after the ill-timed announcement the prices would increase which triggered the rl stock market crash and recession.
Ziffle…
Would you care to expand on what I deserve and why?
The Sumarians had an old saying, “the enemy of my enemy is my friend”
So that would make you my bikini area waxer?
Professor C
Your island is called “Mozingo Straits”.
I will save you the time trying to find an unhappy resident as none such exist and I doubt you even tried.
I have set the price to 1L, and will pay your tier for 1 month, enjoy.
Orion Pseudo (Shamroy on SL)
Jan 7th, 2009
Oh you just wait… Sooner or later the Lindens will find some way or another to screw this guy too.
Anon2
Jan 7th, 2009
“Ask anyone about our islands. If you can find one unhappy person, I will give you a free sim for a month. ”
“I bought an Openspace from RFG Estates a few months back. The estate changed the tier rate after the initial buy rate was paid. When questioned I was booted without refund or explanation. I lost 40,000L just for asking about the rate.”
…there’s one for you. There are many more and hopefully those individuals find this thread and post their experiences.
Instances like that is why you see a positive cash flow.
Hylee
Jan 7th, 2009
I usually enjoy the articles in the Second Life Herald, but this one is very strange. How does this story help, inform, or entertain? I have to agree with Prokofy (did I just say that). This screams infomercial.
Rich Grainger
Jan 7th, 2009
Professor C
“But The Lab will take a call and have someone’s ass kicked for me real fast.”
Give me the mainland slurl where you can do this. I would love to know how “fast” LL come when you call…LOL
“Actually no I was looking at your prices and quoting that they were far too high as it is.” “The guy is still selling Openspace sims at the moment too at the old rates.”
“He is also selling Openspaces knowing full well that the prices have changed and will likely be cramming the new increase down the residents throats.”
We have already factored the price increase. Perhaps this is why you thought the land was too expensive?
Emperor Norton Hears A Who?
Jan 7th, 2009
Is it my imagination our does Rich Granger talk in nothing but buzz words. This has to be someone’s parody of Donald Trump. LOL
Rich Grainger
Jan 7th, 2009
Rorok…
“tool” is accurate as I spend the majority of my free time reading digg and wikipedia.
As far as the Loan, I tried banking, but not accepting deposits and then folding like 99% of the others. Instead I made loans backed by land at rates sufficient to cover the huge losses one sustains in sl. In the end, I may have made some $, but not much.
Flavor…
The Ethiopian food I ate last nite had twice the kick of your post, come back manlike.
Rich Grainger
Jan 7th, 2009
anon2…
Prof C still hasn’t claimed his sim. If you have read this thread, you will know which, and if you get there 1st, the sim is yours or whoever you were quoting, for a month.
Emperor Norton…
It is what it is. Your Outside-the-box perspective, is so New Media, uh ya, nah, I’m gonna go ahead and have to say; not so much. Lets circle back and touch bases on your nast freakspeak, it’s so like, hot, um, not. hell to the ya.
Hylee…
Check with the author. I offended her to the point of canceling the interview by not being able to meet in person as I was too busy dealing with grief much like in here. Fortunately she was kind enough to reschedule, TWICE!
Anon2
Jan 7th, 2009
I have to say Rich so far has kept his word and held up his offer of a sim to someone who was unhappy in the past. I’m glad you two were able to work it out. Good luck!
Baron Cuttlesmith von Blogharder, Esqu, MD
Jan 7th, 2009
Rich Grainger: your ilk contribute nothing of value beyond being a middleman. You provide an experience only marginally better than mainland, and able to be competitive only because of the increasingly higher costs of owning smaller plots of mainland. This fact puts your entire business at risk, as any change such as Linden restructuring the way mainland tier works, or providing mainland-type land similar in function to estates (IE with checkerboarded sim spacing for less lag and more water, and greater terraforming ability) could put you out of business completely. It is high stakes gambling, especially considering Linden Lab has absolutely no incentive to let you play the role of middleman when they can increase revenue by changing their land products or adding new ones that intensely compete with yours.
Meanwhile, the land barons who actually provide something unique and more than simple plots on a sim are thinking for the long term, and will do well even if the land game is majorly restructured. Solid, secure growth with an eye for the future is much better than rapid growth with the huge potential for complete failure. That’s basic economics. You see it in stocks; those who invest in companies with good dividends and proven growth and stability do better than the vast majority of day traders, who completely fail to outperform the market.
So yeah, when your business goes under, just remember that a random asshole on the Internet told you so.
Anon2
Jan 7th, 2009
@rich
Id rather see the person I quoted use it. I will send him that way if he is interested.
Azno Simons
Jan 7th, 2009
In reading the article and the responses, I have to agree with the notion that this business model is about two years too late. Linden Labs has demonstrated in the past the ability to change land and tier prices to squeeze out land baron’s.
Basically what you are doing is filling a quickly shrinking market within Second Life. As mainland land continues to drop and island owners continue to dump islands, Linden Labs will certainly have revisit it’s maindland land purchase and tier models, in order to stop the revenue bleeding.
I wish you well, but with my experience in the finance and lending fields, I would watch how much exposure you have because the more islands you have means the bigger the impact when Linden Labs comes around and realigns the purchase and tier prices again…
Well you might just look at it as our two cents worth, but so far our financial projections have been 95% correct against Linden Labs financial’s along with our projections with regards to gaming for profit and Linden Labs eventual response.
Rich Grainger
Jan 7th, 2009
Professor C
Perhaps you will choose a random sl charity to contribute my free sim?
If not, I offer the same to his highness baron poopmouth. after 12 hours, i offer up this sim to the thread, any charity, free sim, 30 days.
Baron Cuttlesmith von Blogharder, Esqu, MD
Jan 8th, 2009
Rich: I nominate the SL charity W-Hat, which is a community of individuals who help autistic children express themselves via creativity.
Rich Grainger
Jan 8th, 2009
W-Hat it is friends.
Come by radio, reference this Url, and if I am offline, my staff will show you to your free sim.
Rich Grainger
Jan 8th, 2009
Anzo…
Point taken, sage advice indeed.
SL and I are not adversaries or even rivals.
I am a value added reseller of hosting solutions, a widely accepted biz model in the Data Center/WebHosting world. Having worked in an actual lvl 3 Data Center(there are only a handful of such and only 1 lvl 4 that meets the guidelines) I can tell you without a doubt, that 99.9% of the websites you visit today will include a VAR, mostly likely, 3 layers of VAR before you get to a geek in a bunker.
The purpose of such, is to disperse grief over many layers, and provide service without having to knock the geek in the bunker off his current WoW quest just to re-image the platter you formated after being warned 13 ways not to do.
As far as my business model, in the 90′s it involved following the Grateful Dead, guiding whitewater rafts and snowmobile tours. I have no plan or idea what I am doing.
Lastly, my vision is much more altruistic than the above post will allow to fill the dark recesses of an obvious bitter, frightened, and angry mind that will not allow these malcontents to fathom. I sincerely think the world’s problems can be solved via communication and SL is the most advanced method to date.
When/if SL puts me out to pasture, I will go happily and content knowing that I PERSONALLY, was responsible for servicing the virtual world environments of my 15,000+ residents, and the tens of thousands that visit them.
Witness X
Jan 8th, 2009
Maybe not so nameless, “Professor C”. You may have a lot of alts, but we’ve seen a lot of them deleted recently too. Unfortunately for you, they were the estate managers, the sim owners, the business manager alts. Good lucking making tier this month, and good riddence.
Professor C
Jan 8th, 2009
An SL Charity. Interesting concept there. Lets see I can’t think of anyone that would want to have nothing more than a little playground for one month. Most places would want to have the space for a fair length of time. You see what I think this is, is his way of getting someone into a sim to build and then hit them a month later with the bill or lose everything they worked for.
Isn’t that how businesses work Rich? Give them a taste of what it is they really want them take it away from them? Nice concept there.
Clarrice
Jan 8th, 2009
Rich, <3 you!
Alyx Stoklitsky
Jan 8th, 2009
Rich sounds like a complete and utter machiavellian asshole.
I like people like that.
Emperor Norton Hears A Who?
Jan 8th, 2009
Rich Granger “Lets circle back and touch bases on your nast freakspeak,”
Do you mean let’s pencil in a working lunch to do an info-swap session and see if we can’t synergies our dichotomies and create some positive upward dynamics here? I would say it is high time someone enabled the latent sub-assists of Second Life patron base.
You are so 2.0 Rich
Professor C
Jan 8th, 2009
@ Witness X
I do believe you have me mistaken for someone else. Sorry but your guess is incorrect.
I am not the droid you were looking for. All of my alts are intact and quite alive. I have never had an account even so much as suspended in 6 years on Second Life.
Aminom Marvin
Jan 8th, 2009
Hey guys, I’m a member of W-Hat and was directed to this thread.
Rich wants to give us a “homestead” or openspace sim, not a full sim :/
Am I wrong to believe that he was going to provide a full sim from what was said in this thread?
I feel like this is a cop out x.x
Rich Grainger
Jan 8th, 2009
I did ask Aminom if I could speak to an actual officer of the group as he is not in a position of authority for the charity. If W-Hat doesn’t want an Open-space, I will offer the same to this thread to pick a charity. I kinda thought the same a him, a scam.
Rich Grainger
Jan 9th, 2009
Good point Professor C…
Is there anything I can do to cure your perception of me?
If not, I acknowledge you have bested me.
Alyx…
I have a job opening if your interested.
Clarrice..
You made my day, thank you.
Norton…
Thanks, and you are so Web.3D
Professor C
Jan 9th, 2009
@ Rich Grainger
See what I mean? It’s that kind of manipulative behavior that makes you need to be taken down. You said ‘Sim’ when we are talking about ‘Sims’ and ‘Openspaces’ as well as ‘Homesteads’ yet when a W-Hat member comes to claim the ‘Sim’ it turns out to be nothing more than a little bitty sim that everyone was having troubles about before.
Nice little slap in the face there Richie. You won’t even make good on your own word. You offered a SIM. A FULL SIM. You know the ones. 15,000 prims is what everyone reading this board was expecting because of your creative wording. But instead they get shown … trash.
Like I said at the start of this thread. Rich is lying to people in order to make a buck. Give Aminom the full sim. Put your money where your mouth is if you can afford to buy a sim a day I am sure that 300$ for one month is pocket change for a rich fat bastard like you.
This Just In
Jan 9th, 2009
The Labor Department reported that the nation lost 2.589 million jobs in 2008, with the unemployment rate climbing more than economists forecast, to a 15-year high of 7.2 percent in December.
*Bloomberg
And this SL drama means something to you?
This Just in
Jan 9th, 2009
Job losses hit 2.6 million as layoff pain deepens
Job losses hit 2.6 million; unemployment surges to 7.2 percent, heads for 10 percent or higher
Jeannine Aversa, AP Economics Writer
Friday January 9, 2009, 10:18 pm EST
How will you sustain your second life when REALITY is crumbling around you?
welfare?
Human
Jan 10th, 2009
You people do realize that this is just a computer game, right?
just an estate owner
Jan 10th, 2009
A little comment from another estate owner :
Rich Grainger has been very famous for months with his ability to run very low prices (for private estates), probably by investing a lot and crossing fingers to get his money back after several months of tier fee incomes.
Such policies made the market fall down, the competition harder, and everybody had to follow the movement making the price the only criteria to buy a plot/sim.
Now a lot of estate owners don’t pay attention to the quality of their sims, only the price matters.
Ah, I forgot to tell you one of the commercial tricks of Mr RG : the best tool to get customers for a whole sim is to sell it for 1 L$ > you appear in the top “land for sale” search.
Rich likes to have a trip all around his concurrents sims (with his own avatar sometimes) and buy all of them just to make them removed from the search list, without paying any tier of course.
Is that cheap strategy really serious Richie ?? ;o)
Rich Grainger
Jan 12th, 2009
just an estate owner…
“famous for months with his ability to run very low prices”, Thank you. I assumed it was because I am logged everyday and reinvesting the profits into SL.
We provide 24/7 inworld onsite service with a smile, free terraforming, texures, and help with all aspects of SL like, scripting, building, groups, etc.
“crossing fingers to get his money back after several months of tier fee incomes.”
Months? More like years if one considers the people who never pay, returned islands that sit empty for days. Price changes. Paypal returns. Lindex fees.
“the best tool to get customers for a whole sim is to sell it for 1 L$ > you appear in the top “land for sale” search.”
I see 40 sims for 1L now, none are mine.
“Rich likes to have a trip all around his concurrents sims (with his own avatar sometimes) and buy all of them just to make them removed from the search list, without paying any tier of course.”
Actually, other estate owners buy then abandon them to knock them off the search. If you like, I will start sharing the list of my bans with this thread. How would I benefit from buying my own sims and…not paying tier to myself? Serious, me? Are you?
Professor C
Jan 12th, 2009
@ Rich Grainger
Hey. I spoke at you. When are you going to put your money where your mouth is and give Aminom Marvin the full sim instead of getting cheesy and offering a Homestead?
Rich Grainger
Jan 12th, 2009
Professor C
I am old enough(wrote 1st prog in 77) to know when I am beat.
Please reference this thread at January 08, 2009 at 11:04 PM and January 09, 2009 at 07:27 AM for my concession.
Professor C
Jan 13th, 2009
@ Rich
Yes I am quite aware Yet Aminom … Did he get his full sim? Not a Homestead… FULL like you promised.
Witness X
Jan 13th, 2009
Oh, for chrissakes, “Professor C”, just sign your name “IntLibber” and be done with it. It’s not like everybody and his dog doesn’t know it’s you.
Rich Grainger
Jan 13th, 2009
Professor C
No.