Corsi Mousehold: JLU Are Power Hungry Crazed Nutjobs

by Alphaville Herald on 09/03/10 at 12:38 pm

[Corsi Mousehold has been awarded  the “commie” or comment-of-the-week award for her explanation of why the Justice League Unlimited superheros are not welcome in Furnation. The award winning comment is reproduced below. ]

Here’s a bit of a story. IN years past the JLU were a welcomed member of the FurNation community. They didn’t bother anyone and no one really bothered them. That was until we were under a griefer attack and the JLU came over to ‘assist’ and the first thing they did was report ME to the lab for griefing. They approached me and yelled at me for causing the issue. I asked them why they reported me of all people. By this time I had already deleted all the offensive material. They told me that I was the one putting it all out and they had seen me doing it. Basically they had watched me selecting objects to return them. They were extremely rude to me at the time and informed me that they would have reports go up on me. I contacted Kalel and he too said I was being reported and then for harassment as well. I was not rude to these people at all. It was several days later that I was contacted by Kalel informing me that the ‘charges’ had been dropped because they did not realize I was the sim owner. My response of course was to point to the info hub I had in the center of the sandbox that had my name clearly displayed as the sim owner and if his comrades had taken a moment to look they would have seen I was in the admin team.

He called me ungrateful and abuse reported me again. I was informed of this by him as well as he had several of his friends make the same report. All reports were dismissed by the GOV team as illegitimate. Soon I had JLU members ‘patrolling’ the sandboxes and abuse reporting anyone that they felt was disobeying my rules. They started to get several members of my community banned. I was forced to add a new sim rule that the JLU were not allowed in the sim for any reason. When they had seen this, I was reported again for griefing. Again the report was dismissed.

In the end I was approached months later by Green Lantern Corps asking if it was okay for them to be there. They apologized for the treatment the JLU had given me and asked if they would be allowed to just come and build.

Green Lantern Corps are allowed to visit and act if they wish. But they are not allowed to be in tag or act as a part of the Corps while visiting. If they are the subject of a griefing they are to come to me and I would take care of it. They can then file all the reports they like.

In the end the JLU are a bunch of power hungry crazed nutjobs that think being an SL Police force gives them the right to get away with whatever they want. The GLC on the other hand have always been very respectful to me and my residents.

381 Responses to “Corsi Mousehold: JLU Are Power Hungry Crazed Nutjobs”

  1. Kiddoh

    May 3rd, 2010

    @You’re all d*cks: Nice self-censorship, are you old enough to be on the internet?

    “LL has stated in the past, that land owners are fully responsible for the happenings on their land. So yeah, LL took the WU land and banned their admins. Cause as they said, they were responsible for whatever supposedly did or did not happen. stop your bawwwwing, you’re starting to look like a couple of butthurt furfags FFS.”

    Indeed we are responsible for what happens on our land. We are not responsible for things that happen outside it, and we’re 100% sure the ban-hammer was for something that happened outside of WU’s knowledge and territory.

  2. IntLibber Brautigan

    May 3rd, 2010

    @You’re all dicks,

    Well whats so amusing about LL’s claim they hold individuals responsible for what happens on their land is, that theres a number of emails from Lindens to sim owners referring to their property ownership as “sovereign”. Any fool cracking open a dictionary knows that when someone has sovereign power over their land, that means THEY ARE NOT ACCOUNTABLE TO ANY OTHER AUTHORITY.

    So, if we really are sovereign in our sims, then the governance team, nor any other Linden, should have any authority to enforce any TOS in an estate sim. Their only jurisdiction should be on the mainland, and they should give sim owners the ability to fully control access to their sims, giving sim owners the ability to IP and hash ban individuals, a capability that sim owners have had elsewhere going back to retarded worlds like Everquest.

    Now, there are WU members who haven’t been anywhere else in SL other than WU’s sims and their own land. Others, like Scout Detritus, hasn’t even logged into SL in months, being stationed in Afghanistan with the US Army, yet he got a permban for nothing other than having donated a sim to WU at one time, and having been an estate manager at one point when he was online.

    This is the specious sort of “guilt” standard that LL held WU’s members to, in complete contravention of every accepted standard of jurisprudence in the western world. Its as dumb as holding Cory Linden responsible for the stupid shit that M and T have done.

    Thats ok though, because, by my analysis of the class action suit against LL, if LL at any time presented sim ownership as being the sovereign property of the sim owner, then LL can also be held responsible for any damages a sim owner has ever incurred due to governance team violations of sim sovereignty by banning a sim resident/tenant for acts performed in that private sim. Because LL can’t have governance over private sims if they refer to them as the sim owners being sovereign.

  3. You're all d*cks

    May 4th, 2010

    TOS, point 6 excerpt:
    “You agree that Linden Lab has the right to manage, regulate, control, modify and/or eliminate such Virtual Land as it sees fit and that Linden Lab shall have no liability to you based on its exercise of such right. ”

    There ya go. Right to eliminate, no liability to you. In the TOS. Everyone agreed to it, and may not be really fair, but you dont HAVE to agree with the TOS any more then you HAVE to play Second Life.

    oh little other bit for you Intlibber:

    “You acknowledge that Virtual Land is a limited license right and is not a real property right or actual real estate”

    They can send as many emails as they want, and individual Lindens may tell you whatever you want, that you’re the only lord and master of your sims, but it wont make a difference to the TOS, to which you AGREED when you signed up, and a couple of more times after that, be it legal or fair or not.

    and of COURSE they’re going to care about what you do with the land that you’re admin of, if they feel it’s trouble for LL.

    Little example.

    Little Pedo Billy buys a sim. Little Pedo Billy builds a sim wide playground for all the child avvies to come and play, filled with poseballs for all sorts of little ‘games’.

    Now, according to you, LL shouldnt have the right, or shouldnt care, what happens there. But do you really, honestly believe LL would even CONCIDER telling Little Pedo Billy that they wont meddle in his little rape the kids playground, that it’s a souvereign sim and under ONLY Billy’s control for no-one else to decide over? Officially, not in some email that Pedo Linden may have decided to send them?

    No, didnt think you’d think that either.

    Now im not comparing you guys to ageplayers and pedophiles, before I get pinned on that… Even tho 4chan’s liking to Pedobear almost as a mascot, is a bit iffy, but I wont go into that.
    What I’m saying is, that it doesnt matter what individual Lindens or emails told you, the TOS is what counts.

    That one you agreed to.
    Multiple times, most recently again when they restricted the viewers.
    The one that you can easily opt out of, if you think there’s something wrong with.

    I totally agree with you, the document seems to be constructed to be able to screw residents over, and is FAR from fair to anyone BUT LL.
    But if I was a company like theirs, hell yeah I’d make sure I can decide what happens on MY service that is carrying MY name, and that I dont have to explain to anyone why I decided they werent welcome anymore in my game.

    I signed the TOS. Reluctantly, yes. I didnt like specifically the clauses about property rights, but hey, I want to play SL, so I’ll just not take any risks, and not invest too much time and money in SL:
    cause I realize fully, that at any moment I might lose it all. Maybe because someone who doesnt like me will mass AR me, maybe because LL decides tomorrow to terminate the whole of SL and be done with it, maybe because I get caught doing somethign LL deosnt approve of.

    But whatever the reason may be, I sure as hell wont lower myself to the standards of the average furfag and bawww about it on public forums.

    Isnt bawwwwwing reason number one for the furfag hating of 4chan and woodbury BTW? Including the woodburry furry hating furries who cant stand furries because they whine and moan so much?

  4. You're all d*cks

    May 4th, 2010

    ” are you old enough to be on the internet?”

    Are you?

  5. Kiddoh

    May 4th, 2010

    Of course. I don’t see the word ‘dicks’ to be worth censoring especially on a website that discusses mature topics.

  6. Selkit Diller

    May 4th, 2010

    You know, I think the last time I posted here was… oh, almost a month ago? Just having a chuckle at your expense about how random “OMFG FURFAGS AND THEIR DRAMA” quips fly about, while the furfag in question (ohai!) has not posted in a month here.

    Irony: The end result of some self-censored idiot thrashing a finger about at a party which left to go do something productive a month ago. Going back to building now, seeya when you figure out something useful to do with your time, anon dick censoring dude.

  7. You're all d*cks

    May 5th, 2010

    Well, glad you feel comfortable using that word in full. Kudo’s.

    But ya know, the ‘mature’ thing would be to adress my actual points, not the fact that I use a bit of self censorship in my chosen name, on a site which is very vague in what word filters it uses to allow or deny posts.

    But, hey, often used tactic I guess in internet discussions, shoulda seen that coming,

    And Im still laughing my ass off at the bawwwwwwwwwww on this and other blogs and forums from all you WUfags.

    WUsecution, anyone?

  8. You're all d*cks

    May 5th, 2010

    “Irony: The end result of some self-censored idiot thrashing a finger about at a party which left to go do something productive a month ago. Going back to building now, seeya when you figure out something useful to do with your time, anon dick censoring dude.”

    if this is aimed at me:

    Who the F are you, and what made you think I at any point meant you specifically in any of my posts?

    Or are you the furfag head PR or something?

  9. MMMmmm Tacos

    May 5th, 2010

    Quite right Kiddoh, after all, Dicks is the name of a highly popular chain of drive-in burger joints in the Seattle area (the furry’s love the “Dicks Special”).

  10. Bag of Dicks

    May 5th, 2010

    lolz. Though not here often, that person is from FN. And a moderator there too from the sound of it. You really need to start reading not just the articles but the comments as well. And I believe someone has full right to comment on something they see even if it doesn’t directly involve them(although, this topic involves Selkit, even if your comments don’t).

    But, who cares really? We’re all dicks, after all.

  11. Kiddoh

    May 5th, 2010

    @You’re All D*cks: The funny thing is, I’m a Woodburied and one of the only ones that have posted any responses on the herald after the banning and absolutely none of the things I’ve said have been about LL dropping the ban hammer on WU. ;D

    In all honesty I don’t give a fuck, I think I’d much rather wait and see what happens. Thus, everything you’ve said to this point has been debunked. The End.

  12. Noxious Gas

    May 5th, 2010

    Hi-larious – a Woodburied talking about debunking anything, when WU was the biggest supplier of bunk on the intertubes (and probably still is). LOL

  13. Kiddoh

    May 5th, 2010

    I know right? :O

    You must be pretty pathetic to get debunked by a Woodburied. :L

  14. Noxious Gas

    May 5th, 2010

    That would imply that a Woodburied would be able to do that, though. Kind of a pointless argument there.

    So have you worked out why you all got banned yet? LOL

  15. Kiddoh

    May 5th, 2010

    Ou~ but I did debunk you. I took your delusions and tossed them right out the window. Sorry you can’t accept it, but you failed. Maybe you can learn from this experience on how to troll better in the future.

    Also; what makes you think you’re entitled to any information regarding WU? You’ll know what we tell you to know. ;D

  16. Noxious Gas

    May 6th, 2010

    You mean you’ll tell me whatever you pull out of your ass, since your Linden pal got fired you have no way to get any more sekrit infoz.

  17. you're all d*cks

    May 6th, 2010

    @ Bag of Dicks

    I read in Selkit’s comment that he had seen a reference to him or towards him in any of my comments. I cleared that up, for the rest of the matter, I dont care.

    @ Kiddoh – eyes up here, dude. Noxious Gas is not me, I think youve got some things confused here.

    ” The funny thing is, I’m a Woodburied and one of the only ones that have posted any responses on the herald after the banning and absolutely none of the things I’ve said have been about LL dropping the ban hammer on WU. ;D

    In all honesty I don’t give a fuck, I think I’d much rather wait and see what happens. Thus, everything you’ve said to this point has been debunked. The End.”

    I wasnt refering to you or this particular blog only, I was refering to other posts by other WUfags on other forums and blogs as well.

    And there has been *MUCH* bawwwwwing.

    even some comparison with the banning of religions in RL, lol.

    WUsecution much?

    so, say the End as much as you want, the only thing it applies to is the WU having sims on SL. And nothing of value was lost.

    and the infomation regarding WU… that’s fine, you dont have to tell us anything, but enough has been told either directly or indirectly by your fellow WU members, trying their hardest to defend and at the same time deny ever having done any griefing.

    I always wondered who’d be the next big lulzcow group of SL, and we have a winner!

  18. you're all d*cks

    May 6th, 2010

    “Sorry you can’t accept it, but you failed. Maybe you can learn from this experience on how to troll better in the future.”

    Is worthy of it’s own mention. The only thing I can say about it…


  19. Bag of Dicks

    May 6th, 2010

    Wow….you only care about your own argument. How funny. Oh well. More important things to do than listen to your dribble babble.

  20. you're all d*cks

    May 6th, 2010

    I dont know wtf youre talking about, im just here to lol at WU fags. So go do your important things

  21. Danziel Lane

    May 6th, 2010

    I like how the discussion develops with all these qualified people who use dicks in their names.

    Thank you so much for teaching a non native English speaker about how to communicate in English.

  22. Wyrdwolf Legion

    May 6th, 2010

    Looks to me that anonymous JLU trolls are trying to divert attention on this thread away from themselves and onto Woodbury University incident, which the JLU seem to regard as a major coup.

    These are the people that would have you believe they are upstanding members of the Secondlife community.

    I personally have no connection with Woodbury whatsoever, and have no feelings either way on what has happened there. But the kind of gloating going on here by the JLU just shows them up to be members, and generally pretty flaccid at that.

    Lets do try to keep on topic JLU trolls please?
    As a reminder, the subject is in the title, and all you guy(s) have done to this point is reinforce the message it carries.

  23. Tux Winkler

    May 6th, 2010

    William James once said:
    “Why should we think upon things that are lovely? Because thinking determines life. It is a common habit to blame life upon the environment. Environment modifies life but does not govern life. The soul is stronger than its surroundings.”

    WU’s creative ability produced some lovely works of digital modern art. But they are blames for the bad (that is still going on btw) on them.

    You think you are safe now? Your creations are safe? Everything that was happening is still happening, its just there is no WU to blame.

    But, the JLU still stalks. Though now I get 0day avatars teleporting a random sim and asking me how to crash sims, or crash clients, or copybot things. JLU now wear their spandex under their freebie clothes. And they mass AR still. Lies too. I recieved a one hour ‘cooling off’ ban for being abusive on voice, without every plugging in a mic. 4 people AR’d me.

    And BTW not all the Lindens are JLU lovers. Their are still a couple of sensible ones. It is just a shame they couldn’t help WU (I guess it would be their jobs if they did).

  24. We

    May 6th, 2010

    @Wyrdwolf Legion

    “you’re all d*cks” is just some furry named Darkfoxx Bunnyip, I don’t think she has anything to do with the JLU, just doesn’t like Woodbury.

  25. Bag of Dicks

    May 6th, 2010


    The fact that someone just came in here to bawwww about the WU whilst putting off the bawwwww on WU is just so entertaining.

    @Tux: Glen Linden left LL a while back, supposedly for supporting WU. I wouldn’t blame those who wanna keep their jobs atm.

  26. you're all d*cks

    May 6th, 2010

    “The fact that someone just came in here to bawwww about the WU whilst putting off the bawwwww on WU is just so entertaining.”

    Even more entertaining are those that confuse LOL with bawwwww.

    Carry on :3

  27. MMMmmm Tacos

    May 6th, 2010

    Darkfoxx Bunnyip is most certainly tied in with JLU, he/she/it is a Gay Yiffy Club staff stripper with over 100 posts on their private web forum. (this is from a 30 second google). According to Wikifur, he used to be manager of the GYC with his brother Kiroja Fluffy. Now, Kiroja’s brother is also known as Angel Fluffy, though that may be a different “brother”. Either way, Darkfoxx is not just some average butthurt furry. He is most definitely part of Angels Proactive Security gestapo if he isn’t a JLU member.

  28. Kiddoh

    May 6th, 2010

    Eeew~ I gave them too much credit. How gross.

  29. Gaara Sandalwood

    May 6th, 2010

    Haha. Nice one. I’ve read about Angel Fluffy. Aparrantly a big JLU ally.

  30. Judge Joker

    May 12th, 2010


    So what’s this shit? you join the portuguese version of the Green Lanterns, recruited by GLE?

    So this is your new “incompatability between this domain and your new employment,”.

    If your now playing Superhero with GLE and Kalel I’m totally amazed you would want to buy into that bullshit, but keep the JLU wiki up.

  31. We

    May 12th, 2010

    @Judge Joker

    Weird. Incidentally still works, but I guess that has an expiration date if he will be no longer hosting it.

    The wiki is still on and being seeded however, so if you don’t have a local copy I’d recommend getting one.

  32. Tux Winkler

    May 12th, 2010

    My employment is a RL position and nothing to do with false superhero role play. The AR rubbish is just accepting every group invite, I don’t bother with it.

    And the wiki will stay, as I said, it has been paid for and uploaded by someone else. =)

    I understand there is some dev work going on regarding the jlu etc.

  33. Darkfoxx

    May 12th, 2010

    Oh yes you’re spot on.
    Im Angel Fluffy and also an alt of Kalel and Greenlantern.


    most definately.

  34. Ben

    Jun 7th, 2010

    Pfft, the JLU aren’t power hungry, they’re just fucking retarded. I had my run ins with them when I ran Montego Bay. One showed up and decided because I told her to exit the sim because i was editing the terrain that she should call her buddies and mass AR me.
    Not one of them even so much as batted an eye to see who owned and ran the place or what I’d actually said, just that one of their members was upset and warranted a mass AR.

    They’re just a bunch of fucked over retarded noobs with nothing better to do

  35. Axel Oakleaf

    Nov 22nd, 2010

    Yes they are power hungry nutjobs, i’ve been libeled by them. And get this,they’re using a police group in Second Life who has security orbs to ban people who they don’t like.

  36. Anon

    Nov 22nd, 2010

    I hear it was because you got kicked out of Gridwatch for claiming to be one of them.

    So which is it? Sour grapes much?

  37. Axel Oakleaf

    Nov 22nd, 2010

    I never did claim to be one of them,where did you hear that from?

  38. Axel Oakleaf

    Nov 22nd, 2010

    Whoever spread that rumor i’m going to find out who and they’re going to be sorry for ruining my life.

  39. Rebecca

    Nov 22nd, 2010

    What are you going to do? Stamp your foot and then beat your fists ineffectually against their e-chests shouting “I hate you hate you hate you” whilst sobbing?

    It’s just millions of dots of light on your screen, flashing really really fast.

    Is it really worth making iThreats about?

  40. Axel Oakleaf

    Nov 22nd, 2010

    No,it’s just i’m very upset about it

  41. Judge Joker

    Nov 22nd, 2010


    “iThreats” is probably all ready trademarked by Apple Inc’s legal team, we have to use the generic term e-threats.

    @Axel Oakleaf

    I don’t think you any Axel to grind, of course I didn’t read above Ben’s comment as this is really done with.

    And if you some how believe it isn’t try r-threats “real life legal threats” I don’t think you have the balls for it though, even pixeleen mistral chickened out of going down that path.

  42. Judge Joker

    Nov 22nd, 2010

    Of course I meant to have “Have any Axel to grind” :P

  43. Judge Joker

    Nov 22nd, 2010

    WTF? no seriously I post something and it changes? wtf? wtf?

  44. Axel Oakleaf

    Nov 22nd, 2010

    @ Judge Joker:

    Is this Crysix from Furaffinity?

  45. Rebecca

    Nov 22nd, 2010

    @Judge Joker

    ““iThreats” is probably all ready trademarked by Apple Inc’s legal team, we have to use the generic term e-threats.”

    They can iKissMyAss :P

  46. Axel Oakleaf

    Nov 24th, 2010

    But isn’t that violating my due process rights of being “innocent until proven guilty” and the right to a speedy trial and confrontation of witnesses” Plus protection against cruel and unusual punishments”?

    n all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the State and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the Assistance of Counsel for his defence.

    Amendment 8 – Cruel and Unusual Punishment. Ratified 12/15/1791.

    Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted.

  47. Selkit Diller

    Nov 24th, 2010

    I dart off Secondlife as a whole for several months, and forgot I had this post marked for updates, then these gems start pouring into my inbox. This got off on a weird tangent in a post-necro’ing hurry…

  48. Axel Oakleaf

    Nov 26th, 2010

    Of course i posted to two livejournal communities to have people help vouch for me,i think it was either /b/ or some furry who hates me a lot.

    Because on a furry message board one furry talked to other furries about wanting to ruin my life in Second life.

    And i think that is what is happening.

  49. Axel Oakleaf

    Nov 26th, 2010

    Of course later on today,my account will be downgraded to basic,so i’ll probably cancel this account later on and start all over.

  50. Selkit Diller

    Nov 27th, 2010

    I get this funny feeling you take SL far, far too seriously, Axel.

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