The Justice League of Second Life
by Pixeleen Mistral on 10/06/07 at 10:17 pm
Bad boyz ignore the Lindens – but stand down for Batman
by peppermint fizz
A little over a year ago, a couple of fans of superheroes started a group as a comic book interest group. In the time since, the group has developed into an actual security force in Second Life. The thing that makes them unique is that they do so wearing superhero costumes from comic books. Justice League Unlimited, (JLU), patrols public sims and responds to griefer attacks, just like good superheroes should; fighting crime and taking down griefers.
Kalel Venkman, one of the group’s founders, tells it this way. “It was going to be an RP group, but after about three weeks of us walking around dressed as superheroes, people started coming up to ask asking for help with various problems – griefers in particular. So we had two choices – drop back, or step up. We stepped up.We’ve been a public service organization ever since. Since that time, about 14 months ago, we’ve grown to nearly 70 members”.
Kara Timtam, another of the founders, adds ‘Somehow this has mutated into a public service organization, using the “superhero” images to identify what we stand for: Truth and justice for all. That’s ALL, from the newest newbies to the big sim owners’.
to protect and serve
In fact, the group is quite busy, during the course of the interview, a member of the Green Lantern Corps, a similar comic based security group, was called away to deal with a griefing, and Timtam, dressed as Supergirl, explained that as she was answering my questions, she and another member of the group âhave also been communicating with group members about a griefing in a public sandbox.
In the fourteen months since formation, the group has steadily grown not only in membership but also in reputation. âJLU has been invited to participate in SL Banlink, a conglomeration of sim owners who share information about griefers in order to keep them out,â says Supergirl. “JLU has been the only non-property-owning group thusly invited”.
Despite the emphasis on physical confrontation in comic books, the JLU seeks to use no force in dealing with griefers. “Oh, we have a number of techniques. But our first line of defense is diplomacy. Sometimes, the “griefing” is just a new chum who has not figured out where it is OK to shoot guns for fun and where it’s not. We tell them nicely. Sometimes it’s two people having fun with each other. Other times, it’s devoted little sociopaths who think it’s fun to ruin everyone else’s fun. We have no “powers” that any other paying members of SL don’t have, but we use them with care’”.
Wonder Woman added that griefers often attack “for no other reason than they get their jollies from it, conveniently forgetting or ignoring the fact that there are living, breathing people behind each avatar”.
One member added that the JLU is not a group that seeks to push an agenda, just help keep newbies and sim owners from having trouble at the hands of griefers, and that with the exception of public sandboxes and welcome areas, the JLU will only go patrol where it has been invited. We dont have any power to enforce a code of behaviors, we mostly stop people shooting innocents, and trying to crash sims. We would never try to enforce a code of behaviour either even if LL wants people to do that now. We only go where we’re invited.
the league of just avatars
Hawkgirl added, “We are no different than anyone else-but we are committed to te rules and feel an obligation to help out. A lot of us had angels help us as new users-we believe in paying that back-or forward as the case may be. The costumes are fun, but they’re just symbols-people recognize them as the good guys”.
Supergirl noted here that “I’ve seen some bad boyz who were ignoring Lindens, stand down for Batman”.
With the success they’ve experienced in fighting griefers, the group is getting a lot more invitations to come patrol private land. In fact, Kalel Venkman is one of the keynote speakers at next week’s Second Convention. His topic, Sim Security.
The group is selective in who it will accept for membership. People seeking to become superheroes in the SL JLU have to show that they really are interested in comic books, and also in fighting crime. We have fairly strict entry prerequisites, said Supergirl, including a minimum duration of time already in SL, and referral letters from older members.
Once in, members can select the hero they want to be. Multiple people playing the same superhero is ok with the group, but doesnât seem to be a problem as most of the really active avatars have become associated with one specific character. When asked, several members rattled off the members they could think of off the top of their head. “Batman, Aquaman, Supergirl, Wonder Woman, Powergirl, Superman, The Green Lantern, Iron Man just for starters”, said one.
“We have a great Batman. His account got hacked but he’s back and fighting crime again!” added Supergirl. “Oddly, we’re short on X-Men, since the movies are so popular. We have Phoenix and Colossus and Storm”.
“And Silver Surfer, who is an amazing scripter too”, added Wonder Woman.
“And three Spider-Men”, added another.
The bottom line for these heroes is that they’re patrolling the sims that want them in order to make the residents a little safer. Hawkgirl notes “It’s our philosophy to draw fire. Better that I get orbitted, for example, than some poor soul who may not have training or experience. It sounds terribly corny, I know, but it really is beyond and bigger than us-the whole idea behind the League is public service-not bashing heads”.
As the heroes flew off into the night sky to fight crime and patrol some sims, I think all of us that saw it felt a little safer.
Can these superheroes keep you safe?
[Should I hire the Justice League to keep me safe at virtual BBQs? I'd hate to end up as the guest of honor in something like this, and it seems like a legitimate business expense, too - the Editrix]
Fucking Failures
Jun 10th, 2007
Yeah the same Batman who made his password on a known griefer site the same as his account and email pass on sl allowing when he was discovered half of the jlu to be banned and a plethora of cash and goods stolen. That’s the same batman I want defending my sl all right. Also, Kara Timtam is fat.
Propane Tenk
Jun 10th, 2007
Watch out greifers! The JLU might report you to the Lindens! While in costume! By golly that’s really gonna slow you down. At least until you spoof your hardware and come back on an alternate account. These heroes really make a difference by speeding to the “rescue”.
urizenus
Jun 10th, 2007
(we need to fix the quotes in that. I’m getting smart quote garbage.)
I dunno, at least the JLU found a way to have fun in SL. That’s more than a lot of people can say.
Anonymous
Jun 10th, 2007
What the JLU don’t tell is that they themselves are actually griefers. The only difference is that they have written permission from the Lindens to do whatever the hell they want.
Here is a geniune email that was found in Carigorp Matzerath’s email account:
—– Forwarded Message —-
From: Cary Farrow
To: michaelb@lindenlab.com
Sent: Monday, February 26, 2007 7:36:49 PM
Subject: Undercover Account
Hello.
My Second Life name is Bima Escape and Angel Fluffy told me that I should inform you that my account is undercover as a spy infiltrating the P******* N****** group and the groups that stem off of it. He said that I needed to let you know so that my IP/MAC doesn’t get banned. So, feel free to send me an email or IM if you have any questions or concerns for me. Thanks.
-Bima
There you have it.
These people spy on others, keep huge databases of information on anyone they feel like, and will generally stalk you from sim to sim through the use of tracking devices implanted in your inventory.
Lovely people, huh?
Pixeleen Mistral
Jun 10th, 2007
Uri, that smart quote stuff is Audrey in typesettings fault again – and another case of champagne has gone missing — there may be a connection. The typesetters finally seemed to get it sorted out after I sent it back to them three or four times.
The Cancerous One
Jun 11th, 2007
Oh I have been waiting for an article to show up here on these assclowns. What a joke they are. They can’t fight their way out of a Transparent prim. They’re amateurs at best. They couldn’t deal with the simplest of toys, such as the lovely Batman Box.
All they can do is cry to the Lindens once someone outsmarts them. And I’ve seen it happen several times.
You know here’s the real funny part. They get their jollies off on griefing griefers. And then they call it “Support” or “Defending The Public”.
All I can say is I have enjoyed fucking with these losers on many occasions. They’re nothing to be scared of trust me. And they do little in helping you from griefers.
The Bottom line is, you can’t stop us. You can’t stop me. I continue to bring doom and destruction to Second Life, despite being hardware banned. My line of defenses and artillery are superb ladies and furrfags. I have many access points to the grid. And I come in many shapes and colors. I am unstoppable!
Artemis Fate
Jun 11th, 2007
“One member added that the JLU is not a group that seeks to push an agenda, just help keep newbies and sim owners from having trouble at the hands of griefers, and that with the exception of public sandboxes and welcome areas, the JLU will only go patrol where it has been invited.”
I had one of the JLU come and handle a “problem” in Nexus Prime uninvited, the problem was a 2 second fix for me (who has admin powers on the island) and even at the time I was standing downstairs, instead the people getting griefed decided to tell the JLU, who brought down a Green Lantern who did really nothing but aggravate the person. Eventually I found out about it and handled it, and then the Green Lantern, who wanted desperately to prove to me her use in anti-griefing technology, refused to leave until I accepted JLU help in the sim. After like 30 minutes of talking, and almost banning her, all I managed to do was get the JLU to ignore the sim requests. All in all, the Green Lantern was more of a problem than the griefer.
younOOb
Jun 11th, 2007
“the use of tracking devices implanted in your inventory.”
LOLOLOL
younOOb
Jun 11th, 2007
“doom and destruction”
cages you can TP out of and some particle spam you mean.
Griefers are the clowns of SL… can’t take you guys seriously no matter how sad you get
Nacon
Jun 11th, 2007
That’s even worst than AN army crap.
Err… maybe better since they don’t use silly machine guns.
Uriz said “(we need to fix the quotes in that. I’m getting smart quote garbage.)”
“And three Spider-Men”
wtf?
Nicholaz Beresford
Jun 11th, 2007
I like the article, especially the common sense approach. It’s like with the Lindens (or what they currently lack): Communication helps immensely.
Anonymous
Jun 11th, 2007
“cages you can TP out of and some particle spam you mean.”
Erm no, we’re talking about things that crash sims and screw up avatars.
Anonymous
Jun 11th, 2007
Youn00b, might I ask what you find so hilarious about shoving what is basically spyware into someone’s inventory?
Chav Paderborn
Jun 11th, 2007
Is that the Superman I met in the old Hobo sandbox trying to set up his Fortress of Solitude who didn’t understand that sandboxes are public rather than his personal land and who had no idea what one can do with the sit command?
Mickey Rooney
Jun 11th, 2007
All the griefers have to do is declare superheros “broadly offensive” and Abuse Report them. That will get them banned in a heartbeat, making SL “safe” again.
Jimbo Quality
Jun 11th, 2007
Cool! Superheroes! I love these guys. Wonder Woman is totally hot. When I’m President of Second Life, they’re my Secret Service. Hey, a Secret Service with Secret Identities and a totally hot Wonder Woman.
Vote for Jimbo
otakup0pe Neumann
Jun 11th, 2007
These people spy on others, keep huge databases of information on anyone they feel like, and will generally stalk you from sim to sim through the use of tracking devices implanted in your inventory.
If this was possible, it would be heinous. That being said, it is not possible. The closest you could come to a “tracking device implanted in your inventory” is an object in your inventory that you would have to manually rez. Other than that, it is simply not possible. Is it possible to track avatars in SL via other means ? Certainly.
younOOb
Jun 11th, 2007
“Youn00b, might I ask what you find so hilarious about shoving what is basically spyware into someone’s inventory?”
That it is impossible.
California Condor
Jun 11th, 2007
I have found the Justice League as nothing but of benefit to Second Life. JLU does not fight griefing with griefing. They have been very effective. I highly recommend for people to find out more about the good work of JLU in Second Life. They work together with others for the improvement of the quality of Second Life. These folks should have a heroes day hosted for them.
Jimbo Quality
Jun 11th, 2007
>These folks should have a heroes day hosted for them.
If Wonder Woman is there, count me in. I think Silver Surfer is a little scary, so set up the thing then tell him the wrong date. Ooooo, Super Girl is hot too.
>These people spy on others, keep huge databases of information on anyone they feel like, and will generally stalk you from sim to sim through the use of tracking devices implanted in your inventory.
Wonder Woman and Supergirl can spy on me all they want. Hawkgirl too, but those wings will have to behave.
Coincidental Avatar
Jun 11th, 2007
Usually people in police groups are greifers themselves.
I’ve learnt much on abnormal psychology in SL and its telltales. I spy the criminals to learn their ways and to be able to recognize them faster in RL. SL is a great place too to collect information on psychologically abnormal individuals, just in case if LL or an affiliate will sell the information later.
There is much to learn in SL about the dark side of life. Somehow they do not advertise this
Bullshit Caller
Jun 11th, 2007
HA.
This is such biased bullshit.
Justice for all? how about all the people they get blanket banned because of the actions of a few? is this considered “acceptable loss”? or the fact that they are so devoted to fighting this, that they tend to set vendettas against certain groups because of a common background and discriminate? They sound like your run-of-the-mill knee-jerk vigilantes.
Not to mention they make use of many griefer tools and crash sims to stop griefers in some cases, which, ends up giving the griefer what he wanted.
Difference between the JLU and griefers? common griefer is doing it for laughs and could give less a shit. the JLU is highly motivated and fanatical, which makes them more of a danger to sims and users alike moreso than griefers. As griefers wont get you banned for simply being near them, the JLU and overly anxious administrators will.
Another Fun Fact: The JLU and LL manage to cause more sim crashes than the average griefer will.
putting your trust into any group of vigilantes is stupid, folks.
Anonymous
Jun 11th, 2007
Youn00b: They sneak it into items that you would want to wear. HUD attachments, etc.
They DO do this and I HAVE been a victim of it on numerous occasions. They themselves even proudly boast these actions in their banlink comments.
Trying to stop people from crashing sims is one thing, but getting spectators banned purely by association is another.
Neo Citizen
Jun 11th, 2007
Ah, I’ve heard all this baloney before.
Not only don’t they use griefer weapons, they don’t use weapons at all, it’s against their code, I’ve dealt with these guys a lotta times and they’ve never been less than courteous, respectful and responsive. And if they’re run-of-the-mill, knee-jerk vigilantes, why do the Lindens listen to them? And hello, they’re not service moderators, so how can they ban anybody? The Lindens do that.
So if you can’t dig up the truth, then you make stuff up and complaint about that. Gimme a break, it’s BALONEY.
All these complaints and all this noise is coming from the griefers who don’t like having ‘em around because they don’t like getting caught doing it, plain and simple. Like that guy who posted above, “Hey, I committed this FELONY and dug into his email account, and they couldn’t stop me, so that makes them unreliable?” Hey, the poster committed a FELONY.
When you read these lunatic rants, try and think about who’s writing them.
Anonymous
Jun 11th, 2007
Note: Hostile opinions posted in comments are more than likely greifers who are just pissed that they got banned (lawl)
Dev P
Jun 11th, 2007
Which of these two groups of people, the Justice League or the PN trolls, should we believe?
Lets look at the evidence :
1) The Justice League
* are dedicating their free time to helping newbies learn
* are helping landowners stop griefing on their land
* model themselves after the best of the good guys, Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman, etc
* don’t like violence, always using negotiation first
* are quite experienced, and have probably given the hardcore griefers reason to attack them, simply by stopping their attacks
* have been interviewed by SL Herald and seem, from what I read at least, to be good, nice people
* make a point that they have no powers ordinary Second Lifers do not have, and so, need to rely on their courage and teamwork to resolve tense situations?
OR…. in the opposite corner….
2) The PN griefing group
* based at http://www.patrioticnigras.com, this group of trolls and griefers hails from 7chan and 420chan as well as poolsclosed.nexisonline.net and other sites dedicated to ‘raiding’, where a big bunch of internet trolls come together and try to cause as much havoc as possible.
* they’ve trolled SL herald articles before. For example, look at the “furry transformation” article, where they let the insults and drama fly thick and fast.
* they claim to have hacked someone’s email account, and suggested they hacked that person’s SL account too. Isn’t this a FEDERAL CRIME? Do you really want to trust a group of people that not only seem to love trolling/griefing, but who BRAG about their CRIMINAL ACTS?
* given the PN’s lack of trustworthyness, why the heck are we believing anything they put in these comments? They’re here to GET A RISE OUT OF US… of course they’re going to lie and otherwise try to screw with us. That is WHAT THEY DO.
No offence, but, rather like the editor above, I am far more likely to be asking for the Justice League’s help myself, than I am to be taking a bunch of self-professed criminals, trolls and griefers at their word.
-DP
Hewee Zetkin
Jun 11th, 2007
The Silver Surfer here. Many thanks for taking the time and effort to write about our group, and a very fine job of it, too! From helping newcomers learn to build and texture and script, to keeping up awareness of the folks behind the screens by modeling empathy and compassion, to flying the sandboxes in flashing colors, we very much enjoy what we do.
Don’t worry: you don’t need to tell the SS the wrong date for the celebration. I have my head stuck in scripts and get the date wrong half the time anyway. Be afraid!
Judge Hocho
Jun 11th, 2007
You know, the idea of running around in a costume as a ‘super hero’ does not entice me, but frankly doing something, anything and getting ridiculed for it is better than doing nothing … especially when that ‘nothing’ is lessened by castigating others for their attempts.
Your ways may not be my ways, but I salute you none-the-less.
Regards,
Judge Hocho, Lt. Col., Alliance Navy Air Division Wing Commander
Sean Petit
Jun 11th, 2007
Another JLU member here. Thanks for the article! I would point out to any reader who is confused as to what the JLU is actually capable of: we have the exact same powers as every other resident in SL. Our primary weapons against activities that violate the TOS (and let’s be clear, these are blatant TOS violations (you know, the TOS? that agreement of acceptable behavior everyones supposedly agreed to when they joined SL?)) are the AR system and diligence.
Do the Lindens jump when we AR? No more so than any other resident. Do they take our word for it? Hardly. Decisions regarding possible disciplinary action are made on evidence and server logs. If someone was disciplined for a reported TOS violation, you can bet there was evidence to back it up.
Sadly, we expected this griefer campaign of comment spam when we heard about the article, but you can’t fight lies with silence. If you would like to know more, ask around. Don’t take my word for it, don’t take a griefer’s word for it.
An informed resident is an armed resident.
Artemis Fate
Jun 11th, 2007
“you know, the TOS? that agreement of acceptable behavior everyones supposedly agreed to when they joined SL?”
Right. The same ToS that a judge called “a one-sided means which tilts unfairly, in almost all cases, in Linden’s favor”, that ToS?
Sean Petit
Jun 11th, 2007
Artimis: have you read the court’s 46 page decision on the two motions filed? I have. They are available here: http://lawy-ers.com/robreno_order.pdf. The court order dismisses two preliminary motions before the court. The one-sidedness you mention refers to Linden’s heavy-handed arbitration clause, and I concur with the the court that the arbitration clause is draconian and heavy-handed. However, the comments by the court DO NOT, in any way, shape or form, address Linden’s rights as the system owner and operator to define and enforce a code of acceptable behavior.
Now, as you can probably tell, I’m a reader. I read the TOS when I signed up and I didn’t find anything particularly objectionable in it. None of my planned in-world activities would or ever will come close to violating the TOS, so I clicked “Accept”.
Artemis, did you click “Accept”?
P.S., preliminary motions occur at the beginning of a court case and are not a final judgment for one party or the other regarding the actual complaint. If you read between the lines, you’ll see that there’s a lot of Pennsylvania courts pissing on California law in there, which happens a lot in these cross-country cases. There are a lot of deliberations and appeals to be had, so don’t get excited about a minor preliminary motion being dismissed.
AnnaMouse the truth teller
Jun 11th, 2007
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Anonymous
Jun 11th, 2007
You guys crack me up. You whine and cry about these JLU guys like a bunch of babies, and make these claims that they are griefing you. Whats-a-matta wittle baby? Can’t take what you dish out? It sucks to have someone interfere with your SL experience, doesn’t it? Fucking idiots.
I’ve run into a couple of these JLU guys before, and I’ve never had a problem with them. However, I’ve had plenty of bad experiences with you Desu-Desu wearin’ types that think it’s fun to try to interrupt my day when I’m in a sandbox.
Grow up and get a life, and for God’s sake, if you can’t eat what you dish out, get out of the fucking kitchen.
…bunch of pussies.
N!grasOnMyLawn
Jun 11th, 2007
Dev P is an obviouse JLU sockpuppet
It doesnt matter if you trust us or not, we dont need to lie to turn the public against the JLU, theres other ways to do that that are more fun/effective.
Bullshit Caller
Jun 11th, 2007
HA, I’d just like to state on the record that I am not a griefer and I have been banned thanks to JLU spies for pure association (if you call being in the area, or just being part of a group that has been marked as “bad” just because they hail from a common website, you know what I refer to)
Whoever said that the JLU doesn’t use weapons, has bullshit pouring out from their mouths, I’ve seen it. There are PN’s here saying stuff, but again, my point has been proven, because of some of the commentators being PN’s, anyone who talks against the JLU is suddenly associated. The other side seems to be only JLU members spreading disinformation and justifying who they are, with some people who just support them because they’ve been able to get someone they didn’t like banned or were helped.
I’m in the middle here, I’m calling a spade a spade. I don’t support the PN, though I sometimes find some of their antics hilarious as hell. whatever they do is none of my business, however, I do not tolerate getting banned because some vigilante decides to put me in the same boat as a griefer because I go to a certain sim or am present because griefers go there.
Also, to answer another question someone asked. “Why do the lindens support them?”
simple, makes their jobs easier, and they essentially have people doing their jobs for free. saving them the time of roaming the sims looking for violations. However, LL shouldn’t be doing if they want to keep the common carrier status. TBQH, if a griefer attack takes down a neighboring sim, the dispute should be between the sim owners, and the sim owners should be the ones reporting. I ran a network like this for much longer than the lindens have been running SL, where, essentially the opers stayed out of each channels’ business as long as their actions didnt cause a problem on the network. The network still exists and has had few problems in the last 5-6 years. people spamming the entire network would be booted by opers. people spamming a specific channel, that was up to the channel unless the channel called on us to help if it became overwhelming.
The underlying problem with the whole deal falls onto sim owners and lack of moderation in sims that allows griefing to occur.
Sandbox owners should watch their shit closely, they’re essentially allowing problems when they just set a small parcel where anyone can do what they want without any supervision.
In the end, Both groups are on the same boat. one’s anti-justice and taking down the grid, one’s for “justice” and has little or no care if they mark innocents they swear to protect as griefers. Then it all falls to the lindens. who are facing legal problems if they continue to let these shits do whatever they want. Including crashing sims as a last resort. Someone else’s sim that paid money for it.
Hazim Gazov
Jun 11th, 2007
“One member added that the JLU is not a group that seeks to push an agenda, just help keep newbies and sim owners from having trouble at the hands of griefers, and that with the exception of public sandboxes and welcome areas, the JLU will only go patrol where it has been invited.”
Well they sure were “invited” to Woodbury when they came, weren’t they?
Hazim Gazov
Jun 11th, 2007
I’ve encountered them several times, actually. More of a minor annoyance than actually useful. It takes 10 minutes to avoid a hardware ban without the use of shooped life, and they can’t do ANYTHING but follow me around saying “stop griffing, u r addit 2 banlink and reporterererred.”
Carigorp Matzerath
Jun 11th, 2007
Hey, everyone. Batman here. Great article. Well written and informative. I’d just like to thank everyone for their support and make one quick comment. It’s true that the TOS is fairly one-sided and tilts in favor of LL, but those are the terms of the service provided. You have to agree to them before you ever use the service. Basically it means, if you don’t agree with these rules, then don’t use the service. So, however one-sided the TOS may be, you have already agreed that you are fine with following it just by using Second Life. Sure, it would be nice if things were a little different with it, but I can’t say I entirely blame LL for covering their ass.
Angel
Jun 11th, 2007
>> Our primary weapons against activities that violate the TOS (and let’s be clear, these are blatant TOS violations (you know, the TOS? that agreement of acceptable behavior everyones supposedly agreed to when they joined SL?))
You mean the TOS that can be retrospectvely changed at the drop of a hat by including broadly worded terms like “Broadly Offensive”?
Not Hazim Gazov
Jun 11th, 2007
“don’t take a griefer’s word for it.”
Don’t listen to what they say, listen to some happy-fun propaganda! Fixed.
Let us not forget that they have a weapon called “SDI Defense” which can (and does) texture spam anyone from any part of the grid at will.
Not Hazim Gazov
Jun 11th, 2007
Anyone around Woodbury at the time may recall a certain instance where it was used. They drop in uninvited, start bitching at us. Failure to comply with their rather annoying demands resulted in a Linden banning you from the region. A few left behind recall being spammed with a texture sent from said SDI Defense, and being orbited, among other things.
Since they seem to like denying that they use weapons of that type, and “spying” on us, why don’t we take a look at the dump of their wiki one of the P******** N***** got?
As was shown in another article, they thought that Mudkips Acronym looked like one Jake Brahm, who he is not. If you don’t know who Jake Brahm is, go check out his article on Wikipedia, it’s a real lolfest.
What’s more pathetic than a griefer? A griefer masquerading around as some sort of “superhero” “protecting” innocent citizens. More like a bunch of crazies griefing for anybody who’ll bow down to them.
I forget where I was going with this, The JLU is full of idiots, etc.
NobodyImportant
Jun 12th, 2007
To otakup0pe Neumann:
The P******** N***** gained access to the JLU’s wikipedia. They found that JLU members were trying to gather *real life* information for many members of the PN group – as well as a large database of known PN members/alts, topics posted on the PN forums, and much more. Despite the fact that all the *real life* information they gathered was false, they still tried.
…And though it’s slightly less related, they all had cocky comments on nearly every talk page, and were acting like typical elitists. Disgusting.
To Neo Citizen:
Except they do.
They use orbiters, for one; their basic ‘defense’ systems (handed out to all members) come explicitly with the ability to orbit people. As someone said earlier, the JLU also uses “SDI ‘Defense’”. On top of that, the JLU are also notorious for attempting to obtain griefer technology – such as the “Grid Destroyer” weapon the PN used.
Dev P:
If you want proof of the JLU’s shady Wiki practices, I suggest you ask Mootykips or SN4X15 of the PN. I know there’s an archive of the JLU Wiki stuff, which Not Hazim Gazov mentioned.
Lastly, I’m not sure if my first copy of this message went through or not. If it did, and this shows up twice or something (I did change wording and add some information; some things were discussed in previous comments since my initial submission), I would hope that the editors or administrators of the SLH will remove the other one.
Tizzers Foxchase
Jun 12th, 2007
The Justice League Oath
As a member of the Justice League Unlimited, I promise to do my best in the following pursuits:
* To defend the weak and innocent; to stand between them and danger without thought for my personal safety.
* To be strong and true of heart, as this brings out the best in others.
* To be tolerant and compassionate in all things.
* To help where I can, and help others to help themselves where I cannot.
* To stand by my fellow League members, in friendship and in battle.
* To never take action begun in haste or anger, for good rarely follows these things.
* To uphold the principles of safety and privacy that are the cornerstones of civilization in Second Life, and to follow the rules for interaction set out for us by Linden Labs.
* To try to be an inspiration to others, and to allow others to inspire me.
* To never let go of my dreams, for if one believes strongly enough and works toward one’s dreams, all things become possible.
In all these things, I shall strive to the best of my ability.
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“Tolerant? Never take action begun in haste?? To uphold the principles of safety and PRIVACY?” LOL!!
Let’s have a story time shall we kids?
Oh it was a wonderful day in the beautiful new Woodbury University Campus sim. The wind whistled through the palm branches and the peaceful sound of “So I herd you liek mudkips” echoed from the underground sandbox. Happy little anonymous people frolicked about in celebration of their new home, The Shrine.
You see, In the days of old, their home (the notorious Fort Longcat) traveled from land to land without a permanent resting place. The Shrine was different, for the owners of the sim welcomed them with open arms. Everybody was happy, yay!
DUN DUN DUN *dramatic chord*
THEN! One day, the sky went dark and thunder clapped. Anonymous looked into the sky to see a legion of spandex wearing folk ravaging the land. These spandex-wearing peoples thought themselves to be a public service, but NAY! Their skewed assumptions and misconceptions lead them to believe that anonymous was there uninvited. THESE EVIL PEOPLE TOOK JUSTICE INTO THEIR OWN HANDS. Due to the relationship they had formed with the Linden gods, the Lindens believed their trickery and BANISHED THE HAPPY PEOPLE.
Several days later the land was destroyed, completely wiped off the face of the world. Months of hard labor was lost in this tragedy, and many people died.
So little Timmy, the moral of this story is…
The Justice League is not everything its cracked up to be. In fact their efforts can serve to be detrimental in many cases (such was the case at Woodbury).
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Carigorp Matzerath: Anyway, I knew that the PN were congregating at the “Shrine”, so a friend and I suggested to Kalel that we have a few JLU members just loiter around a bit. In the past, just having furries or JLU show up around a base would sometimes be enough to discourage the PN from staying there. So, my friend expressly told Kalel that they are allowed to be there, so there is not much we cn do, but maybe by just being around we can discourage them from staying. Well, Kalel was having connection issues, so he sent Kara to check it out instead. I don’t know what happen, but I guess somehow she wasn’t informed that they were allowed to be here and assumed they were tresspassing like they always do. So, she called in the Lindens, etc.
Tizzers Foxchase: So am correct in saying it WAS indeed assumptions?
Carigorp Matzerath: Indeed.
Carigorp Matzerath: To put it bluntly.
ChocolateStar
Jun 12th, 2007
HEY I SEEN A TYPO, they are called JUSTICE FAGS
These screwballs report anyone for anything, and they use there special linden connections to get away with it. Always harassing people by hovering over them and if they break any possible rule at any given moment they generally don’t confront and just instant report them or go crying to lindens to get them banned. Accidents happen you know…
Proof? I USE to keep to my self and just build in the sandbox and never cause any trouble. Then justice fags started to say I was in PN becuase of how I dressed(or just wanted drama). I didn’t even know what PN was at the time. I didn’t do anything wrong (honestly) but soon after I left sim I was banned for no reason (they ran to there special linden connections and made drama out of it). I couldn’t get that account back either and I didn’t even do anything!
and this happens ALL the time. I’m not alone. Only difference between me and others is I don’t take shit.
So guess what? They invented trouble. These clowns messed with the wrong guy. I have the goods. I can’t be banned. I hate justice league (along with countless others). They want stuff to report? I’ll give them plenty(only when they show there white face and round noses in a sim I’m in). Where they go trouble will seem to follow.
Take that to heart fellow SL’ers. If you see JLU save what your working on and find another sandbox.
go to hell justice douchebags.
btw JLU IS full of idiots that much is clear.
Natasha
Jun 12th, 2007
“I am not a griefer but I hang around with PN and I laugh about what they do and I was around when they griefed and because I hang around with them I gots banned too because of being guilty by association and that’s not fair yadda yadda moan bitch whine”
If you think being guilty by association is bad, then DONT ASSOCIATE YOURSELF WITH GRIEFERS. Simple.
I don’t feel sorry for you at all, in fact I laugh at it. You can hand out, and support your PN buddies with griefing, but then you get the banhammer and you whine about it? Come on, how pathetic are you?
stop whining, or go complain to your buddies that got you banned. If your friends commit a crime in RL< and you’re there with them, you will be arrested as well, if you don’t do anything to stop them but are not helping either. It’s called justice.
natasha
Jun 12th, 2007
And another thing about association:
I’m not a furry, but I do have a furry avatar because it looks so darn cute. Still, that’s all the excuse the Pathetic Wigga’s need to orbit, cage, and texture spam me. Guilty by association, indeed. *eyeroll*
Jimbo Quality
Jun 12th, 2007
People people people, can’t we all just get along? Furries, JLU, those little black people who hit me with Bill Cosby signs once. Let’s bury the hatchet, have one of those drink animations that make us fall down and then break some prim bread. We’ll hold hands and sing. It will be glorious.
When I’m president of SL, and Wonder Woman is my Secretary of Hotness, that’s how life will be. Fun and frolic, brothers and sisters enjoying the digital sun.
Wonder Woman, Supergirl, Hawkgirl….I’m a little disappointed you haven’t called yet. You know I’m the future Prez, right?
Peace My Peeps,
Vote for Jimbo
You (are a) nOOb
Jun 12th, 2007
” Youn00b: They sneak it into items that you would want to wear. HUD attachments, etc. ”
Okay, let me repeat what I said earlier:
Such is IMPOSSIBLE.
As in, not only improbable, but No way in hell anyone would be able to do this.
Unless:
You give them mod rights to your objects, and put the object they ‘sneak’ the script in on the ground for them to work on.
OR
if you bought anything from them earlier that they put the script in already, in which case you’re not a nOOb, but just stupid.
Actually, in both above described ways you’re stupid.
There are millions of ways imaginable on how they can track you, but not via something you have in your inventory or by ‘sneaking’ in a sctipt in one of your worn objects.
nigrasonmylawnBURNTHEM
Jun 12th, 2007
Who remembers the old days, when there was this cornfield that you got sent to if you did something naughty, but not bad enough to be banned for? It had a tractor there even to drive around on, if I correctly remember the stories I been told.
I propose reinstating this wonderful way of telling griefers to “go stand in the corner” for a bit, but with a slight change, specially for those nice wannabe black folk of the PN:
Make it a cottonfield.
John Endwahl
Jun 12th, 2007
If the JLU can be condemned for one thing, it’s being corny. But the allegations of abuse listed here don’t match the experience of my self or those in my land group.
The JLU’s only real power, apart from good commo, is use of the AR system and BanLink. BanLink has its problems, but it does have a dispute system, which in our expereince, without going into details, works.
As to the “secret spy device” that gets “infiltrated into your inventory” they’re probably talking about the call button HUD that JLU issues to friends of the group. So they know who their trusted informants are, but not where they are until they use the HUD. And the only people who get and use it are trusted sources of the JLU.
Any involuntary spy device can be easily detected and defeated simply by scanning and removing the item. you can buy such stuff easily and they’re incoporated into a lot of combat script products like Force Prophecies, Omicron and the Black Widow.