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51 Responses to “17 Sims Crashed in Swastika Pattern. Rosedale Sim Among Them”

1. 

   DICK BURNS
   

   Aug 12th, 2007
   

   TO CINDY VALENTINO

   my family is of irish decent and many of my ancestors were murdered by the mafia. i find your organization disgusting and just as bad as this new attack. you are no different than the griefers.

   also (cocks?)

   also swastigets are where it all began for kips…
2. 

   So What
   

   Aug 12th, 2007
   

   So one griefer group (this asinine “mafia” ) is upset at another mafia?

   Hey Urinous, don’t you have some philosophy to do or something?

   That day job of yours must be really taxing.
3. 

   Artemis Fate
   

   Aug 12th, 2007
   

   Wow, that was pretty damn coordinated.
4. 

   Anonymous
   

   Aug 12th, 2007
   

   “Cinda Valentino: that makes no difference, 1. you can only fit SO many people in a sim if there is a fight of some sort, and Kuchiki and I took out over 20 people alone the other day, with no help, so they can have 1000 members, makes no difference to us.”

   HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, I almost got a hernia from the lulz

   OH NOES shes gonna RP us all to death!!!!
5. 

   bin
   

   Aug 12th, 2007
   

   First, a symbol alone is not a “racism, the incineration of millions of people, anything as disgusting as that”.

   Unfortunately, Cinda Valentino’s point of view that unpopular speech, if tolerated, will necessitate further tragedies, is simply wrong. Cinda Valentino should be made aware that not only is displaying the Nazi symbol tolerated and allowed in the United State of America, but there even exists a Nazi Party and Nazi-like parties. For example,

   http://www.americannaziparty.com/about/index.php
   http://www.nazi.org/nazi/

   They rally, organize, and promote their message. Yet since each group’s formation to present and quite probably far into there future, there is no substantial threat of anything happening like what happened during the time of the Third Reich in the United States. There isn’t even a threat of precursor mass national racism.
6. 

   Anonymous
   

   Aug 12th, 2007
   

   “So one griefer group (this asinine “mafia” ) is upset at another mafia?”

   Big difference between what PN does compared with dillusional basement dwellers roleplaying Sopranos in secondlife
7. 

   TIllery Woodhen
   

   Aug 12th, 2007
   

   I’m leaning toward agreeing with Cinda, minus the vigilantism.

   I have close friends who do not have extended families because of the Holocaust. Plus, homos like me are also a target of Neo-Nazi groups.

   They do exist in this country because of free speech. However, they don’t have the power they had in WWII Germany because others use their right of free speech to push back against them.

   People need to keep speaking out. Taking down sims is near-terrorism. And doing it in a shape that has become a symbol of hate is in some ways scary. It will take people speaking out, pressuring the Lindens and working to make sure they these groups stay small and fringe. Better to push back now than need to fight real battles later on.
8. 

   Angel
   

   Aug 13th, 2007
   

   And if it were really the foot print of the Buddha?

   Why does everyone assume Nazi-ism when they see a symbol that has existed for centuries before the tragic events of the 1930s and 40s
9. 

   anonymous
   

   Aug 13th, 2007
   

   part of my family is jewish too, doesn’t mean I’m going to be retarded enough to assume every swastika is nazi made. Go to Gibson sim, and see all the non-nazi swastikas that LL tolerates there.

   In this case, its clear that the PN made the swastika pattern of sim crashes to commemorate their Habbo Hotel raids, in which their afro-clad avatars, in addition to blocking access to the pool (Pools Closed!), would form up into swastikas on the German version of Habbo due to the gridded nature of the whole playing surface.

   Its done for the lulz, because they know you will react. Don’t react to symbols and words, and you are no longer controlled by those symbols and words. Be a free thinking individual, don’t let your mind be trapped by symbols, and griefers cannot affect you.

   Prokofy is the biggest lulzcow in SL because everywhere she looks, she sees leninist conspiracies against her drive to make teh space monies. She is trapped in a mind prison, and everybody is pointing and laughing as she thrashes about blindly in a cell of her own making.
10. 

    georgie
    

    Aug 13th, 2007
    

    Let’s nuke them preemptively! Kill them all because we don’t like their thoughts!

    He said a bad word, let’s ban them! They made me cry!
11. 

    Captain Cha
    

    Aug 13th, 2007
    

    Here in the PN we call that a swastiget.
12. 

    SB
    

    Aug 13th, 2007
    

    I personally don’t see how LL could have forseen this, or how I have seen multiple peopel mad at THEM; amd I also dont see how they could prevent this from happening; BUT I do think disciplinary action needs to be taken since this is a clear violation of the ToS

    (taken from ToS)
    4.1 In addition to abiding at all times by the Community Standards, you agree that you shall not:(iv) take any action or upload, post, e-mail or otherwise transmit Content as determined by Linden Lab at its sole discretion that is harmful, threatening, abusive, harassing, causes tort, defamatory, vulgar, obscene, libelous, invasive of another’s privacy, hateful, or racially, ethnically or otherwise objectionable;
13. 

    Anonymous
    

    Aug 13th, 2007
    

    it’s not that the symbol means anything, it’s that they’re pissing people off on purpose.. looking for them? look here http://www.youtube.com/user/MudkipsAcronym
14. 

    unregistered
    

    Aug 13th, 2007
    

    These kind of service disruptions should merit legal action.
15. 

    Hiro Pendragon
    

    Aug 13th, 2007
    

    “Don’t react to symbols and words, and you are no longer controlled by those symbols and words.”

    Symbols aside, people *should* react to 17 sims being crashed.
16. 

    DaveOner
    

    Aug 13th, 2007
    

    Hey, there’s a guy in one of the crashed sims.

    I’m sure Cinda is doing her family proud…having a fake mafia on the internet with an av dressed like Barbwire if it was a porno.

    Stop the internazis! They’re more dangerous than the ones IRL!
17. 

    SunnyMarie
    

    Aug 13th, 2007
    

    “Cinda Valentino should be made aware that not only is displaying the Nazi symbol tolerated and allowed in the United State of America, but there even exists a Nazi Party and Nazi-like parties. For example”

    Doesn’t matter.

    It’s illegal in Germany. You all were fine with ageplay being taken down because of German law… but not Nazi Iconography? Pick and choose much? Could you be more transparent?

    Actually, LL has not tolerated Nazi Iconography since the very early days.

    And neither would Sears. Or McDonalds. You misfits need to realize that SL is not a street corner in Berkeley. SL is private property, so all the blather about free speech is just bunkum.

    Also, there’s a big difference between groups consensually RPing mafia with each other, and crashing sims with iconography which every griefer knows LL forbids. Stop playing stupid. You’re embarrassing yourselves.

    You people are soooooo bad at playing Eddie Haskell.
18. 

    bin
    

    Aug 13th, 2007
    

    SunnyMarie, reread the comment. It speaks specifically to “Cinda Valentino’s point of view that unpopular speech, if tolerated, will necessitate further tragedies”.

    Not about ageplay. Not about private property. Not about free speech. Not about German laws. Not about roleplaying.
19. 

    Artemis Fate
    

    Aug 13th, 2007
    

    “It’s illegal in Germany. You all were fine with ageplay being taken down because of German law… but not Nazi Iconography? Pick and choose much? Could you be more transparent?

    Actually, LL has not tolerated Nazi Iconography since the very early days.”

    I don’t think he was talking about whether it’s legal or not in Second Life. LL has always had a strict No nazi iconography rule they’ve run by. What he was referring to is how Cinda seemed to support the whole “I like free speech, but some people don’t deserve it.” in terms of nazis, which of course is contradictory. To have free speech, you have to accept the bad with the good.

    But anyways, this really isn’t free speech as much as some one carving their thoughts into the corpse of a person they murdered is, the real issue is that so many sims were crashed, not that they were crashed in a swastika pattern.
20. 

    kumi kuhr
    

    Aug 13th, 2007
    

    [snippety]
    Symbols aside, people *should* react to 17 sims being crashed.
    Posted by: Hiro Pendragon | August 13, 2007 at 09:46 AM

    >what Hiro said<
21. 

    DaveOner
    

    Aug 13th, 2007
    

    “…it SHOULD NOT BE TOLERATED FOR ONE SECOND. Once we tolerate it, IT’LL HAPPEN AGAIN.”

    This was the same kinda thing Hitler was saying about the penalties Germany had to pay after WWI.

    When left un-checked, the sheep can become the wolf!
22. 

    Nina A
    

    Aug 13th, 2007
    

    Why give time to sooo obvious assholes? Ignore.
23. 

    General Cronon
    

    Aug 13th, 2007
    

    Not to be rude, but I dout her family died in the holocaust, because she once dated a racist guy that called me the N word. Because i was on her private island. Plus, she is in the mafia so forget her, she isn’t helping anyone. Sounds more like a greif rat then anything
24. 

    Nikola Shirakawa
    

    Aug 13th, 2007
    

    You can tatoo a swastika onto your chest and run around shouting heil fuhrer at the top of your lungs in America due to freedom of speech, that’s true. But you do not have the right to use that imagery on other people’s property. This case here would count as vandalism, i believe, on top of whatever other charges they may have against them. The whole freedom of speech issue is irrelevant, because the action counts as such.
25. 

    bin
    

    Aug 13th, 2007
    

    Artemis Fate, although that’s an excellent point in and of itself, that’s not the point I was making. The entire comment should really be in one paragraph. The only reason it’s cut into two is to allow for posting of the URLs.

    My point was:
    Nazi symbols, Nazi parties, and Nazi messages are tolerated in the United States; Nazis are allowed to preach without government censorship (because of the first amendment) and have for many years. That’s the starting fact. Cinda Valentino, believes that “Once we tolerate it, IT’LL HAPPEN AGAIN”. I argue that it *has* been tolerated in the US for decades, yet it has *not* happened again, with there being no real threat of a US version of the Third Reich happening any time soon, and the reason for it not happening again and no threat of it is that merely tolerating a point of view -however hateful or even loving- as a society does not mean that people will magically be persuaded by it. It takes more than mere advocacy to persuade (such as sensible logic, level of eduction of the audience, strength of counterarguments, zeitgeist, etc), and especially to galvanize others on such a grand scale as envisioned by Cinda Valentino.

    The intent was to limit the argument in scope, though many other persuasive broader arguments, such as that advanced by Artemis Fate and TIllery Woodhen (fighting back with counter speech) can be made.
26. 

    Anonymous
    

    Aug 14th, 2007
    

    Actually it’s quite simple. All you need is a society ruled by fear, even for it’s own people, and a common enemy, imaginary or real.
    Like for example communists, or Muslims.

    Examples are very easy to find, looking at the last few years…
27. 

    Cinda Valentino
    

    Aug 14th, 2007
    

    OK, everyone seems to, even people who cannot spell, ALL have an opinion. I’m sorry but if I can open the map and find crashed sims in the sign the Nazi’s used, the sign that is MOST ASSOCIATED WITH THEM THAN ANY OTHER ORGANIZATION OF PEOPLE EVER, whether it existed Adolph Hitler was BORN or after, it still and will forever SCREAM NAZI. And they know it, OR THEY WOULDN’T HAVE USED IT. Let it be TOLD. In Jan of 04′ I saw someone get messed with, then call in the Lindens, who did nothing to help them. THAT WAS THE DAY Pino Valentino and I started this group. We didn’t want to be “police” so we called it the Valentino Mafia. We don’t grief ANYONE (Nina A)unless they ask for it. Nikola writes quoting me: “Once we tolerate it, IT’LL HAPPEN AGAIN”. She argues that it *has* been tolerated in the US for decades, yet it has *not* happened again. UMM IDIOT, why don’t you look in Darfur? Where millions are being MURDERED???? TODAY. Just because of where they’re from, or what they believe.
    GENOCIDE IS HAPPENING RIGHT NOW YOU FOOLS. And YES it IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN 17 SIMS being crashed! (which went right back up as soon as I started raging over there) VALENTINOS are not a VIGILANTE GROUP. We DO NOT GRIEF ANYONE, UNLESS THEY HAVE DONE IT TO SOMEONE ELSE 1st! I could care less about freedom of speech, I think some people should shut their mouths if they know not of which they speak. Plus this is SL so you can take your US laws and shove em’ up your *$$! None of you matter to me, none of you. You porn losers, who can’t get laid in RL, can associate me with any porn queen they watch all day, lol. You all matter nothing to me whatsoever.
    In closing I would like to post these names:
    Moshe Feldman, Beatrice Feldman, Ezra Feldman, Anna Cohen, Vladimir Cohen, Miri Stanislov, Isaac Klein, Warren Hirsh, Barry Hirsh, Talya Cohen and Avi Moriskovich…… I will never forget you……….YOU mattered.
28. 

    Reality
    

    Aug 14th, 2007
    

    cinda Dearie? The main Second Life server farm is in the United States – United States laws apply far more than any other nation’s laws. No debate on this, no discussion … This is a fact.

    In addition Dearie – ALL Anti-Griefer Groups are Griefers themselves – you can be Abuse Reported just like anyone else.

    As for the symbol these SIMs were crashed in? I do hate to break it to you but while you may be correct as to the intent of the use here you would probably end up pissing off a Wiccan or other practitioner of the Nature based faiths if you were to harass them for wearing this symbol.

    Now then – all of that said: Take your ranting somewhere else, along with your story concerning your life and family history. Anyone that uses such things as an excuse for their ignorance and to fuel their own hate filled agenda (which it is Dearie) gets no sympathy from me whatsoever.
29. 

    Anonymous
    

    Aug 14th, 2007
    

    Complicated issue, while this is probably a once in a long while thing, which Cindy played right into, it still is an annoyance.
    I can live with that.
    it’s when they go overboard and crash a sim so repeatedly no one goes in anymore. That’s not lulz, that’s being an asshole.
30. 

    Artemis Fate
    

    Aug 14th, 2007
    

    “the sign that is MOST ASSOCIATED WITH THEM THAN ANY OTHER ORGANIZATION OF PEOPLE EVER, whether it existed Adolph Hitler was BORN or after, it still and will forever SCREAM NAZI.”

    I think Buddhists, the Hindi, and most of the Eastern hemisphere would disagree with you.

    “Nikola writes quoting me: “Once we tolerate it, IT’LL HAPPEN AGAIN”. She argues that it *has* been tolerated in the US for decades, yet it has *not* happened again. UMM IDIOT, why don’t you look in Darfur? Where millions are being MURDERED???? TODAY. Just because of where they’re from, or what they believe.”

    It hasn’t happened, not in the US anyways. Whether we tolerate a swastika or not has absolutely nothing to do with African politics. If we had banned it and tried to sweep all that history under the rug, there’d still be genocide in Darfur, because we’re not Darfur, and we don’t control Darfur.

    “VALENTINOS are not a VIGILANTE GROUP. We DO NOT GRIEF ANYONE, UNLESS THEY HAVE DONE IT TO SOMEONE ELSE 1st!”

    Uh, That’s actually the exact definition of Vigilantism. Someone who takes the law into their own hands.

    “A vigilante is a person or persons who ignore due process of law after a crime has been committed, instead enacting their own form of justice when they deem the response of the authorities to be insufficient”

    So yeah, the Valentinos are the EXACT description of a vigilante group by your own words: “In Jan of 04′ I saw someone get messed with, then call in the Lindens, who did nothing to help them. THAT WAS THE DAY Pino Valentino and I started this group.”
31. 

    Cinda Valentino
    

    Aug 14th, 2007
    

    Thanks Dearies, lol “Cindy” is glad you made her point for her…lol

    Wouldn’t there have to be “due process” ahead of the involved parties TO IGNORE, in order to be “taking matters into our own hands”???? HAHAHAHAHA
    The point was NOTHING WAS GOING TO BE DONE, YOU FOOL.
    There WAS nothing TO IGNORE.

    LOL and Arty “It hasn’t happened, not in the US anyways.” ROTF!
    IT DIDN’T HAPPEN IN THE US THE FIRST TIME YOU IMBISIL!

    You are all so ignorant it’s pathetic, I love SL

    Thanks though for caring SO MUCH to keep the posts coming!!!!! I feel so appreciated )) Byeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee ))))))
32. 

    DaveOner
    

    Aug 14th, 2007
    

    When reading Cinda’s posts I picture her standing behind a podium in beige uniform banging on the podium when she says the portions typed in all caps…followed by “Sieg Valentino!” and a crowd responds the same.

    You’re becoming a tiny, impotent version of the very thing you are trying to fight. You just have a different group of people to blame for your peoples’ troubles.

    Stop now before it gets worse!
33. 

    DICK BURNS
    

    Aug 14th, 2007
    

    HEY CINDY. yeah thats right… i said CINDY.

    would you be a doll and fix me a sandwich and a beer? thanks toots
34. 

    Reality
    

    Aug 14th, 2007
    

    Dearie – you just showed your own stupidity.

    No response by the powers that be is still a response. That response being: “There is nothing here for us to take action on.”

    As for the rest of your response Cinda Dearie: You are woefully ignorant of several facts.

    1. Second Life, Owned by Linden Lab, is subject to United States law, not International Law.
    2. Second Life is not Real Life.
    3. At this point, no one gives a fuck where it has happened, nor where it started. it is part of history and belongs in the past.
    4. Unless you plan on going to the countries where such things actually do happen and attempt to correct them (thus placing your own life on the line) … No one gives a fuck about your little rant.
    5. The use of internet acronyms as well as the use of caps and smilies really does not help you at all. I suggest you go learn the basic HTML tags for Bold, Underline and Italics.
    6. You, Dearie, are just as bad as those you are railing against.
    7. Your group is a Vigilante group – If the Lindens take no action one of two tings has occurred: A.( They found nothing to take action against. B.) They simply tossed out your report due to frivolous Abuse Reporting. at this point, that is your cue to go on with your life.

    Don’t bother – you’re not capable of intelligent thought.
35. 

    Artemis Fate
    

    Aug 14th, 2007
    

    “Wouldn’t there have to be “due process” ahead of the involved parties TO IGNORE, in order to be “taking matters into our own hands”???? HAHAHAHAHA
    The point was NOTHING WAS GOING TO BE DONE, YOU FOOL.
    There WAS nothing TO IGNORE.”

    There is a due process, whether or not it’s being fulfilled to your liking is another story.

    “LOL and Arty “It hasn’t happened, not in the US anyways.” ROTF!
    IT DIDN’T HAPPEN IN THE US THE FIRST TIME YOU IMBISIL!”

    Yeah, and point out where exactly I said it had? Also, it’s spelled “Imbecile”, retard.

    “You are all so ignorant it’s pathetic, I love SL

    Thanks though for caring SO MUCH to keep the posts coming!!!!! I feel so appreciated )) Byeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee ))))))”

    Thanks for just admitting you’re wrong and leaving it at that.
36. 

    Artemis Fate
    

    Aug 14th, 2007
    

    I guess this is what the Valentino Mafia qualifies as Vigilante justice, got this IM from Cinda’s boyfriend just now.

    [19:43] Kuchiki Ichigo: (Saved Tue Aug 14 20:18:29 2007) “HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, I almost got a hernia from the lulz OH NOES shes gonna RP us all to death!!!!”
    [19:43] Kuchiki Ichigo: (Saved Tue Aug 14 20:18:34 2007) RP
    [19:43] Kuchiki Ichigo: (Saved Tue Aug 14 20:19:48 2007) listen, do ya self a favor, dont act all hard online, cause yous a straight up shook nigga in RL
    [19:43] Kuchiki Ichigo: (Saved Tue Aug 14 20:20:06 2007) fuckin faggot assclown
    [19:43] Kuchiki Ichigo: (Saved Tue Aug 14 20:20:51 2007) low-life, motherfuckin’ degenerate prick

    Note that I didn’t even write that comment. *claps* yeah, I can see how you stand up for justice in Second Life where the Lindens fail.
37. 

    bin
    

    Aug 14th, 2007
    

    Cinda Valentino, as far as I’m aware, Nazis had nothing to do with Darfur. I also do not believe that practice of Nazism in the US, where Nazism is tolerated, caused genocide in Darfur. So the question remains: where is the genocide (or even precursor mass national racism) caused by the tolerated Nazism in the US that would make your claim that “it SHOULD NOT BE TOLERATED FOR ONE SECOND. Once we tolerate it, IT’LL HAPPEN AGAIN”? Because the fact remains that it is tolerated in the US, so if you are correct, then it therefore should have caused, should be about to cause, or at the very least increased the likelihood of causing those things. Has it? Is it more mainstream to even be a racist in the US today than it was 50 years ago, for at least as long as it’s been tolerated? The correct answer is no, and in fact the opposite (at least in part because other views have been more persuasive in society).

    Just a few side points:
    1. I empathize with at least some sort of emotional response by any abuse reporter due to Linden Lab inaction on a report. For example, if someone has a harassment report ignored, it doesn’t mean that person was not really harassed; simply because some random Linden Lab employee -who is not some sort of unquestionably exalted arbiter of truth and justice- doesn’t think harassment occurred. Personal biases and even negligence or incompetence can occur at that end as well. So with that, Reality’s #7 is wrong, at least in part.

    2. I disagree with Reality’s #4 in totality.

    3. If I were forced to live under a rule of not tolerating things due to Cinda Valentino’s apparent ‘potential harm by bad history’ sort of theory, my first suggested targets would be most religions. Then Nazism of the Third Reich after that.
38. 

    Macy Costello
    

    Aug 15th, 2007
    

    I can understand Cinda’s frustration. I also understand some of the comments from others.

    “Don’t react to symbols and words, and you are no longer controlled by those symbols and words.” (well said)

    Instead of condemning people, let’s try to understand them. Let’s try to figure out why they do what they do. That’s a lot more profitable and intriguing than criticism: and it breeds sympathy, tolerance and kindness. To know all is to forgive all.

    Any fool can criticize, condemn and complain-and most fools do. But it takes character and self-control to be understanding and forgiving. A great man shows his greatness by the way he treats the little men.
39. 

    Spin Martin
    

    Aug 15th, 2007
    

    …IS IT UPON US?
40. 

    Levi Anansi
    

    Aug 16th, 2007
    

    The last comment from Spin is quite the follow up to this one…as is Artemis’ a few before. I logged on a few weeks ago to find myself orbited on spawn for about 10 minutes. The only thing showing up in chat being Cinda Valentino caps locked “HAHAHAHA” as I stretched out to 32000 meters. Mind you I live in Jessie, so I guess this sort of thing is to be expected from time to time. I quietly spawn to Clyde, reach across the border and ban Cinda from the parcel, and then add her to the local turret. I knew a few from the Valentino family, who lived in Jessie for a period, from a bit ago, so I wasn’t so surprised to find her out there being snarky, who cares right, it’s Jessie. Dealing is simple, ban, turret, script if they come near, rince, repeat.

    What I didn’t expect was what I found when I looked her up to copy/paste her name into the turret. She’s a member of wwii, which I am as well. I assume both of our memberships are courtesy appointments. I provide them land to build, and Cinda most likely got hers as a long standing citizen of Jessie. She’s a group member, so what the hell, I removed the ban and turret. Haven’t seen her since. All is well on the grid.

    The point I find really ironic here, it that most of the older members of wwiiolers have Nazi uniforms, sieg heil gestures, some even have work camp uniforms. This is, of course, all symbolic of the game from which the group culls (World War II Online, or Battleground Europe). I think she must recognize this since she still hails as a member of wwii. Their activities must not bother her…So why does some tween with a mission of getting noticed? My guess is to bring a little attention back to her “family” who honestly was never really more than a nuisance to begin with from my experience.

    As far as her boyfriend spouting “faggot,” “assclown,” and “nigga.” Perhaps they need to have a similar talk about her heritage. They coincide, and being made out to be a hypocrite is the worst thing that can happen when you are trying to make an ethical stand for anything.
41. 

    Artemis Fate
    

    Aug 17th, 2007
    

    “The point I find really ironic here, it that most of the older members of wwiiolers have Nazi uniforms, sieg heil gestures, some even have work camp uniforms. This is, of course, all symbolic of the game from which the group culls (World War II Online, or Battleground Europe). I think she must recognize this since she still hails as a member of wwii. Their activities must not bother her…So why does some tween with a mission of getting noticed? My guess is to bring a little attention back to her “family” who honestly was never really more than a nuisance to begin with from my experience.

    As far as her boyfriend spouting “faggot,” “assclown,” and “nigga.” Perhaps they need to have a similar talk about her heritage. They coincide, and being made out to be a hypocrite is the worst thing that can happen when you are trying to make an ethical stand for anything. ”

    Both very excellent points. I remember WWIIOL, infact it was one of their members that built the controversial Concentration Camp in SL that the Lindens took down.
42. 

    Thresh Deharo
    

    Aug 27th, 2007
    

    i think everyone should just Shut up
    from what i read i can see everyone hates everyone = Autisics,Jewish,Afro American and none afro Americans,Asians,Germans

    as long you dont go stab a autisic 5 times just cuz hes autisic irl like those two boys in DC who cares
    what i see here is ever one getting on everyone nerves trying to bring this to real life like that DC case so why dont everyone just shush and hate even one =
43. 

    ........
    

    Aug 29th, 2007
    

    kid rock did it
44. 

    Fuzzlemuzzle
    

    Oct 15th, 2007
    

    This truely is pathetic..everyone of you Secondlife retards fail at life and you really have nothing better to do than wage online penis wars and then proceed to bitch like little cunt bastards when the nazi gestapo Linden gang bans you for your retardism. Come to think of it..screw everyone of you Linden bastards to..everyone of you make me sick!!
45. 

    Spotz Spork
    

    Dec 22nd, 2007
    

    You know what? My Uncle died in a Japanese prison camp during WWII after surviving the Bataan Death March, yet I don’t get upset every time I see a Rising Sun or a meatball flag. Grow a pair and stop using a crutch.

    Griefers suck, my sim goes down daily. This is no different than any other bout of sim crashing though, there’s just more coordination. Who cares?
46. 

    Lulzvan
    

    Dec 26th, 2007
    

    Spotz Spork thinks he is an animal.

    Disregard everything he ever has said, ever will say, and ever thinks.

    Spotz Spork runs a group called “Furzi” If i am not mistaken. Furzi are basically furry nazis, as the name suggests, so I doubt anyone SANE will listen to a NAZI WHO THINKS HE IS AN ANIMAL.
47. 

    BrikcTamland
    

    Dec 26th, 2007
    

    You know that by complaining about something like this it just makes us want to do it again right? This applies to Cinda Valentino and Spotz Spork as well. Also Spotz Spork, nice pictures of the Holocaust you have on on your walls in your complex in northern Triphosa, I am sure Cinda Valentino would love to have a look at them, and proceed to go into a fit of rage that lasts for days.
48. 

    Harlequin
    

    Dec 27th, 2007
    

    cinda i am irish and lost a lot of relatives to the mafia in the states and you trying to be one when you are probably some fat dude at home on your comp is disgusting

    also cocks

    OUR SWASTIGET WILL APPEAR IN NESSUS ONE DAY!
49. 

    TheEndIsNear
    

    Mar 4th, 2008
    

    Cindy,
    Do us all a favor, dig a hole for yourself, and die in it, ok? your not going to stop the PN, or any other griefer group, Because…We are never on SL, and when we are, its to draw internet Nazi signs on grids for LULZ. How are you going to stop someone virtually, you must feel really powerful orbiting someone right? Wow hate to see what your like in real(Hitler).

    BTW: i will crash the Nazi symbol again out of sims, and be sure its one of the sims you hang around.And send you a snapshot of me dressed as Hitler, K

    Also Cocks?!?!?!?!
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    RandomPerson182
    

    Mar 15th, 2008
    

    I’m one of the many people who don’t play second life, and happened on this article by accident. Judging from the date of the post and succeeding comments, I also assume that this article is relatively dead. However, I still find the need to post this:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kojxvWg2C1w

    And before anyone starts calling me an insensitive prick, let me ask you something: Do half of you even know what Unit 731 was? While the holocaust was public knowledge, the atrocities of 731 were largely secret. Only during the last decade has information of 731 been brought public, and I doubt many textbooks detail it to the same extent as they do with concentration camps.

    While I do agree that people who use the swastika to symbolize the views of racism should be shot, I also believe that people who view the swastika exclusively as a nazi symbol should consider educating themselves.

    I guess the general point I’m trying to make is the reaction that was made to the swastika.

    This statement:

    “..I would find it very hard to believe, being that it would take quite a bit of work to down all those sims, for the persons involved to not know its meaning…
    “…when it comes to racism, the incineration of millions of people, anything as disgusting as that…”

    speaks volumes to me, which is why I posted this comment. If we’re going to redefine the swastika as a symbol for Nazi Germany, we might as well redefine the Japanese Medical Society as a symbol for human experimentation.

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